Oct. SO, 1880,] 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



£99 



SHOOTING IN THE RAIN. 



CatSkxll, N; Y., Oct. 23.— Tolley'B ninth kingbird tournament 

 on Oct. 14 met with the usual rainy day, which seems to accom- 

 pany bib shoots. It is a common remark in town, "You can bet 

 we will have rain because Fred Tolloy has advertised a tourna- 

 ment." The teu events on the programme were shot to a finish, 

 all on the Keystone system, four moneys in all events and divided, 

 three ordinary 10-hird events, two double-bird events, two events 

 with incomers (which are marked with a star, indicating the in- 

 coming birds), one team race, one medal shoot, all of which made 

 an interesting card and was enjoyed hy a dozen shooter from 

 Albany, Troy. Saratoga and Saugerties. Following are the scores: 



NO. 1, 10 kingbirds; entrance $1: 



Mattire 9 "Buck" 8 Tolley 7 



Beach 9 Hollis 8 Buesser 6 



Goggin 9 Betts i 8 Leon 6 



Adams 9 Pidgeou 7 Levengston 10 



No. 2, 10 kingbirds, G outeoers and 1 incomers: 



Levengston 1 1 1*1 1*1 1 1*1 0*-9 



Buck 1 1* 1 1* 1 1 0* 1 1* 1 -9 



Mauice 1 1* 1 1 0* 1 1* 1 1 1*— 9 



Hollis 1 1 1* 1 0* 1 1 1*1 l*-9 



Gosgin .-- 0 1* 1 1*1 0 1* 1 1* 1 -9 



Pidgeon 1*0 0*0 1 1*1 1*1 1—9 



Beach 0* 1 0 1* 1 0* 1 1 1* 1 -7 



Betts 0 0* 1 1* 1 1 0* 1 1* 1 —7 



Leon 1* 1 1 0* 1 1* 0 0 1* 1 —7 



Buesser 0* 1 1* 1 0 0* 1 1* 1 0-6 



Adams..... 1 1* 0 0 0* 1 1* 0 0 1*— 5 



No. 3, 6 pairs kingbirds, entrance $1: 



Beach 11 11 11 11 11 11—12 Levengston... 11 10 10 10 11 10-8 



Buck 11 11 11 11 01 11—11 Goggin 11 10 01 00 10 11-7 



Mattice.. ..01 10 10 11 11 11- 9 Betts ll 10 11 11 00 00—7 



Adams 11 11 11 10 10 10— 9 Leon 11 10 11 10 00 01-7 



Hollis 11 00 10 11 11 10 - 8 Pidgeon 00 00 11 U 10 CO-5 



Buesser 10 01 00 11 11 10- 8 



No. 4, 15 kingbirds t entraace $1.50: 



Levengston lo Mattice 13 Goggin 10 



Beach 14 Betts, 13 Leon 10 



Hollis 14 Buesser 13 Pidgeon 9 



Buck 13 Adams ... .11 



No. 5, team match, open to teams of two men from any club, 25 

 birds per man, 50 per team, entrance per team 82.50: 



Saratoga Gun Clnb. 

 Levengston 1111111111111111111111111—25 



Buck moil n ioi oimin moil— 21-46 



West End Gun Club, Albany. 



Adams 1111111111111111111111111-25 



Leon 1110011111011010101111111-19-44 



Cat skill G un Club. 



Mattice 1100111111111111111111111—23 



Beach lllOIllllOlOlOlllllllllOl— 20-43 



Hudson River Association. 



Buesser Ill 1 11 01 10111111111111111-23 



Pidgeon 1111011111110101111101101-20—43 



Trojan Gun Club. 



Bet is 11 1 mill 1 U 0 11 11 1011 1 110—23 



Goggin 1011111111 H1011110001001— 18-40 



No. 6, 10 kingbirds, entrance 81: 



Goggin 10 Buesser 9 Hollis 8 



Buck 9 Leon 9 Adams... 7 



Levengston 9 Mattice 8 Pidgeon..- 6 



Betts 9 Beach 8 



No. 7, 6 pairs kingbirds, entrance 81: 



Levengston 10 Adams 10 Goggin 8 



Mattice 10 Pidgeon 10 Beach 7 



Hollis 10 Buck 9 Leon 6 



No. 8, 15 kingbirds, entrance $1.50. Birds thrown, 9 outgoers and 

 6 i ucomers: 



Mattice 1 1* 1 1 0* 1 1* 1 1 1* 1 1* 1 1 1*— 14 



Levengston 0* 1 1*1 1 1*1 1*1 1 1 1* 0 1 1*-13 



Adams 1 1* 1 1 0* 1 1*1 1 1* 1 1* I 0 1*— 13 



Hollis .1 1 1*1 1*1 1 1*1 1*0 1 1*1 0*— 13 



Beach -.0*1 1 1* 1 0* 1 1 1* 0 1* 1 1 1*1—12 



Betts 1 1* 1 1*1 1 0* 1 1* 1 1 0* 1 1* 0 —12 



Buck 1 0* 1 1* 1 1 1* 0 0* 1 1 0* 1 1* 0 —10 



Buesser. 0*1 1*1 1 0*1 1*0 0 1*0 1*1 1—10 



Pidgeon 1* 0 1 0* 1 0* 1 1 0* 1 1* 0 1 1* 1 —10 



Goggin 1 0* 1 1* 0 0 0* 1 1* 1 0 1* 1 1* 0 —9 



Leon 1 1 0* 1 0* 1 1 0* 1 1* 0 0 0* 1 0*— 8 



No. 9 was the grand contest of the day, for the league medal. 

 Conditions, at 25 kingbirds per man. entrance $2.75. Sine entries 

 were taken, but Adams and Pidgeon did not enter for the medal, 

 but for company's sake: 



Levengston 1111111111111111111011111— 24 



Mattice 1110111111111111111111011-23 



Beach 1111110111111111011111111—23 



Buck 1111010111101111111111111-22 



Buesser OlllHlOllllHlllllllllOl— 22 



Betts 1010110011011111111111101-19 



goksiq Giiiuunoiiim.oi'iiiimimi— io 



Pidgeon lllimmilOLlllllllllll-24 



Adams 111111101110111 w. -13 



Levengston winner of league medal. 



No. 10, at 10 kingbirds, entrance 81: 



Levengston 10 Pidgeon ..8 Betts .0 



Mattice 10 Hollis 7 Beach 6 



Buck 9 Goggin 6 Leon li 



Adams 9 



WATSON'S PARK. 



BtTKNSrDE, HL, Oct. 24.— Score made here to-day by Lake 

 County Gun Club at 10 live pigeons, 30yds. rise, 80yds. bound ry, 

 Illinois State rules, for club m> dal: 



W J Edbrook 2211212111-10 N H Ford 1203211022- 7 



L W Whitnev 1010300220- 5 A Marquardt 1010221102- 7 



H Koebler 2210202211— 8 C Buckleman 2211210221— 9 



Sweer>s same day, 5 birds: 



W J Ed brook 11112—5 N H Ford 01112-4 



L W Whitney.... , 2U22-5 A Marquardt 21111—5 



H Koebler 21111—5 C B uck i eman 01211—4 



Second div. On shoot off Edbrook aud Marquardt div. first. 



Five b r rds: 



W J Edbrook 11011-4 N H Ford 12122-5 



L W Whitney 00001—1 A Marquard t 011 21— 4 



H Koehler. 02201—3 C Buckleman 10001—2 



Second div. 



Oct. Jo.-Scores made here to-day by Chicago men, a practice shoot 

 for Kansas City team. American rules, 80vas. boundary 7 , 28vd« rise: 

 John Watson.. 10110 12112111 10 -12 MeFarland.. .010102210221020— 9 



W E Phillips.. 102011211310121-12 M J Eich 022011120012212-11 



W P Meosey. . .022122221222111-14 Geo Hoffman . .021022202111112-12 



C E Felton. . . . 212211110111220-13 A Price 110122210221011-12 



Geo Kleinman 112112212111111—15 J E Price 110202022222111—12 



R Wadsworth. 2222122212121 02—14 Tony 120)10221111012—12 



CD Gammon. 121221002021211— 13 H L^veday 0O100 1011022110— 8 



V Hoffman. . . 21. i i i l -13 Hy Ehlers 102222121121113-13 



J A Snyder. . . .121110200101010- 9 N N Lowe 112220210222001-11 



A Ho ff man 0022 202 2 1 0 0 0 022 — 8 Ed Steck 0101222ll°OI211— 12 



B Rock 020011122011011—10 J Hutchinson .122111112011111—14 



Oct. 16.— Score made here to-day by Fort Dearborn Gun Club, at 

 15 live pigeons, 20yds. rise, 80yds. boundary, Illinois State rules 

 for club medal: 



Abe Kleinman201111111111111— 14 C S Burton . . . .1022112312100H— V> 

 Chas Gammonll220U01101101— 11 H J Ehlers. . . 22H22121112121— 15 



W P Mussey. .211101112212.211-14 H Smith 010320111110110-10 



J HurrGiV!-..:;r,..2;[:i2i'ul.22.2J0j--i- G'rfcO Kl&Lmn^n 21 1 i 2< n 21201, 0-] 2 

 H M Loveaay..l01222103313011-13 



Same day at SO Peoria blackbirds, for medal; 

 A Klein 'n.lllllllOlOlOOllimi— 16 CSRurtonlOl 11100111001011001—13 

 GKlein'n. 11111011111111110011-17 H Smith .0111011100110llim0-14 



Gammon, Mussej T and Loved ay withdrew. 



Oct. lS.-Sooie made here to-day by Chicago Gun Club, 13 live 

 pigeons, 30yds. rise, 80vds. boundary. Illinois State rules: 



M J Eich 211110211111-11 John Watson . . . 111122121113—13 



E Steck 201111111110—10 3 O'Brien 221221211121-12 



Same day at 25 blackbirds: 



E Steck HlllllimiimOOlililOO— 31 



M J Eich . . 101111101 1100111101101111-19 



J O'Brien 1111111001111010111100111—19 



J. O'Brien is not a member of the club. 

 " \-25— Scores made here to-day by the Gun Club, 10 live 

 1?. 30yds. rise, 80yds. boundary, Illinois State rules for club 



.dsworth.... 1121111111— 10 Ed Steck 1U2112132-10 



- Hillard 1022121121— 9 B Rock 1201111112—9 



Ij M Hamiline 2113112000- 7 J O'Brien 2021112022- 8 



DrNRowe 1102201202— 7 J Watson 1121321111—10 



L C Willard 1112112110- 9 C E Willard 1112221111-10 



GLDeiter 1121311121-10 



Ties on 10 shot off at sets of 5 birds each, miss and out: Wads- 

 worth 11, Deiter 4, Steck 20 straight and won, Watson 5, Willard 

 15. On 9: F. E. Willard, L. C. Willard and Rock tied again on 

 s, then on 4; third tie, F, E. Willard 4, L. C Willard and Rock 5; 



in fourth tie Rock missed his first, Willard killed his 5 and won. 



Twenty Peoria blackbirds for medal: 

 E Steck. . .11111111111110110111-18 G LDeiterlUlOllOlOl 111101110-15 

 F Willard 1 1 00 10 li 1 1 0( VI 0 1 1 1 00 1 — 12 ,T O'Brien 110111 UOUllOl 110100-13 

 L Willard miUlillomilLlll— 19 B Rock . ...Oolll 1101 1 111.01 11111—16 

 C Willard 000U01001111I111011— 13 Hamiline. 110100 111101 11111111— 16 

 Ravelbxqg. 



BLOOMING GROVE PARK. 



A very interesting tournament was held at Blooming Grove 

 Park on the 18th and 20th iust. The first event was for live birdB for 

 a silver cup, 25 birds each, won for the second time by Mr. Fred 

 Engle, the conditions or the match for the cup are three winnings 

 entitle holder to the possession. Following the live bird contest 

 came the rifle match 200yds. off hand, open sights, for a cup, value 

 $100 presented by C. C. Worthington. Last spring Mr. Fred Engte 

 bore off the honors for this cup, but the contest this fall brought 

 out a new memoer, Mr. Daniel A. Keep, of Philadelphia, who beat 

 Mr. Engle by one point, wresting the glory won by htm in this 

 event last, spring. The emblem is of very chaste design, and 

 worthy of the generous donor. The rifle contest was not as inter- 

 esting to the contestants as mignt be supposed, from the fact that 

 most of them had partioipatea in the live pigeon match, but there 

 was suoh a high wind early in the day that lii was deemed best to 

 await a quiet hour in the evening tor contesting with the rifle. 

 The afternoon was very hue with almost no wind, which enabled 

 the shooters to put the bullets just wnere they held— but most of 

 them could not "hold." Folio wing the rifle match there was a con- 

 test at fly-casting, Mr. James L. Breese graceluliy taking first 

 with 82}<jtt. to his credit, and Dr. S. M. Nash second wild. 7Ht. As 

 there was but one other event— trap for inaminate birds— left for 

 the remaining day of the tournament, many of the members took 

 advantage of the facilities for iishiug and gunning, afforded by 

 the association's niagmfieient territory, and were bountifully re- 

 warded. The inaminate bird contest was won by Mr. R. Heber 

 Bremtnall with Mr. Engle a close second. This contest was also 

 for a silver cup, three times to win for possession. Following the 

 regular club matches were i innumerable sweepstake contests 

 resulting in much sport and some disappointments. While a 

 match for live birds was going on Dr. S. M. Nash came in from a 

 still- .mat with the tail of a nice buck, breaking the cold clammy 

 atmosphere surrounding the trap shooters with a huzza that 

 awakened the dormant souls of those who feared braving the ele- 

 ments for the purpose of pursuing the noble game through wet 

 brush over hill through vale and perplexing laurel bushes. For it 

 was a day styled "nasty" in every sense of the English term. 



The next morning several went in pursuit of grouse, several 

 after deer, and a few for the inspection of the club's trout 

 hatchery, retaining ponds, etc. The grouse hunters were most 

 successful, returning with something like a bushel basket full of 

 grouse. 1'he deer hunters were unsuccessful, the day being lowry 

 and scent close lo the ground. Many deer were seen but they in- 

 variably got the first shot, as is generally the case under such con- 

 ditions, the same conditions accounting for the success of the 

 grouse hunters. Nothing happened to mar the pleasure and the 

 tournament was on the whole a most enjoyable affair, sixty-four 

 being present. Waixot. 



THE LYMAN CARTRIDGE. 



J. P. DANNEFELSER'S shop at No. 9 Chambers street, New 

 York, is the headquarters of the Lyman Cartridge Co. The 

 Lyman cartridge is the production after long experimenting, of 

 Mr. Lyman, of Englewood, and is in the line of ammunition im- 

 provement now so popular. The ordinary material is used, so far 

 as shell, wads and shot go, but the powder is a brownish mass as 

 of fine dust closely compressed. Up the center of this small mass 

 runs an opening, permitting the flash from the fulminate cap to 

 pass up into the powder interior. In speaking of the merits of the 

 new shotgun explosive the company says: 



"The Lyman's expert accelerating cartridge is constructed upon 

 scientific principles, and the powder used is manufactured 

 especially for it. To the sportsman it is practically smokeless. 

 The combustion is progressive, and as rapid as can be utilized in 

 any gun, and is cleaner than others. The gun does not heat up 

 quickly. The recoil is hardly perceptible, and the noise is greatly 

 reduced. Detonating is impossible, and with no unaccountahles 

 it gives equal results at all times with improved pattern and in- 

 creased penetration. Using only thoroughly tebted materials, 

 and each charge being weighed, is unaffected by T change of cli- 

 mate." 



A test of the new powder against Black, Schultze and wood is 

 promised on the Forest ami Stream gun testing ground, and a 

 full report will be made in tnese columns. 



SARATOGA GUN CLUB.— The fall and winter season of the 

 Saratoga Gun Club has commenced and the regular meetings 

 held on Thursday of each week, with an occasional extra day, are 

 well attended. The members generally are opposed to shoo'tiug 

 for a money stake, but a number of very interesting individual and 

 team races for the birds have been shot. The scores of several of 

 the last meetings are appended. The targets used at present by 

 the club are kingbirds, thrown from the new Keystone trap. 

 Keystone system. Nearly all of the members use 12-bore guns 

 Mr. Gibbs being at, present, our only 10-bore man. It is always 

 interesting to us to know what make of gun, and the load, other 

 trap-shooters are using, and I append a list of those in nse in our 

 club: Levengston, Sdrs. Hazard's trap, 1 Vgoz. No. 8. Pike, 3drs. 

 Hazard's trap, lj^oz. Hanson, 4drs. Hazard's Kentucky rifle, IMoz' 

 shot. Meehan, 4drs. Hazard's trap, lj^oz. shot. Coster, 4ctrs'. 



Hazard's t.ran. IWnz. Crawford. idrs_ Hmn.Tri'« tran 1L<™ 



3drs. hazard's trap, l%oz. shot. Atkins, Sdrs. Hazard's trap, IMoz. 

 shot. 

 Sept. 16: 



Levengston. . .. ommmmimmiiinmiioiiimmiiiiiiiim-48 



Gibbs 111111111101110111100111101111101111011111101111111-42 



Boekes 01111011111011110111101101111110111111 111011101111-41 



RamsdiU 0111010101010111101010111111101110110imil01111U-37 



Hodgman 11101 10101101 0110 1 010101110011100 1011 10 1101010011 1—31 



Atkins lOlOlOlOlOlllOOOOOlllOOlOllOOllOlOOlllomilOlllll-30 



Sept. 25: 



Levengston 1111110111immilimilimilim01imillllllll— 48 



Boekes 11111111111111111011111111101110101110101110110011-41 



RamsdiU OlOUoOllUinilOlOllllllOOOllOlllimillllllllOlll-38 



Gibbs iiioicoioiiomoioioiiiiiiiiuioooimiiiioiioooii-35 



Ken- 01000010000001010000111111100111100101101101111011—26 



Edwards OOmiOOlOOllOOlOlCOOlllOlOlOUOlOOlOOOlOOOiOllllO-24 



Brown 000010100100010001010IXI1111010(XJ001001100100000000-15 



Sept. 27: 



Levengston lmiOHmilllOimilOlllllllllllllllllomilllll— 46 



Coster miiimiomioimimooimomioiiiiomoiioii-41 



Boekes 01101110110111101111011111111011111111101011111111-41 



Clement OlllOlOlOlOllOllOiOimimilinomOlllllOllllllOl-36 



Atkins lOOlOOOlOllOlOlimoilllOOilllOllllOimoilOllliOl-34 



Meehan 1101111011010101011111011110101111010100111001011-33 



RamsdilL 00101011010101111001111111111101110010101010111101-33 



Team match at 25 birds per man: 



Levengston llllllimOlllUlllllllll— 24 



Clements 110ll0imiimimiom0-21 



RamsdiU 1111110111011001101111111—20 



Brown 0101111010101000000000000 - 8—73 



Coster 0111111111101111111111111—33 



Boekes 1111101101011111111101111—31 



Meehan UllDl 111 1 J 1 J. 0 1 II 0 LO 11111-:;! 



Jones OIIOOIOIOOOOOIOOOOOOIOOOI— 7-73 



Oct. 2: 



Levengston Iimillllll01111imilllllllimilll0imilllllll-d8 



Boekes iiiomoiioimmmiimmiimiimiomiiim-46 



Gibbs llllOlOOlllllOlOllllllllllllllllOlllllllOlllllllU-43 



Coster mmmommiiiiiiiiiioiiiiiimoooimooomi— 43 



RamsdiU 11110010101101111111111110011101111000110111101010-35 



Jones. 10010111011011110100000111010110100100011001001101—26 



Brown 00 tOOOOO] 0 .0.OGOOllOlOOllJOOOltXXlllOiOlOOlOO 10100001—17 



Smith ooooooiioooooooioooooiixiiiiooooofioo^ 



Badger. 



EASTERN NEW YORK.-Saratoga Springs, N. Y., Oct. 17.- 

 The Trap-Shooters' League of Eastern New York has proved a 

 great success, and we now have a schedule arranged by the sec- 

 retary, Mr. Horace B. Derby, of the Albany Argus, which gives 

 us a tournament at some one of the league club's grounds on 

 Tuesday of each week. The attendance at our tournaments has 

 largely increased, the entries running as high as 30. H. M. Lev- 

 engston, Jr., one of the Saratoga Big Four at the recent tourna- 

 ments of the Albany and Troy gun clubs, made one of the longest 

 straight runs in regular sweepstakes on record— 123 straight and 

 172 out of 173.— Badger. 



NEWARK, N. J., Oct. 23.— The rain prevented the shooting of 

 the live bird match between Frank Class and Frank Kleinz at 

 John Erb's to-day, but the afternoon was pleasantly spent by the 

 party present in sweepstake shooting. The postponed match at 

 100 live birds will take place on the fair grounds at White Plains, 

 Westchester county, N . Y., on Wednesday nest, 



CREAM CITY GUN CLUB. 



WE have received from the Cream City Gun Club, of Milwau- 

 kee, Wis., its report, for the season ending O it. 1 last. The 

 awards of medals were: Championship, L. J. Petit, with 93 out of 

 100 doubles and 43 out of 50 singles. A Class— First, H. F. Boa- 

 worth, 89 out of 100; second, Geo. W. Atwell, 85; third, A. W. 

 Friese, 83. B Class— First, Geo. R Marsh, 71; second, H. E. Camp- 

 bell, 67: third, George Gibbs, 62; fourth, F. L. Pierce, 61. 

 President, Pet it's address to the members is as follows: 

 "I desire most particularly to congratulate you upon the fact 

 that not a single, accident has occurred on our grounds since the 

 organization of this club. It is equally true that there has not 

 been the slightest dissention or controversy among the members; 

 on the contrary, the spirit of good fellowship has prevailed in a 

 marked degree under ail circumstances, which is in itself suffi- 

 cient evidence that our club is exclusively composed of 'gentle- 

 men' in every sense the word implies. 



"The proficiency in marksmanship attained by many during 

 the season has been remarkable; every member, including those 

 who failed to secure a prize, can justly feel proud of his record, 

 when it is understood that ail shooting has been done at either 

 unknown angles or from screened traps set strictly according to 

 the rules of the American Association. 



"As regards target, shooting in general I can conscientiously 

 add that it is rapidly growing in public favor and promises to be- 

 come a popular out-door sport, but cannot in my opinion ever 

 take its proper rank as snob, until the unsportsmanlike practice 

 of shooting live birds from the trap is abolished. There might 

 have been some apology for that kind of shooting in former years 

 when wild pigeons were numerous, but there is none whatever 

 since the invention of inanimate targets, which furnish a perfect 

 substitute for the exercise of skill with a shotgun. Shooting tame 

 pigeonB, a large percentage of which fly directly toward the 

 shooter or refuse to fly at all, certainly cannot be considered very 

 elevating in its influence and character, to say the least, in this 

 enligntened age. 



"With due respect for all who may not indorse my views, I 

 earnestly recommend some action on the part of this club toward 

 the enactment of laws for this and every other State in the 

 Union, prohibiting live-bird trap-shooting. When this is accom- 

 plished target shooting will without doubt appeal to every class 

 of professional and business men, and receive the patronage it de- 

 serves as one of the most innocent and healthful recreations 

 known, and one eminently calculated to develope both the mental 

 andphysical powers. 



"The secretary and treasurer's report, shows the club to be in a 

 prosperous and substantial conaition, and I beg to express my 

 most grateful appreciation for the. co-operation of all in making 

 the season just closed such a complete success." 



SAUGERTIES, N. Y.— The first grand kingbird tournament 

 and live pigeon shoot of the Saugerties Gun Club will be neld 

 Nov. 5, rain or shine; all money prizes; open to all; latest im- 

 proved traps. Grounds at Driving Park. Keystone system, to 

 commence at 10 o'clock, American Shooting Association rules to 

 govern. For further particulars address Geo. F. Tolley, Sauger- 

 ties, N. Y. New York and Jersey shooters can take Saugerties 

 night, boat, 6 P. M.. foot Franklin street, New Yoru. All purses 

 divided 40, 30, 20 and 10 per cent. Any shooter tied on a purse 

 can draw his share. Tbere will be a tish and game dinner given 

 under the auspices of the Hudson River Fish and Game Protec- 

 tive Association, at the Phoenix Hotel, at 5 o'clock, thus enabling 

 shooters to leave on the early evening trains north 7:29 and 8:28, 

 and south on the 7:56 West Shore. Particular attention will be 

 given to the requirements of amateur shooters at special traps 

 for their exclusive use. AH shooters who, in the opinion of the 

 management, do not come under this head, and who have shot at 

 open tournaments, will be excluded. 



NEAR-BY TRAP EVENTS.— The Woodside Gun Club will hold 

 an open-to-all fall tournament on Nov. 18 and 19. This will be the 

 formal opening of the new giounas and clubhouse, and the mem- 

 bers intend to make it a memorable occasion. The Eureka and 

 Algonquin guu clubs will shoot a team match at Marion on Thurs- 

 day, Oct. 30. The conditions will be 10 menper team, 10 live birds 

 per man. The conditions will be 50yds. boundary, gun below the 

 elbow until bird is on the wing. 



FORT HAMILTON, N. Y., Oct. 18.-Shoot of the New Utrecht 

 Rod and Gun Cluo at live birds, 25yds., 60 j ds. boundary, en 'ranee 

 $2, divided 50, 30 and 20 per cent. Two matches, first match: 



U R Street 1222211313-10 Dr F S Cook 0133112100-7 



Jere Lott 1022111121— 9 M Van Brunt 0010111221—7 



D Deacon 1111221100— 8 R J Van Brunt 0220021100—5 



A A Hegeman 1110110221- 8 G F Bondies 1210000001—4 



J Kos Ler 2113001323— 8 



Secoud match: 



R R Street 1221211211-10 M Van Brunt 3012111022- 8 



Jere Lott 212O221211- o ;-- .^v^O ^_ ., 



D Deacou 1111312111-10 A Squires .1212120211- 9 



J Koster 1000110010- 4 Duke Grebner 1200030131- 0 



MAPLE WOOD, N. J., scores will be given next week. 



Secretaries of canoe clubs are requested to send to Forest .and 

 Stream their addresses, with name, membership, signal, etc. of 

 their clubs, and also notices in advance of meetings and races, and 

 report of the same. Canoeists and all interested in canoeing are 

 requested to forward to Forest and Stream their addresses, with 

 logs of cruises, maps, and information concerning their local 

 waters, drawings or descriptions of boats and fittings, and all 

 items relating to the sport. 



THE A. C. A. MEET OF 1 S90.-I. 



"VTOW that the great meet of 1890 at Jessup's Neck, the long 

 L> promised "salt water meet," has taken its place on the shelf 

 of history heside the many pleasant inland camps of the past 

 there is a chance for a more thorough and deliberate review of its' 

 many features, pleasant and unpleasant, than was possible in the 

 briet and hurried reports written amid the bustle and excitement 

 of camp life. The value to the Association of each of its meets bv 

 no means ends with the striking of the tents and the breaking of 

 the camp, there is always much to be learned from a ca, ef ul study 

 of the various details, that will aid in decreasing the annoyances 

 and inconveniences of future meets, and in this respect the pres- 

 ent one has proved most fruitful. 



From the time that a meet on salt, and presumably tidal water 

 was first suggested, it has been apparent to those who have most 

 interested themselves in the matter, that such a meet would be 

 far more difficult and expensive than any of the inland camps, 

 and such has proved to be the case. Not only has the expense of 

 each individual member, and in particular of the officers and 

 committees, far exceeded that of previous meets: but certain 

 difficulties which attend every large camp have in the present 

 case, reached such serious proportions that it would be impossible 

 in any truthful report of the. meet to ignore them, or to pass them 

 without comment. Knowing as we do how much good work was 

 done by the officers, and realizing fully that on the whole the 

 present meet was one of the most successful ever held, it would 

 be pleasanter and easier to touch only on the bright side of the 

 picture; but the success if not the permanency of future meets 

 depends largely on the perfection of two great details, and to this 

 end it is necessary to recognize the attempts of this year as fail- 

 ures, in each case, and to se^k a speedy remedy^. 



That the first salt-water meet was a success will be admitted by 

 all who were present in camp long enough to become familiar 

 with its many pleasant features. That, at the same time, there 

 were some very serious drawbacks is fully known to all who were 

 present and many who were not. Whilethe officers were entirely 

 undeserving of the wholesale condemnation and misrepresenta- 

 tion which was heaped on them by one irresponsible critic 

 neither were the lay members such a collection of captious and 

 discontented grumblers as they are represented by one eager 

 apologist for the powers that were; there was a deal of grumbling 

 over the mess and the transportation, and with good reason but 

 we believe that every one present recognized the fact that all 'had 

 been done that was possible, and that the failures in certain 

 directions were due to circumstances beyond the control of the 

 officers. It was not necessary, at least to any intelligent and fair- 

 minded A. C.'A. man, to make any excuse for these gentlemen 

 even if it were, this matter has been so well attended to that little 

 is left for us to say. Every one knows that they receive no salary 

 that so far from making money out of the meet, as was intimateof 

 in one account alluded to above, they find it necessary to spend 

 considerable on their private accounts; while a3 to the work they 

 do, it not only turns their nominal vacation into a fortnight of 

 exceptional labor and responsibility, but involves a constant draft 

 on their time throughout the whole term of office. 



This is plain to any one who spends a week at a meet, but those 

 who are more intimately acquainted with the history of the 



