1*130. Tj 1895.J 



801 



Btmetion" as will be opened on Dec. J) in the casement of the 8th Regir 

 nient armory, Ninety-fifth street and Park avemie. With the advent 

 of a new regime in the Police Department the scheme bas matured, 

 aud now, with Sergt. W. E. Petty of, the police, force, who is probably 

 the best revolver snot id this country, in charge of the: school !of mt 

 sti'uction, patrolmen will have every opportunity of learning how to 

 shoot; The Sergeant, with a detail of four patrolmen, runs the whole 

 school and has the planning of the arrangements. . 

 i There are. four ranges for practice, so that it will be possible to 

 handle the men (Quickly, at the same time giving them needed advice, 

 such as. how to hold the. pistol, etc. As a matter of fact, patrolmen in 

 this city will now have to dma'tPy » s marksmen, just as uational 

 gnardsmen do. They will be required to shoot a string of 15 shots 

 under the following conditions: Off-hand, ,88oal. Smith & Wesson 

 revolver,, 30ft. range; the target will be like the army target, so that a 

 highest possible will be 75 points for the 15 shots. It will require a 

 score of from 45 to 55 to qualify. The target has a 4in. bull and is in 

 all 2t£ft. square. In firing the 35 shots the police will not be subject to 

 a time limit, the object being to give them instruction and to teach 

 them how to handle their guns, 



Sergeant Petty has mastered all the details necessary for keeping a 

 complete record of the scores; as the work progresses, It will be poa* 

 eible with a very small amount of figuring to note whether a man, of 

 whether a whole precinct, has improved or deteriorated in pistol 

 practice. Each man's score will be filed away in such a manner that 

 the authorities can lay their hands On it at once and satisfy themselves 

 fts. to the quality of the work he is doing. 



There is something very ingebioUs about the manner in which tile 

 targets themselves are fixed: They are stencilled oh stout manilla 

 pi' per and a number of them are rolled or a continuous strip around a 

 roller; this rollei is at the bottom of the space iu which the paper tar- 

 get will appear, and is protected from wi 'n shots by a piece of sheet 

 iron; the first target is unrolled and pas ' J upwa d and fastened to 

 another roll at the top of the target Space; this roll is protected from 

 wild shots in a mannfer similar to the lower one. A rope attachment 

 which passes tq the front of the range enables the attendent to roll 

 up' the target when the fifteen shots have been fired, at the same time 

 Bringing into view the next target. This idea is Sergeant Petty's own, 

 and he is to be complimented on its completeness. 



The shots are scored as made by the attendant in charge of the 

 range. The target outside of the bull is, of course, white, so that 

 each shot in that part can be readily sebn and Scored; the difticujlyof 

 seeing Just where a bullet strikes in the black is overborne by means 

 of a lariip with a reflector in rear of and below >the target; when a 

 bullet pierces the bull a gleam of light shines through the hole and be- 

 trays the whereabouts of the bullet-hole. 



Sergeant Petty seemed very confident that by the time all the 

 patrolmen had fired their first trial of fifteen shots he would be able 

 to pick out a team of revolver shots that would puzzle any team to 

 beat them. He seemed satisfied that there was a number of good 

 shots in the ranks of the patrolmen of this city, but saiu that the ma- 

 jority knew very little about the handling of their revolvers. This 

 fault, he said, the school of instruction was created to rectify, and It 

 would do it. 



As there is no appropriation for this work, the department is doing 

 it on its own hook 4 and naturally has to be very careful of every dol- 

 lar of expenditure. Sergeant Petty hopes by loading and reloading 

 all the ammunition used to reduce very largely the expense attached 

 to the school of instruction. The school has a big task ahead of it, 

 but there is absolutely no reason why it should not prove an entire 

 success On the contrary, having been started in the right manner 

 and with a capable staff, its future ought not to remain long in doubt. 



Ross and Martin Won the Match. 



Brooklyn, N. Y., Nov. 28— Champion F. C.Ross and Ignatz Mar- 

 tin, of this city, won their match to day with M. J. Dorrler and G. W. 

 Plaisted, both of New Jersey. The match was for $100 a side, 100 

 shots per man in series of 10, 200yds range, Zettler Rifle Club rules 

 governing, all four men being members of that club; Bernard Walther 

 was referee, Charles G Zatller scorer. The scene of the contest was 

 Banzer & Bookman's Cypress Hills Park. 



As the four contestants are among the crack riflemen of this part 

 of the country there was a good attendance of spectators to witness 

 the trial of skill This is the second time these four men have met in 

 a four-handed match; the first match was won by Ross and Martin by 

 89 points; to-day the difference was much less, only 15 points separat- 

 ing their totals at the end of the match. That the Brooklyn men won 

 at all is probably owing to Plaisted's unfortunate break in the fourth 

 series when he only scored 187, Ross was not up to his usual form, 

 but Martin kept things going and held up his end most successfully. 

 Dorrler did excellent work, and tried hard for victory; his best totals 

 werel 231, 229, 227, 225, 222 and 222, Ross's best were: 221, 222, 222 and 

 221; Martin scored a 223 and a 220, while Plaisted's best was a single 

 82S. 



The different stages of the match were as follows: At the end of 

 the first string of 10 shots New Jersey led by 14 points, having scored 

 435 to 422. In the next. 10 shots Brooklyn cut this lead down to 12 

 points, making 429 against 427. The third series saw a still further 

 reduction in the lead of the Jerseymen, the Brooklyn men scoring 483 

 against 48o. This left Dorrler and Plaisted only 9 points ahead, with 

 less than one-third of the match gone. In the fourth series, Plaisted, 

 as above stated, scored but 187, the Brooklyn men piling up 434 against 

 414, a gain of 20 points for them, this landing them in first place 

 with a total score "of 1718 against 1707—11 ahead. At the half- way 

 house the scores showed: Ros3 and Martin 2151 against 2181—17 

 ahead, a gain in the fifth series of 8 points. The sixth series was also 

 disastrous for the men from New Jersey, as their opponents gained 

 12 more points, scoring 441 against 429—29 ahead; 3 points was the 

 sum of the gain made by Ross and Martin in the seventh series— 44l 

 against 438, Dorrler and Planted each making 219. The total scores 

 were now 3033 against 3001—32 ahead. Still the Brooklynites marched 

 ahead, scoring 445 against 437 in the eighth series, their lead now 

 being exactly 40 points over their adversaries, with only 20 shots 

 each yet to fire. The totals stood: Ross and Martin 3478, Dorrler and 

 Plaisted 3438. 



The ninth series saw the New Jerseymen take a big brace; they cut 

 down their opponent's lecd exactly one-half, scoring 443 to 423, the 

 totals standing 3901 against 3881. The tenth and last series saw that 

 lead cut down by 5 more points, Dorrler and Plaisted scoring 440 

 against 485, the totals showing at the end of the match 4336 against 

 4321. It was a really tight finish all things considered. The scores: 



Ross 213 219 819 232 210 221 224 222 216 216-2188 



Martin 209 210 214 212 217 220 217 223 207 219-2148-4336 



Dorrler 221 216 229 227 22C 322 2] 9 225 216 231-2230 



Plaisted 215 211 .201 137 205 207 219 212 225 209 -2091-4321 



Revolver Shooting in England. 



The report for the year's shooting at the North London Rifle Club 

 is now published. It says: ''Upward of 6,000 entries have been made 

 during the season and the receipts are in every particular in excess of 

 any previous season. The policy of throwing open revolver shooting 

 to every member of the club, and of giving allowances to the less 

 expert shots, has had the effect of inducing many members to try 

 their skill with that weapon. Your committee will recommend next 

 year classification instead of handicapping. The scjre made by Mr. 

 Winans for the championship is simply marvelous, showing that his 

 hand has lost none of its cunning, and though winning by a large 

 margin, yet his runners up have shown good form. Winners of revol- 

 ver spoons: Winans 20, Knapp 15, B. Comber and Munday 14 each, 

 Carter 13, Earle. Luff and Riehatdson 12 each, A. J. Comber 11, Chitty 

 10, Howe and Howard 7 each, Evans and Gould 6 each, Bashtord, 

 Olementi-Smith, Denyer and Franzniann 5 each, Allman, Frost, Mac- 

 donald and MaeCormaek 4 each, H. -J. Andrews Chicken, Clemence, 

 Digging, Garaud, Lowe and Treadwell 3 each, Andrews, Bax er, Brad- 

 ing, Britton. Glauville, Howell, Peters and Ricketts 2 each, Ather,ton, 

 Cowan, F. Evans Gill, Gibbons, Hare, Hore, Jones, Skilton, Stillibrass, 

 Tillie, Varley, Ward and Heath 1 each. Total 262. 



"Best range scores and total, 1895, revolver.- 



"Series l v 20yds., stationary target: Mr. W. Winans 42/.;' ints 

 (highest possible), six times; Major Palmer once. 



"Series 2, 20yds alternate hands: Lieut. Chitty, and Messrs." pp 

 and Winans, 11 points, each once. 



"Series 3, 20yds , disappearing target: Mr. W. Winans 42. fbfgjbest 

 possible) once. 



"Series 4, 59yds : Mr. Winans 39 pDints. " 



Turtle Bay Rifle Club. 



New York, Nov. 24.— The second outdoDr snoot of the Turtle Bay 

 Rifle Club took place to-day at Woodside, L J , the following scores 

 being made: 



25 riDg target, 100 shots per man, 22 cal. rifle, 125ft. range: 



IT Walter 221 220 197 216 206 202 215 194 210 223-2104 



HE Jantzer 216 227 224 196 213 216 208 198 200 197—2095 



O G Fuehs 204 192 214 184 206 188 214 176 187 202—1967 



CH Plate 199 196 205 215 187 201 2u8 167 179 169-1926 



Harry Jantzer 196 197 19 J 204 110 200 200 160 170 168—1884 



A special 30-sh >t match for the club medal was won by H, Walter, 

 who scored 039, the scores being as follows - 



R Waiter 210 223 206-639 O G Fuchs 185 202 190-677 



J Ochs Jr '-'14 197 210-621 H Plate 170 178 180-547 



Li B Jantzer -00 201 211—612 Harry Jantzer 179 176 192—547 



J. Ocas, Jit., Sec'y. 



air. William iiyman in Europe. 



. Berlin, fSchSneberg, Nov. 20-— Mr. William Lyrhan Is at present so - 

 jpurmog ia Berlin for, the purpose of acquainting the German gun- 

 makers and dealers with his well-known rifle sights. He brings one of 

 the new ,25cal. Winchester takerdown rifles, and intends,, to demon- 

 strate this beautiful and useful weapon to the German Emperor, who 

 is one of the best and most passionate rifle shots in Europe. Mr. Ly- 

 man has made a business ,trip through England, France and Belgium, 

 an4, expels to visit Suhl and other gunmaking centers before his 

 return home. ,-. ji 



He is very favorably impressed; with the progressive spirit prevail- 

 ing throughout Germany, and especially with the remarkable growth 

 of Berlin, which city he has not seen for a period of six years. 



Arm in Tenner. 



If you want yo.ur shoot to be announced here 

 send In notice like th e foll owing: 



FIXTURES. 



Dec. 7.— HoLtfESBtrRG Junction, Pa.— Team race, 25 men to a team, 

 between All-Philadelphia and the Delaware State League; all day 

 shoot on the grounds of the Keystone Shooting League. 



Dee. 12-13.— Lancaster, Pa.— Tournament of the Fairview Gun Club; 

 first day; targets; second day, live birds. 



Dec. 19, 20.— ELiisAUETfi, N. J.— Fifth bi-monthiy tournament of the 

 Elizabeth Gun Club) first day, targets; second day, live birds. 



1896: 



Jan. 1,— Newark, N. 3— Fifteenth annual New Year's Day reception 

 and tournatnent of the South Side Gun Club, targets. Shooting com- 

 mences at 9:30 A. M. W. R. Hooart, Sec'y. 



Jan. 4 — Wilminotom. Del.— Second team race between Ail-Philadei 

 phiaand the Delaware State League, 25 men to a team; all day snoot 

 on: the grounds.of the Wilmington Rod and Gun Club: 



Jan. 4-5— Phoenix, Ariz —Annual tournament of the Arizona State 

 Sportsmen's Association.) 



Jan. 7-41.— San Antonio, Texas— Grand mid-winter tournament, 

 under the auspices of Texas State Sportsmen's Association and man- 

 agement of J, M. George and O. C. Guessaz (Texas Field), $2,000 added , 



Feb 1 .—Third team race between All-Philadelphia 



and the Delaware State League, 26 men to a team. (Place of shoot 

 not fixed ) 



April 1-3— New York.— Interstate Association's Fourth Annual 

 Grand American Handicap. 



April 14-17.— Atchison, Kansas.— Thirteenth annual open to all, and 

 second annual manufacturer's amateur tournament; $1000 added 

 money and manufacturers' prizes. Lou Erhardt, Sec'y. 



April 22-24.— Wellington, Mass.— Tournament of the Boston Shoot- 

 ing Association; targets. P. R. Dickey, Manager. 



April 30-May 2.— Newburgh, N. Y.— Annual spring tournament of 

 the West Newburgh Gun and Rifle Association; targets and live birds; 

 added money announced later. 



May 5-8.— New \ ore. —Tournament of the American E. C. Powder 

 Company ; $2,000 added money. 



May 12-15 — Memphis, Tenn. — Tournament of the Memphis 

 Gun Club, $2,000 added money. 



May 12 14 — Davton, O —Annual tournament of the Ohio Trap- 

 Shooters' League. Ed. Taylor, Sec'y. 



May 19 22.— Cincinnati, O.— Tournament of the Hazard Powder Co. 

 R. S. Waddell, Agent. 



May 20-24. — Kansas City, Mo. — Nineteenth annual convention and 

 tournament of the Missouri Stale Fish and Game Protective Associa- 

 tion. J H. Durkee, Sec'y. 



May 26-28.— Frankfort, Kan.— Annual tournament of the Kansas 

 State Sportsmen's Association. 



May 30-June 1 —Milwaukee, Wis— Eleventh annual tournament of 

 the South Side Gun Club. 



June 1-6.— Chicago, III.— Twenty-sec md annual tournament of the 

 Illinois State Sportsmen's Association. H. B. Meyers, Sec'y. 



June 8-13 —Buffalo, N. Y.— Thirty eighth annual tournament of 

 the New York State Association for the Protection of Fish and Game, 

 under the auspices of the Audubon Gun Club. E. W. Smith, Sec'y. 



June 17-19— Cleveland, O.— Third annual tournament of the Cham- 

 berlin Cartridge and Target Company, 



July 30, 31. — Goshen, Ind — Midspmmer tournament of the Goshen 

 Gun Club. 



Oct. 7-9.— Newburgh, N. Y.— Annual fall tournament of the West 

 Newburgh Gun and Rifle Association; targets and live birds; added 

 money announced later. 



DRIVERS AND TWISTERS. 



Club secretaries are invited to send their scores for publication in 

 these columns, also any news notes they may care to have printed. 

 Ties in all events are considered as divided unless otherwise reported. 

 Mail all such matter to Forest and Stream Publishing Company, SIS 

 Broadway, New YorTi. 



When that heavy gale struck Detroit, Mich,, the beginning of last 

 week, it very nearly put an end to Jack Parker's duck shooting, and 

 to the career of the lolanthe. The following clipping from the Detroit 

 Free Press tells the story: "Jack Parker, the well-known sportsman 

 who lives on Junction avenue, had an experience early yesterday 

 morning he will not soon forget. He was out on his fall crusade 

 against the migratory ducks and had gone down below the mouth of 

 the river in his boat. He bad a large flat-bottomed schooner with a 

 commodious cabin on it and was occupying it with two men and a 

 boy. The day's shooting had been good, owing to the storm driving 

 the ducks in, and they had about 250 wildfowl in the boat, together 

 with 135 decoys they had taken aboard for the night and five duck 

 boats tied to the schooner or on her cabin. The boat was anchored 

 and about 4 o'clock she parted her chain and nothing could stop her 

 in the drifting match. The wind and current sent her across the lake 

 and she finally ran high and dry on shore near Amherstberg. The 

 ducks, decoys and duck boats were lost, and water poured in through 

 the windows, which were dashed out by things falling against them. 

 Parker came home last evening and says he never had a worse experi- 

 ence—not excepting the time when he was caught out in the moving 

 ice a couple of years ago. He saved the schooner and the guns, but 

 says he would have considered himself lucky to get away with his 

 life." 



The programme for the tournament of the Fairview Gun Club, of 

 Lancaster, Pa., is to hand. The first day's programme is confined to 

 target events; the list of events is as follows: No. 1, 10 targets, $1; 

 No. 2. 15 targets, $1,50; No. 3, 25 targets, $2.50; No. 4, 20 targets, $2; 

 No. 5, 10 targets, $1; No. 6, 30 targets, $3; No. 7, 20 targets, $2; No. 8, 

 15 targets, $1.50; No. 9, 7 targets, $1; No. 10, 20 targets, 32; the total 

 is 172 targets with an entrance of $18. Targets will be charged for at 

 the rate of two cents each; under 12 entries, 3 moneys; over 12, 4 

 moneys. The second day's programme contains 5 live-bird events: 

 No. 1, 10 birds, $5; No. 2, same; No. 3, 15 birds, .$10, No. 4, 7 oirds, $4; 

 No. 5, $1 miss and out. No. 1 commences at 9 A. M. sharp, and is 

 open to amateurs of Lancaster county only. There will be three 

 three moneys in events 1, 2 and 4; No. 3 will be dividsd into four 

 moneys; birds extra. The management reserves the right to alter the 

 programme on the first day, and on the second diy it reserves the 

 right to handicap any shooter. Messrs. A. H. Hershey, J. B. Kready 

 and L. A. Brenner compose the tournament committee. 



A special car will be chartered to carry Northern shooters from this 

 city to the midwinter shoot at San Antonio, Texas, Jan 7-11. Those 

 already booked are: Noel E. Money, Ferd. Van Dyke, Fred Quimby, 

 T. H. Keller, Neaf Apgar, C. E. Willard. J. A. R. Elliott and O. R, 

 Dickey. The car will go via Washington, Atlanta and New Orleans. 

 At Atlanta B. H. Worthen, of Charleston, S. C, will join the party, 

 while Colonel Anthony is expected to step on boara at Charlotte, 

 N C. Philadelphia, Baltimore and Washington may also be expected 

 to furnish a shooter or two, as a low rate has been secured tor the 

 round trip. The car leaves New York on New Year's Day. Any 

 shooter who desires -further information, or who intends joining the 

 party, should address T. H. Keller, Box 92, New Yori. 



George Mosher and his Hollenbeck gun are coming to this city to 

 take Keller's scalp in a live-bird match. Some time ago these two 

 men shot a race at live birds for the price of the birds, Keller winning; 

 on that occasion Mosher had to borrow a gun and shells. Ever since 

 that time George has been quiet, merely biding his time— which has 

 come. Last week Harvey McMurchy was in New York and he went 

 back to Syracuse, N. Y., carrying Keller's gun along with him, as ic 

 nee;'ifa gome little work at the factory. Mosher, who also of course 

 lives at Syracuse, heard of the arrival of McMurchy and that gun; he 

 at once notified his opponent that he was coming to New "Sork for 

 revenge. Tom's hustling for a gun now. 



Charlie Hebbard arrived in this city from Atlanta, Ga , on Monday 

 Ihsd. He was brimful of Exposition talk, and of the manner in 

 which Guy Mitchell, of the Kirkpatrick Hardware Company, managed 



the shoot. That the company was well satisfied with Hebbard's worS 

 may be judged from the following extract froth a personal letter front 

 the Kirkpatrick Company to W. Fred Quimby: "We regret very mticn 

 that you could not have been with us auring the shoot. It was fairly 

 successful, not as good a crowd as we expected. The targets and 

 traps, under the very efficient management of Mr. Hebbard, were al 

 that we could expect and gave universal satisfaction." 



The South Side's fifteenth annual New Year's tournament is one of 

 the new announcements in our "Fixtures" column this week. The South 

 SideC 

 ings t__ 

 New*Ve... . 



ises to make the coming tournament one of the most successful ever 

 given by the club; he has the club back of him too, so that Billy s 

 promises ma? be looked upon as certainties. Shooters in the vicinity 

 of New York should not forget the fifteenth annual of the South Side 

 Club; it wiil be worth attending. 



At the sixteenth contest for the president's cup at the Carteret Club, 

 shot on Nov. 20, there were only five shooters present, A heat for 

 the cup was won by W. H. Mead, the club's secretary, who now has 

 two wins to his credit. The scores were: Mead 19, George Work 18, 

 J. Seaver Page 17, J. P. Knapp and W. H. Stafford each 12 out of 15. 

 The wins stand now: Knapp and L. T. Duryea 4 each, Work 3, Mead 

 2, Seaver Page, Fred Hoey and W. H. Stafford 1 each. The cup, 

 which by the way is a Purdy gun to be made to order, must be won 

 five times before becoming the property of an individual. 



Jim Elliott is in the city ones more, and promises to spend the win' 

 terwithus. Jim's headquarters while iu the East are, of course, at 

 the Winchester Repeating Arms Company's store, 312 Broadway. 

 Although Elliott might like to get on a match or two while with us, it 

 Is hardly worth while figuring on such a possibility, as one cannot see 

 who would want to slack up against him. Brewer is out of the ques- 

 tion, as Jim will not meet him, and for good reasons too. We shall, 

 no doubt, often meat Elliott at sweepstake shoots in the vicinity of 

 New York. At all such shoots Jim is always welcome. He is a great 

 favorite in this section of the East. 



While en route tor Long Branch. N. 3 , on Thanksgiving Bay, on the 

 9:10 train for Jersey City over the N. Y. & Long Branch K R., we 

 could readily see t lies main ciuse for the scarcity of game In New 

 Jer: ey. Scarcely a field that was rough enough to hide a field mouse 

 was without its hunter and yellow dog. R»turniog tbe same way 

 after sundown .we no. iced two bags of game, the one a solitary hunter 

 with two rabbits; 'He other, two men with the following varied bag: 

 Four rabbits, three tame pigeons and a "fly-up-the-creefe." Scborte- 

 meier diagnosed this bag as "a regular sauerkraut bag." 



At the date of this writing Ferd Van Dyke is deep in the, wilds o. 

 Fulton county, Pa., a guest of a hunting club composed of members 

 of the Altoona Gun Club . It is safe to predict that before his return 

 he will have been made intimately, acquainted with Pennsylvania 

 ruffed grouse and venison, and with Killits and Kotty to teach him, 

 will have become an adept at the bear dance around the camp-fire. 



There are few places better adapted for holding live bird or target 

 tournaments than Elkwood Park. The inclosure between the tracks 

 is all that could be desired for either kind of sport, while the grounds 

 themselves are supplied with up-to-date fixtures. Blackbird shoots 

 next fall will be a specialty at this place, live blackbirds being readily 

 obtained, owing to the immense flocks that roost in the marshes along 

 the Shrewsbury River. 



Harvey McMurchy was in the city last week and put in Thanksgiving 

 Day at Elkwood Park. Harvey was in good form, breaking 95 out of 

 100 targets, and 15 straight at live birds in a sweep shot after a good 

 regulation turkey dinner had been served. In talking about the 

 championship event at the E. C. tournament next May, McMurchy 

 said that he was satisfied to hail as champion the man who made the 

 highest score in the 400 targets, thrown as suggested by Forest and 

 Stream. 



On Nov. 29 Capt. A. H. Bogardus defeated W. T. Irwin, of Peoria. 

 111., in the third match of the series between these two shooters. The 

 contest took place at Springfield, 111 , Bogardus winning by 47 to 44. 

 Of the three matches Bogardus won two, the C»ptain thus winning 

 the rubber. Bogardus's rules— a 10yds. circle around the trap and 

 each bird to be killed outside the circle or a lost bird to be scored, gun 

 below the elbow, 15yds. rise, use of one barrel only -governed the 

 contest. 



After we left the Carteret Club's grounds on Wednesday afternoon, 

 Nov. 27. a few more sweeps were indulged in with the "light of 

 moon" to shoot by. Notwithstanding the uncertain light, both MeAl- 

 pin and Wright kept up their good work, each killing 12 straight in the 

 four mifs-and-outs. These figures should be added to those given in 

 another column, making : McAlpin's scire for the afternoon 44 out of 

 46, and Wright's score 52 out of 55, three dead out of bounds. 



Thanksgiving Day in the East was a perfect day for the purposes of 

 trap-shooting; it was particularly favorable for target-shooting, a 

 litt le more wind being desirable perhap3 when it comes to live birds. 

 All the club shoots in this vicinity were well attended, but the open 

 shoots once more demonstrated forcibly the fact that holidays are as 

 a rule poor days to choose for giving open shoots. 



Another addition to the shooting fraternity of New York city is" 

 Bill Clark, late of Altoona, Pa., who has come, with hiB lares ana 

 X>enates, to the Empire City, and taken a flat in the immediate neigh- 

 borhood of Goatviile. Bill's defection will bB a sad loss to the Al- 

 toona Gun Club, but the shooters of this section will gladly welcome 

 him among them. What is Altoona's loss is our gain. 



Neaf Apgar, Capt. Cramer and Jake Blenderman have just returned 

 from a hunting trip in North Carolina. They bad a most successful 

 hunt and foiind plenty of game to interest them, quail and turkeys 

 being their principal meat. Blenderman, however, was lucky enough 

 to get a chance at an 18-months-old buck; be made good use of his 

 chance, the deer falling to his gun. They were located at Lewiston . 

 N. O. 



The amateur championship will be shot on the grounds on the West- 

 minster Kennel Club early in January. The shoot is at 100 live birds 

 per man, S100 entrance, §25 forfeit. There are twelve entries up to 

 date, so that a good shoot is assured, while good birds are a certainty, 

 as the event is to be shot on the above grounds, where Superintendent 

 Mott always has good and fast birds. 



The Endeavor Gun Club's Thanksgiving Day shoot was a good one 

 aDd was highly satisfactory to the management. The fact that the 

 home club were beaten once more by the Union Gun Club, of Spring- 

 field, N. J , does not bother Secretary Creveling at all, 



The programme for the coming season at Monte Carlo will be 

 studied with interest. It will be found elsewhere in these columns. 



The Boston Shooting Association claims April 22-24, 1896, as the 

 dates for its annual spring tournament. 



Edward Banks. 



In Favor of the .Straight-Out System. 



Binc-hamton, N. Y,, Dec. 2.— Editor Forest and Stream; While dis- 

 cussing the question of handicaps and divisions of purses at tourna- 

 ments, we would like to ask what objections have ever been raised to 

 the "straight-out syste it" with which most shooters are somewhat 

 familiar. We have not tried it here, but we saw it used at the Sher- 

 burne shoot last summer, and everybody present was more than 

 pleased with it. It is certainly most simple; nothing can be more 

 easily figured unless it be class shooting. I would send you an ex- 

 ample, but am sure you are entirely familiar with the system. It Ab- 

 solutely does away with the worst evil in;trap-shooting— dropping for 

 place. With that one thing corrected what else have we to do in order to 

 place the sport above reproach? There are plenty of amateurs in this 

 country who are re«dy to gamble that they can break 12 out of 15, 

 which would let them iu for part of the money, but they know that 

 the more skillful ones, under class shooting, can manage to get 

 nearly all the money. I would like to know of one single objection to 

 this system. H. W. Brown. 



The above communication' from Mr. Brown, who is well known to 

 the trap-shooters of this State, is just the sort of letter we like to re- 

 ceive. It is the letter pre-eminently of a sportsman, and not of one 

 who attends tournaments for the sake of "the money there is in it." 



The "straight-out" system which Mr. Brown advocates is precisely 

 the same as the Rosa system, to which we referred in our issue of 

 Nov. 16. Some eight months ago, before we were aware that Mr. 

 Rose had placed his system before the public on his score sheets, we 

 received a suggestion troni a New England shooter, who was also un- 

 aware of the existence of the Rose system, urging the claims of a 

 system which we then called "straight-out" from the fact that it paid 

 a man better to shoot out straight than to drop for a place. On our 

 publishing the system and its workings in Forest and Stream, we 

 received from Mr. Rose some of his score sheets showing that he 

 had elaborated the system aud had had it in working order in Colorado 

 for a year or two. We presume this is the "straight-out" system re- 

 ferred to by Mr. Brown, 



If there seems to be any need of further examples of the working of 

 this excellent system, Forest and Stream will be only too glaa to 

 open Us columus for that purpose. As Mr. Brown says: The system 

 absolutely does away with ail dropping for x'lace. one of the very 

 worst features of the trap shooting of to-day. It also pays a man 

 according to his work; another feature that ik worth something. The 

 last sentence of the above letter is one that we would like to see 

 answered: 'T would like to know of one single objection to this sys- 

 tem?" Who can enlighten us on this point? 



