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FOREST AND STREAM. 



[NoV. 2, 1805. 



Postponement of U. S. Trials. 



Tbenton, Term., Oct. 26.— Editor Forest and Stream: 

 Owing to the universal reports, that come from the hand- 

 lers who are fitting dogs to run in the United States 

 Field Trials at Newton, N. C, commencing Nov. 7, that 

 the hot and dry weather has retarded the work of the 

 dogs to a very great extent, the club has changed the date 

 of commencing the Trials to Monday, Nov. 11, thus 

 giving several days more time in which to prepare the 

 dogs that are to compete in the Trials. The week of Nov. 

 1 1 will give ample time to finish the United States Trials 

 before the commencement of the Eastern Trials. 



W. B. Stafford, Sec'y U. S. P. T. Club. 



Eastern Field Trials Club. 



Brooklyn, N. Y., Oct. 27.— Editor Forest and Stream: 

 Please add to the official list of All- Age entries, E. F. 

 trials, this much-belated arrival, which has been to Mis- 

 sissippi twice and to Washington P. O. once, a sort of 

 globe trotter: 



All-Age Sbake: Joe Bowers, black, white and tan 

 English setter dog, by De Soto ex Ruth Gates. Whyte, 

 Bedford, Miss. 



This gives us thirty entries in the All- Age Stake. 



Washington A. Coster. 



Opinions differ as to the lowest possible point yet reached by the 

 great daily papers. Some contend, and with reason, that it is in the 

 plan of some Boston papers, of publishing on the first page a quarter 

 of a column of flashy headlines, next a dozen lines of "news," and 

 filling the rest of the column with a blood-curdling description of 

 some loathsome disease and its infallible remedy. Others again give 

 the palm to the professional "interview" in which a man is recorded 

 as making an unlimited number of absurd, untruthful and generally 

 abusive remarks. The regular "interview" is expected to justify 

 omething sensational in the way of headlines, or perhaps in the case 

 of the evening papers a genuine "Extra," and when, as generally 

 happens, truth fails, invention steps in to fill the gap. 



The modern "interview" has thus far been considered as a peculiarly 

 American form of torture, but during the past week it has appeared 

 in a very advanced form in London; the interviewed being none other 

 fhan Lord Dunraven and the interviewer— the reporter of the United 

 the Press— august and conservative editor of the Meld. The interviews 

 were certainly well done from a newspaper standpoint; they were suffi- 

 ciently offensive to attract attention on this side, the one object in 

 view. Who is most to blame, Lord Dunraven or Mr. Kemp, is a mat- 

 ter that Americans will worry little over; the main point is that the 

 latter gentleman has in any way condescended to adopt such an 

 American institution. 



The news of the withdrawal of Mr. Rose's challenge was most un 

 welcome to the New York Y. C. ; hut as we look at it, the sooner such 

 a foolish business is ended the better for all concerned. No good sport 

 can possibly come from such an obviously after-dinner affair as the 

 Rose challenge was, and the New York Y. C. is well out of it. So far 

 as the club is concerned, the only occasion for regret should he that 

 the challenge has been in any way exploited as coming from the Prince 

 of Wales and intended as an open rehuff of Lord Dunraven. 



Mr. Rose has, by his foolish and ill-considered challenge, placed him- 

 self in a very embarrassing position ; but his mistake was in getting into 

 it, and not in getting out. It yet remains to he seen whether his first 

 brief cable will be followed by such explanation and apology as are 

 .clearly due to the New York Y. C. 



The Royal Victoria Y. C, as sponsor and guarantor for an unknown 

 challenger, is in the least enviable position of the three parties. 



The Field of Oct. 19 says editorially: 



Forest and Stream says Lord Dunraven has lost his status among 

 British yachtsmen by withdrawing from the third race. It is really 

 wonderful that Americans cannot realize our ideas of sport fairly 

 conducted. So far from Lord Dunraven having lost his status among 

 yachtsmen, his stand for fair play has raised him immeasurably in the 

 estimation of his countrymen. 



Having been directly on the spot throughout the season, and being 

 well inside of the wide circle of false reports and sensational misinfor- 

 mation which have confused observers at a distance, we consider that 

 we are better qualified to judge of the matter than the Field. Had Lord 

 Dunraven announced his determination to sail no more off New York 

 Immediately after the second race and before the protest was decided, 

 and had he omitted the foolish insistence on Marblehead, where all 

 the steamers would have gone before Valkyrie could have started, we 

 might have believed that his assigned reason of a crowded course was 

 the true one. On the contrary, Valkyrie was docked and specially 

 overhauled on Wednesday, and was at the line in perfect condition, 

 with the fleet far away, her opponent ready to meet her, and her own 

 conditions of a windward course in a moderate breeze and smooth 

 water. We cannot understand how the withdrawal of the yacht under 

 such circumstances can be construed as a "stand for fair play," or as 

 anything but childish pique. 



It the Meld will go carefully over Lord Dunraven's record, from the 

 date of his first challenge in 1889 down to his withdrawal from the last 

 race this year, it will find that, so far from making a bold stand for 

 fair play against notoriously unfair conditions, he has sought only 

 such special conditions as would benefit himself, and in return has 

 compromised the rights of all future challengers. That fair condi- 

 tions are offered to-day ia due in no way to Lord Dunraven's efforts, 

 but to the growth of public opinion in America in favor of fair play 

 and true sportsmanship, such as was once sadly lacking in the Cup 

 contests. 



The America's Cup. 



The past week has furnished some excitement and surprises in 

 yachting, but of a sort that might well have been dispensed with, and 

 the present situation is most unsatisfactory on all sides. Mr. Rose 

 has withdrawn his challenge, Lord Dunraven has repudiated an 

 alleged interview, or two alleged interviews, cabled to this country, 

 and explanations, disapprobation, repudiation and condemnation 

 are hurled about in a way that is simply confusing to all impartial 

 yachtsmen. 



On Oct. 22 the conditions drawn up by the Cup committee to govern 

 the races under the challenge of the Royal Victoria Y. C. and Mr. 

 Charles Day Rose with the cutter Distant Shore, and embodied in the 

 letter sent on Oct. 3(5, were made public in New York as follows: 



New York Y. C, ) 

 No. 67 Madison Avenue, V 

 Nkw York, Oct. 15. ) 



Dear Sir— We have the honor to inform you of the acceptance by 

 the New York Y. C. of the challenge from the Royal Victoria Y. C. 

 sent by you in the name of Mr. Charles D. Rose. 



In compliance with your request we submit the following proposals 

 for the conditions of the match, and at the same time we Hope you 

 will feel quite at liberty to make any suggestions, which we will be 

 glad to consider. 1 



Number of Races.— The match to be decided by the best three eut 

 of five races. 



Courses.— Starting from Sandy Hook Lightship. First race: To 

 windward or leeward and return. Second race: Equilateral triangle. 

 Third race: Similar to first race. Fourth race: Similar to second race. 

 Fifth race: Siiuilar to first race. 



The starting line and compass bearings to be announced as early as 

 practicable, 



In every case the course from the starting line to be laid to wind- 

 ward, if possible, from Sandy Hook Lightship. 



In case a course, as required by t he conditions, cannot be laid out 

 from Sandy Hook Lights trip the regatta committee may provide some 

 other suitable starting point, and in this case the preparatory signal 

 will be given about half an hour later than the time named for start- 

 ing from the Lightship. 



Length of Courses— The courses shall be 30 nautical miles in 

 length. , . ,. 



Start.— The starting signals shall be given at 11 A. M., and this time 

 shall not be changed, except as follows: 



First— By the regatta committee, as described in the preceding par- 

 agraph for changing the starting point. 



Second— By the regatta committee in ease of fog. 



Third— By the regatta committee if, in their opinion, the space 

 around the starting line is not sufficiently clear at the time appointed 

 for the start. 



Fourth— In case both yachts consent to a postponement, in which 

 case the regatta committee shall determine the time of the start. 



Fifth— In case of serious accident to either vessel, as hereinafter 

 provided. 



Signals.— The preparatory signal shall he given ten minutes before 

 the starting signal, and in case of a change in time of start a prelim- 

 inary signal shall be given ten minutes before the preparatory. 



At the starting signal a yacht may cross the line; trie exact time at 

 which a yacht crosses the line during the succeeding two minutes to 

 be taken as the start, and the end of that period as the start of the 

 one crossing after its expiration. 



If a race is not started by half-past 1 P. M. the regatta committee 

 shall have the right to declare the race postponed for the day, and no 

 race shall be started after 3 P. M. 



Time Limit.— If in any race neither yacht goes over the course with- 

 in five and a half hours, exclusive of time allowance, such race shall 

 not count and must be resailed. 



Selecting the Defender of the Cup.— The challenger shall be informed 

 at least one week before the first race what vessel is to defend the 

 Cup. 



New York Y. C. Rules to Govern.— The system of measurement, 

 time of allowance and racing rules of the New York Y. C. to govern 

 the races, except as hereinafter modified. 



Intervening Day.— Unless changed by agreement, one day shall 

 intervene between each racing day, not counting Sundays. 



Repeated Races.— An unfinished race of one kind shall be repeated 

 until finished. 



Accidents.— In case a serious accident occurs to either vessel prior 

 to the preparatory signal, she shall have sufficient time to effect 

 repairs before being required to start, or, If such accident occurs dur- 

 ing a race, before being required to start in the next race. 



Representatives.— Each vessel shall have on board during races a 

 representative named by her competitor. 



Manual Power. — Manual power only shall be used for working the 

 competing vessels. 



Measurement.— The competing yachts shall be measured with all of 

 the weights, dead and alive, on board which they intend to carry dur- 

 ing a race, but shall not have on board more persons, all told, during 

 any race than one for every 2ft. of racing length or fraction there- 

 of. Waste or water tanks, if carried, must be filled with water at the 

 time of the measurement. 



The restriction of the New York Y. C. rules as to floors, bulkheads, 

 doors, water tanks, bower anchor and cable to be waived. 



If either yacht, by alteration of trim or immersion, by dead weight, 

 increase her load water line length or in any way increase her spar 

 measurements, as officially taken, she must obtain a remeasurement 

 by special appointment before the next race, or, failing this, must 

 report the alteration to the measurer at the club house at 10 P. M. of 

 the day before the race following such alteration, and must arrange 

 with him for remeasurement, and if required be in the Erie Basin by 7 

 A. M. of the day of said race, and there remain until 9 A. M. if neces- 

 sary, for purposes of remeasurement. 



If either yacht decreases her measurements for sailing leDgth in 

 any way in order to profit thereby in time allowance in any race, she 

 must obtain a remeasurement by special appointment before such 

 race, or notify the measurer and be at his disposition as above de- 

 scribed. 



A measurement taken, as provided above, shall be final and not sub- 

 ject to protest by either party. 



In the event of the measurer being unable to obtain a measurement 

 which he considers accurate before a race a remeasurement shall he 

 taken as soon as possible after the race. 



Marking the l.w.l.— Distinct marks shall be placed at the l.w.l. at the 

 bow and as far aft as possible on each vessel. 



We would suggest for the date of the first race July 23, which will 

 be ten months from the receipt of the challenge by cable. In case, 

 however, you desire we will fix upon a later date. 



As you are probably aware, 90ft. is the limit of load waterline length 

 for single-masted vessels, and as the length named by you is so near 

 this, we would suggest that the only restriction be that neither vessel 

 exceed this length. 



You will observe that we have made the time limit five and one-half 

 hours instead of six, as in the last two contests; we have for some 

 time past considered that the speed of modern racing yachts rendered 

 such a change imperative. 



We take this opportunity to express our appreciation of the sprit of 

 the challenge and of the confidence which Mr. Rose has so courteously 

 shown in our committee. We shall look forward to a most interest- 

 ing contest, and meanwhile we hope that Mr. Rose will consider that 

 any services we can render him wiil be a great pleasure to us. 



A New York Yacht Club book will be sent to you by the next mail. 



We have the honor to remain your obedient servants, 



The America's Cup Committee, 



James D. Smith, Chairman. 

 A. Cass Canfield, Secretary. 

 Percy Thellusson, Esq., 

 Secretary Royal Victoria Yacht Club, Ryde, Isle of Wight. 



While in the main identical with the terms of the Valkyrie-Defender 

 rules, there are several important changes of detail; the regatta com- 

 mittee reserves the right to postpone the start in the event of undue 

 crowding about the line; the time limit is shortened from six to five 

 and one-half hours, and the limit of crew is decreased. 



Hardly were these conditions made known before, on the morning 

 of Oct. 23, the following cables were received: 



Newmarket, Oct. 23. 



Oddie, Secretary New York Yacht Club: 



Owing to the general impression that my challenge might be con- 

 strued as an expression of opinion on the result of the last race, I 

 much regret having to ask you to withdraw the same. 



Charles D. Rose. 

 Ryde, Oct. 29. 



Secretary of the New York Yacht Club: 



Have received letter from Rose withdrawing challenge for Amer- 

 ica's Cup. Have called committee. Will mail you officially. 



Thellusson. 



Secretary Oddie replied— 

 diaries D. Rose, 89 Hill street, Berkeley square, London: 



Cable announcing withdrawal of your challenge received. 



Oddie, Secretary. 

 Secretary Royal Victoria Yacht Club, Ryde, England: 



Your cable this date received. Oddie, Secretary. 



Knowing full well the manner in which the ordinary newspaper 

 interview is manufactured, and the unreliability and untruth of this 

 style of "news," we have refrained from quoting or commenting on 

 the various alleged interviews with Lord Dunraven at Newport, Mr. 

 Ratsey at Cowes, and Mr. Watson at Glasgow. When Mr. Watson 

 first visited this country, in the fall of 1886, he kept well clear of the 

 professional interviewers, with good reason, after the treatment Sir 

 Richard Sutton had met with on his first arrival in the previous year. 

 One of the many reporters who were on his track weDt to a yachts- 

 man for information as to the possible wherabouts of his prey, and 

 said: "I don't want to bother Mr. Watson or to talk to him, if 1 can 

 only get near enough to see him and to say, 'How do you do?' I will 

 attend to the interview." The many alleged interviews of the past 

 season bear evidence of having been manufactured on the same plan. 



On the arrival of Lord Dunraven the following was cabled to the 

 American papers, but we passed it over as at best;un verified; and even 

 it true, of but little importance. 



London, Oct. 19.— Lord Dunraven, who arrived at Cowes from New- 

 port, R. I., yesterday on board Mr. Laycock's steam yacht Valhalla, 

 was seen in London this afternoon by a representative of the United 

 Press. His Lordship was looking wonderfully well after his three 

 weeks' sail across the ocean. In the course of a long talk with the 

 reporter on the subject of the events connected with the recent con- 

 tests for the America's Cup Lord Dunraven expressed himself in the 

 following language: 



" It was a great mistake on the part of the New York Yacht Club 

 not to have postponed the third race so that an unimpeded contest 

 could have been assured beyond any possible doubt. The challenge 

 issued by an American for the America's Cup is most disagreeable, 

 not to say offensive, to me, for the reason that the American people 

 have been assured by the American press that the challenge is intended 

 as a mark of censure upon me and a vindication of the action of the 

 Cup Committee. The New York Yacht Club, however, knows per- 

 fectly well that it is not an English challenge, although it is backed by 

 the committee of the Royal Victoria Club, which committee by this 

 time must greatly regret its acquiescence in an unconditional challenge 



made by an Anglo-American. The attitude of the New York Yacht 

 Club's Committee in accepting the challenge as a vindication of its 

 conduct is simply ludicrous. Current gossip here is that two Ameri- 

 can gentlemen are associated with Mr. Rose in building the Distant 

 Shore, and the members of the New York Yacht Club must be simple 

 indeed if they fancy that Englishmen attach any importance to Mr. 

 Rose's challenge. 



"My motive in laying up the Valkyrie in Brooklyn was mainly the 

 hope that she would get a chance to race for the Cup again in 1896 

 against the Defender, especially after the hint to this effect (hat was 

 thrown out by the New York Herald. Another reason for my laying 

 her up was because I was unable to communicate with Messrs. McCal- 

 mont and Robinson, who are part owners of the Valkyrie, to ascer- 

 tain their views of the situation. Until I confer with them the future 

 of the Valkyrie is uncertain, but I have many projects in view. I 

 especially desire to have it out with the Defender in a fair, square race 

 over a clear course. 



"A great deal has been said about Mr. Iselin's offer to resail the pro- 

 tested race. I would gladly have done so if Mr. Iselin had offered to 

 withdraw his protest and resail the race, but since he asked in the 

 matter the decision of the committee, which disqualified the Valkyrie, 

 resailing the race was out of the question, even if the committee had 

 agreed to it. 



"I was not aware of Mr. Iselin's proposal to resail the whole series 

 of races until I saw it in the papers. I would have agreed to this if 

 the committee had sanctioned it and had undertaken to provide a 

 clear course." 



Lord Dunraven spoke in the highest terms of the individual mem- 

 bers of the Cup committee and other American yachtsmen, and said 

 his only regret was that the committee in its executive capacity had 

 caused him disappointment. 



Two days later the following, which we published last week, ap^ 

 peared: 



London, Oct. 21.— Dixon Kemp, the well-known yachting authority 

 and editor of the Yacht Racing Calendar and Review, has furnished 

 to the United Press exclusively the substance of a second interview 

 with Lord Dunraven. 



His Lordship expressed himself as being still strong in the belief 

 that the Valkyrie IU. is the superior of the Defender in sailing to the 

 windward in moderate breezes, and very much taster than the Ameri- 

 can boat in running before the wind. He admitted, however, that the 

 Defender was the faster boat in reaching. 



"What I should particularly like," said Lord Dunraven, "would be 

 to have the Defender tight it out with the Valkyrie in the Mediterra- 

 nean." 



If this could be arranged, he added, he would then have the Valkyrie 

 prepared to meet the American boat. He thought that the yachts 

 would have a fair trial in the Mediterranean regattas, but the Valky- 

 rie would doubtless be greatly handicapped by the French rating 

 rules, which include measurement of beam and girth besides sail 

 area. 



If the Defender should proceed to the Mediterranean it would settle 

 once and for all the qui stion of whether the American boat is built 

 and rigged sufficiently strong to cross the Atlantic on her own bot- 

 tom. 



Lord Dunraven expressed to Mr. Kemp his belief that a decision to 

 bring the Defender over to the Mediterranean lies entirely with W. 

 K. Vanderbilt, who owns eight-tenths of the boat, while Messrs. Iselin 

 and Morgan each own one-tenth. 



The prizes for the coming Mediterranean regatta are much more 

 valuable than ever before, and Lord Dunraven is convinced that 

 grand races could be sailed with the Britannia, Afisa, Satanita, Val- 

 kyrie 1H. and Defender. 



A representative of the United Press, having shown to Charles D. 

 Rose, the challenger for the America's Cup through the Royal Vic- 

 toria Y. C, a copy of an interview with Lord Dunraven published in 

 yesterday's New York papers, that gentleman said this morning: 



"I am very sorry that such things should continue to be published. 

 They do no good and only tend to stir up bad feeling." 



Mr. Rose then dictated to the reporter the following: 



"I very much regret that the question of my challenge should be 

 construed as in any way having anything to do with the action of the 

 New York Y. C. My challenge was made simply and solely with the 

 object of trying to recover the America's Cup. 



"I shall take the earliest opportunity to see Lord Dunraven, and 

 should I learn from him that my challenge ought not to have been 

 made before consulting him I shall at once withdraw it. No one is 

 ooncerned in this challenge except myself." 



While it is not plain that the first interview was written by Mr. 

 Dixon Kemp, it would appear that he was the "representative of the 

 United Press" and the "reporter" who is mentioned as specially inter- 

 viewing Lord Dunraven. On Oct. 23 the following appeared.in the 

 New York Herald: 



"As Lord Dunraven in his last communication to the America's Cup 

 committee said that there was no need of further comment anent the 

 Cup races of 1895, there was great surprise manifested iu yachting 

 circles on this side on account of the interviews which were sent from 

 England to this country during the last three days. 



"In these interviews Lord Dunraven was put down as finding 

 fault with everything, and he was said to be actually in the sulks, 



"The Interviews were recabled to England, and came to the notice 

 of Lord Dunraven Monday. As soon as the latter read them he lost 

 no time in contradicting the cable stories, for he immediately cabled 

 his American representative in this city, Mr. H. Maitland Kersey, 

 authorizing the latter to deny all interviews in toto. 



"Lord Dunraven, in his cable to Mr. Kersey, says: "The interviews 

 are wholly bogus; never talked in any such way, nor have uttered a 

 word about the Cup races to any one in England; in fact, I have re- 

 fused to say anything.' 



"Lord Dunraven does not know for a certainty that the interview 

 with Watson, which recently appeared in the Glasgow Citizen, is true 

 or not, but if Watson has been treated as he .has then Lord Dunraven 

 presumes that the interview with Watson is also false. 



' 'Lord Dunraven evidently wants to be put right before the American 

 people, and at the earliest moment possible. Yachtsmen will be 

 pleased to learn from Lord Dunraven himself that no such interviews 

 ever took place, because they Were in such tone that they would do no 

 good to yachting. 



"The writer had a long private talk with Lord Dunraven at Newport, 

 and while not making it public, it is no breach of confidence to state 

 that Lord Dunraven, instead of showing any feeling, acted quite the 

 contrary. In fact, he looked very favorably on the suggestion that he 

 leave the Valkyrie here, and race her next season, which he has now 

 done. 



"The make-up of the bogus interviews, whether in England or In 

 this country, only throws discredit on himself, for, with cable between 

 the two countries. It is only a question of five hours for positive 

 denials. A. G. McVby," 



It Is worthy of note that the gentleman who has apparently consti- 

 tuted himself the special representative of Lord Dunraven, and who 

 now comes forward with ready excuses for his Lordship, only last 

 week made use of an alleged and questionable interview with Mr, 

 Watson as an excuse for a bitter personal attack; assuming from the 

 start that the interview was genuine throughout. The sequel to Mr. 

 Kemp's interviews is as follows: 



London, Oct. 23.— Dixon Kemp, the yachting authority and editor 

 of the Yacht Racing Calendar and Review, through whom both of 

 the recently cabled Dunraven interviews were furnished to the United 

 Press and by the London -manager of the association accepted as 

 authentic, has written to the United Press the following note under 

 to-day's date: 



"I saw Lord Dunraven at 27 Norfolk street, Park Lane, last Satur- 

 day noon, and sent you some of the topics of the conversation which 

 took place between us, interspersed with my own remarks. Unfor- 

 tunately, you attributed some of my remarks to Lord Dunraven, espe- 

 cially the one stating that the New York Y. C. knew perfectly well 

 that Mr. Rose's challenge for the America's Cup was not an English 

 challenge, and that the Royal Victoria Y. C. was sorry for having 

 backed it. These were purely my remarks, as I wrote you last even- 

 ing. I very much regret the misunderstanding. Faithfully yours, 



"Dixon Kemp," 



After the receipt of this letter the manager of the London office of 

 the United Press sent the following telegram to Lord Dunraven at his 

 residence in Norfolk street: 



"Will you kindly inform me if the disclaimer of an interview with 

 you, which was printed in yesterday morning's London papers and 

 credited to the United Press, was authorized by you? As the state- 

 ment ia calculated to do us some damage, and as I hold the copy of an 

 interview made at my request by Dixon Kemp, it is necessary for us 

 to protect ourselves. I shall accordingly be obliged to you for your 

 answer." 



No reply to the foregoing has as yet been received, but an explana- 

 tion of its delay may be found in Mr. Kemp's letter referred to above 

 as having been written last night, which was received in this morning's 

 mail. The letter is as follows: 



"Lord Dunraven called on me just now. He is not going to make 

 any revelations at the dinner in Cardiff or elsewhere. In your cable- 

 gram to New York you make him say that the New York Yacht Club 

 knew perfectly well that Mr. Rose's challenge was not an English 

 challenge. Lord Dunraven did not say this. The remark was mine in 

 the letter I wrote you. Dixon Kemp." 



It will be seen from the foregoing that Lord Dunraven does not ven- 

 ture to deny the interview, but calls upon Mr. Kemp to ask him to 

 moderate a certain portion of it, now desiring to repudiate his hasty 

 language. Those who know Lord Dunraven will read betweeen the 

 lines. There is no doubt that he said all that the interview contained, 

 and that JMr. Kemp out of pure friendliness, wishes to shield him, 



