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On Long Island. 



VERNON GUN CLUB. 



Brook ian, N. Y., Nov. 9.— Only six members of the Vernon Gun 

 Club put in an appearance at the club's grounds, Enfield street, near 

 Liberty avenue, this afternoon The weather was vary flae and. the 

 conditions altogether as perfect for trap shooting as one could wish. 

 Seven events, all at 10 targets, were shot during the afternoon: 



Events: 12 3 4 5 6 7 Events: 1 !J 3 4 5 G 7 



W Thompson. 7 10 6 9 8 .... ' Barron 9 7 6 



Wright 4 7 4 6 3 6.. Emery 6 2 2 



Dr Allen 4 6 4 4 Hess 1 5 



T Thompson. .. 6 .. .. 9 6 9 Allen 4 



rockaway point rod and gun oltib. 

 Nov. 1%.— Members of the Rockaway Point Rod and Gun Club spent 

 nearly the whole day to-day, busily engaged smashing targets at their 

 grounds at Rockaway Park. Schorty and Wash inade'the best records, 

 the latter leading by 6 breaks more than his opponent. Scores: 



Events: 1 3 3 4 5 6 7 8 HOU 



Targets: 35 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 5 %5 20 



L H Schortemeier 21 7 7 10 5 6 5 .. 18 16 



C T WaBh 20 6 7 7 . . 9 8 8 . . 19 17 



HPTessenden 15 



J Coleman 13 4 5 6 6 6 5 4 1 12 . , 



P L Steinbrucker 12 2 3 6 . . 3 4 4 2 11 . . 



J C Fleming 9 



E Bourke 9 5.... 5 4 8.. 



H Meyer 3 



CGlier 3 



PL Baetz 2 



NORTH SIDE GUN CU D 



Nov. IS —Six members of the North Side Gun Club took part in that 

 club's regular monthly badge shoot tias afternoon The shoot is at 

 7 live birds per man, club handicap rise, modified Hurlingham rules 

 governing. Harry Meyer, the winner of last season's club champion- 

 ship badge, was the oily one to kill his 7 bird*, thus winning a heat 

 for this season's badge wi'hout a shoot off. Events Nos. 1 and 2 were 

 miss-and-outs, the Meyer brothers cutting up both of them. Scores: 

 No. 1. No. 2. No. 3. 



H Heyer (28) 2222222-7 



O M Meyer (28) 1020183—6 122-3 222-3 



JN Meyer (28) 1211020-5 121-3 222-3 



JH Jennings (28) , 0010221-4 210-2 220 -2 



LOtten(25) '12000-3 120- 2 220—2 



M M Manning (30) 0200000— 1 



Marash(25) 0—0 



BERGEN GUN CLUB, 



Nov. 12— The opening shoot of the Bergen Guu Club for the season 

 1895-96 took place this afternoon at the grounds at Flatlands Neck. 

 The attendance was very good, eleven members taking part in the 

 club shoot, which is at 7 live birds, club handicap rise, A. S, A. rule 

 governing. The birds were a good lot and were aided by a strong 

 wind. John B. Purdy, whose handicap is 26yds., was the only one to 

 kill all his birds, winning the diamond badge without a shoot-off. In 

 the miss-and-out sweeps which followed the club shoot, Rynhart, 

 Richards, Murray and Valentine took the largest share of the pots. 

 Score of the club shoot: 



J B Purdy (26) 2222222 -7 H E Reynolds (28) 22.2201-5 



P J Rynhart (28) ..1022222-6 CHWebb (26). 22202.2-5 



W Hooper (28) .221122-6 H Richards (26) .120222— G 



P H Murray (27) 2222201-6 C Morgan (25) 02210.2-4 



R J Valentine (28) 2010222-5 O H Keefer (25) 02..021— 3 



A J Harvey (28) 0022221-5 



PARKWAY ROD AND GUN CLUB. 



Nov. IS.— The Parkway Rod and Gun Club held its regular monthly 

 shoot this afternoon, 8 members being in attendance. The wind 

 helped the birds so materially that there was not a straight score, no 

 less than 5 out of the 8 contestants tieing for the badge on 6 kills. 

 Ties were shot off at 3 birds, then miss-and-out. Bookman, who was 

 in the tie, withdrew without shooting his tie birds. Iu the end 

 Andrews, a Class C man with a handicap of 25yds., carried off the 

 badge with 4 straight kills. A 3-bird sweep, $1 entrance, brought the 

 afternoon's sport to a close, Bennett winning the pot by killing his 3 

 birds. Scores: 



No. 1, club shoot: Ties: No. 2: 



A Andrews (25) 1221021—6 2212 - 4 012-3 



EHelgans(28) 22.2222 - 6 2220 -3 101—2 



A Bothy (80) 2022212 -6 2220 -3 010—1 



H Bramwell (25) 2122220-6 10 w— 1 .01—1 



H J Bookman (28) 22.2211- 6 w 



T Short (28) 102.211-5 



J Bennett (28) 1020102—4 .... 222—3 



H J Sclover (25) 0120100-3 



UNKNOWN GUN CLUB. 



Nov. 14.— The Unknown Gun Club's monthly shoot was held this 

 afternoon, nine members competing in the club contest. This com- 

 petition is at 7 live birds, club handicap rise, the scores counting for 

 the club championship at the end of the season. A sweepstake in con- 

 nection with this event serves to keep up the interest of the shooters. 

 Moses Brown won first money alone with a straight run of 7 kills; 

 second money went to Vroome, Voorhies and Knebel, Von Staden 

 taking third money alone with 5 out of 7. Of the nine shooters present 

 two of the number were over 70 years of age, while five others were 

 past the 60 years mark. The scores were as follows: 



Moses Brown (28) 2221121—7 Richard Smith (25) 0121010-4 



E A Vroome (28 J 0111211-6 W J Skidmore (25) 1010110—4 



J B Voorhies (26) 2211110-6 John Akhurst (24) 0020112—4 



Henry Knebel, sr (26). . .1111101—6 A C Rankin (23> 2002011—4 



Henfy von Staden (26). ,1201101— 5 



IDLTC HOUR GUN CLUB. 



Nov. 18.— Eight members of the Idle Hour Gun Club took part in the 

 club's regular shoot. The club event is at 7 live birds, 28yds. rise. 

 The following were the scores: 



Helmstead 6, Wilsheimer 5. Landiford 4, Bauman, Vremeister and 

 Schroeder 2, Lambert 1, Hoffman 0. 



Helmstead won the first medal, Wilsheimer second medal, and Lan- 

 diford third medal. 



Carteret Gun Club. 



Wednesday, Nov. 13, was a special sweepstakes day at the Carteret 

 Club's grounds, Bayonne, N. J. The programme consisted of three 

 events: No. 1, 10 birds, optional sweep of $10 or $5; No. 2, 5 pairs, 

 $10, and 5 birds $5, club handicap and allowance. Although the 

 weather was all that could be desired, the attendance was light, 

 mainly owing to the absence of so many members of the club, who 

 are away from the city on hunting trips. 



The birds were an excellent lot of quick, strong flyers; just such a 

 class of birds as Phil Lumbreyer, the club's superintendent, always has 

 on hand nowdays whenever there's any shooting at Carteret The 

 change in the quality of the birds provided at the club's shoots of 

 recent date is remarkable, when one compares them with the class of 

 birds trapped there one year &eo. Aided as they were on the above 

 date by a iairly strong northeast wind, the birds were calculated to 

 beat anybody; the scores, therefore, are by no means as bad as they 

 look, while Yale Dolan's recoi d of 27 out of 28 from the 30vds. mark will 

 compare very favorably with any score on a similar class of birds. 

 Seaver Page dropped in late, but made his mark in the first sweep he 

 shot in, and was doing excellent work in the next, No. 4, until his gun 

 broke down. His lost bird in that event, however, was not the fault of 

 the gun; it was just one of those cases where a second barrel could 

 have been used with telling effect, but— wasn't. 



W. H. Mead, the secretary of the club, was the victim of a bad head- 

 ache, and failed in the maj irity of instances in the first; sweep to place 

 his load of shot anywhere near his birds. Usually Mr. Mead is a dan- 

 gerous man in a handicap event, but on this occasion his physical 

 condition outweighed his allowance and handicapped him too severely. 

 Chapin, from the 30yds. mark, killed 17 out of 21, and it should be 

 added that of the birds he missed none were easy ones; his lost bird in 

 event No. 1 was perhaps an exception, and could have been scored 

 with a little care. H G. Wright bunched his misses and came out 

 with a total of 19 out of 23; his weakness seemed to be an inability to 

 be careful when he drew an easy bird. On really fast birds, with no 

 poor ones in the crate, Wright would be no gift for anybody if he 

 stood at his handicap distance of 29yds. W S Edey shot well through- 

 out, but experienced some ill luck in event No. 1, having two of his 

 three cyphers scored to him on birds that fell dead just outside the 

 boundary; he scored altogether 25 out of 30, standing at the 29vds 

 mark, losing two dead out of bounds and making a bad niias on his'last 

 bird in event No. 6. Knapp killed 18 out of 22 from the 31yds mar*- 

 with one exception, his fifth bird in No. 1, all his lost birds were good 

 ones, and yet he did not seem to be shooting as he can shoot. He 

 appeared to be careless, too, when at the Hcore, henjliag himself as if 

 he did not care whether he killed or missed. George Gould baB had 

 little experience in trap-shooting, but he managed t > divide tLe drst 

 sweep he took part in. Dolan's work, as stated abuvj, was very go >d 

 killing his birds in good time and very cleanly. Hd ar ivert at ttie club 

 house just in time to enter the 10-bird race, and walhedaway withnVsc 

 money as a result of some good shooting, AH the aouve, remarks ap- 

 ply only to the single-bird sweeps, No. 2 teing at pairs 



In that event two birds were placed in each trap and only one trap 



pulled at a time; this is an improvement over the idea of pulling two 

 traps when shooting at pairs of live birds, as there is less likelihood of 

 Bitters to our way of thinking, while with fast birds it is hard enough 

 to make one's choice and kill one's birds in time to have them scored. 

 Dolan shot well in this event, but was somewhat favored by the birds; 

 he killed 7 out of 9, not scoring at the 10:h for reasons that follow: 

 Trie club rules do not call for both birds to be on the wing when 

 killed; it is only necessary that the bird killed shall be on the wing 

 when killed to be scored to the shooter. When No. 5 trap was pulled 

 for Dolan's last pair, he had only to kill one bird to win the sweep; both 

 birds proved to be sitters and had to be flushed in the usual manner — 

 with balls rolled along the ground; one rose and was promptly killed, 

 but the other refused to fly, although the club limit of five balls was 

 rolled to scare it up. As Dolan had already won by killing his first 

 bird, the referee, John S. Hoey, told him to kill the bird on the ground 

 to save time. 



Wright shot well in this event, and but for extremely hard luck on 

 his second pair would have given Dolan some trouble to take firar, 

 money. Edey also shot well, but should have killed his fourth pair; 

 bis first bird in his fifth pair fell dead just outside the club's grounds 

 after towering hi h in the air, the wind eventually carrying it over 

 the fencfl when it fell, Knapp started in badly, but finished strongly; 

 his 1st, 3d and 5th pairs were made up of some of the strongest birds 

 trapped during the afternoon. 



The way the traps fell to each man is given below; it will be noticed 

 that Nos. 1 and 5 were pulled below the average, No, 1 slightly, but 

 No, 5 deoidrdly so. Ihe traps were pulled 190 times during the six 

 events 88 being thus an average for each trap 1 1 be pulled: 



No. 1. No. 2. No. 3. No. 4. No. 5. Total. 



Chapin 6 6 7 6 1 26 



Wright 4 9 6 6 3 28 



Edey 6 12 4 7 6 35 



Mead 6 4 5 5 2 22 



Kna[p 5 5 6 7 4 27 



Dolan 5 8 6 9 5 33 



Page ..... 2 2 4 2 2 12 



Gould 1 3 11 1 7 



85 49 39 43 24 190 



The scores in detail, showing the flight of each bird, number of trap 

 and whether killed or missed, are given below. Nos. 1, 2 an i 3 were 

 the programme evmts; Nos, 4, 5 and 6 were $5 miss-and-outs. In the 

 first three events the money went to the two high guns, hence to keep 

 things moving, those with one miss and who had no allowance dropped 

 out at the close of the third round. The club boundary is 50yds., and 

 is marked by a small wire fence about 2ft. high. Scores: 



Trap score type— Copyright tsos, by Forest and Stream Publishing Co. 



No. 1 No. 8* 



4131238343 1144 33 33 44 



«-\ViH\W \s* N-S \\ ^s. 

 C A Chapin (30) 2 2 2 . 2 1 2 2 2 1— 9 . 11 1 -3 



5424322244 22 33 55 33 33 



i\-> , M-i\TT/ T w <VS $T \H 

 H G Wright (29) 1 22 22221 2— 9 11 •• 00 11 1 1-6 



1451324324 55 3 3 55 55 22 



WS Edey (29) 2 2 2 2 . 5j 2 1 • 0- 7 10 11 1 10 .1—6 



2351341413 44 44 3 3 33 22 



\\-t/T^/->T\ TT r+T \S H"* ^ 



W H Mead (28) . 2 20 .- 2 00 10 10 11 0-4 



4335445241 8 8 22 33 1144 



T ^-►"tV***- T T *^ \^ r»T \\ -V W - 

 J P Knapp (31) 2 02202222 2— 8 01 10 00 11 1 1—6 



1143244344 3 3 4455555 



„ „, ^\\\Tt"}>aT \\ <-v* k?V H 



HY Dolan (30) 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 2 2 2-10 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 —7 



* In No. 2 all stood at 25yds., no handicap. 



No. 3. No. 4. No, 5. No. 6. 



225 1 122 4421 



t,"}-\ ? <-T^ \->TT 



C A Chapin (30).. .0 1 1 —2 —0 1 1 2—3 2 2 2 —3 



1542" 4 2 1181322 



H G Wright (29). .2 2 2 • —3 —0 —0 2 2 2 2 2 2 2-7 



18425 25842 43 1 1142322 



WS Edey (29)..,. 2 2 2 2 2-5 2 2 2 2 2—5 2 2 0-2 2 1 2 2 2 2 0-6 



2 14 5 12 1 



WHMead(28)....l 8 1 • —3 110 —2 



545 21124 138 2 



J P Knapp (31). ...2 2 . —2 2 2 3 2 8-5 2 2 2-3 —0 



321 25124 252 1438234* 



H Y Dolan (30).. ..2 2 -2 1 2 2 1 1-5 1 1 2-3 1 2 1 1 1 1 1-7 



15441 35323 8 3 



•WtWf \\->->/ T «- 



J S Page (30) 2 2 2 1 1-5 1 1 1 1 .-4 —0 —0 



8 2 4 2 5 1 3 

 *Geo Gould (25) , . .2 1 2 1— 4 -0 —0 



* In No, 3, 27yds. and under, received allowance of one miss as a kill. 



Edward Banks. 



Cobweb Gun Club. 



New York, Nov. 14.— The Cobweb Gun Club held its monthly live 

 bird shoot to-day in rainy weather. Notwithstanding the bad condi- 

 tions, so far as comfort was concerned, twenty -two members put in an 

 appearance and shot for the three class medals. The scores below 

 show how the medals were distributed. 



Club shoot, 5 live birds, club handicap rise, ties shot off on 3 birds, 

 then miss-and-out: 



Class A (30yds. rise). 



*McKeon 11211-5 Odell 



Hoffman 11111—5 C Zahn 



Pilkington . . .2201 1 -4 Dickson , 



Train , 11201—4 Knapp 



Geeks 21021—4 Looinis 



Greiff 12220-4 Hendricks 



Ties: 



McKeon 22.2—3 Ho ff man 2200—2 



Class B (28yds. rise). 



* Jar vis 12022-4 Donnelly 21102—4 



Byrnes 22210—4 Kerker 10210—3 



Ties: 



Jarvis .......122-3 Donnelly 10 —1 



Byrnes 10 —1 



Class Z (26yds. rise). 



*Bage 20120-3 Magee 02010-2 



Nagle 10210—3 Goldie '.00022-2 



Curren 10100—2 Goehnour ' ' 00010— I 



Ties: 



Bage 121—3 Nagle. 020-1 



*P. P. McKeon won the medal in Class A, Frank Jarvis the Class B 

 medal, and A. Bage the medal in Class Z. F. A. Kerker, Sec'y. 



,21110-4 

 .11201-4 

 ,011.80-8 

 10201-3 

 0210 w 

 2100w 



Kirkpatrick Hardware Co.'s Tournament. 



We have received a programme of the tournament to be held at 

 Atlanta, Ga., Nov. 2?, 28, which is given by the Kirkpatrick Hardware 

 Co. of that city. Ttie tournament is indorsed by the Fulton Gun Club, 

 of Atlanta. The following extracts from the programme explain the 

 plan on which the tournament will be run: 



"Rules of the A. S. A. will govern this tournament, except 

 where they conflict with the special features adopted herein. Manu- 

 facturers' agents and those who receive their guns and ammunition 

 free and all known professionals will be barred from shooting for 

 purses. We will, however, be glad to see such persons who wish to 

 attend and show their goods. This is intended to be a strictly 

 amateur shoot, and no one but amateurs will be allowed to enter for 

 purses. 



'Shooters will shoot targets at known traps, unknown angles. Any 

 shooter who wins or divides first money must shoot in the next event 

 which he enters according to expert rules, which will be unknown 

 traps, known angles. If in this event he fails to win or divide any 

 part uf Lhe parse ne will fall baok to Known trap3, untcnown angles, 

 in the nexicvenc which he shoots in, and so conciuun to be graded 



•'All purses at this tournament will be divided 30, 25. 20, 15 and 10 

 per cent. ; price of birds will oe deducted from each purse and all ties 

 divide. 



• The referee's decision is final under all circumstances. Shooting 

 to commence promptly at f-:80 A. M. each day. Money will be re- 

 funded for all uncoutrsied eveuts. Urounds will be open for practice 

 shooting the morning of the 26th, Shooters are requested to make 



entry for the entire programme each day. If they wish to withdraw 

 from any event for which they have entered they may do so and their 

 money will be refunded, provided of course they do so before the 1 

 event commences." 



Among other particulars it may be noted that 10-gauge guns and 

 black powder are barred, as well as the professionals. A sole leather 

 gun case will be given each day to the Bhooter making the highest 

 average in that day's events. The programmes for each day are 

 identical: eight 154arget events, $2 entrance, and two 20-target events, 

 $3 entrance. The company adds $10 to every purse. Empire traps 

 and targets will be used, the traps being under the personal super- 

 vision of Chas C. Hebbard, of New York, who leaves to-day for At- 

 lanta to take charge of same. 



As an Amateur Sees it; 



Cincinnati.— Editor Forest and Stream; I am an amateur. I 

 make this statement at the start to inform you of my standing as a 

 trap-shooter and that you may the better understand my views in the 

 relation of amateur and professional, and the many lively questions; 

 theories, syBtems and what not which appertain to those interesting 

 personages. 



Speaking as an amateur myself, it seems to me that the amateur at 

 large is too constant and too clamorous in his demands for advantage, 

 thinking entirely of his own interests, asking for special concessions 

 that are more or less outside of the matter at issue in a trap contest- 

 that is to say, skill with the gun— and so areuing that one could easily 

 infer that great skill and ability militated against some vague and 

 vested right which the amateur possessed simply because he is an 

 amateur. 



Stated in simple English, he says: "I can't shoot so well as you can, 

 Mr. Expert, or Mr. Proft ssional. and I am too indolent to devote the 

 time and too thrifty to expend the money that you have expended in 

 obtaining skill and knowledge; therefore I wish you would devise some 

 system of handicapping yourself, so that, without going through the 

 rigorous schooling and great expense which were necessary in attain- 

 ing your skill, knowledge, etc., you will so oblige me that I can win 

 your money. Any system which does not make my awkwardness 

 equal to your skill is a failure, and I will continue to howl 'wolf and 

 'wolves' till I can get the prey myself, whereupon my cry of wolf will 

 ease " 



It is true that I am an amateur, but that is no reason why I should 

 be blind to all the principles of equity, or why I should be blind to 

 what constitutes real progress and improvement. 



The expert once made a beginning. He was an amateur. His prog- 

 ress was marked by enthusiasm, industry and diligent study of his 

 art. Energy overcame obstacles; disappointments stimulated greater 

 effort; success now and then inspired confidence and hope for greater 

 successes. 



The same course is open for the sluggish amateur to become an ex- 

 pert. Let him pursue the same course to attain his success. Begging 

 for favors at the hands of experts savors too much of a weak, cring- 

 ing and indolent spirit; ambition which is groveling instead of soar- 

 ing; a sordid eye for gain instead of a true spirit of sportsmanship and 

 not from a desire to compete and excel. The course of practice which 

 made the skill of the expert is open to the amateur to follow. He 

 asks for something before he has tried and before he is worthy. 



As to systems, it is my belief that none can be devised to put the 

 amateur and expert on a level, and it is my conviction that none 

 should be attempted. The skill of the expert will always surpass the 

 inefficiency of the amateur, for if he is inefficient in his shooting no 

 "system" will improve it. Moreover, any handicap which is imposed 

 on the expert and which relates to his skill, Buch as unknown angles 

 against known angles, will never avail, since the expert's skill is so 

 equal to all the varieties of shots which can be offered that his success 

 is diminished but little, while the amateur's untrained nerve will leave 

 breaks in his score regardless of the advantages conceded to him by 

 the handicap. 



So much for the question of skill. Now let us consider the injustioe 

 of handicapping by distance. In this way the skill of the shooter is 

 thrown out of consideration in part, and his gun is handicapped. He 

 is not only required to show greater personal skill, but his gun must 

 do greater aDd more difficult work than the gun of the amateur. He 

 is rt quired to show greater skill in his own person in the difficulty of 

 the shots, and the power of the gun is lessened inasmuch as it must 

 make longer shots. He is forced to give attention to every detail. 

 And all this— as a result of diligent effort, coming from a desire to 

 excel and from constant application and great expense as compared 

 to the spasmodic and temporary efforts of the amateur— results in 

 loud declaiming against the winning of the expert, which is really a 

 protest against the expert's success, and an admission of perpetual 

 inferiority. 



It is the more surprising to me that there i3 such a silent and spirit- 

 less acceptance of all thess arguments against the expert: first 

 because there is nothing which compels the amateur to compete with 

 the expert if he objects to do so, and second because the expert seems 

 to present his own side of the case improperly. The latter may know 

 how to shoot expertly and yet be wholly inefficient in presenting hia 

 side of the argument and in defending his rights. To me it seems as 

 if the plea of the amateur is a special plea, or rather a begging for 

 sometning more than rightly belongs to him. He admits his own 

 absence of skill and asks that he be given something for the sole 

 reason that he is incompetent. 



In all the affairs of business the man of skill reaps the reward of 

 the industry, research, knowledge and skill which come to him who 

 makes a success of a specialty. 



In the business world the competition is not so direct, but it is none 

 the less keen. No man with any sense in the business world would 

 plead his own inefficiency as a plea to handicap his superior. Every 

 one must stand on his own merit. 



As proficiency in the art is the ultimate aim and purpose of the com- 

 petiiion, if it is really a sport and not a mere means to juggle for 

 money, the sport should be so systematized on that basis. The man- 

 ner of developing the skill and educating the amateur should be para- 

 mount to the matter of dividing the purses. 



But do we read of competitions as educators? Are these competi- 

 tions for the love of the sport? -Are these "systems" for the benefit of 

 all concerned, for the sake of all concerned? I think not. It is this 

 and that for the benefit of the amateur— some complex artificial 

 arrangement to bolster up the shortcomings of the amateur, which 

 often is a term denoting incompetency against knowledge and skill. 



The real purpose of trap-shooting, which I trust I am not wrong in 

 assuming is a gentlemanly diversion, has been clouded and partially 

 smothered in a complexity of systems, no one of which is based on 

 the ^competition as a sport; but, on the contrary, all are based on 

 some way of splitting up the money. All this naturally prompts the 

 inquiry: What is trap-shooting for? Is it a sport for gentlemen or is 

 it a scramble for money? Are the benefits those of practice for real 

 work in the field, the pleasing emulation of competition to spur one to 

 his utmost endeavor, the improvements which come from efforts to 

 reach the higher standards of skill exhibited by some one else, or is it 

 a compromise by which all hope to keep all in a game which has a 

 basic principle on the matter of dollars and cents? 



To me, as an amateur, it seems all very simple. I shoot when I feel 

 like it, pay my money, and if I am beaten I submit to superior skill. 

 I have thus a standard to aspire to. I work harder and endeavor to 

 improve. When I am near men who are incomparably my superiors 

 1 stay out. If I "o into the competition and I am beaten, I admit that 

 I am beaten. I can go into training in private to beat the man who 

 beat me in public if . I think it worth while. There is no need that I 

 should come forward and, with thumb in mouth, plead the baby act in 

 public 



I write this as an amateur who asks nothing of no one or any one. 



Amateur. 



WESTERN TRAPS. 



TURKEY DAY TRAP. 



Chicago, III., Nov. 16.— The Eureka Gun Club, of Chicago, will hold 

 an all-day shoot on Thanksgiving Day at its grounds, 79th street and 

 Vincennes avenue. 



The Limited Gun Club, of Indianapolis, Ind., will hold an all-rlav 

 shoot on Thanksgiving Day. * 



The Anderson, Ind., Gun Club is making preparations for its tour- 

 nament to be held on Nov. 27 and 28. 



A trap-shooting contest of English sparrows, open to all. will talro 

 place at Indianapolis, Ind , Nov. 27. 



The Des Moines, la., Gun Club will hold its annual autumn tourna- 

 ment Nov. 26, 27 and 28. The management departs from the old 

 sweepstakes system and announces boldly that it will divide Durses 

 under the equitable system. Progress. 



MATCHES. 



George Deiter, of Milwaukee, defeated George Franklin in the 100- 

 hve-bird match for $100 a side, at Evanston, 86 to 85 The weather 

 was unfavorable for good shooting. At 30 birds Franklin led bv 4 

 and at 5u he was still in the lead by 2. The contestants tied at the 95th 

 bird. Franbhn missed 2 out of his last 5 birds and Deiter won the 

 match by killing 4 out of the last 5 



At Lincoln, 111., the contest for the gold medal offered by Bogardus 

 was won to-day by Gilbert, the Iowa champion. Tne ma tch bl. ween 

 Irwin and Bogardus was postponed until the Springfield tournament. 



VISITING. 



J A. R. Elliott, of Kansas City, is in Chicago. He is not looking for 

 matches, but visiting with the boys. He says all is lovely at K 



909 Security Building, Chicago. E " HouQH - 



