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FOREST AND STREAM. 



[Nov. 39, 1888» 



complishing; the end sought. This is what has been done by 

 Dr. M. H. Oyer, of Philadelphia, in his breeding ot prize- 

 winning pugs. Dr. Oyer set ont with the intention ot 

 sweeping the decks, and he went to work to do this not m 

 the easiest way— by buying prize winners ready-made— but by 

 his own breeding. He was looking for the satisfaction of a 

 victory self-won. and a satisfaction which is not to be found 

 in a victory bought. The names of pugs put forward by Dr. 

 Over have been familiar to the bench show attendants ot 

 1887 and 1888. They were Champion Max, Doctor, Cham- 

 pion Dude, Imported Othello, Champion Bessie, Daisy and 

 Vesta The record he made shows that out of sixteen lead- 

 ine shows the above dogs won every first prize ottered m 

 open classes except four, and all of the champion prizes they 

 were eligible for except one. In puppies' prizes they Avon 

 five first out of eight competed for, and three second. Dr. 

 Over announces that some of his string are for sale, and we 

 hope that the blood may be widely diffused. 



We learn that it is the intention of an ardent admirer of 

 the reds to bring out to this country a string of at least four 

 of the best Irish setters he can find for money on the other 

 side. 



PRACTICAL JUDGING. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



In my letter of Nov. 15 a printer's error fails to make 

 clear a point I made. In writing of Mr. Wado running 

 down the Crown Prince mastiffs I then said: "At the same 

 time he breeds [not holdsj to Orlando." That dog, be it 

 understood, was so bad on his legs he could hardly walk. 



My concluding sentence: "Mastiffs are 'fancy' from one 

 end to the other, and about the only dogs I know of that 

 are not are business bull-terriers and greyhounds." may seem 

 altogether too strong, yet if we are to consider adaptability 

 to work and then take up any of the standards and scale of 

 points and consider how many of the 100 points really mean 

 anything in the dog's work, a very small modicum of salt 

 will be needed to make the assertion pass. Let us take the 

 breeds in the usual catalogue order. 



Mastiffs.— The work of a mastiff is alleged to be that of a 

 watchdog and protector. Can any one be bold enough to 

 advance the statement that in order to make a mastiff a 

 good watchdog it is necessary that he should have a square 

 muzzle, a massive head, ears of a certain size and hung in a 

 certain manner, that his coat must be of a certain quality 

 and denseness, and his tail of a certain length and carried 

 in a certain manner? Not one of these show essentials ren- 

 ders its possessor any better qualified to bark at the approach 

 of a stranger or to prevent his appropriating property belong- 

 ing to his master. 



St. Bernards.— I must admit my ignorance of any practi- 

 cal use for these dogs as a breed. As the Hospice dogs are 

 admittedly cross-bred animals, it stands to reason that their 

 duties can be learned by any sensible cross-bred dog which is 

 afforded the opportunity they have had. 



Newfoundlands. — Requirements, those of a waterdog. 

 Most waterdogs have curly coats, and the size and shape of 

 a dog's head has nothing to do with his swimming powers. 

 In the otterhouud standard we are told that the long, pen- 

 dulous folding ear is necessary to keep water from reaching 

 the interior. Why is it not also necessaryin the Newfound- 

 land? I should fancy that a Chesapeake Bay coated dog, or 

 one with an Irish spaniel's jacket, would be infinitely pref- 

 erable for a waterdog than the heavy flat-coated animal the 

 English people say is a Newfoundland. I admit the grandeur 

 of the dog of to-day, but where does the practical work come 

 in? 



Great Danes. — I believe some use could be made of these 

 dogs in the West to hunt wolves. I have heard of at least 

 one successful experiment with one that did possess "nose." 

 If this is the practical side of the breed, then racing lines 

 must be followed, but at present scale points govern. I 

 should like it to be understood that we have nothing in this 

 country that could get anywhere near the front at a good 

 English show. 



Beerhounds. — Here we are on the fence. A dog is wanted 

 to pull down a wounded deer, and capable of racing over a 

 rough, broken country. This requires excellent conforma- 

 tion, but the standard calls for so many other things to fill 

 the bill that it is no small matter to draw the line between 

 fancy and form. On form I should have placed Mr. Thayer's 

 third-prize bitch over his second-prize winner at Buffalo, 

 but sue had not the "standard" coat in quality or lengthj 

 and I followed in the steps of my predecessors iu placing a 

 bad-shaped deerhound over a good-shaped animal more on 

 the old rough Scotch greyhound order. 



Greyhounds.— A dog which first, last and all the time 

 must indicate the highest order of speed. Equality in this 

 respect then gives play for fancy points. 



Pointers and Setters.— Where dog shows are yet unknown 

 these are called "bird dogs," and they do their work irre- 

 spective of standards. The better shaped the dog is, on 

 speed lines, the more certain is he to travel with greater 

 ease to himself and therefore runs the longer, but speed 

 without the ability to do the particular work required of 

 them is only so much the greater drawback. The fact that 

 so many good field dogs are no use for showing does not 

 prove that show dogs are no use in the field, but that the 

 points on which much stress is laid in shows are many of 

 them non-essentials for practical work. 



Spaniels.— 1 had the task set me at Buffalo of awarding a 

 prize for the best team of working spaniels. I declined to 

 undertake to say iu a show ring which were the better work- 

 ing dogs. Mr. John Davidson and Mr. Mason were then 

 harnessed double to the task. Mr. Davidson said the longer- 

 legged dogs were the ones he would take for choice if he 

 were going shooting. I didn't see him when he made this 

 announcement, but I will undertake to say that he put his 

 left hand in the left-hand pocket of his coat, stuck his right 

 into its buttoned-up front, and looked at Mr. Mason as much 

 as to say, "That settles it." Mr. Mason then whispered in 

 a loud tone of voice into Mr. Davidson's right ear, "We must 

 admit that these fellows who drew up the standard knew 

 what kind of a dog they wanted for the work required, and 

 a working dog must therefore be one that comes nearest the 

 standard." There they stuck, and Mr. Tom Aldrich, when 

 he was called into the ring to decide the point, shook his 

 head and said they couldn't prove anything about spaniels 

 by him; he knew, but the momentous secret was too precious 

 to give away. These are the points, and I need say no more. 



Collies.— Wanted, a dog to run after sheep and to keep to 

 his work for a long time and in any sort of weather. This 

 calls for a good-shaped dog— not too large or heavy— a dog 

 with good shouklers.good action and freedom, and possessing 

 a weather-resisting coat. The head properties, the ear (size 

 and carriage), mane, frill and carriage of tail are all "fancy." 

 That well-bred collies are not all lunkheads I can demon- 

 strate^ to any one's satisfaction. Glenlivat, the best dog 

 ever bred m this country, was a natural worker, and was 

 used at the Philadelphia drove yards up to a day or two of 

 his oeing sent to the Buffalo show last year. Kenilworth 

 third prize winner at Buffalo last September, is reckoned to 

 be about the best dog now used about the drove yards In fact 

 so much does Charley Battery think of him, that lie won t 



workman. Their points are nearly all arbitrary, as I think 

 every one will admit without discussion, and toys need not 

 be touched upon in consideration of practical points. 



J as. Watson. 



Philadelphia, Nov. 20. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



I thought I would awaken "Porcupine." He has been so 

 concerned of late with affairs most unworthy of him, that 

 he needed some such sting as a dig at "fancy" to bring him 

 back to verdant pastures. Eunny how it is, that although 

 Mr. Watson is the freest from "fancy" in judging any breed 

 that I know anything of, he should perpetrate the absurdity 

 he repeats as to the collie's head, I am lull as willing to take 

 it as he states it now, as the way I put it. It is sufficient to 

 prove my case vs. "fancy" to have the statement that a 

 ma jority of dogs are not <r typical" in their maturity. It is 

 a complete admission that true "type" is not the thing 

 wanted, but a fancier's ideal, and it is just this unnatural 

 trick of fancy in putting up a creation of notion as a char- 

 acteristic of a breed that awakens my wrath at her antics. 

 Harking back, perhaps, I may now reveal that it was at my 

 urgent request that mastiffs were assigned to Mr. Watson 

 at the Buffalo show. Uncle Dick wanted a good judge who 

 wasn't too devoted to "fancy," and I told him that there 

 was only one— Mr. Watson. (Lest Mr, Mason might prop- 

 erly hurl "delicacy" at me, I would explain that I was dead 

 sure that neither Baldur, Elgiva or Cambria could be in 

 shape to stand any chance of winning, and it was nine to 

 one that Emma would not arrive from England in time.) 



But to the purpose; Mr. Watson falls iuto the same error 

 as Mr. Curt Rice (of course Mr. W. couldn't express himself 

 the same way). My repeated breeding to Orlando does not 

 in any way antagonize my radical objections to the dog him- 

 self as a specimen. In tlie first, place I bred a bitch to him 

 so strong in his weak points that she minimized the risk 

 of perpetuation of them; but still more, Orlando was an 

 exception among dogs in that he did not perpetuate his 

 faults in his get. Only when he was bred to his own 

 daughter did he beget his beastly straight hocks and pre- 

 posterous head, while he did give his general substance and 

 volume of skull. I have bred his daughter to his best son, 

 and so far the pups promise as good hocks as their dam, but 

 I must confess I am not delighted with the degree of snub 

 nose they are threatened with. I think breeders most com- 

 monly mistake on this point; they are not careful enough to 

 note just what the effect of the stud dog has been in elimi- 

 nating the defects or increasing the merits of certain bitches. 

 On this ground I claim that no stud dog ever achieved the 

 success that Lord Raglan did when he got Sears' Monarch; 

 he completely swamped the glaring defects of his dam, and 

 got better than himself and the dam combined. 



No, no, Mr. Watson; it was not Ilford Caution that I had 

 in mind, but Crown Prince, This dog was bepraised to the 

 skies, while directly contradicting the standard his very 

 judges and conimenders themselves set up, and the absurd- 

 ity of "fancy" was most completely shown in that his hor- 

 ribly straight hocks and very undershot muzzle (directly 

 opposite to the standard) were not held as great objection 

 as his Dudley front, a purely "fancy" point. In fact I had 

 heard his brown markings deplored time and again before 

 I found out he was such a contradiction to the requirements 

 of the standard in hocks and muzzle. Again, no, no, my 

 friend; most mastiffs are big yellow dogs, but they are and 

 always have been short and broad-headed dogs, but I do 

 kick most vigorously when "fancy" condones any amount 

 ot bodily or leggy defects on account of extra and unreas- 

 onable shortness of muzzle; "short" is not the "shortest 

 possible" by a very long chalk. The longest-faced mastiff 

 you ever saw was "short" in comparison with a greyhound 

 or your pet collie type. There is no reasonable objection to 

 breeding mastiffs even twice as short-faced as the best are 

 now. It is entirely a matter of taste and opinion, but it is 

 the rankest of rot to say that this abnormal shortness atones 

 for glaring bodily defects. 



Are all (or even many) mastiffs purely "fancy" animals? 

 •Just you wait young man, wait until you live without a 

 house in sight of yours and can go away, leaving nobody 

 but the wife at home, and feel as safe as though you had a 

 policeman on guard. Do you remember how old Gipsey 

 bristled up and growled at you when you undertook to 

 scrape some scurf off Europa with a knife? Well, you will 

 admit that she wasn't "fancy," but I can tell you that Wa- 

 couta Persephone, Wacouta Rose (granddaughters of Crown 

 PrineeJ Ilford Cambria (C. P.'s own daughter) or Winifred, 

 the grand-daughter of Rajah, would have been just as quick 

 to do the same thing. It is so inherent in mastiffs that even 

 the doubly-cursed poison of "fancy" hasn't succeeded in 

 getting it' out of their blood. How soon it will is another 

 question. 



No, sir! I do not admit that fanciers have made dogs 

 more symmetrical in their appearance. Compare the pho- 

 tos of Colonel or Turk, the "long-faced lurchers," with 

 those of Crown Prince or Orlando, and it is Hyperion to a 

 Satyr. Do you yourself say that the ridiculous animal 

 recently figured in the Stock-Keeper as a spaniel is as hand- 

 some as the figures of grace, activity and beauty that used 

 to be drawn for spaniels? Where are you going to fiud your 

 collie that is as handsome as the pictures in Vero Shaw, 

 "Dogs of the British Islands," or "British Dogs?" Doubt- 

 less the modern pets are the better "specimens," but not as 

 beautiful by a lougshot. Finally, the very judge I have been 

 begging for, and the very principles I have insisted on, are 

 what Mr. Watson sets forth apropos of his own Buffalo 

 judging. W. Wade. 



Hulton, Pa., Nov. IV. 



" OUR PRIZE DOGS." 



poultry or anything else. Glenlivat's puppies 

 ter he had, were all natural workers. I simply say that to 

 show that while good looks and work are not always found 

 together, it is not necessary to divorce them all the time 

 +™!P? rs, ": lhe l se:may *? e -lumped together. The working 

 terrier is not a show terrier, but the show terrier may be a 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



A friend whose advice in dog matters I most highly value 

 once said to me, "Read everything that Charles' Mason 

 Avrites." It followed that I must have "Our Prize Dogs," 

 and now that I have it I realize more than ever the value of 

 my friend's advice. 



1 have never had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Mason, but 

 my admiration for the thorough, undoubted and manly 

 honesty which pervades his writings as well as his extra- 

 ordinary gifts as a critic is so nearly akin to enthusiasm 

 that I cannot help giving expression to it in these lines. I 

 do not pretend to judge of the value of the book in its 

 entirety, but I have reached my favorable opinion of it by an 

 induction. I turned to my favorite breed of dogs, one almost 

 unknown in America, and found that the four prize winning 

 specimens of 1887, all of which I have seen and studied, were 

 criticised with an accuracy and minuteness that was aston- 

 ishing. If this may be taken as a sample of what the book 

 is, and if I may estimate ex pede Herculem, truly the work 

 is a wonderful monument of industry and ability. 



Mr. Mason's method of leading up by details to his ver- 

 dicts and thereby, if not actually proving them, at least mak- 

 ing them as susceptible of proof as is possible in such mat- 

 ters, seems to me to be a great step in the right direction. It 

 will enable thinking people to take more interest in well 

 bred dogs. In this book we have the theoretical standard 

 of points applied to flesh and blood animals, and the often 

 incomprehensible decisions in the ring flooded with 

 light. 



I consider the volume to be a mine of golden information 

 to the American dog breeder, and if not actually his vade 

 mecum, certainly a sine qua non, W, H. Russell. 



Dickinson Centre, Franklin County, N. Y. 



CONNECTICUT CLUB— A regular meeting of the Con- 

 necticut State Kennel Club will be held at Atlantic Hotel, 

 Bridgeport, Monday evening, Dec. 3. As we wish to claim 

 dates for our bench show, we should like to have every 

 member attend who possibly can.— Dr. Jas. E. Hair, Sec. 



KENNEL NOTES. 



Notes mnit be sent on prepared blanks, which are fur- 

 nished free on receipt of stamped and addressed envelope 

 of large letter size. Sets of 300 of any one form, bound for 

 retaining duplicates, are sent for 30 cents. 



NAMES CLAIMED. 

 UglF" Notes must be sent on the Prepared Blanks. 



Daisy G. Bv Mount Waite Kennels, South Franiinghara, Mass., 

 for black and white cocker spaniel bitch, whelped Dec. 27, 1887, 

 bv Jet (Wilrlair— Bird) out of Beauty ( Brag— Daisy C). 



Bob Lee, Monnle, Jollcy's Tom ami Sue. The dog Thorn, in pedi- 

 gree of tlie.se dogs (in Names Claimed, Nov. 15), was incorrectly 

 given as Thorn. 



Gordon. By J. D. Sperry, Iowa City, la., for all dogs of that 

 blood of his breeding, as a suffix. 



BRED. 



ESP - Notes must be sent on the Prepared Blanks. 



Josephine— Snoioflight. A. Q. Riddle's (Mt. Sterling, Ky.) grey- 

 hound hitch Josephine (Sport ) to Rockwood Kennels' 



Snowflight, Nov. 10. 



Allie Bunt—SnowMight. bee Steadman's (Lexington, Ky.) grey- 

 hound bitch Allic Hunt (Custer ) to Rockwood Kennels' 



Snowflight, Nov. 12. 



Behu— Mission. Don Piatt's (West Liberty, O.) mastiff bitch 

 Behu to J. M. Harner's Mission (A.K.R, 5012), Nov. 10. 



Gypscy—Tnm Thumh. Dr. F. A. Smith's (Lehighton, Pa.) pug 

 bitch GVpsev to G. W. Fisher's Tom Thumb (Boggle— Darkey). 



Alpine— Merchant Prince. Dr. Geo. W. Sawtelle's (Maiden, 

 Mass.) St. Bernard bitch Alpine (Bayard, Jr.— Sappho) to Chas.G. 

 Wheeloek's Merchant Prince (champion Merchant Prince— cham- 

 pion Miranda), Nov. 22. 



Jet Oho— Black Pete, H. D. Brown's (Waterbury, \ t.) cocker 

 spaniel bitch Jet Obo (A.K.R. 4810) to J. P. WiUey's Black Pete 

 (A.K.R, 3071), May 18. 



Ladv Mada6—Bc0y Obo. H. D. Brown's (Vv aterbury, Vt.) cocker 

 spaniel bitch Lady Madge (A.K.R. 5293) to J. P. WiUey's Baby Obo 

 (Obo II. ), July 25. 



Phyllis— Black Pete, H. D. Brown's (Waterbury, Vt.) cocker 

 Hpan'iol bitch Phyllis (A.K.R. 5293) to J. P. WiUey's Black Pete 

 (A.K.R. 3071), Sept. 18. ^ ^ 



niitw G.—SanChoQ, Mount Waite Kennels' (South Frammg- 

 hani, .Mas;-, ) cocker spaniel hitch Daisy G. (Jet— Beauty) to their 

 Sancho G. (A.K.R. 0506), Nov. 20. 



WHELPS. 



fSW Notes must be sent on the Prepared Blanks. 



Fancy Maida. Crystal Springs Kennels' (Duanesburgh, N. Y.) 

 collie bitch Fancy Maida (Logan— Fantilla), Nov. 11, nine (two 

 dogs), by Dr. Cloud (Clyde Ltd. —Cloud's Beauty). 



Portia II. Jacob M. Harner's (West Liberty, O.) mastiff bitch 

 Portia II. L\.K.R. 5512), Nov. 10, six (two dogs), by bis Mission 



' frffl-la-Zflti Geo. W. Fisher's (Catawissa, Pa.) pug bitch Tra-la-la 

 (champion Young Toby— Tantrums), Oct. 10, live, by champion 

 Max; all since dead. , . „ , „ , 



Fairy U. Fairy Pug Kennels' (C ilumbus, O.) pug bitch Fain' 

 II. (A.K.R. 0554), Nov. 8, six (four dogs), by A. E. Pitts's Kash (A.K. 



' Carrie, F. C. Rochester's (Logan, O.) pointer bitch Carrie tSeit- 

 ner'a Lort— champion Lady Croxteth), Nov. 19, ten (seven dogs), by 

 J D Havnie's Meteor II. (champion Meteor— Beulah). 



IVrmi'i Brvn Mawr Kennels' (Philadelphia, Pa.) pointer bitch 

 Verona (Da v'S Prince- Vaudalia), Nov. 3, six (four dogs), by their 

 Baug (Price's champion Bang— Salter's Luna). 



Hams. H. D. Brown's (Waterbury, Vt.) cocker spaniel bitch 

 Phvilis (A.K.R. 5293), Nov. 20, six (thiee dogs), by J. P. WiUey's 

 Black Pete. (A.K.R. 3071). , < , 



Jet Oho. H. D. Brown's (Waterbury, \ I.) cocker spaniel bitch 

 Jet Obo (A K.R. 4810), July 20, nine (four dogs), by J. P. WiUey's 

 Black Pete (A.K.R. 3071). . k _ 



Lady Mo dye. H. D. Brown's (Waterbury, Vt.) cocker spaniel 

 hitch Lady Madge (A.K.R. 6393), Sept. 20, four (one dog), by J. P. 

 Willev's Baby Oho (Obo TI. ). 



AhVi/. F. K- McOuire.'s (Bangor, Me.) Yorkshire terrier hitch 

 Daisv," Nov. 3, three dogs, by P. Jl. Coombs's Bradford Harry 

 (Crawshaw's Bruce— Beale's Lady). 



SALES. 



fpgr Notes must be sent on the Prepared Blanks. 



Tlie Gypsey. White, black and tan beagle bitch, whelped March 

 25, 1887, by champion Cameron's Racket _out of Marjory, by Geo. 

 H. Hill, Madeira. O., to F. C. Rochester. Logau, O. 



Roscne (A.K.R. 0520)— Minnie (A.K.R. 6029) whelp. Black, tan 

 and white collie dog, whelned Aug. 30, 1888, by F. C. Smith, Gro- 

 ton, N. Y., to M. C. Howe, same place. 



Fleet View Queen. Liver and white pointer hitch, whelped July 

 24. 1888, bv Spot Dash out of Belle Randolph, by Fleet View Pointer 

 Kennels, Lynn, Mass., to J. D. Nichols, same place, 



Kitchen Girl. Pug bitch, whelped Aug. 28, 1888, by Douglass II. 

 out of Rose, by Geo. W. Fisher, Catawisea, Pa., to G. AV. Wain- 

 bach, Baltimore, Md. 



Little Girl. Pug bitch, whelped Aug. 28, 1888, hy Douglass II. 

 out of Hose, by Geo. W. Fisher, Catawissa, Pa., to E. E. Parnell, 

 Spencer, la. 



Hayseed. Pug dog, whelped Aug. 28, 1888, hy Douglass II. out of 

 Rose, by Geo. W. Fisher, Catawissa, Pa., to Al G. Eberhardt, Cin- 

 cinnatii O. 



Zip. Gordon setter dog, age and pedigree not given, by Jos. M. 

 Rowell, 2d, Citra, Fia„ to John F. Williams, Lynn, Mass. 



KENNEL MANAGEMENT. 



No Notice Taken ot Anonymous Correspondents. 



J. B. F., Elizabeth City, N. C— 1 have a fine pup. He hunts and 

 stands well, but the day after the hunt he is very lame in his 

 right forefoot; it seems to swell ana loot larger than his other 

 feet. What treatment would you recommend? Age 18 months, 

 and good size, and splendid appetite. Ans. Get some chloroform 

 linament and rub it into the affected part morning and evening. 

 It is either rheumatic or the result of strain or sprain. 



boating. 



RANGE AND GALLERY. 



SAN FRANCISCO, Nov. 18.— The shooting matches at Shell 

 Mound Park yesterday were well attended by the ambitious 

 marksmen of the many rifle clubs of the city. Captain Siebe, the 

 proprietor of the park, had a Hock of plump turkeys on the grounds 

 to be competed for. The San Francisco Schuotzen Verein were on 

 hand to compete for the yearly medals. The club is composed of 

 the leading German marksmen, and their friendly rivalry in the 

 contests is always marked by a convivial banquet, which is usu- 

 ally tendered to the winner. The happy man to-day was H. A. 

 Kurlflnke, who has defended his prize iu the second class against 

 all comers for the past year, and is now the permanent owner of 

 the trophy. The scores as shown in the following list are very 

 good: San Franoisco Schuetzeu Veroin— First-class medal, Wil- 

 liam Ehrenfort, 383 rings; second-class medal, H. A. Kurlflnke, 365 

 rings; third-class medal, F. W. Attiarius, 377 rings; fourth-class 

 medal, L. Bendell, 380 rings. The match pool shot between D. F. 

 Roulter and A. Johnson was won by Johnson, with the unusually 

 heavy score of 87. Swiss Rifle Club of Oakland: 



WMarlgnoni 4 5 5 4 5-23 G Gilardi 4 5 4 5 4-23 



P Pellunde .3 5 4 4 5-21 L Gilardi 4 3 4 3 4—19 



P O Mauri 4 4 4 4 4-20 G Pelunde 3 5 3 4 4-19 



WMarlignoni 4 3 5 5 5-22 



Company F, 1st Infantry: 



500vds. 200yds. 



H L Pendleton 454.-i55.5544— 46 5444444154—42 



RB Kittridge 4455445335—42 3445444424 -38 



Loughery 4453444434—39 5444344433—38 



Company F, 5th Infantry, monthly medal shooting: Corporal 

 Cobbledick 41, Corporal Wethern 40, Parsons 37, Lieutenant Hayes 

 38, .Cobbledick 37, Morrison 37, Terrill 36,' Bangle 35, Short 35, 

 Brewer 30, Hunt 28. The grand turkey and pig shoot, the prizes 

 provided by Captain Siebe, will take place next Sunday. 



