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FOREST AND STREAM. 



[Nov. 18, 1306. 



POINTS AND FLUSHES. 



Under date of Nov. 5 Mr. P. T. Madison, secretary of 

 the Continental Field Trials Club, writes us as follows 

 concerning the abandonment of the trials: "I have re- 

 ceived letters from Stoddard, Buckle, Mayfield, Gray, 

 Johnson and Hammond, and they all tell the same story: 

 'No birds.' Mr. Stoddard worked Tick Boy and other 

 good dogs all day without finding a bird. They all say 

 that from nothing to three small bevies in a day's hunt is 

 the result. There are no birds in North Carolina; Tucker 

 could not find any birds at High Point and has gone to 

 South Carolina. As a result of this state of affairs we 

 have received but twenty-six entries to our All- Age Stake. 

 I therefore went to Chicago yesterday with proxies 

 enough to constitute a quorum of the advisory board. 

 After canvassing the situation thoroughly we decided that 

 the best thing to do under the circumstances was to de- 

 clare the trials off. The forfeits will all be returned at 

 once, and the club will be in a financial condition to give 

 trials next year. I regret exceedingly this state of affairs 

 and yet I think we did the right thing." 



Mr. C. E. Buckle's excellent communication is worthy 

 of the earnest consideration of all who are interested in 

 field trials. He points out a feature which at one time 

 was so common that it was farcical. It is still used too 

 much. Criticism from fair and skillful sportsmen like Mr. 

 Buckle would soon suppress the absurdities which have 

 more or less a footing in the competition. 



The Messrs. Eutherfurd will sell at public auction a 

 number of fox-terriers to make room for younger stock. 

 For particulars, see their announcement in our advertis- 

 ing columns. 



Messrs. G. Muss-Arnolt, Washington A. Coster, Fred. 

 Hodgman and S. C. Bradley arranged to leave for Newton, 

 N. C, on the 12th inst. , the Eastern Field Trials Club's 

 trials being the attraction. 



We take the liberty of publishing an item, concerning 

 dogs, from a letter written by Lieut. H. T. Allen, for some 

 years military attache at St. Petersburgh and now of Fort 

 Riley, Kans. Mr. Allen mentions that he has started a 

 kennel of Russian wolfhounds which number five at pres- 

 ent, including Col. Dietz and two which Mr. Allen import- 

 ed. He remarks: "I could get no better dogs or better 

 bred ones in Russia than these I have." Mr. Allen has 

 organized a post foxhound club, to whose revenues he 

 will devote the proceeds of the sales of puppies from his 

 kennel, a generosity which is all the more admirable for 

 its rarity. 



The Western Massachusetts Fox Club's eighth annual 

 meet is fortunate in having its meet after rain had fallen, 

 thus escaping the effects of the druoght which have 

 proved so disastrous to similar events. This meet takes 

 place at Westfield, Mass. on Nov. 13 and 14. The annual 

 dinner is served on the evening of the first day. 



Mr. Wm. Brailsford, who has so skillfully managed the 

 interests of Mr. Hey wood-Lonsdale in the field trials and 

 withal so pleasingly as to add many more to his already 

 large circle of friends in America, sailed for England on 

 the Majestic on Wednesday of this week. Mr. Brailsford 

 and Bob Armstrong made a brief call in Forest and 

 Stream's office on Tuesday. The former expressed himself 

 as being much pleased wiih his visit. 



In our advertising columns, C. C. Gaines, Poughkeep- 

 sie, N. Y. , offers broken setter, G. A. Buckstaif , Osh- 

 kosh, Wis. , offers prize-winning beagles. West Philadel- 

 phia Kennels, Philadelphia, offer terriers and collies. 

 Box 108, Stevensville, Pa., offers setters. J. Feulner, 

 Cherry Valley, N. Y., offers setter. H. N. Howell, Lan- 

 caster, Pa., offers broken setter. I. M. D., New York, 

 offers cockers. G. O. Allen, Mountville, Conn., offers 

 broken setters. F. Cavanaugh, Boston, offers broken set- 

 ter. 



Postponement of Meet. 



The executive committee of the National Fox Hunters' 

 Association met at Lexington Nov. 6 and decided to post- 

 pone their annual meet until Dec. 2, '95. Cause, unprece- 

 dented drought. Roger Williams, ch. com. 



KENNEL NOTES. 



Kennel Notes are Inserted without charge ; and blanks 

 (furnished free) will be sent to any address. Prepared 

 Blanks sent free on application. 



BRED. 



Mr. E. Goodall's Beauty, cocker spaniel bitch, Oct. 19, to Corktown 



Cupid. 



Mr. Arthur Knowlton's Fern, English setter bitch, Oct. 26, to Kent 



Mr. W. H. Worth's 

 Lawn Hanel, Gordon setter bitch, Sept. 2, to Don N. 

 Lawn Nance, Gordon setter bitch, Aug. 24, to Don N. 

 Hilda, Gordon setter bitch, Sept. 4, to champion Rexmont, 

 SALES. 



Corktown Kennels have sold 



CEnone, cocker spaniel bitch, to Mr. F. Boulton. 



Corktown Flirt, cocker spaniel bitch, to Mr. G. Crabb. 



Corktown Trilby, cocker spaniel bitch, to Mr. E. Goodall. 



Corktown Chappie, cocker spaniel dog, to Mr. E. W. Fiske, 



Corktown Rex, cocker spaniel dog, to Mr. Robt. Aull. 



Corktown Taffy, cocker spaniel dog, to Mr. John Firsching. 

 Mr. W. H. Worth has sold 



Lawn Flirt, Gordon setter bitch, to Mr. Wm. Snyder. 



Lawn Donald, Gordon setter dog, to Mr. Walter L. Wilder. 



Lawn Riot, Gordon setter dog, to Dr. J. W. McCausland. 

 Mr. J. N. Alexander has sold Chappie, wire-haired fox-terrier dog, 

 to Mr. F. A. Cadwell. 



fzchting. 



The Boston Herald sets forth in excellent shape the many serious 

 objections to the continuance of the 90ft, class and the advantages to 

 be gained by the revival in its place of the 70ft. class or its modern 

 equivalent. We can commend the Herald's arguments most heartily, 

 as they are the same that we have advanced since 1886, and which on 

 each occasion have been ridiculed by the Herald, with its fallacious 

 plea for the "fastest yacht" to defend the America's Cup. What it 

 says to-day was equally true when the New York Y. C. refused to 

 enter into an agreement with the Royal Clyde Y. C, n the fall of 1886; 

 when the new deed of gift was made immediately after the receipt of 

 Mr. Charles 8weet's challenge in 1887, and again <n 1889 when the 



motion that the club should meet Valkyrie I. with a 70-footer was de- 

 clared out of order by the Commodore. We sincerely hope that the 

 argument* of the Boston Herald may prove convincing, and that the 

 last yacht of the 90£t. class has been built for international or any 

 other racing. At the same time it must be a matter of regret if the 

 class be allowed to pass away, by conversion or corrosion, without 

 some conclusive racing between Valkyrie IU. and Defender. We 

 should like to see these two yachts raced thoroughly and skillfully for 

 a series of races, no matter what the prize may be; until their exact 

 merits on every point of sailing and under all ordinary conditions are 

 satisfactorily demonstrated, and then to see them give way to a 

 fleet of smaller yachts, of not over 75ft. racing length. 



We learn with great regret that the Boston Herald disapproves of 

 the new 15ft. class, on the excellent ground that it is promoted by 

 "Anglo-Maniacs." This is a serious charge, and worthy of full con- 

 sideration before anything further is done toward new challenges and 

 boats. In view of the very high position in international racing now 

 occupied by the "Boston Herald man" as the American representative 

 of Lord Dunraven, it might be well for the Sean anhaka Corinthian Y . 

 C. to seek his advice as to just what obsolete type of "mean length" 

 skimming-dish or sandbagger the club should adopt in place of the 

 15-footer, in order tp avoid the stigma of encouraging Anglo-Mania. 



Defender's Measurement. 



A perfect storm of angry condemnation has been aroused in this 

 country by the news cabled from London on Nov. 9, that Lord Dun- 

 raven, in a long article in the Field of that date, had made the charge 

 that Defender took on ballast between the two official measureru^uts 

 made on Sept. 6 and Sept. 8, The article in the Field, which will be 

 published by his Lordship in pamphlet form, alludes as follows to this 

 matter: 



' I would confine myself to the cause of my withdrawal, namely, 

 overcrowding of the course, were it not that other matters have been 

 alluded to in the report to the New York Y. C. made by the Cup com- 

 mittee." 



He thereupon proceeds to take up the matter of measuring the 

 yachts, and quotes terms of the agreement, including the New York 

 Y. C. rule that the measurer should affix distinctive marks at each end 

 of the load waterliae. He then goes on: 



"I was under the impression that this rule meant that vessels would 

 be marked on stem and stern in such a way as to make marks exter- 

 nally visible, as is the case under our yacht racing association rules, 

 but I learned at a meeting with the Cup committee on Aug. 30 that, 

 according to the practice of the New York Yacht Club, the load water- 

 line length is marked by a couple of copper tacks on deck. I did not 

 consider this method of marking satisfactory, as it obviously afforded 

 no means of judging whether the vessel was sailing on her proper 

 measured length or not, but Icontented myself with observing that it 

 did not appear to me of much practical value, as I did not feel justified 

 in demanding a departure from the ordinary usage without some 

 strong and definite cause. 



"On Sept. 4 Mr. Smith, chairman of the Cup committee, informed 

 me that Mr. Iselin was anxious for the agreement to be amended so as 

 to insure that one clear week day should intervene between each race. 

 To this I agreed and took the opportunity afforded by this reopening 

 of the agreement to press upon the committee, in the following letter, 

 my views on the subject of measuring and marking previously ex- 

 pressed in conversation: 



" '439 Fifth avenue, Sept. 5, 1S95. 

 " 'Dear Ma. Canfield: I have received your letter notifying me of 

 the alteration of dates. That question having been reopened, I wish 

 to call your attention to another matter which, on reflection, I do not 

 consider satisfactory. This contest may possibly extend over a period 

 of ten days or a fortnight. It is obvious that alterations in the load 

 waterliae length of a vessel may, under present conditions, be made 

 without an owner's knowledge and without the possibility of detec- 

 tion. It is, of course, impossible to guard absolutely against such an 

 occurrence, but these contests cannot be compared with ordinary 

 races, and in the interest of the public and of the owners, who have to 

 do their best to see that rules are obeyed, it is surely right and neces- 

 sary that the Cup committee should take every precaution to see that 

 the vessels sail on their measured load waterline length. 

 ^" 'For this reason I request that the measurer be instructed to mark 

 each vessel's measured load waterhne length on stem and stern, and 

 to take any steps that he or the committee tbiuk advisable, by re- 

 measurement at any time, or by any other means, to ascertain that 

 the;load waterline length as measured is not*exeeeded in sailing. To 

 mark the vessels is a perfectly simple matter. A scratch wiih a file 

 or chisel and a distinct paint mark should suffice. Youra very truly, 



" 'Dunbaven.' " 



"To that letter I received no written reply, but my understanding 

 was, and I was told verbally, that the committee saw no object in re- 

 considering the points involved. I did not further press tue matter, 

 as I considered the committee responsible, and that, unless necessity 

 compelled, I had no right to insist. The agreement was sigtied by 

 Mr. Smith and myself on board of the Valkyrie's tender, City of 

 Bridgeport, on Sept. 6. 



"The first race was Bailed Sept. 7. I am of the opinion that the 

 Defender did not sail on her measured load waterliae length during 

 that race. I should first explain that, to the best of my belief, none 

 of the gentlemen interested in the Defender lived on board of her or on 

 board of her tender, the Hattie Palmer; that the Defender's crew slept 

 on board of her, and that in consequence a good deal of material — men's 

 cots, etc.— had to be transferred Backward and forward between the 

 Hattie Balmer and the Defender. We had a good opportunity of 

 observing the Defender when she lay close to us in Erie Basin, pre- 

 vious to docking, after her final trial race with the Vigilant, on Aug. 

 31. When she came into the Basin to be measured on Sept. 6, it was 

 plain to me, as to all on board the City of Bridgeport, tnat she was 

 floating considerably higher tnan on former occasions. This was, of 

 course, quite unobjectionable. 



"I may mention that, according to Mr. Hyslop, the official measurer, 

 the Defender was some Gin. shorter when measured for the Cup races 

 than when measured for the Goelet cup race. Both yachts lay ioside 

 Sandy Hook on Friday night. The Defender's tender, Hattie Palmer, 

 lay alongside of her, and the crew were at work from dark to 1 o'clock 

 in the morning. On Saturday morning early my attention was drawn 

 by those on board the City of Bridgeport, including representatives 

 of her American crew, to the fact that the Defender was visioly 

 deeper in the water than when measured. She so appeared to me, but 

 as her tender was alongside and engaged, apparently, in taking ma- 

 terial out of her, it was impossible to form a definite opinion at that 

 time. 



" When I put Mr. Henderson, my representative, on board the De- 

 fender about 9 o'clock in the morning, after the Hattie Palmer had 

 left her, I felt perfectly certain that th6 Defender was immersed 

 deeper than when measured. Not only was her bobstay bolt nearer 

 the water, which might have been the result of an alteration of trim, 

 but judging by the line of bronze plating and by the fact that a pipe 

 amiasuips, which was flush with the water when she was measured, 

 was nowhere visible, she was in my deliberate opiuion floating about 

 4in. deeper in the water than when measured. 



"I was reluctant to make a formal complaint to the Cup committee 

 on a matter which it was, of course, impossible for me to verify, and 

 in any case nothing could be done before the race was started. But 

 as soon as Mr. Latham A. Fish, a member of the committee, wme on 

 board the Valkyrie as the Defender's representative, and before the 

 race was started, I stated the whole case to him. I told him I tnought 

 that some mistake had been made, and that all the weight put into 

 the Defender, after measurement, had not been taken out before the 

 race; that I was positively certain she was sailing at least a foot be- 

 yond her proper length, and I requested him to take the earliest 

 opportunity of mentioning the matter to the committee. 



"Mr. Fish asked me what suggestions I could make. 1 replied to the 

 effect that I wished the committee to put one of its members or some 

 reliable representative on board of each yacht immediately after the 

 race, and to have both vessels remeasured, if possible, that evening. 

 If that were impossible, that the members of the committee or their 

 representatives should stay on board in charge of the vessels until 

 they were measured; that the load waterline should be marked on 

 both vessels externally, in such a way as to be plainly visible, and that 

 the members of the committee should take any other steps they 

 thought desirable to insure that the yachts should not exceed their 

 load waterline length when racing 



"I put Mr. Fish on board of the committee boat Immediately after 

 the race. No action was taken that evening beyond ordering the 

 vessels to be remeasured and marked externally on the day follow- 

 ing. No members or representatives of the committee were placed in 

 charge pending remeasurement, as I had requested. Had this been 

 done my contention that the Defender exceeded her measured length, 

 and the extreme limit of length imposed by the agreement and deed 

 of gift, namely, 90ft., would have been proved or disproved. The De- 

 fender lay on Saturday night at Bay Ridge with the Hattie Palmer 

 alongside of her. Both yachts were measured the following day, 

 Sunday afternoon, when tneir load waterline length was found tfl be 

 practically the same as when measured on the Friday previous. Bug, 



obviously, that fact affords no proof that either or both of them had 

 not exceeded their measured length when sailing on Saturday. 



"My action in making this ooinplaint has been severely criticised. I 

 will only say that I considered it my duty to act as I did. and that I 

 asked for nothing that I was not ready and willing to submit to mv- 

 self." * 



The foregoing is all the pamphlet contains on the subject of meas- 

 urement. The rest is a restatement of Dunraven's case. 



4t Mr. Iselin's request a special meeting of the New York Y. C. will 

 be held on Nov. 18 to consider the subject of Lord Dunraven's charge. 



Mr. Rose's Late Challenge. 



The following correspondence probably diepises finally of the 

 Challenge sent by Mr Charles Day Hose and the Victoria Y. C: 



_. 39 Hill street, Berkeley Square, Oct. 29, 1895. 



Hear Sir: I am in receipt of your letter of Oct. 16, and again beg to 

 thank you for all the courtesy you have extended to me in my recent 

 challenge for the America Cup. 



I beg that you will accept my assurance of my great regret in having 

 found it necessary to withdraw the same. 



I am writing to Mr. J. D. Smith, the chairman of the committee, on 

 the subject and have no doubt that you will have an opportunity of 

 learning from him the motives that have influenced me in coming to 

 this decision. 6 

 JThe outcome is naturally a great disappointment to all those that 

 desire to S fe a fair contest. Yours faithfully, Charles D. Rose, 



J. V. S. Oddie, Esq , Secretary, New York Y. C, New York. 



_ Royal Victoria Y. C, Ryde, Oct. 28, '95. 



JJbar bra: I am instructed by the sailing committee of the Royal 

 victoria Y. C to confirm my telegram of Oct. 24 as follows- 

 'Secretary New York Y. 0„ Nevj York: 



'-Have received letter from Mr. Rose withdrawing challenge for 

 America Cup. Have called committee. Will mail you officially. 



T , , "Thelldsson." 



I also forward you a copy of Mr. C. D. Rose's letter. 



I therefore, on behalf of the Royal Victoria Yacht Club, hereby 

 withdraw the challenge for the America Cup sent by this club in the 

 name of Mr. C. D, Rose. 



I beg to acknowledge the receipt of your letters dated Oct. 9 and 16, 

 for which I am much obliged. 



I have the honor to be, sir, your obedient servant, 

 m T tt o ^ ^ „ Percv Thellusson, Secretary. 



To J. V. S. Oddie, Esq., Secretary New York Y. C, New York. 



Suffolk House, Newmarket, Oct. 22, 1895 

 Dear Sir: In view of the repeated comments that my challenge for 

 the America Cup might be construed as an expression of opinion on 

 Lord Dunraven's action in connection with th =. last, race, I beg that 

 you will kindly cable to the New York Yacht Club committee that I 

 desire to withdraw my challenge. 



I should like to add that when I decided to send a challenge I did so 

 BOlely in the interests of sport and with the desire to win back the 

 America Cup, and that no question concerning any incidents of the 

 last series or races in any way influenced me. I therefore naturally 

 deplore my action having been misconstrued. Believe me yours faith- 

 ful ' v ' , „ . , Charles D. Rose. 



To the Secretary of the New York Yacht Club. 



"James D Smith, Fsq., AS Broad street. New York: 



"Dear Sir— I have the honor to acknowledge the receipt of your 

 favors of Oct, 15 and 16, the former advising me of the appointment 

 of a committee of gentlemen to arrange the conditions of a match for 

 the America's Cup of 1896, and the latter inclosiog copy of a letter 

 . sent to the Secretary of the Royal Victoria Y. C. embodying the condi- 

 tions formulated. 



"Since your letters were written you will have received intimation 

 that, to my great regret, I have decided to withdraw my challenge. 



"I have been influenced in coming to this decision entirely through 

 the motives that have been attributed to my action in making the 

 challenge. b 



"Although it is, perhaps, unnecessary to send you a formal contra- 

 diction of many statements that have been made, I should be glad if 

 you would Uinoly assure your committee that when I decided on send- 

 ing the challenge it was done entirely in the interests cf sport gener- 

 ally, and with the desire to win back the America's Cup, and at the 

 same time it never occurred to me for one moment that my action 

 would be construed by the public into a personal expression of'opinion 

 on the result of the last series of races. As, however, the press gener- 

 ally, and a certain section of the public, thought fit to impute to me 

 other motives, and such as might tend to weaken the good feeling 

 that has hitherto existed between the sporting community of the two 

 countries. I trust that your committee wilt recognize that I have 

 taken the only course that is possible, and exonerate me from any in- 

 tention of treating the acce ptance of my challenge in any other way 

 than with the consideration it is entitled to. 



"I beg to thank you personally and your committee for the 

 courteous manner in which they have dealt with my challenge, and 

 only regret that I have found it impossible to proceed further in the 

 matter. "I remain yours faithfully, 



, „„ „ "Charles D. Rose." 



"39 Hill street, Berkeley Square, Oct. 29, 1895." 



Society of Naval Architects and Marine 

 Engineers. 



THIRD ANNUAL MEETING. 



New York, Nov. 7-S. 

 The first session of the third annual meeting of the Society of Naval 

 Architects and Marine Engineers was opened at 10 A. M. on Thursday, 

 Nov. 7, at the house of the American Society of Mechanical Engineers 

 12 W. 31st st , New York, with President Grisccim in the chair. After' 

 a short address by the president and the reading of the report of I he 

 auditing committee, and other routine business, the first paper 

 on -'American Maritime Development," was read, by Capt. Hei.ry C. 

 Taylor, U. S N., President of the Naval War College. The paper p e- 

 sen ted forcibly and at some length the opportunities for the develop- 

 ment of the commerce of the United States in the northern portion of 

 South America.Capt. Taylor strongly urging the necessity for studying 

 the details of this trade with a view to providing the best poi-sibie 

 types of vessels lor it. He also urged the necessity for the early com- 

 pletion of the Nicaragua Canal. The paper elicited general commen- 

 dation. 



The Centerboard. 



Owing to an unforeseen occurrence, it became necessary to postpone 

 paper No. 2 until Kriday, so paper No. 9 was put in its place, on "The 

 Centerboard— Its Influence on Design, its Value and its Proper Use," by 

 W. P. Stephens, Associate, Yachting Editor of The Forest and Stream. 

 The papers are all copyrighted by the society, but the following 

 extracts from Mr. Stephens' paper are published by permission: 



The words "ship" or "vessel" convey inevitably to the mind the idea 

 of a single unbroken water-tight structure, oblong in general propor- 

 tions, built up on a solid keel, and partaking more or less, whether in 

 the primitive canoe of the savage or the great modern "liner," of one 

 conventional form. 



Outside of this great class, comprising the vast majority of craft of 

 all ages, is found a mixed fleet of nondescript types which, while serv- 

 ing each its own special purpose, depart greatly from the accepted 

 ideal of a ship, and, in many cases, violate all the canons of naval 

 science. In this class are the various catamarans, the balsas, the out- 

 rigged proas, and the surf boats of Madras, and, most remarkable of 

 all such exceptional types, the centerboard craft which has figured so 

 prominently for nearly a century in the history of navigation in 

 America. 



To us, familiar with it from our earliest knowledge of the water, the 

 striking characteristics of the type appeal with little force; but if, 

 with our knowledge of the sea, of naval construction.land of the strains 

 and stresses to which every vessel is subjected, the idea were laid 

 before us for the first time of a vessel with the entire backbone and 

 floor construction cut away for the middle third of her length, devoid 

 of deck frame almost from mast to rudder post, with a great box 

 amidships open to the sea, and with a thin movable plane projecting 

 deep below the bottom, it would be strange if the majority would not 

 condemn on sight a combination so unmjchanical, so lubberly, and so 

 dangerous. Looking at the centerboard as nearly as possible from 

 their point of view, a purely theoretical one, we can comprehend in a 

 measure the feeling which led the naval architects and yachtsmen of 

 Great Britain to retain until so late a date as 1887 the rule prohibiting 

 the entry of a centerboard yacht. 



In that earnest and even oitter controversy between the adherents 

 of the keel and centerboard types which has extended over the greater 

 part of the past fifteen years, and in which it has been my lot to take 

 part as a strong partisan of the keel boat, a great deal has been written 

 on both sides, but little of it other than controversial, and of no 

 permanent technical value. Now that the fight has ended in the full 

 recognition of the keel yacht in America and the admission of the 

 centerboard yacht to all British races, all partisan feeling has disap- 

 peared, and, with the prevalence of broader views on both sides through 

 the surprising developments of modern yacht designing, it should be 

 possible to sum up, more thoroughly and fairly than has yet been 

 done, the points, bad and good, of the centerboard type. 



The origin and early use of the centerboard may well be omitted and 



