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fly. Capt. came up, went in front of Rowdy, commenced 

 roading the runuing birds very fast, and flushed and broke 

 after them, but stopped to order in a few yards. On in a 

 weed field Capt. made a point on a single bird, Rowdy 

 backed and both dogs were steady to shot. They were then 

 worked for a tew bevy. On one of Rowdy's wide casts he 

 wheeled, stiffened up and ran for a hundred yards straight 

 as an arrow and dropped on a stvlish point. Avent went 

 in, and some 80yds. in front of him flushed one bird and 

 shot. Rowdy was stead y to shot. Ordered on Rowdy made 

 a short cast, and on his return a bird flushed wild down 

 wind, and he stopped to wing, and a few moments later the 

 remainder of a large bevy rose out of the cornfield near by. 

 As soon as Rowdy was ordered on he went straight to the 

 scattered birds and pointed them, but time was just up, and 

 the dog was ordered up without, the judges following lnra to 

 his last point. This was a capital heat for Rowdy, and he 

 was announced the winner of first money. 



After the beat had been decided the judges paid Rowdy a 

 high compliment bv saying.publicly, that after seeing him 

 run through both stakes, they consider him the highest 

 class field trial dog that they had ever seen run in a trial, 

 thus showing very plainly what an unintentional mistake 

 they made in deciding the heat in the Derby between Rowdy 

 Rod and Simonides, and placing a third rate dog over one 

 of the highest class dogs in America. Rowdy's record this 

 season is, first in Eastern Field Trials Derby, first in Cen- 

 tral Field Trials Setter Derby, second in Inter-State Field 

 Trials Derby, and first in Inter-State Field Trials All-Aged 

 Stake. 



Tics for Second Place. 



TENNESSEE CHARLEY AND GALENA 

 were selected to run together to see which should compete 

 with Capt. Bethel for second place. They were cast off in 

 an open cornfield at 3:25 and worked in open ground 

 throughout the heat. There was a vast difference between 

 the speed and range of this brace and the last brace run. 

 Neither dog showed much range nor speed in this heat, but 

 Charlev had a slight advantage. Charley made two points, 

 backed" well and was steady to shot and wing, while Galena 

 made, no points, several flushes and would not back. At the 

 end of 30m. Charley was declared the winner. 



CAPT. BETHEL AND TENNESSEE CHARLEY. 



After a short drive and a little rest this brace was cast off 

 to compete for second money. In this heat Capt. Bethel 

 did not go as fast nor range as wide as he had done with 

 Rowdy, but he showed good speed and range and had the 

 advantage in this respect. Charley went much better than 

 he did in the heat with Galena. Captain did some very bad 

 work by flushing a bevy and refusing to back and not get- 

 ting a point. Charley made two points, and at the end of 

 30m. be was announced the winner of second place. 



After a good long consultation the judges announced Capt. 

 Bethel, Chance and Fred Gates equal third. In this deci- 

 sion the judges placed Chance over Daisy's Hope, and she 

 had beaten Chance. Under the rules they had a right to do 

 this, but it shows very plainly that they were fully con- 

 vinced that in their 30 urinate hkaA they did not take time 

 enough to thoroughly test their actual field qualities, and 

 that from Hope's performance afterward they considered 

 Chance abetter dog thau her. Following is the summary: 

 ALL-AGED STAKE. 

 First Scries. 



Fred Gates beat Don's Don. 



Roy Wilson beat F. F. V. 



Ben Hur beat Stubble. 



Chance beat Tenuessee Bob. 



Daisy's Hope beat Beppo III. 



Transit beat Heinekiu. 



Capt. Bethel beat Frank Flockfinder. 



Rowdy Rod beat Tennessee Charley. . 



Spring beat Corsair. 



Lady Zeal beat Dad Wilson, ,lr. 



Galena beat Joy of Prince William. 



Bloomo II., a bye. 



Second Series* 

 Fred Gates beat Bloomo II. 

 Roy Wilson beat Ben Hur. 

 Daisy's Hope beat Chance. 

 Rowdy Rod beat Lady Zeal. 

 Galena beat Spring. 

 Capt. Bethel a bve. 



Third Scries. 

 Capt. Bethel beat Fred Gates. 

 Daisy's Hope beat Roy Wilson. 

 Rowdy Rod beat Galena. 



Fourth Series. 

 Capt. Bethel beat Daisy's Hope. 

 Rowdy Rod a bye. 



Final for First Place. 

 Rowdy Rod beat Capt. Bethel and won first prize. 



Ties for Second Place. 

 Tennessee Charley beat Galena. 



Final for Second Place. 

 Tennessee Charley beat Capt. Bethel and won second prize. 

 Third was divided between Capt. Bethel, Chance and Fred 

 Gates. 



First, Rowdy Rod. second, Tennessee Charley; equal 

 third, Capt. Bethel, Chance and Fred Gates. 



SETTERS VS. POINTERS. 



BERKELEY SPRINGS, W. Va,, Jan. 6.— Editor Forest 

 a nd Stream: I write because a matter of interest has 

 sailed my attention to your paper. It is setter vs. pointer. 

 I am not interested in any kennel, nor do I own any dogs 

 other than those I now have and shoot over for my own 

 pleasure. I have been a rough and tumble shooter through- 

 out the valley of Virginia and portions of West Virginia, and 

 for many years I have shot over and handled a large number 

 of dogs. I now own two setters, one an old dog, the other 

 one year old, and I think them as good dogs as a gentleman 

 need shoot over, but I have for years been a believer in the 

 superiority of the pointer over the setter. This opinion is 

 bused upon a close and rigid observation of the dogs as they 

 have come under my eye. I am no believer in the close in- 

 bred dog of the day, but the coarse-haired, almost wire- 

 haired pointer met with throughout the valley of Virginia, 

 is a dog that after partridges has no equal. I have seen and 

 shot over setters of exceedingly high price, and although 

 some of them have been Al dogs, I am firmly of the opinion 

 that the average pointer is far and away ahead of the setter. 



Is not the question this? A lack of water on one side and 

 a lack of willingness on the other to go into briers. As for 

 me, I have seen pointers go into briers again and again 

 where setters flinched from, and they beyond all question 

 stand the want of water better than do setters. I am for the 

 pointer, not that I have any to-day— but I have owned them 

 —but because I believe them the best dog. When I say 

 pointer I mean the coarse-haired, wire-haired pointer, not 

 the rat-tail, inbred dog of the day, and in this connection I 

 am talking of the dog good for' six days m the week hunt- 

 ing. I should like to hear from John S Wise, of Virginia, 

 on this question. N. S. D. PENDLETON. 



IRISH SETTER CLUB MEETING.— The members of 

 the Irish setter club will please take notice that a meeting 

 of the club will take place at the Westminster Kennel Club's 

 show on Wednesday, Feb. 12.— Wm. D UN PHY, Pres. Execu- 

 tive Committee: Max Wenzel, B. L. Clements, Charles T. 

 Thompson, James A. Darland, F. T. Henshaw.— Dr. Wm. 

 JARVis, Sec. and Treas. 



DOGS OF THE DAY. 



ON Jan. 23 I received the voting slip for the election of 

 officers of the associate members of the A. K. C. and 

 I did what probably the vast majority of the members did 

 —put it in my pocket for further consideration. It is not 

 such au easy matter to vote so as to make your vote count. 

 For the first time we were made aware simultaneously of 

 the names of those who had become members for the year 

 1890. This list, however, is indefinite in one important re- 

 spect — the names of all are given, whereas only those can 

 be elected who are not members of a kennel club. One may 

 therefore throw away his vote unless he exercises a little 

 care, for as I understand the programme of the A. K. C. 

 officials they will accept the votes sent, and if a person 

 elected is not eligible his vote will be stricken out, and the 

 eligible member with the greatest number of votes will be 

 declared elected. It will thus become apparent that some- 

 thing ought to be known on this subject in order to prevent 

 the throwing away of votes. 



In order to arrive at Tsome more definite knowledge of 

 what 1 was about to do I first decided to find out where the 

 members reside, because I think it very essential that those 

 selected should reside within a reasonable distance of New 

 York in order to be able to attend the A. K. C. meetings. 

 And here let me say, that there is a little indistinctness in 

 the circular of instructions, which accompanied the voting 

 slip. It says we are to vote for president, vice-president and 

 secretary and three delegates, thereby implying that we 

 elect six different men. Such, however, is not positively 

 the case; we may or not, just as we choose, for the three 

 officers can also act as delegates, and personally I think 

 they ought to do so, for the officers as officers have practi- 

 cally nothing to do, and all, I imagine, will vote for the 

 best men in their opinion as officers, and they therefore 

 ought to be delegates also, for we want the best men for 

 these positions also. Taking the December number of the 

 Gazette, I checked off the new members whose names ap- 

 peared in the list then published. The idea in that being 

 to get the residences of the new members. As far as the 

 presidency is concerned, I had never any intention of voting 

 tor any one other than Dr. J. Frank Perry, the present 

 efficient and labor-giving incumbent. With him went 

 what may be called the representation of the Eastern States 

 and New York, and short distances thereof became easier to 

 handle. 



The list became further reduced by knowledge of certain 

 members being ineligible]™ hold office, and when it came to 

 making a choice it was in this shape: G. B. Benners. Phila- 

 delphia; C. D. Beruheimer, N. Y.; P. E. Betts, Brooklyn; J. 

 B. Blossom, N. Y.. J. Brett, Huntington, L. I.; J. A Bur- 

 den, Jr., Troy, N. Y.; E. C. Clark, N. Y.; J. Mcintosh Cox, 

 Morristnwn, N. J.; Julius Fehr, Hobokeu, N. J.; H. T. 

 Foote, New Rochelle, N. Y.; L. Gardner, Mount. Vernon, N. 

 Y.- C. A. Gilberg, N. Y.; H. R. Granger, Baltimore; C. L. 

 Griffith, N. Y.; T. Gugert, Philadelphia: German Hopkins, 

 Hempstead, L. I.; E. L. Kalbtteisch, Jr., N. Y.; F. E. Lamb, 

 Baltimore; F. E. Lewis, N. Y.; R. Lyon, Staten Island; J. 

 Marshall, Troy, X. Y.; Dr. J. II. Meyer, N. Y.; James Mor- 

 timer, Babylon, L. I.; C. D. Purroy, N. Y.; C. Rathbone, 

 Albany, N. Y.: C. Sackett, Rye. N. Y.; F. W. Sheldon, 

 Orange, N. J.; C. Stevenson, Phi la.; Moses Taylor. N. Y.: 

 J. O. Thurston. Mt. Vernon, N. Y.; A. H. Vanderpoel, N. YT.: 

 J. Watson, Phila.; F. Windholz, N. Y.; J. Keevan, Brook- 

 lyn, N. Y. 



If any one goes over that list he will be able to select about 

 a dozen names as belonging to men prominently known in 

 connection with dogs and shows, and I take it that it is 

 among that class we may expect the most interest taken in 

 connection with the work sought to be performed by asso- 

 ciate member representatives. I have no desire to influence 

 any man's vote, indeed I judge every man by my own feel- 

 ings, and I know I cannot be influenced against my better 

 judgment. I am quite willing to vote for any one of half a 

 dozen of the above named gentlemen for either vice-presi- 

 dent or secretary, and if I know of any likelihood of con- 

 concentration on any of them I would be pleased to assist 

 in making their election more assured. My vote is there- 

 fore perfectly unbiassed and it is as follows: Vice-Presi- 

 dent, Dr. J. H. Meyer of New York: Secretary, Mr. Corne- 

 lius Stevenson of Philadelphia. And for those two with 

 President Perry to be the delegates. 



It is a matter for regret that the Beagle Club is showing 

 signs of decay, but it is easy to see wherein the trouble 

 lies, and the remedy is therefore obvious. No club that pro- 

 poses to foster and advance breeds can do any good if the 

 prizes donated do not amount to much more than a So bill 

 in the course of a year and that divided into four prizes. 

 The beagle men started with a cumbrous name and .$2 dues, 

 and a year or two later changed the dues to SI. Let them go 

 back to first principles in the finances, andif a change must 

 be made using something more euphonious than " Ameri- 

 can English Beagle Club." They hold in England that a 

 badly named horse cannot win the Derby. In such a case 

 something is always sure to happen. The horse goes amiss, 

 his owner or nominator dies, it is sure to be something] 

 when a good horse with a poor name is among the entries. 

 Perhaps this is what is the matter with the Beagle Club. 



It has been definitely decided by the Duquesne Kennel 

 Club not to hold a show at Pittsburgh this spring, but there 

 is another one looming up in that longitude. I have just 

 received a circular of which I need say nothing, it being 

 self-explanatory: "The Cleveland Bench Show Association 

 contemplates holding a bench show of dogs this year. In 

 order to make it a grand success the Association desires to 

 increase its membership, and thereby add to the organiza- 

 tion the support of many of our citizens who have an inter- 

 est in the improvpment of the dog. The Association is 

 anxious to place itself on a firm basis, and to accomplish 

 this would respectfully request you to add your name to its 

 list of members. The membership fee is only $5, and we 

 hope vou will join. Send your name to the secretary.— 

 Frank DeH. Robinson, Pres. C. M. Mtjnhall, Sec'y." It 

 is fully time that Cleveland did come into line again, for 

 1886 was the first and last show of the Cleveland Bench 

 Show Association. 



Chicago has another "Woolford Z" now in the shape of 

 the Mascoutah Kennel Club premium list just to hand. It 

 is quite of the very best brand, a perfect mash. Among the 

 first things I noticed was that I was last week led into a 

 misstatement with regard to Mr. P. D. Armour's setter 

 special. It is not confined to Laveracks, but is for the best 

 in the show. The error first appeared in a Chicago paper. 

 It is evident that the Great Dane men are going to make 

 their display a feature, if good prizes and a German author- 

 ity by way of a judge will accomplish that end. In addition 

 to §185 offered 'by the Mascoutah Kennel Club, the Great 

 Dane Club offers S110 in specials in open competition. Mr. 

 Gustave Lang, of Stuttgart, Germany, will make a special 

 trip to the Windy City to award these prizes, and his work 

 will be watched with interest by our dog men, for it should 

 be authoritative as to type. We are to have another new 

 face in the ring at Chicago, that belonging to Mr. J. A. 

 Long, of St. Louis, who will place the collies. I mentioned 

 this gentleman two weeks ago in these notes, and need not 

 now refer to him again. 



Lynn, Mass., has been unfortunately compelled to cancel 

 its dates, but Baltimore comes to the front with a modest 



bid for patronage, which is not likely to go unheeded, 

 though now that Lynn is no longer in the field, it might not 

 be considered unadvisable for the Monumental City club to 

 give the dogs a week's rest after Chicago and Rochester. 

 Owners, too, might find the change from Woolford "Z" and 

 the famed Rochester brewings to the milk punch route a 

 little too sudden. If a whisky storv is permissible, Mr. 

 Editor, I will tell about Woolford "Z." About fifteen years 

 ago the city editor of a Chicago paper conceived the idea of 

 investigating the qualities of the whisky sold in that city. 

 Being like all editors, a highly moral and temperate young 

 man, he delegated the testing to a chemist. Bottles of 

 whisky were purchased at a large number of "groceries," 

 the labels removed and a plain letter of the alphabet used 

 to designate each when submitted to the chemist. His re- 

 port was that the bottle marked "Z" contained the purest 

 whisky. of all submitted to his test. The analyess were pub- 

 lished with the information that "Z" was purchased from 

 the establishment of a Mr. Woolford. The latter, with an 

 eye to business, started the Woolford "Z" brand, and made 

 a fortune before the story faded from memory. 



The question of the validity of the dog show rules has 

 been set at rest by the action of the American Kennel Club 

 at its special meeting held Jan. 18. The method of arriving 

 at the desired end was not the one I should have suggested 

 or voted for. It seemed to me to be the best way to take the 

 rules as pi-inted and adopt them and ignore the illegality of 

 the Executive Committee business. In Mr. Wise's first pre- 

 amble he refers to a question as to the validity of amend- 

 ments adopted Feb. 23, 1888, It is difficult to carry one's 

 memory back through two years of meetings, but if i recol- 

 lect correctly, that was the meeting at which Mr. Elliot 

 Smith presided, and as soon as officers had been elected at 

 the general meeting he decided that all other business must 

 be done by the Executive Committee. I objected, but it was 

 no use. I am somewhat pleased, therefore, to find that, 

 under the new dispensation the A. K. C. recognizes that the 

 position taken by the then president was not correct. 



Mr. A. Tucker, of Charlestown, Mass . has sold the well- 

 known English setter dog Gus Boudhu to Mr. E. E. Haines 

 of the same citv, who will keep him for his private shooting. 



J. W. 



"ANOTHER PHASE OF COURSING." 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



A word or two with "J. W.," who in current number of 

 Forest ANP Stream has a couple of paragraphs on betting. 



All betting or wagering is necessarily gambling. See any 

 dictionary, or if necessary I can hunt up an authority from 

 the law reports. 



Betting "has no such influence in horse racing as some 

 people imagine." Bosh, even if the gentleman who had the 

 floor speaks from an "intimate knowledge, of every sport 

 followed either in this country or in England, starting at 

 horse racing and stopping this side of dog fighting." Bosh. 

 I say again. Where does his experience stop anyway ? Is 

 dog fighting a sport ? 



As I wrote in my letter in your issue of Dec. 26, 1889, I've 

 run inclosed coursing in Ireland and the escape racket is a 

 failure. You must kill to finish the trial to the satisfaction 

 of owners and backers. Did I not explain as fully as could 

 be that the English law only prevents cruelty to tame 

 animals, not to wild ones ? Over there you can course 

 rabbits in a pen, but you cannot a cat. If inclosed coursing 

 is not cruelty, why the introduction of a bill at Albany by 

 Mr. Johnson, the member from Hicksville, providing that 

 nothing in the statutes of this State relative to cruelty to 

 animals shall apply to coursing hares or rabbits with grey- 

 hounds when done under the auspices of a Sporting club or 

 association ? Was there ever such a confession of guilt put 

 on record ? 



Of course, bookmaking is a business, and a bookie who 

 keeps inside his capital is as certain to win in the end as the 

 percentage of the mutuel is to wipe out the principal in- 

 vested. The bookmaker does not gamble any more than the 

 mutuel machine or the wheel at roulette. But he is the 

 means to ths end. He enables betting, which is gambling, 

 which plays the devil with the pocket, person and charac- 

 ter of the gambler. If he wins it goes— whiff; if he loses it. 

 goes — plunk. All racing is crooked. I saw the other day 

 somewhere that the English University boat race is the only 

 sporting event on which there is heavy money staked which 

 has not been sold. It's about so. I enjoy a race with the 

 next man. I'll join in a sweepstakes, or back third favorite 

 to win and for place right straight along. That is a mid- 

 dling good martingale to play; you need not bother about 

 form or fixing, and you are pretty sure to get a good run for 

 your money. But it is absurd to discuss the honesty of 

 horse racing. Why, it is not in it; that's all. Look at the 

 people who make a business of horse racing, Go over to 

 Guttenberg or Clifton, or, for that matter, to the grand 

 stand outside the boxes at Morris Park or Sheepshead, and 

 see how many invitations to the wife's next "At Home" 

 could be fitly distributed— specially the women folk. 



Coursing is fair dog racing at first, but some of the dogs 

 get to run cunning or clever after a while. That is a dog 

 will not exert its powers, but allow the other dog to do the 

 work and then dash in for the pleasure of killing the hare. 

 Then the dog is useless for racing purposes. But betting 

 taints every sport which it affects. "J. W." concedes this 

 when he says that he never indulged in it, "mainly for the 

 reason that the chronicler of events should do nothing 

 which would tend to give his writing a bias, or give per- 

 sons an opportunity of saying such was the case." Betting 

 will taint coursing if it ever gets a foothold here. Didn't 

 they have a row at Hicksville on the second day about the 

 judge's decisions? Is it not the fact that his fairness was 

 impugned as well as his ability? Didn't I tell you about 

 the row at Lisburn, when they tried to ring in a whippet for 

 an Irish terrier? 



As to the cruelty side of the question ,Mr. Johnson has 

 settled most splendiferously, when it should prove that the 

 introduction of his bill was a smart move of the S. P. C. A., 

 which is improbable. Then just below "J. W.'s" para- 

 graphs come a couple of stories, and if it is not cruel to turn 

 a jack out of a bag in the crowded streets of Sacramento and 

 hunt "several greyhounds, a Newfoundland, two setters, 

 and a dozen curs" after it, I have not a word to say. 



I've always understood that Forest and Stream was for 

 clean sport, first, last and all the time. It does somewhat 

 surprise me to find in its columns a suggestion that dog 

 fighting is recognized as sport, that "betting or wagering is 

 not necessarily gambling," and an apology for book makers; 

 this by a reporter of races who says he don't bet lest his rep- 

 utation should be smirched or he be "biassed" in the exer- 

 cise of his avocation. However, it takes all sorts of ideas to 

 make up your mind out of. 



I saw Mr. Hough's letter, but did not bother to answer. 

 The pith of it was that he wanted you to let up on his cours- 

 ing club with the incidental information that there had 

 been a gate-money meeting at St. Louis. There it is. They 

 have got to have a "gate," for every course will cost S10 for 

 the jack and expenses. Fees for admission won't suffice; 

 racing clubs exist ouly by the commissions of the book- 

 makers. There you are — with a gamble in full swing. 



I am partisan m this matter, for out of some knowledge 

 and experience my opinion is made up, and I hope, that more 

 partisans like Assemblyman Johnson and "J. W." will pro- 

 ceed to angrify against me. Approval and justification in 

 such as theirs damn the thing they would countenance more 

 powerfully than any attempt in my power. 



Graydon Johnston. 



