April 5, 1888.] 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



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IMPROPER USE OF A PREFIX. 



Editoi' Forest and Stream: 



In Forest and Steeam for March 22, under "Names 

 Claimed," was a claim for the name Ilford Sohrab. In the 

 February issue of the American Kennel Register was an 

 entry of Ilford Rex. Both of the dogs were from the same 

 breeder — being, in fact, litter brothers. As a mastiff breeder 

 I feel compelled to enter a protest against the use of the pre 

 fix ''Ilford" in such a case as this. There is no doubt that 

 the party using it bas no idea of any impropriety in so doing, 

 but there is more than impropriety, as it is apt to be mis- 

 leading. 



In England the prefix Ilford is the registered property of 

 Mr. Richard Cook, and can only be used in that country for 

 dogs of his breeding and ownership, and therefore, as Mr. 

 Cook has sent, and probably will continue to send, many 

 mastiffs to this country, it certainly is an act of discourtesy, 

 whether intentional or not, for any one in this country to 

 use what is practically equivalent to a trade-mark. 



If the American Kennel Club acted up to its pretensions, 

 this is merely one of the many things that require oflici a', 

 action, and that it neglects. In the absence of any rules it 

 appears to me that reputable kennel papers, and 'particu- 

 larly the American Rennet Register^ should refuse to 

 admit to their pages any form of nomenclature that is apt 

 to mislead. A very large proportion of the breeders of 

 England, and many in this country, either use the name of 

 their kennel or their place of residence as a prefix or suffix. 

 This custom is an admirable oue, as it enables a breeder to 

 know at once from whence a given dog came, and as most 

 pedigrees of valuable dogs trace back to England, the in- 

 discriminate use of English kennel names in this country 

 should be stopped before it becomes a serious evil. 



The only pretext that can be adduced for the use of the 

 Ilford prefix with the two dogs above referred to is the fact 

 that the grandsire on the dam's side was Ilford Cromwell. 

 One of the rules governing registration in the A.K. R. is as 

 follows: 



"No name will be registered of a nature to mislead, such 

 as Gladstone II., or Gladstone, Jr., for a setter not a descend- 

 ant of that well known dog." 



In the cases above referred to only one-sixth of the blood 

 comes from Ilford. The preponderating blood is purely 

 "local" and therefore the word "misleading" is equally ap- 

 propos in this case, as in the rule just quoted. 



I liope the party making use of the prefix, above ref erred 

 to, will not take offense at what I have written regarding 

 his action, as none is intended. There are several methods 

 in use relating to canine nomenclature that should be reme- 

 died, of which the above case is a sample, and it is to be 

 hoped that it ever we get a decent organization in place of 

 the present moribund A. K. C. that such abuses will be 

 checked. Wacouta. 



St. Paul, Minn., March 26. 



THE CROWNING OUTRAGE. 



" Whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad." 

 Editor Forest and Stream: 



Trite the above certainly is, but is it not as true as ever-' 

 And does not the "American Kennel Club, sir!" demon- 

 strate to us, that the Gods have at last given it up? Many 

 have been the disgraces it has suffered and many the stu- 

 pidities it has enacted, but the disgraceful tyranny of the 

 expulsion of Mr. Watson was never before equalled; Beau- 

 fort— Patti was simply cowardly compliance with a demand 

 which the A. K. C. soon delivered itself from; "construc- 

 tion" was a still-born child of schemers; and general stu- 

 pidity is the natural fiuit of an association. But just con- 

 sider what the expulsiou of Mr. Watson was— for in plain 

 English, expulsion was the exact size of it. It was not al- 

 leged that Mr. Watson was objectionable, on grounds of per- 

 sonal conduct, that he was not fitted to associate with the 

 gentlemen of the A. K. C; that he was connected with any 

 improper acts, or that he was hostile to the club itself, his 

 fitness for a delegate is confessed by the A.K.C. which has ac- 



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its executive committee! Now I challenge auy man, not ac- 

 quainted with the facts, to imagine why such a man should be 

 or could be expelled; everyc mse is excluded from considera- 

 tion, and the inquirer is f.u-ced to give itupasuusolvable;tell 

 him that it was done as a balm to the wounded feelings of 

 the secretary of the club, and he will ask if you take him 

 for a fool: suggest as another reason, that the " fired" 



Earty did not approve of one branch of work that the club 

 ad undertaken, aud outside the club meetings, ridiculed 

 this work, and he will say: "On! I see; the purpose of the 

 club is this work, aud that is all it exists for." But tell 

 him that this work is only a subsidiary one, taken up long 

 after the delegate was elected, and he will scratch his head 

 and ask if Luna is the divinity of this club? Yet boil it 

 down, and has not the " American Kennel Club, sir!" laid 

 it down, that the stud book is the work of the club, and that 

 to oppose its sovereign behest in this, is treason most foui? 



Theu what is the precedent the A. K. C. established here? 

 Reasonably applied it just means, that it a delegate opposes 

 the decision of the majority, even outside its sacred clois- 

 ters, he may be expelled! What a pity this precious doc- 

 trine was not announced when Mr. Peshall dared kick at 

 the Beaufort— Patti M. business? Why was he not expelled 

 for differing from the majority? 



Why was Chas. Sumner allowed to remain in Congress 

 after daring to publicly denounce the fugitive slave, law? 

 Why was Lamar still honored, after presenting the instruc- 

 tions of the Legislature on the silver bill and announcing 

 that he would vote as his conscience and judgment dic- 

 tated? Why was Thad Stevens "Old Thad" to every man, 

 woman and child in his district, when he never bowed the 

 knee to anybody in anything? Simply because mankind 

 always have, and always will honor manliness. Will it be 

 said for one moment, that such a doctrine as expelling a 

 man for sticking to what he thinks is best, is encouragm* 

 manliness? Surely, the Gods not onlv afflict with madness 

 but with blindness when so manly a man as Mr. Peshall' 

 fathers such boot-licking slavery as this. 



To completely understand the situation, remember that 

 Mr. Watson's war on the stud book, and its editor, was 

 never carried on in the meetings of the A. K. C; there could 

 be no pretense^that he made himself obnoxious in meetings 

 by offensively presenting his objections to the rag baby of 

 the A. K. O, or in any way hindered its work when in 

 regular session, but he dared to make fun of the secretary 

 and oppose the official stud book of the A. K. C. in the 

 paper of which he was kennel editor. 



Then who is the A. K. Qj Whom does it represent f 

 Outside of the New Engiand, New Haven, New Jersey and 

 Philadelphia clubs I do not know one that fairlv repre- 

 sents any considerable body of dog owners in the district 

 it is supposed to represent. Of the organization of the W 

 K. C. I know nothing. All I do know is, that its metro- 

 politan location enables it to give the most paying show in 

 the country; I know nothing as to who compose the 

 Providence, Milwaukee or Detroit clubs, and therefore ex- 

 clude^hent from consideration. But of the other clubs is 

 there one that is not practically a club of one or two men ? Do 

 the doggy men of its bailiwick really belong to the club or 

 take any interest in it, or even know there is such a thing as the 

 A. K C. ? Then again, the A. K. C. is supposed to be a club of 

 dog show clubs. Well, when will Hartford or Providence 

 give another show? Will Detroit, St. Paul, Pittsburgh or 

 Milwaukee give one this year? So where is the represen- 

 tative character of the club? Take an instance; Mr. Col- 



lins is the Hartford Kennel Club (very good timber to 

 make a club of, too). He gets tired of the drag and pulls 

 out. Pete thinks he sees a chance, he rakes together the 

 embers of the club, gets himself appointed president and 

 delegate to the A. K. C, aud masquerades as a whole ken- 

 nel club, aud as such wields asniucb power in the A, K. C. 



way, 



as all the New Jersey or Philadelphia clubs. 



Then where is the A. K. C. ? Its office is 44 Broad 

 New York. The office of the Westminster Kennel Club is 

 also 44 Broadway. The office of Mr. Percy 0. Ohl, the 

 Thoroughbred Dog Exchange, is 44 Broadway, and the of- 

 fice of Mr. Thos. H. Terry, a member of the W. K. C. show 

 committee and a distinguished breeder of collies, is also 44 

 Broadway. All in two small dark rooms, are the offices of 

 the ruling light of American dog shows, lumped in with 

 one dog show, one dog dealer and one dog breeder, There 

 was a dog paper there until it died. Granted that 

 the dealer and breeder are of the best character, is 

 it to be supposed that all could be so long crowded together 

 in one room, doing their business side by side and not grow 

 together so that outsiders have but secondary considera- 

 tion? In plain English, haven't they already got to be a 

 riug? Somebody will ask (as Mr. Cugle asks "Porcupine") 

 "Why keep on hammering at these trifling failings of the 

 A. K. C? It is easy to find fault, the faults are but trivial 

 after all, many of them (such as 'construction') are old," 

 etc., etc. Why, just because the A. K. C. never improves, 

 it repeats every folly aud disgrace it ever perpetrated, and 

 it never punishes one wrong committed by anybody in its 

 ring. No greater' disgrace than "construction" was ever 

 perpetrated in doggy affairs, it was a deliberate attempt to 

 nullify the plaiu requirements of the law for private ends, 

 no defense of it was ever offered, yet right now. at the very 

 meeting that expelled Mr. Watson, the " constructor" ap- 

 pears as a delegate, without any protest, and I doubt not, 

 voted for the expulsion ! 



The earnest representations of Messrs. Morgan, Porter, 

 Greene, Niven, etc., that the exhibitor deserved protection at 

 the hands of the A. K. O, were treated with derision, and 

 nothiug but the lash, applied by "Porcupine," Mr. Mason, 

 Forest and Stueam, etc., has ever moved if one inch to- 

 ward right courses. Are we to constitute the pillory a 

 permanent instution iu American doggy affairs? W. WADE. 



Htoton, Pa. March 27. 



PROPOSED POINTER CLUB. 



Edit i n- Forest and Stream: 



Why cannot a pointer club be formed? The American 

 English Beagle Club have within the past few years accom- 

 plished great good in getting a uniform type* of the little 

 hound. I certainly see no objection in having a pointer club 

 for thesame. laudable purpose, viz., type. Can this be ac- 

 complished by any other means than measurements? I 

 should think this plan the best, as it works very nicely with 

 beagles. 



The Beagle, Collie, Mastiff, Fox-Terrier, St. Bernard and 

 Spaniel clubs are in a position to do lots of good, and some 

 of them have already shown very flattering results. As 

 many of our pointer Judges have widely differing opinions 

 regarding: the merits of pointers, it wouldseem an excellent 

 idea to follow the example of the Beagle, Spaniel and Collie 

 clubs, and have breeders of pointers to judge their favor- 

 ites. Let every pointer breeder, exhibitor or owner speak 

 up, and express his opinion and let us establish a pointer 

 club on about the same basis as other specialty clubs who 

 have, demonstrated their good deeds. 



I have tabulated the following table from Mr. G. Thorpe- 

 Bartram's excellent article on pointers in "British Dogs." 



It would have given me more pleasure to have had some 

 data relating to our specimens/such as Beaufort. Robert le 

 Diable, Fritz, Graphic, Donald, Tammany, Lad of Bow, 

 Bracket, Naso of Kippen, Nick of Naso, 'Bang-Bang, and 

 other well-known prize winners. 



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Length from nose to set- 

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Average length of tail 13 9-l8in. 



Average girth of chest 28 3-1 Sin. 



Average girth of 1 oin 21 6-1 8i n . 



Average girtli of head 15 12-18in. 



Average girth of forearm 8 l-18in. 



Average length of head from occiput 



to tip of nose 8 f6-18in. 



Average girth of muzzle midway 



between eyes and tip of nose 9 5-18in. 



Pointer breeders, exhibitors, owners and lovers of this dog, 

 express your ideas regarding the formation of a pointer 

 club. Let the same be formed "free for all" to join. With 

 the main point in view— type. Let some standard be 

 adopted and the dogs judged by it, A. C. Collins. 



Hartfoud, Conn. 



CINCINNATI BENCH SHOW.-Cincinnati, March 80. 

 On account of the large amount of work necessary to be done 

 by the printers in publishing the catalogue, exhibitors are 

 urgently requested to make their entries at as early a date 

 as possible, The club finds it necessary to give notice that 

 no entry will be accepted which does not reach the superin- 

 tendent before 5 P. M. April 17. The club has contracted 

 with the Spratts Patent (America) Limited, to bench and 

 feed the dogs. Many valuable special prizes have been offered. 

 Local sportsmen and the general public are taking great in- 

 terest in the matter and I "have no doubt whatever that the. 

 exhibition will prove a great success. The building in which 

 the show will de held is in the very best part of the city.— 

 GEORGE H. Hill, Supt., 6 East Fourth street. The premium 

 list of this show contains 88 classes, divided as follows: 

 Pointers 7. English setters 5, Gordons 4, Irish setters 5, mas- 

 titis 4. St. Bernards rough 4, smooth 4, Newfoundlands 1, 

 Irish water spaniels 1, field spaniels 2. cockers 3. greyhounds 

 4, deerhounds 3, foxhounds 5, beagles 3, bassets 1, dachshunde 

 1, collies 5, fox-terriers, black and tan, Skye, Yorkshire, 

 Scotch, Dandie Dinmont, Irish and Bedlington terriers 1 

 each, bulldogs and Great Danes 1 each, pugs 4, toy terriers, 

 King Charles spaniels, poodles and Italians greyhounds 1 

 each, miscellaneous 2. The prizes in almost all the classes 

 are #10 for the first and |S for the second prize, with ribbons 

 for the puppies. The judges have not all been appointed as 

 yet, but Major J. M. Taylor will judge pointers, setters, fox- 

 hounds and beagles. 



CURE FOR WORMS.— The interest in fine sporting dogs 

 seems to increase in this vicinity. Quite a number of gentle- 

 men, and a few ladies, are extensively engaged in breeding 

 setters, spaniels, beagles etc., from the best stock obtainable. 

 The greatest difficulty we have in raising puppies in this 

 latitude is the distemper, and the past winter was the onlv 

 one I have known for several years without some loss from 

 this loathsome disease. I will give my brother breeders my 

 method of dispelling worms from dogs young or old. It is 

 simply to keep a few raw carrots within their reach and they 

 will soon learn to gnaw them, and the result will be not only 

 death to the worms but a sleek shining coat on the dog. 

 Should be pleased to see a communication regarding the 

 training of beagles in your columns, also, notes as to the 

 best weight or size for a beagle for running rabbits. — A. L. 

 Leioh. 



COLLIE CLUB STAKES FOR 1889.— Following is a list 

 of the stakes announced by the Collie Club of America for 

 1889: Third collie sweepstakes for puppies of 1888: Collie 

 Club trophy for American bred collie owned by club mem- 

 ber; president's cup for best collie owned by club member: 

 the futurity stakes, a sweepstakes for litters of 1888; pro- 

 duce stakes, for members only, and the stud dog stakes, 

 open to all. Also collie breeders' special prize offered by Mr 

 Geo. A. Fletcher, Milton, Mass., of &!5 for the best dog 

 puppy and $25 for the best bitch puppv whelped during the 

 year 1888, sired by his dog Scotson, to be awarded at a show 

 in the spring of 1889, to be hereafter announced. Entry 

 blanks containing full particulars may be obtained of the 

 secretary, J. D. Shotwell, Rahway, N. J. 



MEMNON'S PEDIGREE. — Editor Forest and Stream.: I 

 am advised that the pedigreee of my greyhound Memnon as 

 given is all wrong. I cannot understand where the former 

 owner, Mr. Smith, obtained this pedigree. I have in my posses- 

 sion a letter from Messrs. Charles Bros., Neaith, Wales, from 

 whom Memnon was imported, also an article by Barumite 

 in Bell's Life, which gives it as follows: Memnon, by Caliph 

 and out of Polly. C diph, by Improve (Patent— Cordelia) 

 and out of Charming May ( King Death— Chloe). The state- 

 ment of two such authorities proves beyond doubt that this 

 is the correct pedigree. Will you kindly make the correc- 

 tion.— II. W. Huntington. 



Average height at shoulders 23 7-18in. 



Average length from nose to set on of 

 tail 37 4-18im 



DEATH OF APOLLO— The well known smooth-coated St 

 Bernard dog Apollo died on Sunday last at the kennels of 

 the St. Bernard Breeding Club, Montclair Heights, New 

 Jersey, from rupture of a blood vessel. He was imported 

 two years ago, and from the celebrated kennel of Mr. Henry 

 Schumacher in Switzerland. He was exceptionally suc- 

 cessful on the show bench, and was also an excellent sire 

 It is understood that he would have started for the Boston 

 show on the following day. Apollo's remains will be pre- 

 served in the American Museum of Natural History in this 

 city. . 



AMERICAN COURSING CLUB.— St. Louis, March 27. 

 It will be required of all greyhounds running in the races 

 at the third annual meeting of the American Coursing Club 

 to be held at Great Bend, Kansas, Oct. 17 to 22, 1888, to be 

 registered in the "American Coursing Club Register," giv- 

 ing age, color, sex, etc. Dogs 18 months old and under give 

 date of whelping. Registration fee 25 cents each. Secretary 

 will furnish blanks if desired.— FRANK K. Doan, Sec'y, 1210 

 Olive street, St. Louis, Mo. 



EASTERN FIELD TRIALS CLUB.— A meeting of the 

 Board of Governors of this club will be held at the office of 

 Mr. F. R, Hitchcock, 44 Broadway, N. Y., April 10, at 3:30 

 P, M. 



KENNEL NOTES. 



Notes must be sent on prepared blanks, which are fur- 

 nished free on receipt of stamped and addressed envelope 

 of large letter size. Sets of 200 of any one form, bound for 

 retaining duplicates, aro sent for 30 cents. 



NAMES CLAIMED. 



E5P~ Notes must be sent on the Prepared Blanks. 



Ringwoud, Jr. By G. O. Taber, Garrettsville, O.. for black, white 

 and tan beagle dog, whelped March 56, 1885, by liingwood out of 

 Birdie. 



Daisy Blucboy. By G. O. Taber, Garrettsville, O., for black, 

 white and tan beagle bitch, whelped Aug. 4, 1880, by imported 

 Blueboy out of Flirt (Ring wood— Bush). 



Queen Esther. By G. O. Taber. Garrettsville, O.. for black, white 

 and tan beagle bitch, whelped Aug. 1, 1886, bv Driver (A.K.R. 3888! 

 out, of Flirt (A.K.R. 3196). 



Belie Baton. By Seaside Kennels, Bridgeport, Conn., for black, 

 white and tan setter bitch, whelped Dec. 27. 1887, by Rock Beltou 

 (Tale Belton— Princess Lily) out of Lady Belton (Yale Belton— 

 Daisy). 



BRED. 



Notes must be sent on the Prepared Blanks. 



Jess—Johnny. H. W. Windram's (Boston, Mass.) Clumber 

 spaniel bitch Jess (Jack— Jill) to F. H. F. Mercer's Johnny (Ben- 

 Joan), Feb. 13. 



