Nov. 20, 1890.] 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



S6S 



NEWARK GUN CLUB. 



The members of this crack live bird flub assembled on Thurs- 

 day last a1 Erb's Shootiug Park for their regular monthly meet. 

 The attendance was mucn smaller than usual. As the game 

 season is now open this is easily accounted for. There is not a 

 member of this club who is not a lover of field shooting, and a 

 majority ol them are now scattered about the country in search 

 of 1 he game. Tnose I bat were in attendance were favored with a 

 Perfect day, and. as is always the case at Erb's, had a grand lot of 

 birds for targets. Before the shootiug began a meeting was held 

 and a governing committee consisting of Messrs, Brientnall, Erb, 

 Howke, Castle and Fonts were elected to have full control of all 

 elub affairs. The committee appointed to manage the coming 

 tournament are, making great preparations, and everything 

 points to a most successful meeting, a large number of requests 

 lor programmes have, come in, many of which are from shooters 

 that have not been in the habit of attending tournaments. This 

 ia I he result of barring out the top sawyers, and it is expected 

 that a large number of the amateurs will he in attendance. The 

 committee will strive to make things pleasant for all that may 

 at tend. Special rates at Newark's best hotel, the Continental, 

 have been seem ed, and a hot dinner will be served each day upon 

 the grounds. Keystone targets are to be thrown, and one" set of 

 ten traps will be used for all events. 



Sweep No. 1, 4 birds, $3 entrance, two moneys: 



If das 9 2121-4 DrZeglis... 2ull-3 



3 Er6 2112-4 J H Brientnall oOll-iJ 



George 2111—1 "Hollis" 2000-1 



Ties for first: Class 3, rest 4 and div. 



Sweep No. 2, 8 birds. [5 entrance, three moneys: 



"George" 10123131—7 .1 Erb 1011o211— 6 



Br ZukHs 11212021—7 MLindsley 0112ol22-r> 



Hair, Castle .llllllo2-7 '•Hollis 1 ' 01110110-5 



0 M Hedden lllloll2-7 J H Brientnall 10000012-3 



F Class .22202220—6 



Ties on 7 div.; on 6, Lindsley 0, others 2 and div. 



Ten birds, regular club shoot, optional sweepstakes, $5 entry, 

 three moneys: 



J Erb. 1221121112-10 "Griffin" 0211222002-7 



"George" 112222121 1 -10 Dr Zeglis 201 0202121 -', 



0 M Redden. 2222112211-10 Wm Hughes 0101210221—7 



t Class 2122122101— 9 Wbeaton 21X12200110-5 



» Castle 2101102111- 8 Bruen 1101001001-5 



-l H Brientnall OllllllloO- 7 Lindsley 0000"03OlgO:-3 



1 !-:.<H 1 "ii':'-; i — 1 



"Hollis" 1022010111— 7 



Ties all div. Brientnall not in sweep. ] 



Tee Kay. 



WALNUT HILL, Nov. 12. — A dozen shotgun experts reported at 

 this range to-day, and in spite of the raw weather put up some 

 very high scores in the various events. In the 14th competition 

 for the diamond pins the shooting was remarkably even, Messrs, 

 Barret and Bradbury tieing for top olace. Tbe former waived 

 his right to a shoot-off, and Mr. Bradbury wore home tbe elub 

 champion medal. In the contest for the Keystone trophv, also, 

 the leadership was left in doubt, for Messrs. Brad burv and Nichols 

 rolled up the same totals. 



Diamond pin match, 14th competition, 20 Keystone targets, 

 firing oy squads, and 5 pairs of Standard targets: 



Barret 11111101111111111111—19 01 10 10 00 10-4-23 



Bradbury ...10111011111111110111-17 11 11 10 00 01-6-23 



Bowker IlOlHiaillOllOrilll— 17 01 11 00 10 10 -5—22 



Curtis llllHOlllOlOlllllll— 17 01 01 11 11 11-5-22 



Farham 01111110101101111111-13 11 01 11 11 11—9-22 



Gale 11111111110111010111-17 11 10 10 00 00-4-21 



Knowles ....10110111111111111111—18 01 00 00 10 10—3—31 



Nichols 111111 HUH il lul lOLll-lo 00 00 11 00 10-3-19 



Hosmer 01011110111100101010-12 10 10 00 10 11—5—17 



Burton 01000000100101010010— 6 00 10 10 10 00—3— 9 



Keystone trophy match, 4th competition, 20 Keystone targets, 5 

 traps Keystone rules: 



Bradbury .HllllllllirilOlllll— 18 Gale 01101111111111111001-16 



Nichols,.. linilOllllOllimU— 16 Parham ..OnOlllllOlOmillll— 16 

 Barret, . . Ollllil 10111 11011111—17 Hosmer. . . 0101 1 11 0111 10 101111 1 —1 5 



Black 1 111101011101111 11 11-17 Knowles. .1111101 10111 11011100-15 



Bowker. . . 00111111111111101111-17 Burton . . .,10010101000110000000- 6 



CLAREMONT SHOOTING GROUNDS.-Nov. 15,-Ten blue- 

 roeks, 50 cents entrance: 



Slglex 10 9 8 9 10 Miller 10 9 9 7 10 



Qoimby 7 5 7 8 9 Du Bray 6 7 9 9 9 



Johnston .8 8 9.. .. Hathaway 7 5 7 7 8 



Lindsley 9 0 8 10 9 Macatee 4 3 .. .. 



Collins 10 10 9 10 10 Mead., 4 .. 



Hunt 6 6 



Live bird sweeps, at 5 birds, $3 entrance: 



Sigler H112— 5 21111-5 Mead 12101-5 



Quimbv 01212-4 22122-5 Maud 22120—4 



Jonnson 11122-5 22211—5 Pierson 12120-4 11022—4 



Lindsley 10100-2 23112-5 Du Bray 10211-4 12121— o 



Collins 12221-5 11101-4 Hathaway... . 20201-3 



Hunt ..22121-5 11022-4 Macatee 33012—4 



Miller 21111-5 02002—3 



NEW YORK, Nov. 12.— Monthly shoot of the Manhattan G-un 

 Club, at T'Vld man's Driving Park, Maspeth, L. I.: 



M Lichtenberger.. ..3 H Flegenbeimer 4 H Bailer 4 



Geo Fohi enkopf . . . 5 F Lambrecbt 5 E Klein 3 



RScbmitt 2 Jos Schreck 3 Messersehmitt 6 



John Bayer 4 Eibl 2 J N Gennerich 4 



J A Hoffman 6 



Shoot off won by Messersehmitt with 3 straight. 



NEWARK, N. J., Nov. 6.— At Erb's to-day the attraction was a 

 match between Geoige Ray nor, of Oranee„and John HaTrison, of 

 Chat ham, each man shooting at 25 birds, for $50 aside. The 

 match resulted in favor of Raynor bv 18 to 17. Next Thursday 

 the monthly shoot of the Newark Gun Club will take place, and 

 a score of members are ex pected to be on hand. Beside the regu- 

 lar flub trophy contest at 10 live birds per man there will be open- 

 to-all sweepstakes. During the day Robert Schraff t, one of the 

 most promising young shots of this city, will shoot a match at 50 

 live birds each against Cnris Reinhardt, and another also at 50 

 birds each against Gus Griff en. The stake in each match will be 

 $100 a side, and Newark Gun Club rules will govern, 



Nov. 8— To-day a big crowd was on Erb's grounds to witness a 

 match at 25 live birds each between William Hollis, of Kearny, 

 and F. Ferment, of this city, the stake being §50 a side. The birds 

 were a hard lot of flyers, and were made still faster by a strong 

 wind from the left quarter. The match resulted, Hollis 18, Per- 

 ment 15. 



WOODSIDE. N. J.— The formal opening of the new grounds of 

 the Woodside Gun Club, on the banks of the Passaic River, on 

 Nov. 18 and 19, is expected to be a feature of the trap-shooting 

 season, and expert shooters from far aud near will be on hand to 

 try and capture the pots. Shooting will begin at 9 o'clock each 

 day and open sweepstakes will be arranged on an extra set of 

 traps to accommodate the contestants. The programme, which 

 will be tbe same each day, is as follows, bluerock targets being 



two-men team, 10 siugles per man, entrance, per team $2; No. 9, 5 

 pairs, $1; No. 10, 20 singles, «2; No. 11, 15 singles, $1.50; No. 13, 10 

 singles, $1. The shooti ng will he governed by A. S. A. rules. All 

 purses will be divided into 40, 30, 20 and 10 per cent. 



CLEVELAND, O., Nov. 6.— To-day was not such a bad day for 

 shooting, and the members of the East End Gun Club took ad- 

 vantage of the fine weather to make some scores that on the 

 average were not particularly good. After L. O. Jones had vir- 

 tually won the Smith gun for the second time afresh detachment 

 of shooters arrived, among them a gentleman by the name of 

 Poplowsky, who tied Mr. Jones's score. Considering the con- 

 ditions under which Poplowsky shot he did some meritorious work. 

 It was very dark and almost impossible to distinguish the birds 

 against the background of trees. Black, Poplowsky and Murray 

 tied for first badge, and Black won. For second badge Sweetman 

 and "Maygo" shot off a tie, the latter winning. The following is 

 the score of the shoot, the first 30 birds counting in the regular 

 club shoot: 



Sweetman 45 L O Jones ..48 A B Jones 44 



Wherry 39 Baker 36 Phare 38 



Reynolds 43 Mavgo 47 Poplowsky 48 



Bloom 31 Mar ti n 43 Bl sick 47 



Murray 42 Corryell 37 



ASBURY PARK, N. J., Nov. 7— The second live bird match 

 between Philip Dal >% Jr., of the Central Gun Club of Long Branch, 

 and Capt. Money, of London, England, was shot to-day on the 

 new grounds of the Central Club at Pleasure Bay. The con- 

 ditions were 30yds. rise, 21yds. boundary. 100 birds each, and use 

 of both barrels allowed. The match was for $350 a side aud a new 

 gun valued at $300. The birds were strong flyers. Daly won, 

 killing 87 birds to Capt. Mouey's 82. 



WELLINGTON, Mass., Nov. 8.-The mildness of the weather 

 to-day brought to the Wellington range several new sportsmen 

 who entered in the 20 events shot. In the merchandise match 

 Perry led with 28 broken birds. The other scores of 14 and over 

 were made as follows: Stone 24, Bradbury 19, Stanton 23, Gore 23, 

 Hooper 14, Bond 31, Purdy 14, Dill 20. 



HIGHLAND GUN CLUB, of Des Moines, la.— Description of 

 the new grounds and house uext week. 



fzcjfting. 



Yachlsmen who do not see what they want under this heading 

 will please look under the hatches of i he Canoe, peep into tbe 

 Kennel, squint, down the barrel of the BUle, open the Fte/i Car and 

 Game Mag, inquire of the Sportsman TourM, and it their yearn- 

 ings are still unsatisfied, push their explorations into the Edit or if l 

 and Advertising Departments. 



THE LAKE Y. R. A. 



WE are indebted to the Toronto Ulobt for the following com- 

 plete report of the eighth annual general meeting of the 

 Lake Yaeht Racing Association, held at the Queen's Hotel, on 

 Nov. 8. President- A. R. Boswell, commodore of the Royal Can- 

 adian Y. C, was in the chair, and there were delegates' present, 

 from all the circuit clubs, excepting Belleville, Mr. W. H. Biggar, 

 commodore of the club, having telegraphed that it would be im- 

 possible to send a representative. The delegates were: 



Oswego Y. C— E. B. Mott, Karl Kellogg and A. Ames (per 

 proxy). 



Rochester Y. C— Matt Cartwright, E. N. Wallbridge and W. H. 

 Briggs. 



Kingston Y. C— J. B. Carruthers, Geo. E. Evans (per proxy). 

 Hamilton Y. C— M. Jarvis, J. F. Monet and H. Lee, 

 Royal Canadian Y. C— Hume Blake, C. A. B. Brown and L. B. 

 Percival. 



Queen City Y. C— J. Allan. T. E. World and O. Martin. 



Tbe minutes of the meeting of Nov. 9, 1889, were read by the 

 secretary and confirmed by the meeting. Mr. C. A. B. Brown in 

 welcoming the delegates to Toronto, reviewed the success of the 

 yachting season just past, and congratulated the association on 

 the same. He said they had experienced Some rough weather at 

 Kingston, but the circuit regattas as a whole were most gra tin - 

 ing. He was glad lo see that the other clubs by their representa- 

 tion hero were determined to still further advance the splendid 

 sport of yachting. 



The treasurer's report, was then read and passed, showing the 

 finances of the association to be in a healthy condition. Notices 

 of proposed amendments to the constitution, in accordance with 

 article 13. were taken up and discussed. The Hamilton Y. C. 



names and times of the starters in each race held under the 

 auspices of tbe association in a hook provided for that purpose." 

 (2) That the following be. added to paragraph 2 of article 6: "But 

 no delegate shall give a proxy to any person who is not a co-dele- 

 gate with him from the same club." 



The first clause was adopted, but, after some discussion, the 

 second clause was amended so as to read "co-member" instead of 

 "co-delegate with him from." 



(3) That the words "other than the assessment mentioned in 

 Rule 1 of the sailing regulations" shall be inserted in article 3, 

 between the words "no other assessment," and "shall be levied " 

 Carried. 



(4) That the words "and in good standing therein" at the end of 

 paragraph 1 of article 11 be struck out. Carried. 



(5) That the following be inserted as Article 13 under the heading 

 of "Arrears": (a) No club which is in arrears for anv assessment 

 shall be entitled to be represented at any meeting of the Associa- 

 tion, nor shall any of its fleet be allowed to compete in any race, 

 held under the auspices of the Association, (b) No yacht, the 

 owner of which is not in good standing in the club to which he is 

 supposed to belong, shall be entitled to compete in any race held 

 under the auspices of the Association. Mr. Brown, R. C. Y. C. 

 objected to the latter clause and gave his reasons for so doing! 

 He did not think it just to shut out a yacht hecause she was 

 not entirely owned by members of a emb of the Associa- 

 tion, but the other delegates thought this a most necessary' clause. 

 It was, however, amended so as to read "anv owner" in place of 

 "tbe owner," and tbe article adopted. 



(6) That in Rule 1 of the sailing regulations the following shall 

 be inserted after the first paragraph: 



"The executive committee shall, however, at least one month 

 prior to the first race of the aunuai circuit, appoint an officer, at 

 such remuneration as they shall see fit, whose duty it. shall be to 

 attend all regattas held under the auspices of tho Association and 

 (under the direction of the officers of the club giving the regatta) 

 superintend the laying and logging of courses and laying of 

 buoys, calculate the time allowances in the different classes, fire 

 tbe guns at proper times, take and correct the times of the com- 

 peting yachts and generally do such work in connection with the 

 management of the regattas as may be reasonably required of 

 him. He shall keep a record of tbe names and times of tne start- 

 ers in each race and after the close of each circuit shall send such 

 record to the honorary secretary of the Association. The execu- 

 tive committee shall have power to levy an assessment on each 

 club of the. Association sufficient in the whole to pay the expense 

 incurred by the employment of such officer." 



Mr. Mott, Oswego Y. C, said that, the expense was so great in 

 securing such an officer that he had been instructed by his club to 

 vote against this amend meat, but whatever was done by the meet- 

 ing would be regarded by the Oswego club. It. was felt that the 

 matter should be left within the discretion of the executive, and 

 on motion of Mr. Monck, seconded by Mr. Blake, the first four 

 words of the clause were made to read, "the executive committee 

 may" instead of "the executive committee shall." The clause in 

 this form was then adopted. 



(7) That the following be added to the last paragraph of Rule %• 

 "But shall be classed and have crews allowed at their full rat^ 

 ing." Carried. 



(8) That the words "the day before the day" in Rule 3 be struck 

 out and the words "24 hours at least before the time" be substi- 

 tuted therefor. That the last two seniences of the saidrule.be 

 struct out and the following substituted therefor: "Sundays 

 shall not be computed." Mr. Jarvis, Hamilton Y. C, explained 

 that the reason for this amendment was to pre vent yachts from 

 entering other than their own class. Many yachts", by a slight 

 lowering of their topsail, could do this, and, when they were 

 allowed to post their entries on the morning of the regatta, it was 

 to their interest to sometimes change from one class to another 

 according to the condition of the wind. Compelling entries to be 

 made 24 hours in advance would overcome this difficulty. The 

 members considered this a good idea and the amendment was 

 unanimously adopted. 



That the following be added to the said rule as paragraph 2 

 thereof: Prior to tbe first race in which a yacht may compete in 

 any circuit its owner shall deposit a certificate of measurement 

 with the association officor mentioned in Rule 1, which certificate 

 shall be in the form following or to the like effeol: "We hereby 



certify that , the owner of the rigged yacht , is at 



present a member of the yacht club in good standing, and 



that the measurements of said yacht, in accordance with Rule 2, 



are as follows: To end of boom, ; topsail halyard sheave to 



top of boom or under side of gooseneck, ; eyes of rigging to 



top of boom or under side of gooseneck, ; gaff. ; water- 

 line, ; corrected length, ; time allowance for one knot, 



, , measurer; , secretary. , 189—. 



"Should any change be made in the rig or measurement of a 

 yacht during a circuit a new certificate shall be deposited with 

 such officer before such yacht shall be allowed to compete in any 

 subsequent race." All of the clauses except the last one, which 

 was struck out, were adopted. 



(9) That in the form of entry mentioned in Rule 4 the words 



"her association number is " be inserted between the words 



"her distinguishing flag is " and "her rig is ," and that 



the words "her time allowance for one knot is " be inserted 



after the words "and her corrected length in accordance with 

 Rule 2 is— ft." Carried. 



(10) That the words "when the number of entries required have 

 been made and shall, at t he direction of the sailing committee, be 

 entitled to the prize, subject, however, to Rule 5" in Rule 6, be 

 struck out and the following substituted therefor, "when two 

 entries have been made and shall be entitled to the prize, subject 

 however, to Rule 5." Carried. 



(11) That paragraph 1 of Rule 3, relating to distinguishing flags, 

 be struck out. Carried. 



(12) That the words "no one shall be allowed, however, to steer a 

 yacht in any race unless he he a member of a club belonging to 

 the Association," in Rule 11, be struck out. 



This last proposed amendment brought about a prolonged dis^ 



cussion, in which nearly all of the delegates took part. Some of 

 the members thought that the amendment should not be adopted, 

 as it would give the wealthier yachtsmen an advantage over other 

 competitors in a race, as they could engage professional men to 

 steer their boats. President Boswell said that if the amendment 

 was not adopted the very best yachts in the Association would be 

 handicapped in not being sufficiently manned. He believed tha.t 

 the very best men should be placed at the helm. It was the same 

 as a racehorse exactly, and tbe nuesiion was, How can we make 

 the greatest speed? They were sailing for money, and it would be 

 unjust to place an inferior boat in a position to win through inabil- 

 ity to have the better one properly handled. Resides this, be did 

 not think that a man present could define an amateur yachtsman. 

 Any man who had made money through sailing could uot be 

 classed as an amateur. There was a case down at Cobourg (a little 

 town that deserved credit i'or giving them a regatta). He referred 

 to Cuthbert, a boatbuilder and yachtsman, who made his living 

 in that way, and yet it could not be said that he was either a pro- 

 fessional or an amateur. A man purchasing a boat should be 

 allowed to get the utmost speed out of that boat. There was not 

 a club in England that would tolerate such a rtue. 



Mr. Blake thought that some distinction should be made be 

 tween the yachts in order not to affect the interests of either the 

 lnrpe or smaller boats. He therefore moved, seconded by Mr. 

 W allbridge, that the amendment only apply to boats of 35ft. and 

 over., Mr. Brown said that if this were carried there would onlv 

 be three boats affected by U, the Oriole, Vreda and Aileen, and 

 perhaps the Cygnet. Mr. Blake's motion was put and declared 

 lost for want of a two-thirds majority. In view of this Mr. World 

 moved, seconded by Mr. Lee, that Mr. Blake's amendment, 

 changed so as to read 30 insiead of 8561., be adopted, which was 

 carried by a two-thirds vote. 



(13) That the words "tbe distinguishing flag" in line six of Rule 

 20 be struck out, and tbe words "a flag" be, substituted therefor. 



(14) That the following be added to Rule 24 at the end thereof, 

 'and no yacht shall be allowed to alter ber rig or ballast to 

 enable her to sail in a different class than the one for which she 

 was originally measured, unless her owner eau show to the satis- 

 faction of the sa'ling committee that, it is his intention to sail 

 permanently in the class to which he is altering his yacht." 



"When there is no race for a yacht in the class to which she be- 

 longs she shall be allowed to sail in the class above, time allow- 

 ance to be computed to her corrected length." 



(15) That the words "to which said yacht belongs," in line 4 of 

 Rule 25 be struck out, and the words "belonging to the associa- 

 tion" be substituted therefor. Carried. 



(16) That in the table of time allowances the words "can be ex- 

 pressed m hundredths" be substituted for tho words "can be ex- 

 pressed in tenths" in the second line of page 37, and that all the 

 words after "the next higher number" in the same sentence be 

 struck out. Carried. 



Tbe Rochester Y. C. gave notice of the following amendment: 

 That instead of the words "40 per cent." on the last line of page 

 35 tbe words "oO per cent." be inserted, and that the table of time 

 allowance be altered in accordance therewith. Carried. 



The Royal Canadian Y. C. gave notice of the following amend- 

 ments: 



(1) That the words on page 21 from "bee hole" to "jibboom" be 

 slruck out and the words "bowsprit end" be substituted there- 

 for, and that the words "or bowsprit" be added after the word 

 "boom" where it occurs on line 13 of same page. That the word 

 "or" on the next line he struck out and the word "bowsprit" be 

 inserted after the word "boom." 



(2) That the words from "a member" to the end of Rule 11 be 

 si Mick out, and the words "an amateur" be substituted therefor. 



(3) That at the end of Rule 24 there be added "and in no race 

 shall any two or more classes be combined." 



Not one of the Royal Canadian amendments were adopted. The 

 first was withdrawn and the second and third were lost by vote 

 of the meeting. This concluded the notices of amendments, and 

 the chairman said the meeting was open to hear anv suggestions 

 or new ideas from the delegates. Mr. C. A. B. Brown, who, it was 

 expected, would propose some change in the usual circuit, said 

 that he had promised during tbe regattas of the past season to 

 make a move for the shortening of the circuit. It appeared to him 

 to be all work and no play. He thought that four places at which to 

 hold regattas, namely, Toronto, Hamilton, Oswego and Rochester, 

 would form a sufficiently large c rcuit. In some of the places it 

 was ielt a hardship to give, a regatta each year, and it cost the 

 club a considerable sum of momy. If it was intended to give 

 regattas this year he believed that some move should be made to 

 shorten the circuit, or to discuss how the circuit should be divided 

 up. He was not objecting on his own behalf, but, he believed there 

 was a feeling in that direction and had brought the matter up be- 

 fore the meeting in order to have it ventilated. Mr. Mott of the 

 Oswego Y. C. said that the matter had been talked over a good 

 deal in their club since the last summer's regatta, and their mem- 

 bers were getting tired of solici ti ng subscri ptisns. They were also 

 getting tired of contributing so freely. After looking at the mat- 

 ter well they had concluded that it would be a good idea to unite 

 Oswego and Rochester and give two or three day's racing at Great 

 Sod n s Bay where there are ample accommodations. He believed if 

 this suggestion were acted upon they could have the greatest races 

 of the circuit and would receive enough subFcriptions from the 

 railways and hotels at that resort to satisfy all. Mr. Cartwright, 

 Rochester \'. C, stated that their club favored the union race's at 

 Great Sodus Bay outlined by Mr. Mott. He thought if they did 

 this they could have an excellent regatta and a general cruise as 

 well. He would be in favor of hold ing the regatta inside the piers 

 on the bay, as there was plenty of water and the attraction would 

 be greater to the public. Visitors would come from Oswego and 

 Rochester, and he thought tbe railroad would render willing as- ■ 

 sistance. His club would much rather have a three of four days' 

 meet than a race at Oswego and Rochester. Mr. Jarvis, Hamilton 

 Y. C, was not very sure that this scheme would be a successful 

 one. He pointed out that the Imer-State Yacht Association wis 

 killed m one year by these meets. It was more of a cruising gen- 

 eral good time with little racing. 



The Oswego and Rochester delegates were unanimous, however, 

 in expressing a belief that it would lessen expenses and facilitate, 

 matters in both of the New Y^ork clubs. They thought the scheme 

 should be adopted for a year to see how it would work. 



Mr. Monck, Hamilton Y. C, moved that the Tuesday nearest 

 July 15 be the day for the first regatta. He gave his reasons for 

 desiring that tbe regattas begin earlier than last reason. He con- 

 sidered July a better racing month than September, as it was nol 

 so cold, and ho believed there was little if any difference in the 

 velocity of the wind. It would also enable business men to get 

 back to their work at an earlier day, which was verv desirable. 

 If tbe scheme for the holding of the Rochester-Oswego meet at 

 Sodus Bay was carried out, he would suggest that that regatta be 

 the last of the circuit, as the yachtsmen would not be able to do 

 any sailing afterward. The question of holding a regatta at 

 Cobourg was discusseed, and the president and Mr. Brown con- 

 curred in the opinion that the matter should be left in the hands 

 tbe executive. If Cobourg expresses a desire to come in, they can 

 choose a day al ter the circuit had been completed and nearly all 

 of the clubs would go there. Acting upon Mr. Monck's motion, 

 the schedule for next summer's regattas was formulated as 

 follows: 



Tuesday, July 14, at Hamil on. Thursday, July 16, at Toronto 

 R.C.Y.C. Friday, July 17, a t Toronto Q.C.Y.C. Monday, July 20, 

 at Rochester. Thursday, July 23, at Oswego. 



Mr. Wallbridge, Rochester Y. C, said that, in view of the fact 

 that the regatta committees had arduous duties to perform in the 

 raising of money for prizes, he would suggest that trophies be 

 given instead of cash. He believes this would relieve matters to 

 some extent, and wished to hear the expression of the. meeting. 

 Mr. Monck thought that the clubs had been giving too much 

 money in prizes. He saw no necessity for any club giving $1,000 

 in prizes. The majority of yachtsmen sailed for the love of the 

 sport and not for the money there was in it. He would uot, how- 

 ever, favor giving trophies, as he believed they would cost the 

 club more than is expended at present. 



Mr. Martin, Q. C. Y. C, expressed regret on behalf of his club 

 that they had been unable to give a regatta last year. It was a 

 rule of their club to raise no moneys for prizes outside of their 

 own members. This year they had a guarantee from the members 

 and expected to give a good regatta. 



Mr. Mott moved that the connection of the Bay of Qninte Y. C. 

 cease with the Association, but the chairman referring to the con- 1 

 stitution declared that such a motion was out of order. Several 

 of the delegates wished to have the Bay of Qninte club expelled 

 forthwith. Others thought that a meeting should be called in Ham- 

 ilton on the day of the first regatta, at which Belleville would be 

 allowed to explain her position, while some of the more thought- 

 ful members felt that the Association could not be too lenient in 

 the matter, as it was most desirable that Belleville should retain 

 a position in the Association. It was moved by Mr. Jarvis. sec- 

 onded by Mr. Monck, that the next meeting of the Association be 



j..^/., r »wx iccuueiit, ai»a tarnvrmiii, Kocnetue.r i , u.; Honor- 

 ary Secretary. Geo. E. Evans, R. C. Y. O, Toronto; Executive 

 Committee, Com. Allan, Q. C. Y. C, Toronto; J. F. Monck, ex- 

 commodore Hamilton Y. C; J. R, Carruthers, commodore Kin.es- 



