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FOREST AND STREAM. 



[July 17, 1890. 



captious critic? Will Mr. Vredenburgh kindly give ns the 

 figures? Peshall. 

 Jersey City, N. J., July 13. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



It is really unfortunate that the delegate ot the New Jer- 

 sey Kennel Club should be drawn into a controversy over 

 the American Kennel Club finances, but I do not think 

 that by his letter in your last issue he makes his side 

 of the case any stronger. At the meeting of the executive 

 committee of the A. K. C, held Dec. 19, 1889, the following 

 motion, offered by the delegate of the Southern Field Trials 

 Club, was carried: ''In order to comply with the sugges- 

 tions made by Mr. Watson and Mr. Vredenburgh, I will add 

 to my motion that, before publication, an auditing com- 



_ — „t lUnonrci A C W-Hmprrhnp. Mai. Tav- 



that they be appointed to audit the accounts, and to state 

 whether they are correct, whether they have been correctly 

 kept etc " If the New Jersey delegate will read the above 

 motion, and then recall the certificate, with the word "only" 

 italicized, appended to the A. K. C. statement for the year 

 18S9, and signed bv him. I think he will find one reason for 

 his unfortunate position, and if the secretary-treasurer of 

 the A. K. C. referred others, as he did me, to the auditing 

 committee for information concerning his accounts, the 

 delegate mav find another reason. 



A short time after the A. K. C. account for 1889 appeared 

 I called on the secretary-treasurer, at his office, for some in- 

 formation concerning it, and I will briefly state what took 

 place. The secretary-treasurer answered one or two imma- 

 terial questions relative to his accounts, and in fact handed 

 me one or two copies of the Kennel Gazette I wanted for 

 reference; on my putting a further question to the secre- 

 tary-treasurer, his manner quite changed, told me he didn t 

 propose to be catechised, didn't know that I had any stand- 

 ing there, advised me to learn something about bookkeep- 

 ing, refused me further information, and finally referred 

 me to the auditing committee. 



On Feb. 17, 1890, the New Jersey delegate wrote down 

 at my dictation some six or seven items of the A. K. C. 

 accounts, of which I told him I would like to get full, or 

 such information as I could. He replied: "I will see if I 

 can set them for you;" and on my calling on him later the 

 same day he said to me, "They won't give them." On this 

 same day, Feb. 17, 1890, the New Jersey delegate, accord- 

 ing to a letter written bv the secretary-treasurer of the 

 A. K. C„ examined the books of that club. I do not think 

 it would necessitate a member of the auditing committee 

 being a statistician or a walking vocabulary to carry in his 

 mind for a few hours a few figures, or if it was necessary for 

 a member of the said committee to be a statistician or a 

 walking vocabulary to do so, why did not the New Jersey 

 delegate, who is neither one nor the other, make a memoran- 

 dum' of them? The New Jersey delegate says in his letter: "I 

 did as requested. . . ." Will the New Jersey delegate state 

 what he was requested to do in this matter, and who it was 

 that made the request, also if he did examine the books of 

 the A. K. C. on Feb. 17, 1890. 



I want to know the items that make a total of #365 64, the 

 expenses of the Kennel Gazette from Jau. 11 to Feb. 16. 1889, 

 as appears in one of the treasurer's reports; also the items of 

 receipt and items of expenditure of the secretary-treasurer 

 of the A. K. C. from Dec. 5, 1888, to Jan. 11, 1889, both dates 

 inclusive. 



Will the New Jersey delegate give me any part or all of 

 the above asked for information? 



"J. W.'s" letter last week is very interesting, particularly 

 so in so far as it refers to the contract under which Mr. A. 

 D. Lewis edited the Stud Book. In Parts 2, 3 and 4, Vol.V, 

 of the book A. D. Lewis appears as editor, so that, instead of 

 Mr. Lewis running the Stud Book between May, when the 

 Secretary-Treasurer of the A. K. C. received his two checks, 

 and September, when he went away, Mr. Lewis, apparently, 

 edited the book from April 1 to Dee. 31, 1888, and if he did 

 not do so why does his name appear as editor in these three 

 parts, which appeared, as a rule, one or two weeks after the 

 date of the closing of their respective entries. Your corres- 

 pondent "J. W." says that "three of Mr. Peshall's main 

 allegations are conclusively contradicted," and one by reason 

 of the entries in the Secretary-Treasurer's bank book, pro- 

 batum est. Mr. Peshall, who was chairman of the Stud Book 

 Committee at the time Mr. A. D. Lewis edited the Stud 

 Book (three or nine months), has stated the contract the 

 Stud Book Committee made with Mr. Lewis. The Secretary- 

 Treasurer of the A. K. C. tells "J. W." that Mr. Terry and 

 Mr. Lewis will tell him there was no such arrangement. 

 Will "J. W." tell his readers the deposits appearing in the 

 bank book he examined between April 1 and Dec. 31, 1888, 

 or the deposits made during the time Mr. A. D. Lewis was 

 running the Stud Book, as they will tend, 1 believe, to settle 

 the question relative to Mr. A. D. Lewis's connection with 

 that book. L. LlVKSET. 



Jersey City, N. J., July 10. 



ENGLISH VS. AMERICAN BEAGLES. 



[AYHEW, Lacy, "Namquoit" and the editor of the 

 English Stock-Keeper! Now, gentlemen, I protest, it 

 isn't fair for three Englishmen and an American to "jump 

 onto" one poor Irishman, because he stated what he thought 

 was true about the beagles of England and America. When 

 I wrote the article I intended to do like the tramp who put 

 a match to a barn and then ran away shouting, "Let the 

 people interested put out the fire." But as none of the 

 members of the Beagle Club will come to my rescue and 

 stick up for their standard, 1 c. a beagle is a miniature fox- 

 hound, I will give another instalment of my little piece and 

 then drop the matter for good. 



For fear that your readers may suppose that all this dis- 

 cussion is either a masked battery loaded to kill somebody 

 else's dog or else one of those harmless bombs that are contin- 

 ually going off in the dog press to boom certain lots of 

 beagles, I will state that I am not a member of a beagle 

 club, never judged in the ring in my life and never used the 

 reading columns of the dog papers to advertise, without cost 

 any dog I owned. 



I have bred beagles since 1870, but have been one of those 

 short-sighted fellows who insist upon a beagle doing field 

 work, no matter how likely he was to make a sawdust hero. 

 Notwithstanding all this, I have an admiration for the type 

 that General Rowett brought over here, and I want to blow 

 my little whistle in protest against the indiscriminate 

 awarding of prizes to the foxhound or bloodhound types 

 which has been going on since the importation of Banner- 

 man. Both canuot be correct, let the breeders decide which 

 is preferred and decisions be given accordingly. 



"Namquoit" in your issue of June 26 says, "The beagles I 

 saw in England last summer were miniature foxhounds." 

 Furthermore, he states, " 'Hibernia' calls [English] Ring- 

 wood's head a caricature of a bloodhound. Barring the long 

 ears and a slight throatiness, I consider it an excellent ideal 

 of the American beagle." 



I am aware that beagles of the type of Ringwood have been 

 winning in this country, but if the portrait published re- 

 sembles in head an English foxhound, then I have never 

 seen one either in the flesh or in black and white. If it 

 does not resemble a foxhound, then the decisions given by 

 the judges have been wrong according to the Beagle Club's 

 standard, which is supposed to be modeled on the type of 

 the Rowett beagles. 



Mr Lacy shows me very plainly that I was wrong in re- 

 gard to the number of beagle packs in England. As" the in- 



formation I gave came from the paper he edits, he certainly 

 will consider'such an error excusable. „»■.,.. ^ , 



Mr. Lacy says, "In the first place, if Little Duke was 

 indeed like the picture represented, we should call him 

 rather like a small harrier, as he should he (italics mine) 

 than a foxhound, but he is not." The picture of Little 

 Duke, I'll admit, resembles the original about as much as 

 the Little Duke of to-day looks like the Little Duke of three 

 years ago. This engraving was selected especially to set the 

 ball rolling in exactly the direction it is going. My object 

 was to get a picture as much in contrast to Ringwood as 

 possible and thereby create discussion. 



To quote further; "He [Ringwood] has really, barring the 

 square muzzle, a great look of the dog Ringwood shown in 

 the picture * * *. Then again as to type, we understand 

 from Mr. Mayhew, who knows the dog Ringwood, that bar- 

 ring size Blue Bell II. is almost a counterpart of her sire." 

 I fail to see even the slightest resemblance between the two 

 pictures, except in body and legs, and all breeds of hounds 

 (except the modern bloodhound) have these in common. 



And further: "Mr. Schellhass, when judging the special at 

 New York for best beagle in show, was quoted as saying that 

 had Blue Bell II. been m condition, that is harder and firmer 

 in muscle and condition, he would have placed her over any- 

 thing in the show, as he considered her, barring muzzle, a 

 little model." . ,. . 



Of course Mr. Schellhass knows his business, but if Blue 

 Bell II. is a facsimile of Ringwood and the latter a coun- 

 terpart of his picture, I cannot see how Mr. S. can recom- 

 mend to the breeders of this country such a type of head as 

 his Trailer, etc., which is entirely distinct from Blue Bell 

 n. If head is not to count, then some of the common rab- 

 bit dogs to be met with everywhere should win on the 

 bench, because many of them have the perfection of body 

 and feet, although sadly lacking in head and ear properties. _ 



Mr. Mayhew and I agree at least on one point, and that is 

 that Blue Bell II. is not a miniature foxhound iu head. The 

 head being the key of the type to all hound breeds at least, 

 consequently the little bitch cannot be a Liliputian fox- 

 hound at all. . . - 



The beagle breeders have several authorities to be guided 

 by, and they can take their choice: 



"Namquoit" says Ringwood, barring long ears and throat- 

 iness, is an excellent ideal of the American beagle. 



Mr. Lacy informs us that a beagle should be a small har- 

 rier. . 1 ' . . v * 



Mr. Mayhew believes a beagle ought to be a miniature 

 southern hound (bloodhound). 



The English Stock-Keeper says (see reprint in FOREST AND 

 STREAM June 5): "Without going extensively into the sub- 

 ject of the different strains and their origin, which is one 

 of the most intricate tasks of doggy lore, we limit ourselves 

 to-day to mentioning that, making a broad distinction, there 

 are two kinds of beagles, Adz., the north country beagle, of 



lies high, will easily run down two brace before dinner;' and 

 the southern beagle, a diminutive type of the old southern 

 hound, and of this variety the subject of our illustration is 

 a splendid specimen." 



The Beagle Club's staudard emphatically states that a 

 beagle should be a miniature foxhound. 



A nd our judges give their decisions in favor of all three 

 types ( foxhound, harrier and bloodhound^, in the same class. 



Any beagle breeder who will cut out the coupon below 

 and write on it a correct answer of the problem, "Which is 

 the correct type of beagle," wdll be entitled to a year's sub- 

 scription to the Forest And Stream. Any one can guess 

 as often as he or she likes, but answers must be written on 

 the printed coupon. 



The judges will be Messrs. Mayhew, Lacy, "Namquoit" 

 and "Hibernia," and no prize will be awarded until a 

 unanimous decision is arrived at by these four. 



BEAGLE PUZZLE. 



Which is the correct type of beagle,, fox- 

 hound, bloodhound or harrier? 



: Answer. , . . . . . 



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But joking aside. It does not matter a picayune to me 

 whether the type is bloodhound, harrier or foxhound, only 

 set up one standard, breed to it, and judge by it. My experi- 

 ence as to the practical field work of the bloodhound and 

 foxhound types is as follows: The former is almost too keen 

 scented and will follow too old a scent; he has a more melo- 

 dious tongue but is a potterer and a babbler; that is, he will 

 run a few yards, stop and give tongue, and then run on, and 

 is apt to cry on a cold trail. For hunting where a rabbit 

 (American hare) is likely to hole, he is much preferable to 

 the foxhound type, as the latter is not apt in such a case to 

 stick very long, but will go off after fresh quarry. The fox- 

 hound type has more grit and staying qualities, is a better 

 starter and not so afraid of briers. While not so musical, he 

 seldom gives much tongue except after a rabbit (American 

 hare) has been jumped. 



Messrs. Mayhew and Lacy both consider me wrong in 

 stating that our so-called rabbit (Lepus something) is better 

 suited for the powers of the beagle than the European hare. 

 It is not probable I can convince them of the truth of my 

 assertion by printed arguments, but I know I can by practi- 

 cal observation. It may appear strange to them, but I can 

 any time after Nov. 1 show them a pack of beagles on both 

 the European and American hares. The ancestors of the 

 former came from Germany, but they are known as the 

 English hare, and are the same species. There is a sufficient 

 number of them running wild to be a curse to beagle owners 

 and nurserymen in my vicinity. If the gentlemen will take 

 a day off in the proper season, and "gird up their loins," I 

 will furnish beagles, hares of both sorts, and a hill from 

 which they can "stand and watch the little beauties circling 

 round." They will, however, have to take a powerful spy 

 glass to see the English hare circle, because he generally 

 makes that geometrical figure about ten miles in circum- 

 ference. If they then still believe that the English hare is 

 as suitable quarry as his smaller and less fleet American 

 kinsman for the oeagle (no matter what the type is), then 

 I'll not alter my opinion, but keep forever mum on the sub- 

 ject. Hibernia. 



FOX-TERRIER COURSING CLUB.-Omaha, July 12. 

 —Editor Forest and Stream: It is a settled fact that 

 Omaha has succeeded in finding enough members to start a 

 club for the purpose of coursiug wild rabbits with fox- 

 terriers, and on Wednesday evening of next week such an 

 organization will be consummated. There are enough fox- 

 terriers here to start a sixteen dog course, or eight pairs, for 

 there must be four winners to run the final course. The 

 projectors, and they consist of a half dozen of Omaha's best 

 known citizens, are very anxious to have all who own, or 

 expect to own, fox-terrier dogs, to join the club, so that a 

 good start may be made early in September, when rabbits, 

 both jacks and the common hare, will be plentiful.— Gris. 



DOGS OF THE DAY. 



(1 ENERAL MACIYER is a Scotchman who has the bump 

 X of combativeness so enlarged as to have a continual 

 ache to be using his sword, either on his own account or on 

 that of some other person or persons, He has had the story 

 of his life told in a Tbook entitled, "Under Fourteen Flags," 

 which is full of hair'sbreadth escapes, from the period of 

 the Indian Mutiny down to the Servian War. The general, 

 however, would be little to the readers of Forest and 

 Stream did he not own a dog, by name Branckie. I saw a 

 brief notice of the existence of owner and animal in Forest 

 and Stream a few weeks ago, which does the latter scant 

 justice. Branckie is a very good dog, indeed, in fact, allow- 

 ing for not seeing the dogs together, I think he would give 

 Maney Trefoil a hard rub. He is the same style of dog, 

 only a little lighter and brighter in color, and a judge 

 would not put them far apart in the prize list. Branckie is 

 good enough bred for anything, being by Metchley Wonder 

 out of Miss Charlemagne, and was bred by Lady Charles 

 Innes Ker. I fear we will not get much chance to see 

 Branckie at our shows, for when General Maclver was in 

 Philadelphia a few days ago he was talking about starting 

 for South America. Ever since reading his life I have been 

 scanning South America telegrams to see where the war is 

 going to be. 



Has any one tried Mossine for dogs? It is a fluid prepara- 

 tion said to be made from dulse, Irish moss and various 

 other things. To the human skin and scalp it is a blessing 

 this warm weather, and I doubt not it is all the labels claim 

 as a dog wash. 



The dog Millais-nium is announced in England. It is a 

 freak of the kennel director of the Fanciers' Gazelle where- 

 by we are to have no more distemper at shows. Owners are 

 never to go about without copies of the revised edition in 

 their pockets, nor to show a puppy that has had distemper 

 within two months, and benches are to be passed through 

 the fire of disinfection seven times. No judge is to be em- 

 ployed who reports for a rival journal. I have not yet re- 

 ceived a copy of the by-laws, but it is rumored that the sou 

 of a gentleman will open proceedings with prayer, and on 

 Friday night the son of another ten -months-old gentleman 

 will doubtless pronounce the benediction. No more bogus 

 pedigrees, no judging dogs one has recently sold, no send- 

 ing crooked-legged Irish terriers to foreigners, nor sending 

 mongrels abroad disguised under the name of Basset hounds 

 after this. What happy times are in store for us all. 



The Spaniel Club committee proposes to make some iru 

 portant changes which it is believed will still further 

 strengthen the pioneer specialty club of America. One 

 change likely to be put in operation will be that in place of 

 offering to give clubs from $15 to $25 for the adoption of one 

 of the club classifications, specials for local exhibitors will 

 form a feature, the local exhibitors to be members of the 

 Spaniel Club. By local exhibitors is meant residents of 

 States within hail of the city of the show, not residents 

 of the city itself. This plan, in addition to specials open to 

 all members, should lie the means of encouraging entries 

 and increasing the club membership. The more members 

 the more specials and vice versa, the committee thinks, 

 more specials, more members. Some people have at times 

 said I run the Spaniel Club. I wish I could lay claim bo 

 such an honor, but I am only one of five to do my share to- 

 ward making it a success. Do you ever hear anything about 

 changes in the Spaniel Club, or of working up a lot of I 

 tickle you, you tickle me judges in fixing up prizes, as is 

 more than hinted at in connection with some other clubs '< 

 Just at this time we are hearing a good deal about specialty 

 judges, criticism being based on an article in the English 

 Kennel Gazette. The way the Spaniel Club does is this: It 

 sends a blank slip to all of its members asking them to 

 name the judges they consider the most competent. The 

 number of judges to be elected is specified, and there is no 

 restriction whatever as to club members being named. The 

 best judges are what the club needs, and it is in the hands 

 of the members to say who they are. This system of doing all 

 for the best interests of all has always been the method of 

 the American Spaniel Club. Hence its success. 



The committee believing that a change in the classifica- 

 tion is desirable has in like manner sent out a request to all 

 members to offer their suggestions. If any non-members 

 would like to make a suggestion it will be perfectly proper 

 for him to do so. Communications should be addressed to 

 the secretary, Mr. George H. Whitehead, Trenton, N. J. 



_ J. W. 



PHILADELPHIA KENNEL CLUB DERBY. 



THERE are eighteen entries for the Derby of the Phila- 

 delphia Kennel Club, eleven English setters, one Irish 

 setter and six pointers. All with the exception of one 

 pointer were whelped in 1889. 



ENGLISH SETTERS. 



Albert's Duchess (Dr. John A. Hartman, Latrobe), 

 white, black and tan bitch, Feb. 14 (Warwick Albert— Prin- 

 cess Bel ton). 



Beverly (Francis G. Taylor, Philadelphia), black, white 

 and tan dog, February (Roi d'Or — Mildred). 



Buster (Col. B. Ridgway, Germantown), black, white and 

 tan dog, March (King Noble— Cricket). 



Clementine (L. Shuster, Jr., Philadelphia), black, white 

 and tan bitch, Oct. 2 (Ezra Noble— Cornelia G.). 



Jean (J. B. Ellison, Philadelphia), black, white and tau 

 bitch, Oct. 8 (Fritz— Hazel). 



Larry Noble (H. Fitzgerald, Philadelphia), orange and 

 white dog, Oct. 2 (Ezra Noble— Cornelia G.). 



Lucy Noble (W. B. Smith, Haverford), black, white and 

 tan bitch (Couut Noble— Alphonsine). 



Madjje (George Fox, Torresdale), bitch, Sept. 12 (Gun— 

 Victoria). 



Old Smed (L. Shuster, Jr., Philadelphia), black and white 

 dog, Oct. 2 (Ezra Noble— Cornelia G.). 



Peg Woffington (Francis S. Brown, Philadelphia), black, 

 white and tan bitch, March 17 (Ben Hill— Nora). 



Unnamed (G. Schreibe.r, Philadelphia), orange and white 

 dog, Oct. 2 (Ezra Noble— Cornelia G.). 



IRISH SETTER. 



Sparkle (Dr. G. G. Davis, Philadelphia) bitch, April 30 

 (Desmond II.— Lorraine). 



POINTERS. 



Beauty Spot (J. W. M. Cardiza, Philadelphia), liver and 

 white bitch, July 4 (Half and Half— Favette). 



Bessie Item (H. Fitzgerald, Philadelphia), orange and 

 white bitch, January 19, 1890 (Gambol— Mollie R,). 



Bob Toland (JohnB. Ellison, Philadelphia), dog, Oct. 12 

 (Victor the Blue Stocking— Charlotte Corday). 



Duchess of Hessen (J. H. Winslow, Philadelphia), liver 

 and white bitch, July (Duke of Hessen — Duchess of Water- 

 loo). 



Jack Ellison (J. H. Winslow, Philadelphia), liver and 

 white dog, Oct. 12 (Victor the Blue Stocking— Charlotte 

 Corday). 



London (George Fox, Torresdale), dog, October (Beau- 

 mont ). 



Names and Portraits of Brans, by Gurdon Trumbuu. A 

 book particularly interesting to gunners, for by its use they can 

 Identify without question all the American game birds which 

 they may kill. Cloth, 320 pages, price $3.50. For sale by Forest 

 anp Stream. 



