Apiiil 5, 1888. | 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



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Stock at fSO of the New York Shooting Ground. T hon« there are 

 enough live shooters in this little town to make snob an olrjeot 

 successful. Blue Rock. 



New York, March 29. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



I notice in vouv issue of March 22, your correspondent " Bed- 

 ford " says it is proposed to form a stock company to provide a 

 trap- r di noli rig ground in New York or ricinitv. He men'ionsthat 

 faeib'ties will he given for artificial target, live-bird and rifio 

 shooting. It will he difficult to find within the distance he men- 

 tions (30 minutes from City Hall) » place who'-" such a variety of 

 shooting could b" properly given even if specified dnvs should he 

 set apart for each kind. Rifle shooling would hardlv hold the 

 interest unless a great -number of ranges were provided, the 

 tendency of «b^rt-range shooting becngtb increase the distance, 

 and, perhaps, 1,3(10 yards range wculd not hp too great. Again, 

 live-pigeon shooting would do away with the artificial targets on 

 the days the form r was practiced. A very limited plot of 

 ground wm Id he necessary for properly conducting practice at 

 " clavs " even if three s'its of traps were used, a good light, how- 

 ever, being a stole qua non. 



In the third clause of "Bedford V letter he states (hat "all hef- 

 ting or gambling of any kind will he prohihit,ed. It would be 

 hard to decide in a shooter's views what constit utes "betrir.g and 

 gambling." Some dc hire that a U-hii'd match, 25 cuts entrance 

 is gambling. The ve/y essence of competition is to have some- 

 thing to compete for. If this somet .King is money, does it. consti- 

 tute gamblma? Expert matches, to which the ground is to be 

 partly devoted, have as their objects generally a money consider- 

 ation, the larger this is the bigger crowd they will draw, and with 

 the mixed assemblages which would patronize the place it would 

 be difficult, if not impossible, to get up prize shoots for anything 

 besides money. Ask the managers of tournaments what will 

 draw a good crowd of shooters better th ni a big and guaranteed 

 purse. And furl her. the gentlemen who shoot with the Country 

 Club, Westminster or New York, would not like (heir broadclotn 

 to be jostled by the cheviot i f the Essex, Middlesex. Lone Island 

 and others, nor would the latter want the nan worn of their 

 cheviots by the flannel shirts of seme, others lower down the 

 social scale. If you make a ground other than democratic it is 

 not public .and will develop cliques, as "Bedford" would have u« 

 believe is the case with clubs. New York cii v is not a shooting 

 center. The tournament lvld on the Metropolitan Ba°e BaO 

 grounds a few years ago by the National Gun Association showed 

 this. The in an a 'cment lost money and will never visit, the eitv 

 again. These grounds are singularly well sui'ed to the purpose 

 and easy of access. Small towns e»"t and west furnished nearly 

 all the shooters, hardly a corporal's guard of New York nieu 

 showing up. 



Enthusiastic as is the writer on the subject of shooting, he 

 would not invest a dollar in such a venture with the expectation 

 of seeing it again. Ii might work for a short time, but too short 

 to warrant such an outlay es would he required, and with the 

 three kinds of shooting there would be too many interests to 

 satisfy riflemen, pigem shooters and crockery smashers, and, as 

 has been said, the three, though closely allied, conflict greatly in 

 their practice. There is a club, hardly a greater distance from 

 City Hall than "Bedford" mentions, which has tried the experi- 

 ment of mixed shooting and failed. It is now devoted solelv to 

 the demolition of graven images and succeeds admirably. They 

 gamble, if sweepstake shooting for smnll entries may be 

 designated »>• so rough a name, and the club provides money 

 prizes, having found them the most satisfactory. Its theory is 

 that, to make a shoot interesting, there must bo a consideration, 

 and to prove it. experience shows that the largest purses have the 

 greatest number of competitors for them. Admitting that prize" 

 must be given to keep un the interest, we come to the subject of 

 handicapping, which will he necessary to encourage the. tyros. 

 How can this be accomplished in a large and m'xed assembly? 

 Even in small cluhs the handicap question is a tough one, the 

 toughest which, in an experience of nea.ly twenty years, the 

 writer lias tackled. 



Your eorr sspondent thinks the best way for gentlemen who 

 wish to improve their shooting, is to join some well managed 

 club, of which there are a number, some of them within an hour 

 of City Hall. The (dub mentioned above is within that time, with 

 access every 30 minutes. On a' rival will be found a comfortable 

 house, well handled traps and a number of shooters, large enough 

 to make it interesting and small enough to make it lively, a most 

 excellent light with practically no back-ground. This club is uot 

 the only one which may be reached easily by anyone wanting 

 practice, and. if the shooters in rlie vicinity of the city wish, they 

 can get all the p actice needed to make them good shots without 

 investing' more than one-tenth, what it would cost them to make 

 a public ground, aud a voice ia the management, whic h, in the 

 case o a stock company would be in the few. If " Bedford " 

 will send his address through Forest and Stream, the writer will 

 be happy to invite him to try his hand with our club, with the 

 intention of convincing him that facilities now exist for the pros- 

 ecution of shooting, and that though the club has been in exist- 

 ence for more than seven years, it is not "governed by a 

 clique." Occasional. 



New York, March 31. 



EAST HARTFCRD, Conn.. March 30.— We have commenced 

 operations for the season of 18S8, the first shoot, Fast Day, March 

 30. shows for itself, and considering the small attendance, was 

 fully up to our average; inclosed is score in full. We are mak- 

 ing extensive arrangements for our regular State spring tourna- 

 ment, which is to be held Wednesday, April 25, and bids fair 

 to be the most, successful over given by ns. 



P Risley 1 ' llilOllllOlPOll ll 11111 —22 



O Hollister 11111101' 11110111111 11110-22 



M E Ensign 1110111111110111111110111—22 



C Burnham llllllllOOUlOllimiO 01-20 



C Vibert 001111(1 U0U1 nOllOilll-26 



F Burton HOlllOlOlllllOOlTlOU 01—18 



E ') Goodwin 01110100010 11 0111111101—17 



A F Olmsted 01111011111 0010010110111—17 



N Bur nham 001110110111 1 010 1 11 10011 0— 1 (1 



s mils - 0011110111111 0011110100- m 



O Treat 11111011] 1 Ml 1OITIOOIOIQ] 0—1 5 



W Foley 0111000101110110110100010—13 



SOLOMON, Kas., March 27.— Independent Gun Club at blue 

 rocks and Peorias, 21yds. rise: 



C H Smith 11101 00011 inilOtlHOlllOl-17 



Kraenehi, Jr C0UOU0001111U11011O011-1-1 



Ed worthy 010 llOlllOOOlOOlO 100130-10 



Johnson, B 010GC 101 001011 01C101 01111-12 



E d cmoks nmnrioiiioioiiiiiioiiio-is 



W Pa e s n OUllw. 



JDewar, C J 11111 10001 OOllCllllllOlll-17 



Second match at. 7 live Turds: 



Smit h 1000 1 1 1-4 Crooks 1 1ll 1 1 1—7 



Johnson 0C11 '.0—3 De war IttOOO— 3 



Edwot'thy 1111H0-6 



GARDNER, Mas?., March 23.— At the last regular meet at 

 Hackmatack range of the Gardner Ride Club the shooting was 

 off-hand, with the following results: 



American Standard Target, 200yds. 



G F Ellsworth 81 85 -IGti F B E Igell 67 81-141 



WC Loveland. 74 74—148 C N Edgell 09 10— lg9 



A E Knowhon 60 74-144 C J Crabtree 69 fO— 169 



F E Nichols e.9 74-143 C L Leland. 60 C8-137 



Military Rifle. Creedmcor Target, 200yds. 

 Sergt B F Thrasher. ... 42 41— S3 Private F B Edgell. . . .41 41— 82 



Revol vcr Match, 50yds. 

 BWRice 80 87 167 GCGoodale 6161—122 



TORONTO, March 27.— The second competition of the West 

 Toronto Junction GuuCtub for the Enos James gun, p esented 

 through Mr. Chas. Stark, took place at Dan Blea's grounds to- 

 day. The following are the scores of the members who were not 

 present at the first ah -ot. Twenty Canada blackbirds; 3 screened 

 traps; 18yd-. rise: Clark 16. W. Davidge 15, F. Brimer It, W. 

 Brigglo, W. McOowall 12, B. Wihon 11. The following are the 



Sawdon was referee. 



OASTLETON, N. Y., March 28.-Castleton Corners Gun Club, 

 15 Ligowsky clay birds each, at the second monthly shoot, 18yds. 

 rise, i-iurlingham rules, gold and silver medals: W. Blake 5. J. 

 Dickemann O.Jerry McGuire 7. H. Rousmann 9, A. Mayer 3', J. 

 Schahert 7 < ', H. Seehuson 9, A. Vroom 7, F, Mayer 4, Ties on 9 

 for first at 3 birds, 18yds., won by H. fiousmann. Four sweep- 

 stake matches followed. 



MONTREAL.— The Montreal Gun Club has secured grounds, 

 resembling the famous grounds at Monaco, situated about 200yds. 

 west of the new M, A, A. grounds. It is intended that the club 

 shall he the best and mobt select in Canada, 



THE FOREST AND STREAM CUP. 



CONDITIONS FOR THE COMPETITION FOR 1888. 



A year ago or more, the Forest and Stream placed in the hands 

 of the. trap shooters of the country for competitors a 

 valuable and artistic silver cup. It was styled the "Forest 

 and Stream Decoration Day TBOPBT," and was to be shot tor 

 on May 30. There was a generous response m tho part of clubs, 

 and tho sweepstake prizes, which included! the entire receipts 

 from entry fees, were well worth winning. There was a tie tor 

 first place and after several arrangements for the disposition of 

 it, an agreement was made by which a chock for $50 was sent to 

 each of the two leading clubs aud tho Trophy remains in the 

 hands of the Forest and Stream. 



This year the Trophy is again placed in competition, but with 

 conditions slightly amended in order to give more general satis- 

 faction. In place of a single competition fixed for Decoration 

 Day.it is now proposed to make the winning of place depend 

 ut ou the aggregate result of three shoots out of a possible live, 

 and to permit the date of shooting the contests to be taken at 

 club pleasure at any announced time during the entire shooting 

 season, The entry fee has been fixed at £10 per team, and the 

 d sposi'tion of tins fund into three prizes to follow the main honor 

 prize will hold as in last year. The field is open to all. The con- 

 ditions have been fixed on a broad, simple and liberal basis, and 

 the list of entries should be a long one. 



Forest and Stream Decoration Day Trophy. 



Manvjacturcd by the TVltiting Manufacturing Co. for the Forest 

 and Strsam. Solid- stiver, height OHin., diameter 5J#».» 

 ebony pedestal, height, 5^i/i. Value, $100. 



The competition will be open to all gun clubs in the United 

 States which were organized by March 15, 1.M88. 



To bj competed for by teams of three club members, each 

 man to shoot at 15 artificial targets thrown from a single 

 trap. 



A club may euter more than one team, provided, however, 

 that no member may shoot on more than one team. Entrance 

 fee, $10 per team. The entire sura of the entrance moneys (nothing 

 whatever being taken out) will be divided into prize*, as stated 

 below. 



Each team may shoot on its own grounds, or elsewhere, as con- 

 venient. 



Any target manufactured by the following concerns may be 

 used, viz.: The Ligowsky Clay Pigeon Co., Cincinnati, (>.; 'the 

 Niagara Flying 'target Co., Suspension Bridge, N. Y.; the Target 

 Ball and B. P. Co., Lockport, N. Y.; the Cleveland Target Co., 

 Atlantic Ammunition Co., 291 Broadw ty, New York city, 

 agents. No more than one stylo of target can be used by any 

 one team. 



Targets may be thrown from any trap manufactured by any of 

 these companies; trap to be set to throw the targets at least 45yds. 

 from trap. 



Five targets to h>, thrown straightaway, 5 at a right angle to the 

 right, and 5 at a right ang'e to the left. 



Guns of 10, 12 or smaller bore may he used; both barrels per- 

 mitted. Distance from trap, 18yds. for 10-bores. and 16yds. for 

 12-bores or smaller. Any charge of powder with lj-soz. shot. Gun 

 to be held below the armpit until shooters call "pull." 



Prizes to be determined on the aggregate or: i , ; n ~, ^hoors 

 held between May 15 and Sept. 15, 1888. Each shoot to be held on 

 aground open to the public aud at least 2 weeks' notice of the 

 intended date of each shoot to be sent to the office of Forest and 

 Stream. 



First Prize.— The team making h'ghest score will receive the 

 Forest and Stream Decoration Day Trophy, value if 100. 



Second Prize.— The team making second best score will receive 

 a cash prize of 50 per cent, of all the entrance fees. 



Third Prize— Team with third highest score will receive 30 per 

 cent, of entrance fees. 



Fourth Prize.— Teun with fourth highest score will receive 20 

 per cent, of entrance fees. 



If there are ties, they will be decided according to the rules of 

 class shooting. In case of a tie on highest score tho tie must be 

 shot off as directed by Forest and Stream, and the Trophy will 

 be awarded to the team then making highest score. The second 

 prize will be given to the team or teams making the second best 

 score in the match. If two or more teams tie on second best score, 

 the tie must be shot off unless the money be divided by unanimous 

 consent of all interested. The remaining prizes will be awarded 

 in 1 he same manner. Ties will be shot under tho same conditions 

 as those of the match. 



Po nts not provided for in these conditions to be governed by 

 the National Gun Association rules. 



Entries for the Tiophy match must be mailed to the Forest and 

 Stream Publishing Company ou or before May L The entry of 

 each team must be accompanied with entry fee of $10. The 

 members of each team must be named vu the entry blank, and 

 each shooter must he designated by his real name. 



Scores must be, recorded m ink or indelible pencil on printed 

 blanks which will be furnished, and their correctness certified 

 hy the. scorer and tw o officers or other members of the club not 

 contestants and witnesses of the shooting. They must be mailed 

 within tvveuty-four hours after the completion of the match. 



TROPHY POINTS AND NOTES. 



Circulars giving full conditions will be mailed on application. 

 Only the targets named will be allowed, i. e., those made by tne 

 following concerns: 

 Ligowsky Clay-Pigeon Co. 



Cleveland Target Co., Atlantic Ammunition Co., agents. 

 Niagara Flying Target Co. 

 Target Ball & B P. Co. 



The match is open to clubs in anv part of the United States. 

 The Forest and Stream would be glad to see the South aud 

 West well represented. 



The National Gun Acsooiation will govern points not covered by 

 printed conditions. 



There are no restrictions as to how- the different strings must be 

 shot; {. e„ a shooter mav shoot all straightaway birds before shoot- 

 ing the others or may alternate. 



The one-trap rule does not prevent use of more than one trap, 

 so that t wo or three may be shooting at the same time, to expedite 

 matters, provided one-trap conditions are preserved. 



Tho N. G. A. rule is that all targets to score must be broken in 

 the air before falling to the ground. 



}}} ? 11 i )as f s ot dispute tli© decision of the FoRuax and Stream 

 will be unaL 



Members of the team must shoot on the same ground. 



One sce>re only to be shot, not the best score selected from a 

 series. The Trophy score maybe merged with that of another 

 match if previously announced. 



No changes of personnel of teams to be made except in case of 

 death or physical disability. 



A second barrel break counts a whole bird. 



Money to be sent through regular club channels, with list of 

 team members. 



The Trophy is now on exhibition in Mr. Henry C. Squires's 

 show r window, at 178 Broadway, New York. 



KANSAS CITY, March 22.— There, were, about 40 sportsmen at 

 the Kansas City Shooting Park, near the Blue, this afternoon, 

 the occasion being the monthly medal shoot of tne Independent 

 Gun Club. The sport was somewhat curtailed by the senrcif y of 

 pigeons, there bei ng barely enough for the medal shoot and 'the 

 sweepstake, shoot; even then the two were combined. The day 

 was bright, but the wind was just cold enough to be unpleasant. 

 The birds were about an a verage lot, some of them being rapid 

 "tailers," whTe others were not much better than "squabs." The 

 scores on the whole wore fair. Mr. Fred Maogley m ide the only 

 clean score of the dav, thereby winning the medal and first money 

 in the sweepstake. The conditions of the shooting were as usual. 

 Ten birds each, 3 at 21yds. rise, 3 at 20yds. and 4 at, 31yds.; 80yds. 

 boundary. The score of the me lal shoot is as follows: 



R C VanHorn 1101110011— 6 n Everingham HOIO'OOIO— 5 



Carl Gutnotte 1111000010— 5 Ezra Bingham 1010'IUIOI— 6 



Dr Stark lOlOiOUll-'— 6 L Kunz 1110110001- 6 



WVRieger 01U010111- 7 F Maegley 1 11111111-10 



Ed Bingham 111U)10JU— 7 Geo Orr HlOlOOoOO— 4 



Geo Stockwell . . . .ILI'01010— 7 



The additional scores in tho sweepstake shoot were: 



D L McBride 1001000110—4 R D Mize 1110010011— fi 



Drury Underwood. .0111000001-4 C II McBride UU00100 —3 



T D Bedford 0111011001-6 G 11 Parker 0011110110-6 



R C Proctor 100Q100IOO-3 P Fairman 0111000100-4 



In shooting off the tie for second money, W V. Rieger and 

 George Stockwell tied and divided the money. There was only 

 one bird each for the shoot-off of the tie for third money, and, as 

 only one was shot out, the other contestants decided the tie at 

 five Peoria blackbirds, and Ezia Bingham proved to be the victor, 

 tieing Messrs. Bedford and Parker, but finally shooting them 

 out. The second tie was won by Ezra Bingham. 



OTTAWA, March 24.— The. St. Hubert's Gun Club held a shoot 

 this afternoon in cold and somewdiat windy weal her. The first 

 was a team match of 5 men, each captained by Messrs. Thompson 

 and Detlauriers, 15 Ligowsky pigeons each, 18ydB. rise. The fol- 

 lowing were the scores: 



Trudeau 12 G White 8 



Tlrroop 5 S White 6 



Thompson ..7 Ed White 7 



E Ring 6 JDeflauriers 10 



Dr Martin 8—38 T McLelan 10-41 



A second match was then shot at 10 birds each by same team: 



Trudeau 9 G White 5 



Throop 5 S White i 



Thompson 6 Ed White 4 



E King 4 J Deshnuiers 6 



Dr Martin 7—31 T McLelan 9—28 



The ties between Messrs. Trudeau and McLelan were shot off 

 at 3 birds each, 20yds. rise; 2yds. back for each tic: Trudeau 

 111111—0, McLelan 1111 10— 5. His Excellency, the Governor-Gen- 

 eral, has promised the club a handsome stiver t rophy cup, to bo 

 competed for every 2tth of May, by teams of five men each from 

 any regularly organized gun club m the Dominion. Tbe winning 

 team will he entitled to held the cup until the next 24th of May, 

 when it will be again put up. The cup will be valued at £100. and 

 an jingemems will be made as tc prizes going with it The cup 

 will first he shot for next 21th of May. 



THE NEW YOKK STATE SHOOT. — Auburn, N. Y., April 2. — 

 Editor Forest and Stream: For the first time in the record cf the 

 New- York State Association the contestants are to be divided 

 into classes according to their averages made at regular club 

 shoots held the preceding season. This gives rise to a number 

 of opinions as to now the classes should snoot. It has been sug- 

 gested that a handicap of the classes should be shot, viz: The 

 60 per ceut shooting from 18yds. rise, the TO per cent 20, 80 per cent. 

 22, and the 90 per cent 24. All ties bei ug sh t at trie respective 

 distances of the different, classes. Another wav has also been 

 presented, that of dividing the prizes and having different classes 

 contest for the several different prizes. I think if you could get 

 the opinions of the different clubs of the Associat on it would 

 assist us materially. It is the wish of the club to give entire 

 satisfaetisn to all. And there is no doubt ut that it will equal 

 if not excel any State shoot since the first annual, both in cash 

 prizes and the quantity and quality of the other prizes.— Char- 

 les E. Kerr. Sec'y Auburn Gun Cluh. 



LAFAYETTE, Ind., March 28.-Fred Erb finished to-day the 

 most remarkable shoot ever shot in the city. It v\ as at 600 Cleve- 

 land standard targets, on a wager that he could break 475 out of a 

 bait thousand. He began Monday and shot 2C0 targets, using a . 

 No. 12 Lefever gun, scoring 190. The targets were sprung at 16yds. 

 On Tuesday he shot 200 at 18yds. with his new No. 10 Letever. 

 which arrived Monday, again breaking 1S6. To-day he tiuished 

 with the new gun, and at the distance shot Tuesday, storing 98. 

 He used the Peters cartridge, which does away with the crimp. 

 In this remarkable shoot, a portion of which was shot in the lain, 

 ho made the fine score of 490. 



BOGABDUS VS. IRWIN.— The spring tournament of the 

 Abilene (Kan.) Gun Club will take place on the club grounds 

 April 11 and '2. Targets to be governed by National rules. Live 

 birds by Hurlingham rules, except as to gun. Class shooting, 

 three prizes, 50, 30 ard 20 percent. There will he 8 events at 

 Peoria blackbirds aud two at live birds. During the tournament 

 the match, between Cap. A. H. Bigardus, champion wtug shot of 

 the world' and W. T. lrwiu, will take place for a purse of $200. 

 Conditions— 100 live birds each Ilurlingham rules. 



TORONTO, March 24. -The following are the scores at 20 birds 

 each made by the members of the Owl Gun Club at their first of 

 six contests for a valuable gun preseuted by Enos. James & Co., 

 through their agents, Messrs. Chas. Stark & Co., In Id at Wm. 

 MeDo wall's grounds to-day: J. Job! ott 18, H. George 15, Wm. 

 Smith 15, W. Felstead 15, J. Townson 15, J. Douglas 14, L. Hawkes- 

 worth 14, H. Charles 14, E. W. Sandys 13, J. Rice 11, W. MeDowall 

 11. G. Jones 10, J. St, John 10, A. F. Beatty 9, J. Gould 9. 



CARO, Mich, March 30.— Following are the scores made b'- the 

 Caro Gun Cluh at 15 Peoria blackbirds: B. F. Harris 4, B. F.'Net- 

 tleton 3, F. H. Baillie 4, Kormau Lester 7, J. It. Mason 10, G. W. 

 Smith 5. 



ATHOL, Mass., March 30.— The Athol Rod and Gun Club has 

 reorganized and elected officers as follows: President, Dr. L. F. 

 Tal man; Vice-President and Captain, A. L. Pike; Treasurer, C. 

 M. Peirce. 



Address all communications to the Forest and Stream Pub. Co. 



AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION. 



NOTICE is hereby given that the following amendments to the 

 Constitution will be submitted to a vote of the Executive 

 Committee two weeks hereaf er. To add after Article IX., an 

 article as follows, to be numbered Article X., and to renumber 

 the remaining articles: 



Article X — New divisions of the A. C. A. may be formed at any 

 time, provided, first, the new Division shall number not less than 

 100 members in good standing of the A. C. A.; second, the 

 Divisions orDivisou from which the new Division is formed shall 

 not be reduced to less than 100 members each. The Division shall 

 he geographically a unit and shall not divide the territoiv of any 

 existing Division in two parts. Any twenty or more members in 

 good standing residing within 100 miles of a given point may 

 make an application in writing to the Commodore for the forma- 

 tion of a new Division, giving the boundaries proposed, e\ idence 

 that the above named conditions are complied with, and accom- 

 panying their application with the sum of $10 for the expenses of 

 taking the vote. The Commodore shall cause notice of such 

 application to be published in one of the official oigaus, inviting 

 expression of opinion from members, and shall cause a circular 

 letter to be sent to each member within the proposed boundaries, 

 demanding a vote by letter upon the question of forming the 

 Division. Within thirty days from publication of notice the 

 Commodore shall lay the applica ion, together with the statement 

 of all protests and the result of the vote, before tho Executive 

 Committee for their vote thereon, and upon receiving a majority 

 of s,ueh votes in favor of the new Division, he shall approve the 

 same and shall give fourteen days' notice in one of the official 



