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FOREST AND STREAM, 



[Sept. 3d, 1887. 



MONTGOMERY SAILING CLUB, Norristown. Pa,, Sept. 28- 

 Eighteenth ciuise. Course, Norristown to Indian Creek and re- 

 turn, distance five miles. Wind fresh to brisk northlv. The start 

 was made at 9 A. M.: 



Finish. Corrected. 



Josephine, tuckup, E. Powers 10 20 25 1 20 20 



Igidious, tuckup, Wm. Rochell 10 21 31 1 23 21 



Gracie, skiff. E. A. Leopold 10 33 29 1 24 26 



Priscilla, tuckup, E. Stanley 10 26 09 1 26 46 



Bowers, tuckup, C. DeHaven 10 30 30 1 80 30 



H. C. Scott, tuckup, W. Carnathan 10 81 31 1 30 31 



Playfom, tuckup, Grisdale Bros 10 30 42 1 30 42 



E. C. Potts, tuckup, Parker Bros 10 32 30 1 30 50 



Ino, ducker, W. Sullivan 10 50 08 1 47 16 



Lulu, tuckup, Jas. Frith Withdrew. 



Pennsylvania, hiker, J. Adams Withdrew. 



Princess, canoe, C. Wainwright Withdrew. 



Josephine wins champion pennant. Judge, Thomas Rochell. 

 After the race the Bowers, with her crew of four men, attempted 

 to jibe around the point of Barbadoes Island and capsized. The 

 Princess is a decked canoe 15 x36, and carries 85ft, of sail in main 

 and mizen. She was overpowered bv the heavy putt's, and ran for 

 home before reaching the outer mark. The open boat Gracie 

 12 x 34, carried the same amount of sail over the entire course and 

 shipped less than a gallon of water. She has a Sin. roekered lead 

 keel weighing 261bs, and carried 151bs. of lead and 151bs. of paper 

 packages inside ballast. Her skipper weighs 1211bs. 



NEW ROGHELLE Y. C— On Sept. 24 the New Rochelle Y. C. 

 sailed a race for catboats only, the course being twice around 

 Execution Light, 12 miles, making two legs to windward and two 

 free, the wind being strong N.W. The times were: 



CLASS VT., 23FT. AND OVER. 



Start. Finish. Elapsed. Corrected. 



Stream 1 02 20 3 00 14 1 ST 54 1 57 54 



Adele 1 01 50 2 58 10 1 56 20 1 55 49 



La Perichole 12 57 25 Did not finish. 



class vn., 19ft. and under 23ft. 



Olive N 1 00 30 3 18 20 2 17 50 2 17 50 



Marion 12 56 10 Did not finish. 



CLASS VIET., UNDER 19FT. 



Terrapin 12 59 00 3 19 00 2 22 25 2 22 12 



Nettie 12 55 55 3 32 02 2 37 07 2 36 17 



Gracie L 12 56 35 3 42 00 2 45 25 2 44 52 



After the race Perichole challenged Adele to sail at once, one 

 round of the same course, for §100 a side. The offer was accepted, 

 Perichole finally winning by 5m. 23s. 



MIRAMICHI Y. C— An open race for prizes presented by the 

 club, sweepstakes and silver cups, was sailed on Sept, 18 in a stiff 

 norVester, with frequent squalls. Only plain sails were carried 

 on the first half of the course, from Chatham to Newcastle, which 

 was a dead heat, but spinakers were set on the return. The 

 schooner Fedora sent up a staysail after rounding the mark and 

 almost instantly had her maintopmast carried away and was 

 unable to get the wreck down. The distance was 12 miles: 



FIRST CLASS. 



„ , Elapsed. Corrected. 



Kilbride, J. C. Miller 1 69 00 1 43 31 



Kittoch. Jas. MiUer 2 04 05 1 48 16 



Fisherman, D. McLean 2 04 50 1 52 56 



Fedora, J. L. Stewart 2 19 40 2 05 45 



Arrow, Geo. Watt 23020 2 11 20 



SECOND CLASS. 



Pooh-bah. H. A. Muirhead • 2 41 55 2 14 13 



Bear, M. Hayes 2 49 45 2 22 03 



Annie, W. R. Gould Lost rudder. 



Terror, D. McEachran Swamped. 



Daisy, Chas. Wilson Did not finish. 



SHAMROCK AND TITANIA. — A remeasurement of these 

 yachts was made after the race of last Tuesday, making the 

 official figures as follows: 



Start. Finish. Elapsed. Corrected. 



Shamrock 11 09 58 3 27 14 4 17 16 4 15 5794 



Titania 11 15 00 3 26 13 4 16 13 4 16 13 



By these figures Shamrock wins, instead of Titania, as at first 

 reported. 



WITCH AND BETH.-On Sept. 23 a match was sailed off 

 Marblehead between Witch, B. B. Crowninshield, and Beth. 

 Witch led until her topmast went, when she lost some time clear- 

 ing the wreck, but finally passed Beth again, finally winning bv 

 7m. 33s. 



ROYAL CANADIAN Y. 0— A race was sailed on Sept. 17 be- 

 tween Cyprus, Verve, Yolande and Molly, the former winning by 

 lm. 81s. 



QUINCY Y. C— The sail off of the third class in the Quincy Y. 

 C. resulted in a victory for Wildfire, and she takes the champion- 

 ship. 



ORIOLE AND ATALANTA.— Mr. George Gooderham, Of Tor- 

 onto, has written the following letter to Mr. W. J. Eyre.Owner of 

 the Atalanta, accepting the challenge of the latter: Toronto, 

 Sept. 17, 1887— My Dear Sir: I am in receipt of yours of 10th inst., 

 which reads as follows: "I am informed you have made the as- 

 sertion that your boat can outsail the Atalanta. I hereby chal- 

 lenge you to sail a match race for a thousand dollars a side, 

 twenty miles to windward and back, the race to be sailed one 

 month from date. Yours truly, AV. J. Eyre, Brighton, Sept. 10. 

 If challenge is accepted half will be posted with the editor of the 

 Sporting Times." In reply to the above I accept your challenge 

 subject to the. following conditions: 1. The race to be sailed under 

 the Lake Yacht Racing Association rules, and under the auspices 

 of either the Royal Canadian or Toronto yacht clubs. 2. The race 

 to be an open lake race, and to be sailed off the port of Toronto. 

 3. The distance to be twenty miles to windward and return, or vice 

 versa. 4. The race to he sailed in seven hours, or no race. 5. The 

 Oriole to allow the Atalanta $50 for expenses coming to Toronto. 

 Yours very truly, George Gooderham. In order the more thor- 

 oughly to test the sailing qualities of the boats and to guard 

 against defeat through accident, I would suggest that the race 

 be made the best out of three, and if you desire it that the purse 

 be increased.— G. G. 



OUTBUILDING IN THE CUP RACES.-Editor Forest and 

 Stream: When Genesta challenged for the Cup, representatives of 

 the N. Y. Y. C. built the Priscilla to meet her, and they deliberately 

 and intentionally made their boat fully 3ft. longer than the chal- 

 lenger, but there was no spasm of virtuous justice developed then. 

 What causes this Budden clamor for "fair play" now that the 

 Thistle has inadvertently taken only half the advantage that we 

 attempted so recently? Is it the trembling of our pocketbooks 

 that has so awakened our sense of justice? Whatever the cause, 

 would it not be well to settle the whole question, and not rest 

 satisfied with deciding what are the obligations of the challenger? 

 It may not be necessary to put it in the form of an agreement, but 

 it certainly would be eminent! v satisfactory and reassuring to 

 future challengers if the N. Y. Y. C. put on record that it is the 

 sense of the club that a challenging yacht should not be outbuilt 

 by the holder of the Cup.— W. F. H. 



FORTUNA— Ex-Corn. Hovey and Mr. C. A. Longfellow have 

 returned from England, having laid Fortuna up at Southampton, 

 where Day & Summers have hauled her up and removed her 

 masts. Capt. Newcomb and the crew are on the way home by 

 steamer. 



\nnwtm to (^omzyondmtfi. 



Address all communications to the Forest and Stream Pub. Co. 



H. F. M.— It may be had of the tackle manufacturers, or of the 

 Shipmans, Philadelphia. We cannot say just when you could 

 strike the ducks in New York markets. Write to Drohan & 

 Powell, Washington street, New York. 



L. W. H.-= 1. We do not recommend its use. 2. Ball may be 

 used, if it is small enough, but there is always liability of acci- 

 dent with it. If you use buckshot see that they will chamber in 

 the choke so as to pass through without difficulty. 



Warden Jack, Toronto.— 1. Would you kindly inform me if 

 meadow larks are game birds or not? What is the value of a good 

 golden eagle, well mounted, also bald-headed eagle? Ans. 1. The 

 meadow lark is not a game bird. 2. In the vicinity of $15. 



N. E. J.— In issue of 15th inst. H. Holgate asks about wild rice 

 planting among the northern lakes. Has it been attempted suc- 

 cessfully in Chesapeake Bay, and under what conditions? Ans. 

 We do not recall wild rice planting in the locality mentioned. 



H. K., Madison, Wis.— While shooting Wilson (or jack snipe as 

 they are called here) I saw a snipe spring up before the dog, and, 

 without making any sound, fly slowly away with something that 

 looked like a bunch of feathers between his feet. Do snipe carry 

 their young like the woodcock? Ans. Woodcock do this, but snipe 

 are not known to have the habit. 



Dory.— Will you kindly inform me where I can obtain black 

 bass for stocking purposes? They are not bred at the State fish 

 hatchery. The fishing in this immediate vicinity is discouraging. 

 There is a pond here in which I think bass would breed. I should 

 like to put them in without mentioning the fact and let them take 

 their chances of living and breeding. I feel sure that they would 

 survive, and the fact of their being there would become known 

 soon enough. Ans. We know of no one who keeps black bass for 

 this purpose. There are repeated calls for the fish. 



J. C— My shot measure, at the l^Joz. notch, flush measure, holds 

 just loz. 85grs. by careful weight, and the pellets count. No. 7 size, 

 just 363. As 600grs. would be l^oz., 1 find the measure 35grs. short, 

 equal to 57 pellets. I find allowed by manufacturer 364 pellets for 

 l!>|oz. Will you please state if I should load 57 more pellets to a 

 charge, giving actual weight 1 J4oz. Would I be permitted by the 

 National Gun Club rules to shoot them at the trap in a match, or 

 must I be governed by the count instead of weight? Ans. The 

 Dixon powder measure is the standard adopted by the N. G. A. 

 Ube that, struck measure, without regard to the weight. 



1ST" No Notice Taken of Anonymous Correspondents. 



C. B.— We do not recommend its use. 



C. D., Freeland— Milford, Pike county, Pa. 



W. W. R., Ohio.— The .45-70-500, with Lyman sights. • 



J. M.— Write to the Springfield Armory, Springfield, Mass. 



J. W. R., City.— Robin season on Staten Island will open Nov. 1. 



B. L. C, Catasauqua.— We hope to have the full text of the law 

 by next week. 



C. D., Pennsylvania.— Go to Tom Chester's, Second Connecticut 

 Lake, New Hampshire. 



W. A. S., New Haven, O.— The White River region of Arkansas 

 will probably be better for your purpose than the other. 



H. E. A. — We understand that experience with it has shown 

 very satisfactory results. It is claimed to be perfectly safe. 



J. J. S.— Send for the special daily Wimbledon edition of the 

 Volunteer Service Gazette, No. 121 Fleet street, London, Eng. 



F. F. P., Newark, N. J.— Is it lawful to shoot game in Connecticut 

 in season and take it out of the State with you for your own use 

 or to seU? Aus. No. 



F. A. C, Newfield. Me.— You may find a market for the live ani- 

 mals with Chas. Reiche & Bro., Chatham street, New York. The 

 dobson is the helgramite. The gun is a good one. 



G. R, S.— We should not give very much consideration to the 

 mere trajectory in the cases mentioned. Either arm will do capi- 

 tal work and you would do well to select the larger caliber. The 

 single shooter is the one to choose. 



The Passaic County Fish and Game Protective Associa- 

 tion, of Paterson, N. J., has entered on a novel field. It 

 has engaged counsel to certiorari to the Supreme Court 

 the ordinance of that city requiring a registry fee of $2 

 for every dog owned by a resident. It is claimed that the 

 city's charter contains no authority for, the. imposition of 

 a tax on dogs; when a tax of $2 was levied this point was 

 raised, and the city then resorted to the subterfuge of re- 

 quiring each dog to be licensed, the fee being $2. Ad- 

 mitting the right to demand registry, it is nevertheless 

 clear that the charge of $2 is excessive. The Association 

 is sanguine of success in its endeavor to abolish the ordi- 

 nance. 



The penal code of New York porhibits hunting and 

 fishing on Sunday, but the statute is very generally dis- 

 regarded, alike in town and in the woods. Sunday is the 

 great salt-water fishing day of the week in the vicinity of 

 New York city, and in the Adirondacks a deer is not 

 shielded by the State law if he ventures within shot. A 

 Clinton exchange, of Sept. 7, records: "A party consist- 

 ing of Dr. Peck, H. B. vann. Ellery Stebbins and Frank 

 Elliott returned this morning from Jock's Lake with a 

 fine deer which Mr. Elliott shot just before church time 

 on Sunday night." 



More coon guns are coming. The change in the caliber 

 of the British service arm leaves a lot of 100,000 Enfield- 

 Martini rifles in the racks of the English government 

 armories. These arms will come in for reboring into 

 cheap shotguns just as the old army Springfield was 

 treated. If the caliber reduction keeps up, a stop will be 

 put to the industry of buying up government rifles at old 

 iron figures and reissuing them after boring as safe shot- 

 guns at dirt cheap prices. 



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