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FOREST AND STREAM, 



[Deo. 12, 1889- 



TORONTO. Dec. 4.— A contest took place at the Woodbine to-day 

 between the trap-shooters of the eastern section of the city and 

 the trap-shnoters nf 1he western section. Yonge street being the 

 dividing line. Mr. George H. Briggs, the promoter and originator 

 of the mafcK captained the west end Team, and Aid. O. C. Small 

 the east. end. The weather, though oold, was well suited for 

 shooting, and the result was a contest of intense interest, on the 

 issue of which considerable money depended. The birds were 

 decidedly lively, and compelled a steady hand and a watchful 

 eye. Mr. W, Pearson, fo ' the winners, did some excellent shoot- 

 ing, bringing down his ten straight, and only twice using his 

 second barrel. Messrs. Ellis and Sawdon also grassed their birds 

 Straight, while Messrs. Townson, McDowall, Wright, Beldan and 

 Parker were each unlucky enough to miss a teaser. For the 

 losers Mr. Rice killed his ten in good sportsmanlike style, and 

 Jeff Word en wounded one that got away that might have tied the 

 score. Messrs. Bugsr, Staneland, Barrett and Clark also each 

 missed a single that might have been dropped, but wasn't, and 

 that might have turned the scale, hut didn't. The captain of the 

 west-enders has. however, this much satisfaction, that he outshot 

 the leader of the other band, and that had the result depended 

 upon him alone he would have won. As it is, the westerners 

 have to pay for two barrels of the best flour for the Boys' and 

 Girls' Home. Mr. Joseph Taylor was the referee, and neither 

 sound nor murmur was heard at. anything he said. Following 

 are the scores: 



Teams of 14 at 10 birds each, 26yds. rise, Bast Toronto vs. West 

 Toronto, Toronto Gun Club rules to govern: 



East End. 



pparson 10 



Ellis 10 



Sawdon 10 



Townson 9 



Parker 9 



McDowall 9 



Wright 9 



Belden 9 



Smith 8 



Ayre 7 



Armstrong 6 



Jones 6 



Andrews 5 



West End. 



Rice 10 



"W orden. 9 



Staneland 9 



Bugg 9 



Barrett 9 



Clark 9 



Loudon 8 



Wakefield 8 



Purse 8 



Sinclair, Jr 8 



Sinclair, Sr. 



Blea... 



6 

 6 



4-110 



Small 4— 111 Maugban 



Dec. //.—The Stanley Guu Club held its sixteenth fortnightly 

 shoot fur the president's gold watch at McDowell's grounds this 

 afternoon. The day w;is delightful, and a large number of sports- 

 men were present. Several good scores were made, but Mr. 

 Emoncl went to the front in grand st le, scoring 23 out 25, which 

 gave him the handsome gold watch as his person--)! property. Mr. 

 Emond shot a 10-bore Greener hammerless, using SJ^drs. of Hamil- 

 ton trap powder, and 1%oz. of No. 7 shot. His handicap was 28yds. 

 from the traps. A number of sparrow shoots were also shot. 

 These are the scores; watch shoot, handicao from 15vds. to 28jds.: 



Emond (28) 22 Bayles (18) 18 Mallett (23) 11 



Beat ty (19) 21 Dralsy (22) 1(3 McDowall (32) 11 



Carruthers (19)... .20 T Sawaou, Jr (24). .11 Harristsn (18) 3 



T Sawdon, Sr (24).. 19 

 The following are the scores of the former winners: 



Wrn McDowell. ...19 T Sawdon, Jr 19 Charts 19 



J Wells 20 SMcClure... 18 F Emond 23 



W Felstead 23 Charts 23 F Emond 22 



T Sawdon, Jr 22 T Sawdon, Jr 18 Charts 19 



F Mallett 21 T Sawdon, Sr 17 Draisy 18 



The winners of the sweeps, which were at 10 sparrows, were: 

 First sweep: 



Pickering 9 Smith 7 Heatherington 4 



Peterson 9 Daisy 5 Orr 4 



Pickering and Peterson div. first and second. 



Second sweep: 



Emond 8 Pickering ti Smith 5 



James 8 Winchell 5 



Emond and James div. first and second. 



Third sweep: 



George 8 James 7 McDowall 6 



Emond 7 Cook 6 Wright 5 



Pickering 7 Jones 6 Phillips...; 4 



Tracey 7 



NEW HAT ION, Conn., Dec. 6.— Regular shoot of the Elm City 

 Guu Club. The day was very windy and not favorable for large 

 scores, nevertheless some fair shooting was witnessed. On New 

 Year's day we will give an all-day shoot, which all are cordially 

 invited to attend. 



Event No. 1, match at tongueless bats, three Keystone traps, 15 

 and 18yds. rise: 



Bates 111111-0 Hill 011011—4 



Gould 111111-6 Whitney 011110-4 



Or tseif er 1 L1110— 5 Bristol 111001—4 



Tyler 11H01-5 



Event No. 2, same conditions: 



Ortseifer 111111—6 Whitney 111011—5 



Bates 111111—6 Bristol 1 11011—5 



Tvler . 111111 -6 Gould 110110-4 



Hill 011111-5 Sackett 000010-1 



Event No. 3. match at tongueless bats, three Keystone traps, 16 

 and 18yds. rise, 6 singles a^d 2 pairs, 50 cents durance: 

 Bates llllll 11 10-9 Bristol 111010 



Whitney 0101 11 11 11-8 Gould 



Ortseifer 011011 11 11—8 Sackett.... 



Tyler 101010 11 11—7 Hill 



Event No. 4, 12 birds, Hurlnigham rules: 



Gould - . .111111111111- 13 Bristol 



Bates 111111011111-11 Hill 



Tyler ..111011111110-10 Ortseifer. . . 



Whitney 111011111011—10 Sackett 



....110011 

 ..000010 

 - .010001 



01 11-7 



10 11-7 



11 11—5 

 10 01—4 



001111011111- 9 



oin ioi hod:— 9 



onmoiooii- 8 



.001011011111— 8 



Event No. 5, 7 tongueless bats S(raightaway, 3 Keystone traps 

 21jds. tise: 



Ortseifer 1111111-7 Bristol 0111111 -6 



Tyler 11U111-7 Bates 1111011—6 



Sacket Ill 1111-7 HilT. 1101101—5 



Gould 1110111-6 Whitney 1101000-3 



Event No. 6, 5 pairs: 



Ortseifer 11 11 11 11 11—10 Bates 10 11 01 10 11-7 



Tyler 11 10 11 01 11- 8 Gould 10 11 11 10 00 -6 



"Whitney 13 10 10 11 11— 8 Hill 00 11 10 11 10—6 



Bristol ..- 11 10 10 11 11- 8 Sackett 00 10 10 10 11—5 



Event No. 7, 6 singles and 2 pairs tongueless bats, 3 Keystone 

 traps, 16 and 18 yds. rise: 



Whitney llllll 11 11—10 Ortseifer 011111 01 10—7 



Bristol llllll 1111-10 Bates 001111 1111—8 



Tyler llllll 11 10- 9 mil 100111 01 00-6 



Gould OJllll 11 11- 9 



Event No. 8, 13 buds, 21yns., use of one barrel: 



Ortseifer . .1 1111111 Hll-12 Tyler .011011111111-10 



Gould llllll I '1111— 13 Bristol .. ..lilOllOUOll— 9 



Eaten . .111111111110-11 mil 011O010HO11— 7 



Whitney loliMl] 111-11 



IKWi N VS. VAN C VMP. -To-day at Holt's farm at Wilburtha, 

 N. J.. Irwm and Van Camp, noted trap shots, had a close run of 

 it. Van Camp is prominent among the very best of the local 

 shots at Trenton, while irwm is equally well known to the sports- 

 men of Philadelphia as an expert with the breechloader. The 

 shooting was done in a large pasture field. The weather was cold 

 —the coldest of the season. This with a raw easterly wind made 

 things quite unpleasant for the spectators, of whom there were 

 some 200. Scouts fired recklessly in all din ctions and no less than 

 four spectators were shot. William Ferry was struck, in the chin, 

 J. Grigg caught it in the lip, while one unhappy individual caught 

 it on the jaw bone and chin. Still another got a grazed cheek. 

 As all these wounds bled freely the looks of the men can be im- 

 agined, rhe match began promptly at 10:30 o'clock and was 

 rapidly shot to a conclusion. The match was for $100 aside, 35 

 pigeons each man, Hurlingham rules to govern. The boundaries 

 were staked out by pegs driven in the ground and a while cord 

 run from peg to peg until the 80yds. circle was thus marked out. 

 The rise for both men was 80yds. The rear line was some 15yds. 

 back of the contestants, and a post and rail fence defined it 

 clearly. Van Camp won the toss and decided to shoot first. 



R Irwin. 1011011211220:; 1 2 1 0233 1 2312031232030-28 



C Van Camp 20222121 1111312200320120012212221112 -27 



Tne pigeons were a singular lot. Of strong muscles and quick 

 of wing when started, they were so slow in getting off as to be 

 wearisome to both contestants and onlookers. Ouce up, how- 

 ever, they went like bullets and taxed the shooting power of hotn 

 men to the uttermost. Van Carra missed with his first barrel 

 many times, but was singularly effective in the use of his second. 

 Irwm shot, a clean ram;, and never lost the advantage he secured 

 at an early stage of the match. 



THEY THINK THEY HAVE THE RECORD.-Crown Point, 

 ltd., Dec. 4. -Editor Forest and Stream: The Crown Point Gun 



2o0 English sparrows. We have a curiosity to know if there are 

 any country clubs that con "knock out" our score on the number 

 of lr.aninaates usid since the above date. We feel like challeng- 

 ing any club of ten men lor §100 that can beat our record.— H. 

 Mabble, Pres. C. P. G. C. 



MONTREAL, Dec. 1.— The first big handicap shoot of the season 

 was held on the Athletic club house grounds yesterday afternoon, 

 and was in every way a big success. It was the inaueural winter 

 event of the Montreal Gun Club, and was also the first of the 

 Montreal Gun Club, and was also the first of the club's series of 

 three open handicaps, the remaining two of which will be shot off 

 Dec. 14 and 28. As the prizes offered are costlv and handsome, 

 viz-: first, a canoe, value $125; second, a silver cup, value $25; 

 third, gold medal, value $15, much interest had been excited 

 among patrons of the gun, and as a consequence the number of 

 competitors and spectators at the first match of the series was 

 very large. The weather, though slightly cold, was otherwise de- 

 lightful, making the drive out fo the clubhouse behind the moun- 

 tain most enjoyable. The light at the traps was also excellent, 

 and consequently, notwithstanding the cold, the shooting was 

 above the average. Of the thirty-two who had entered for the 

 match, twenty-five put in an appearance at the traps; among 

 whom will .be seen the best shots of Montreal. The shoot was 

 under the conditions of the Montreal Gun Club, 20 birds, 18yds. 

 rise. The following is the result of the shoot, the handicap num- 

 ber of birds following the name of each competitor, these handi- 

 caps being in every case included in the number of kills: 



L Thackwell (2) 01111111111101111111—20 



A Boa (5) lOOmOlOOOlllOlOlll— 17 



J McLaren (6) 1 01 lOinjOlllOili 00011 17 



J Redmond (2) 11010101110111101111-17 



j Paton (3) mmoiooioioimio-17 



R James (3) 1101100111111101000]— 16 



d G Hadley (3) 00 1 1 111 1011010011011— 16 



WGOleghorn (6) O000ll0mil00100l0l-16 



J Randolph (6) 01001000101911001011-15 



J Hutchison (6) OH1010010000010001]— 15 



F Taylor (1) OOlOOOOllllOllOOim-15 



W Henry (Scratch) 11010111111011010111—15 



D Robertson (2) ] 0 j ] 00 1 1 01 1 1 1 1100010 — 1 4 



J Campbell (5) 0010110000011010101 1—14 



JIngraham (2) 11000001111111001101—14 



J Alexander (•») , 01001110001110001100-13 



A Brault (5) 01 000111 1 001 00001010-13 



J G Rosshire (6) 00000101011001001000-12 



W Robertson (2) OlOOOOlnOOlOl 1111001—11 



L Sharp (5) 00100100100010001100-11 



FTrunsdule (2) 10001 1010001)0100100— 10 



F Octave (2) miOOOlOOOOOOOOUlO 10 



B Cooper (2) 0111 00101 0100 1 00100 J -10 



W Barton (6) 00OOO0C000 1 001000000— 8 



J Smith (5) Withdrawn. 



The New Haven Gun Club will hold a tournament on Christmas 

 Day, to which all are invited.— C. B. Buisf ou, Pres. 



TOWANDA, PA— There will be a New Year's trap shooting 

 tournament, at Towauda, Pa., under auspices of Towanda Rod 

 and Gun Club, Wednesday, Jan. 1, 1890. Open to all comers. 

 Prizes consisting of bags of shot, loaded shells, primers, wads, 

 etc., will be competed for, also sweepstakes. Commencing at 9 

 A. M., and continuing throughout the day. All communications 

 will receive prompt attention by addressing W. F. Dittrich, Sec'y. 



Every week we are obliged to defer to the next 

 week trap scores which come in too late for pub- 

 lication in the current issue. It Is particularly re- 

 quested that scores be sent us as early as possible. 



"West Tndto Hurricanes and Vie Great March Blizzard ." Tin 

 Everett Hoyden, U. S. Hydrogra.phtc Office. Large quarto, ivtth $8 

 lithographic plates. Price $1. Contains full history of the great 

 storm of March, 1888, with practical information how h) handle, a 

 vessel in a cyclone; use of oil at sea, etc. 



A 



THE CHANGES IN THE RACING RULES. 



T a meeting on Dec. 4 the following report was presented to 

 the Eastern Y. 0.: 

 To the Eastern Yacht Clulr. 



The undersigned committee of the club, appointed to report on 

 any changes which may seem desirable in the sailing regulations, 

 begs to call your attention to the changes of measurement and 

 classification now under the consideration of the New York and 

 Seawanhaka Y. C.'s. 



Reports by special committees have been made to these clubs 

 advocating the adoption of a classification ba=ed on racing meas- 

 urement instead of the present classes limited by waterline length. 

 It is also proposed that the New York Y. O. shall adopt the Sea- 

 wanhaka formula for rating in place of its present formula. 



It is, of course, of the greatest importance for the development 

 of yaeht racing in this country that the leading duos should have 

 similar rules of measurement and classification, so that yachts 

 built by members of one club may not be practically debarred 

 from racing under the rules of another club. Your committee 

 supposes that the object sought by American yachtsmen in wish- 

 ing to impose a greater tax on sail is simply to prevent the pro- 

 duction of enormous rigs, such as we have seen in some recent, 

 boats in the smaller classes, and not to radically change the type 

 of American yachts; but your committee holds iho opinion that 

 the classification proposed by the New York committees taxes 

 sail so severely that its general adoption would produce a racing 

 yacht comparatively long and narrow, and would lead either to 

 the total extinction of centerbnard racing vachts, or else the de- 

 velopment of a dangerous and undesirable' craft of the "canoe" 

 type, thus going much further than what we have above supposed 

 to be the wish of American yachtsmen. 



In addition to this objection t hat the proposed rule will develop 

 an undesirable type ot hull, there is also the objection that any- 

 such severe tax on sail— at least as sail area is computed and 

 valued by amy present or ptv posed rule for its measurement— will 

 be an irresistible temptation to spoil the shape of good rigs in 

 order to obtain such sail plans as will yield the maximum effect 

 with the least sail, or, still worse, with the least sail measure- 

 ment. 



If, however, a classification on racing measurements under the 

 present New York Y. C. formula should be adopted, your com- 

 mittee, believes there is less reason to fear that the tax on sail 

 would be severe enough to confine racing to long and low-powered 

 yachts, and, although the objection on the score of danger of 

 badly-shaped rigs is not entirely removed, it will at least be 

 diminished, and your committee believes it quite clear that the 

 object above stated -preventing tEte production of over-sparred 

 yachts— will be accomplished bv such a classification. 



Your committee, therefore, suggests th it the following vote be 

 passed by the club: Voted, That the Eastern Y. C. is prepared to 

 adopt, in conjunction with our other leading clubs, a classification 

 based on the formula which places twice the value on waterline 

 length that it does on sail area. C. J. Paine, 



Augustus Hemenway, 

 C. H. jov, 



G. ti. RlCHABD, 

 EDWABD BuiiGESS. 



The committee give no reasons for their belief that the pro- 

 posed New York rule will produce lone and narrow craft, either 

 deep or narrow. Mr. Burgess lately conferred with the New 

 York Y. C. committee and suggested that it accent cor- 

 rected length by New York rule, a8 mentioned in the report. It 

 is of course essential that the rules of the New York, Seawan- 

 haka and Eastern clubs should not conflict, but at the same time 

 a rule that is bao in itself cannot be adopted merely for the sake 

 of uniformity. A meeting of the New York Y. C. wil be held to- 

 night, at which the several important Questions touched on in 

 the committee's report will be acted on. Tne first and most im- 

 portant is the basis of classification, whether it shall remain hs 

 now— the waterline length, or be changed to corrected length 

 The principle involved is an important one, and deserves to be 

 considered alone on its own merits, and not merelv in the light 

 of the effect on any one boat or class. Closely connected with it 

 is the particular formula which must accompany it, and which 

 exerts a controlling influence over the yachts to be built. In the 

 opinion ot the committee of the New York and Seawanhaka 

 clubs, and of many who have given thought to the subject the 

 present formula of the New York Y. C. will give little or no 

 chance for experiment, and will do little to restrict the growth of 

 sails; while on the other hand the proportions of the Seawanhaka 

 formula are better in both respects, and at the same time offer no 

 inducements to extremely narrow boats. Besidse these two ques- 

 tions there is the division of the classes, a very difficult matter, 

 but one that should not stand in the way of the adoption of the 

 new rule if it be considered desirable in other ways. Some diffi- 

 culties must be looked for in any marked change of rule, and 

 tho?e attending the divisions of the new classes can probably be 

 adjusted to suit all interested. As the largest of the three clubs 



concerned, the action of the New York Y. C. is of special impor- 

 tance, and will undoubtedly have a great influence on a number 

 of other clubs. A rule, if adopted at all, should be made for a 

 period of fi>e years at least, in order to test it fully, and the idea 

 that Eome have of a lopping corrected length bv a series of small 

 bites, first by the New York formula, then by the Seawanhaka, 

 and then perhaps by another, is utterly impractical. Any good 

 rule adopted now by the New York Y. C. will in all probability 

 be very generally adopted by the leading clubs; bur an attempt 

 to try a rule for a little while and then perhaps to change it again 

 shows a lack of self-confidence that will deter others from fol- 

 lowing, 



A BRITISH 1 0-RATER. 



IT has been claimed by the opponents of the proposed new rules 

 in the New York and Seawanhaka Corinthian clubs that the 

 immediate result of the change would be to produce a very long 

 and narrow keel yaeht with small sail" that would drive out the 

 existing yachts, both keel and centerboard. Such figures and 

 statements as have been presented in support of this view have 

 been very indefinite and unsatisfactory, but still thev have carried 

 weight with some yachtsmen who have taken them on faith with- 

 out the trouble of a personal investigation. The ultima' e result 

 of this line of nrgument is a cur.ous sort of craft that has been 

 evolved chiefly from the inner conciousness of the opponents of 

 the new rules, and is held up by them as a sort of "bugaboo to 

 scare American yachtsmen. This phantom ship is long, narrow, 

 deep, with no deck room nor accommodation, costly to build, and 

 with all the disadvantages of the old tonnage rule cutters, while 

 at the same, time she is warranted to do what they did not, to out- 

 sail, with very small sails, all moderate American craft. Such 

 yachts are pictured as racing and winning now in Great Britain, 

 and as ready to up kilhck and cross the western ocean for fresh 

 prizes as soon as classification by corrected length is accepted by 

 the clubs here. 



In our issue of Nov. 21 we gave a list of the new British yachts, 

 with a description of the principal ones, and in a previous issue, 

 Aug. 8, was published the interior of a 20-rater. We now give, 

 through the kindness of Mr. Arthur K. Payne, of Southampton, 

 Eng., the sail and cabin plans of the must successful yacht yet 

 built under the new rules in Great Britain, the tO-r'ater Deciiha. 

 The dimensions of Deoima are: Length over all, 48ft. 6in.; J.w.l., 

 S5ft. Bin.; beam, 10ft.; draft., 8ft. Tne sail plan is interesting as 

 forming a basis of comparison between the British and American 

 methods of measurement, as alluded to in previous articles on 

 measurement. The plan is peculiar in one respect; the sail al- 

 lowed for the length is 1,680 q. ft. b? actual measurement from 

 the sail plan, except that all headsails are measured bv triangle 

 bounded by mast and headstay. In disposing of this amount of 

 canvas Mr. Payne has taken a comparatively large mainsail, a 

 small clubtopsail, and has thrown away entirely all jibtopsails 

 and the usual spinaker, using a spinaber as shown. I hat hoists to 

 the masthead only. In this way the area of the head triangle, 

 which would be 759sq. ft. if measured to hounds of topmast as 

 usual, is but496sq. ft., being measured to jihhalliard block only. 

 The official measurements of the sails are: 



Mainsail 9063q. ft. 



Clubtopsail 277sq. ft. 



Headsails... 490sq. ft. 



i,679sq, ft. 



With the whole head triaugle measured the area would be 

 1,942ft., or yPSft. more; so that if the jibtopsails and large spinaber 

 were to be carried, the base and height of the sail plan would 

 need to be reduced to give an area about 13 per cent, smaller than 

 that shown. 



The merits of this sail plan are still doubtful; in some cases in 

 which it has been tried it has not been an improvement; hut Mr. 

 Payne is of the opinion that Docima is faster than she would have 

 been with the usual distribution ot canvas. 



The measurement of the sail plan by the present Seawanhaka 

 rule gives an area of 1,760ft., while by the proposed method the 

 area would be 1,793ft,, or 88ft, greater. The Seawanhaka rule is 

 supposed to measure the headsails, mainsail, working or iib- 

 headed topsail; the area of the same sails by the Y. R A. method 

 would be 1,857 ft. This difference, 98ft. in the case of the present 

 method, arid 69ft. in the case of the proposed, shows that in this 

 sail plan at least the American measurement is nearly enough 

 correct for all practical purposes. 



As Decimais the direct offspring of a similar rule to that pro- 

 posed for the American clubs, and built too under conditions that 

 have heretofore oncou raged very narrow yachts; the fact that 

 she, the widest, has won against all comers, is conclusive proof 

 that the rule does not produce narrow yachts, and that it docs 

 produce yachts of moderate proportions and cost. 



There are so few racing craft of her length in American waters, 

 that the 30ft, class affords the best basis of comparison. The 

 largest yacht of this class is Kathleen, shorter by 5fb, sin., wider 

 by din. and with 4 to Oin. less draft. Her sail area is 2.045ft, by 

 Seawanhaka rule, compared with 1,769ft. for beeimahv tins same 

 rule. Kathleen's corrected length is 37.57ft., and Decima's is 

 39.03ft., so that under her present rig, but allowed to carry the 

 usual jibtopsails and spinaber, Deoima would allow Kathleen Im. 

 12s. over a 32-bnot course, the average distance sailed by these 

 yachts. YV hether Deeirna with this rig could allow Kathleen her 

 time must remain a matter of opinion; but all observation and 

 experience shows that speed cannot be had in ordinary facing 

 weather here with so small a proportion of sail, but 117 per eenl. 

 ofl.w.l. Judging from successful yachts of all types that have 

 raced in America, Decima's rig would need to be increased until 

 the square root of sail area was at least 135, if not 130 per cent, of 

 her waterline. The former figure would he practically putting 

 Kathleen's sail plan over the longer boat, with an increase in the 

 allowance from lm. 12s. to over- 3m. 



When it is considered that Decima, as she stauds, is about as 

 wide, as deep and with the same sail as the Burgess thirty, Tom- 

 boy, and at the same time nearly Oft. longer, it does not seem that 

 she could allow the shorter boat a couole of minutes or more and 

 yet beat her with the same sails, yet this is what the problem re- 

 duces itself to. If she can do this, then why is she not a better 

 boat, with i he same beam, far greater accommodation, and no 

 longer spars? If she cannot do it, but must increase uer sail and 

 her measurement considerably, in order to attain her maximum 

 speed under the conditions which maintain here, there is no 

 reason of being afraid of her. 



The faults of the present Sd-footers are very apparent, however 

 speedy they may be; they are lacking in room, tne Burgess boats 

 in particular. Kathleen is comparatively roomv, but at the ex- 

 pense of an extravagant rig, requiring 0 or 10 to race her. If 

 sailed here under her present rig. Decima. would iu all probability 

 be under-canvassed for ratine and would not be successful; but 

 if canvassed more nearly m proportion to Minerva and Pap.ioose 

 she would undoubtedly be vt»ry fast, Even then she would re- 

 quire a crew no larger than Kathleen's. 



The accommodation plan shows a rather peculiar arrangement, 

 one long cabin, with two permanent berths forward, with draw- 

 ers under, and i he solas and buffets aft, in place of the "ladies' 

 cabin" of Kathleen. The headroom under a flush deck is 6ft 

 8V*jin„ or about lft, greater than iu Kathl en. The extra length 

 gives a great advantage over the American thirties in two ways; 

 the forecastle is much longer and roomier, and a Kood space is 

 given besides for a toilet room on one side and a pantrv on the 

 other. Iu addition, the boat has a good cockpit and plenty of 

 space for sails. Comparing Decima briefly with the thirties, she 

 has the same breadth and even more available room on deck; her 

 stability is as great, she has betier accommodations below, boiJi 

 tor owner and crew, she requires no larger crew and costs no 

 more to i un, while her first cost is but little greater. 



Just as Decima has been the winning boat in the 10-rati'ng class, 

 so Lollypop and Humming Bud have won in the 5 and classes.' 

 both designed and built by Mr. Payne. Lollypop is 29ft. f.w.l., 9ft. 

 beam, and 7tt. draft, a handsome little Dluuib-stenimcd cutter 

 with pole mast and very moderate rig; whiln Humming Bird is 

 2Cft. l.w.l., 7ft. Oin. beam and 5ft. 8in. draft, with pole mast, single 

 jib, and a lug mainsail, with a yard on head in place of a guff. 

 Her stern is nearly square, and with her open cockpit aud cuddy 

 hatch she might readily be mistaken lor an Am. man boat. Mr. 

 Payne is now busy on a SO-rater which will meet Dragon and 

 Vreda next year, and as she is likely to be considerably wider 

 than either, the experiment will he a very important on- .' With 

 sucu yachts as tbrse built aud racing successlully in England to 

 tue practical exclusion of the oil narrow cutters, there are no 

 grounds for asserting that the same rule will produce very narrow 

 yachts in America. 



THE NEW RULE ON LAKE ONTARIO. -A very lively and 

 interesting controversy is now being carriei on in the Toronto 

 Mail over the measurement question, one writer, who boasts that 

 he never reads any yachting books or journals, attacking the new 

 rule and advocating a rating by sail area alone. The result has 

 been a number of letters fr m various yachtsmen defending the 

 new rule. The lake yachtsmen on both shores are all active and 

 pre giestive men, and the comments on the rule thus far show 

 that they know pretty elt&rly what thev want and when thev 

 have it. 



