Dec. 18, 1890.1 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



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Regarding that advisory committee meeting and in view 

 of my comments of last week on the proposed amendment 

 to enlarge the scope of the committee's work and power, I 

 wonid draw attention to the fact that hut three members 

 were present. That being a quorum of live, I do think that 

 the committe should be enlarged to nine. Three are not 

 sufficient at all times for the thorough elicitation of all the 

 points of a case. Take for instance the one. in which I was in- 

 terested. I showed Clipper at Rochester in 1889, awl he was 

 defeated by Metehley Surprise for some specials. If I am any 

 judge of a collie at all, the decision was a bad one, but any way 

 Metehley Surprise was ineligible and was subsequently dis- 

 qualified by the A. K. C. I sa w in the papers of Thursday 

 of the show week, that Metehley Surprise had won in the 

 challenge class, and knowing that she was entitled to go in 

 that class, I wrote to Frank Smith, who had charge of 

 Clipper, that if the newspaper reports were correct to please 

 make a protest and ask for reserve 1 number for the specials. 

 On Friday afternoon I got a catalogue, which confirmed the 

 newspaper reports, and at once sent a lengthy telegram to 

 the show secretary, making protest and again 'asking that a 

 reserve number be secured. I did everything a person could, 

 and as promptly as possible. Now the club did nothing, it 

 even disallowed the protest (a similar one to which the 

 Boston committee at once allowed), which on appeal to the 

 A. K. C. was at once reversed without even calling upon the 

 Rochester club for an explanation. Then, when the question 

 of the reserve number was subsequently brought before the 

 A. K. C, I produced a letter from the Rochester secretary, 

 in which he asked by what right I said the reserve number 

 had not been obtained. Letter after letter was written by 

 the A. K. C. secretary to the Rochester people on the subject, 

 until he finally asked the club, in his report to the September 

 meeting, to discipline the Rochester officials. That was the 

 case as presented to the advisory committee, and this is the 

 decision rendered: 



Resolved, That in the opinion of this committee, reserve num- 

 bers should be given iu all cases, hut, in the case of the collie 

 special ar Rochester in 1889, the judge having left the show, be- 

 tween the hours of 4 and 5 o'clock, on the first day of said show 

 (Tuesday), and the request from Mr. Watson for a reserve number 

 not having been received by the club until the fourth day of said 

 show (Friday), that it was not within the power of the club to 

 accede to the said request. 



Admitting that the result, arrived at could not be other- 

 wise, yet I hold that the reasons assigned are faulty. The 

 judge it is said left before 5 oclock on the first day of the 

 show, and because he was not present wheu the protest was 

 received, "it was not witbiu the power of the club to accede 

 to the 8=>id request." Now, I submit that this is faulty for 

 the following reasous: It implies that after 5 o'clock on 

 Tuesday nothing could be done to alter an erroneous award. 

 It places! the power of correcting an erroneous award solely 

 in the hands of the judge in place of the show committee. 

 It ignores the show rule that in the absence of the judge the 

 committee shall have power to appoint a substitute. It 

 makes invalid such rulings for instance as that at Chicago 

 last spring, when two terriers were overlooked by the show 

 employes, and were not passed upon by Mr. Belmont, where- 

 upon the committee to do justice to the innocent exhibitors 

 asked Mr. Mortimer to re judge the classes. That was 

 equity, even-handed justice, but it was wrongif the Roches- 

 ter ruling is correct. 



At Rochester it will be seen that nothing so extreme as 

 the Chicago rejudging wis called for. Mr. Mortimer had 

 already chosen all his class winners, and between them for 

 the specials he had selected Metehley Surprise. No reversal 

 of this verdict was asked, but simply that it should be sup- 

 plemented by some one saying which of the other first prize 

 winners ranked best. Suppose, for instance, that Mr. Mor- 

 timer had left without deciding the collie specials, then 

 under the advisory committee's rulings they would have 

 gone by default. 



I believe one of those specials was for the best collie owned 

 by a member of the Collie. Club, and I was much surprised 

 a few days ago to receive from the Collie Club secretary a 

 medal with the following superscription: "For the best col- 

 lie, Rochester, 1889." If that is so then the medal does not 

 belong to me, and Mr. Shotwell will please consider that it 

 is at the disposal of the Collie Club should the committee 

 hold that the advisory committee's ruling must be followed. 



On this case the Fanciers 1 Journal comes to my aid with 

 the following editorial comment: 



Mr. Watson being in Philadelphia could not make his request 

 until he learned the result of the awards, after which ha immedi- 

 ately wrote and telegraphed the club to have the reserve number 

 taken, which could have been done by appointing another judge, 

 the regular judge having left the city. 



The A. K. O. should always protect the helpless exhibitor, and 

 when tbere is any doubt he should be favored, rather than the dog 

 show. If elubs are allowed on quibbles to avoid adjusting prize?; 

 as in the Rochester case, the precedent now established" will be 

 quickly taken advantage of. 



It is not the loss of the specials I am "kicking" about, but 

 the failure to discipline a club that acted from first to last 

 in the most discourteous manner not only of myself, but of 

 the A. K. C, besides annunciatiug a ruling which I conceive 

 to be erroneous for the reasons set forth. 



DOG CHAT. 



WE hear that Rifleman, the fox-terrier, is coming to New 

 York after all. We know that Mr. C. L. Wilton 

 was nibbling at htm but thought he had given up the idea 

 after purchasing Suffolk Risk The new purchaser's name - 

 is not given by "Cheerful Horn." our informant. Rifleman \ 

 was bred by Mr. Doyle, and is ason of Result and Distaffine. 



The noted pug Prince Victor is dead. This is the dog 

 that Mr. Houlker, the well-known Euglish pug breeder, gave 

 $500 for a short time siuce. The death of this dog is a great 

 loss to pug breeders, as he was as near perfection as it is 

 possible to attain. He was by champion Royal Duke out of 

 Lady Grace, thus combining the rarest blood. Distemper 

 was the cause of death. 



Mr. Cruft, who has made such a name for himself as a 

 promoter of terrier shows in London, announces his inten- 

 tion of holding a grand show at Islington, London, in Feb- 

 ruary next. It will be a three days' show and, will not only 

 embrace terriers but all other breeds. 



Stock-Keeper (Eng.) publishes a letter on a subject of 

 moment not only to mastiff breeders, but breeders of other 

 large dogs. It is as follows: "Is it not strange that nearly 

 all the best dogs die comparatively young? . Speaking from 

 memory I cannot call to mind any really first-class show 

 mastiff that has lived to be ten years old during the past 

 fifteen years or so. Most have died at from five to eight 

 years, at ages when they should be just about their prime. 

 I think the artificial manner in which they are prepared for 

 the bench, together with excessive stud work, are the fac- 

 tors accountable for this state of things. It is a well-known 

 fact here that the majority of show dogs are forced with 

 unsuitable foods, and saturated with arsenic and other 

 drugs to get them into what is called condition, which 

 simply means fat. This tells upon their constitution, and 

 as a natural consequence weakens their progeny. I am 

 afraid this will not be altered until judges recognize the 

 difference between fat dogs and those in good work-a-rlay 

 condition to the latter's advantage. Some of the tallest 

 and worst language I have ever been guilty of using has 

 been uttered by the ring side at seeing good, useful and 

 sound dogs passed over in favor of the veriest cripples, dogs 



not having a sound leg to stand upon, and whose only re- 

 commendation was fat and a good head. This is unvar- 

 nished truth learned from experience, for my own dogs 

 have at times been placed above better specimens, for, as 

 the judge .remarked, 'being in better condition'." 



In commenting on this the above paper speaks of the U3e 

 of arsenic; which it is said is the cause of the i ra potency of 

 many of our stud dogs. There is uo doubt that too much of 

 this sort of dosing is done, though not nearly so much here 

 as in England, where many dogs are shown artificially, so 

 to speak, not faked, but so stimulated that unless in expe- 

 rienced hands they soon go to pieces. Minting died young, 

 but we do not think arsenic had anything to do with it, as 

 from what we have seen, good, sound! beef awl plenty yellow 

 grease has much more to "do with the blooming condition 

 Mr. Moore's dogs are shown in. 



Colonel North's greyhound City of Paris must be a veri- 

 table gold mine. We are told that, though he cost his owner 

 $4,000, he won his purchase money back in less than three 

 m on Mis' coursing. Then the first year at stud his owner 

 took the pick of the litter in lieu of stud fee, and thus ac- 

 cumulated forty pups. Now he stands at $150 fee, and has 

 had already thirty bitches. 



A. R. Crowell, "Namquoit," has joined the order of Ben- 

 edicts and will make his home in San Francisco. We wish 

 bim and his fair partner every prosperity and happiness for 

 the future. 



Mr. llacke, of Pittsburgh is not to be beaten, for it is 

 reported he has sent a commission for the best Barzoi that 

 can be bought. Apropos of t his it would not be out of place to 

 refer our readers to the following interesting letter which 

 appeared in the Canine World on Russian wolfhounds: SlB. 

 —As a resident of Russia it affords me great pleasure to 

 notice the growing interest which doggy men iu England 

 are taking iu the breed of Russian wolfhounds. Until now 

 1 have read but two letters on the subject in your esteemed 

 paper. However, the knowledge of the brped seems to be 

 very vague as yet, and I should feel very happy if I could 

 do anything to enlighten the English public on' this point. 

 In reference to color, I must say that the information given 

 in the article you re published from the German paper 

 (which also got it through Mr. Kareev and myself) is right. 

 Black markings are not desirable, but still they are. not 

 counted as a fault, as dogs with black markings got 

 prizes at Moscow aud St. Petersburg last year. Wolf- 

 hounds have nearly all colors imaginable, except all black 

 and all brown, and even those might exist, although I have 

 not seen any and certainly they must be very rare indeed. 

 Most dogs are white, with brindle, yellow, sable, or grey 

 spots. Some of the most beautiful dogs that I have seen are 

 of the Gordon setter color. "Cheerful Horn" is right in 

 what he says about breeding for size. For coursing hares 

 the large dog is no good whatever, and at wolves middle- 

 sized dogs are also preferred. I have seen dogs, or rather 

 bitches, of the size of a collie tackle a wolf, and stick to him 

 like a leech. The coat is generally better in smaller dogs, 

 and this is becoming a weak part in our breed. Old friends 

 of this breed say that about fifty years ago the coat was 

 much better, and the head used to stick in a muff. There 

 was a dog with such a coat at the Moscow show last year, 

 and was sold for 400 roubles. You must take into consider- 

 ation that a wolf develops decidedlymore speed than a hare, 

 and it is sometimes as much as a greyhound can do to catch 

 him up. (That is a point where 1 have my doubts about the 

 Irish wolfhound. If he was anything like, or even heavier 

 than a Scotch deerhound, he would never get near a wolf). 

 There are very few wolves that will attack a dog, only those 

 that have been coursed about a dozen times do not run away 

 any more, but sometimes go straight at the dogs or the 

 people. In a wild state the wolf always runs away as quickly 

 as his legs will carry him. The neck must decidedly be 

 shorter than that of auy other greyhound, so that the head 

 is carried low, giving the dog an appearance of looking 

 downward. The head must be of a shape like a sheep's (as 

 the Russians say). That means to say, there must be no 

 stop, and the line between the occiput and the point where 

 the stop ought to be must form an angle with the line from 

 that point to the nose. Between the ears the head must be as 

 narrow as possible, aud the ears must be so small that in a 

 dog with a good coat they are- hardly seen; besides they have 

 to be carried well back, coming to the front only when the 

 dog is excited. The fault that Krilat (as he ought to be spelt) 

 seems to have, of his elbows standing outward, and, conse- 

 quently, the feet inward, is very common among this breed, 

 and ought certainly to be got rid of, as well as legs standing 

 the other way about. Russian breeders have an extraordinary- 

 idea of what the back ought to be like. They say that the 

 back of a dog ought to be curved, whereas the back of a 

 bitch ought to be straight, so as to be able to carry the pups 

 and leave more room for their development. I do not believe 

 in this, and am sure English breeders will be of my opinion 

 that "what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander as 

 well." So, after all, "Cheerful Horn" has some very sound 

 ideas about wolfhounds, and "Knight Errant" need not be 

 so very sure about his theory of the long neck. Hoping you 

 will find room in your paper for these few lines, I am always 

 ready to give auy information on any breed that is only to 

 be found in Russia.— Yours very truly, Russian Bear 

 (Moscow). 



BEAGLE TRAINING. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



I have just read the report of the National Beagle Club 

 trials in your paper, and hope the club will be successful in 

 creating a greater interest in the beagle as a working hound. 

 It is a fact well known to those who use the hound that the 

 training he gets determines his value as a hunter. How 

 often we see good dogs that have been spoiled by ignorant 

 men who did not know how to handle them. After ruining 

 the dog by improper usage they raise a great hue and cry 

 against the breed and condemn the dog for faults for which 

 the manis responsible. There is a great quantity of literature 

 devoted to the training of setters, pointers and spaniels, but 

 when we look among sporting papers and books for informa- 

 tion on training the hound, we are surprised and disap- 

 pointed to find it so scarce. 



We are compelled to follow the traditions of our fathers 

 or the examples of hunters older than ourselves, and among 

 these we find the old colored man who picks up each mem- 

 ber of his pack and throws it into the briers in order to get 

 the dogs warmed up to their work. And there is another fel- 

 low of a paler hue who, when a rabbit appears, rushes after 

 it, shouting and yelling like a broker iu the stock exchange. 

 He belongs to that class who think the more noise they 

 make the greater the sport. 



Now it seems to me that the members of the National 

 Beagle Club, and others who are engaged in breeding 

 hounds and hunting with them, might do a good thing if 

 they would publish their ideas on training these dogs for 

 their work. Let them tell us what a hound may be taught 

 to do and what not to do. How to bring the stubborn, self- 

 willed one to your side when you want him: how to keep 

 him from working off a mile or more, and making you split 

 your throat and luugs trying to call him out of the woods. 

 They might tell us how hounds can be taught to retrieve 

 wounded or dead game instead of destroying it when found, 

 as some of them do. Some of us would like to know how to 

 make a dog stand by and give tongue when be has run a 

 rabbit to earth or tree; and how to make a lazy dog hunt. 



Why can not the hound be brought under discipline so that 

 he can be controlled by his master as easily as is the pointer 

 or setter? 



You will say, perhaps, there is a fellow that wants his 

 dog to run the rabbit and shoot it too. Not a bit of it. But 

 we do want to see less of the mau who tramps around all 

 day with a couple of good (Jogs, spoiled, and then shoots 

 them because they fail to work to his satisfaction. There 

 are too many people who think all a hound needs is to be 

 turned loose and left to roam the woods at his pleasure. 

 When he gets so that he can trail a little they call him a 

 broken dog. If some of our beagle men would give us their 

 experience and methods of getting the best work out of the 

 little hound it would pay them in the end. The demand for 

 beagles would be increased and much more pleasure derived 

 from keeping them. That this may bring out the views of 

 others on this subject is the wish of one who sometimes 

 spends a day in the Brush. 



MEETING OF THE AMERICAN KENNEL CLUB. 



r pHE meeting was held at its rooms, 44 Broadway, New York 

 -L City, Thursday, Dec. 11. In the absence of both the presi- 

 dent and vice-president Mr. James L. Anthony was elected as 

 chairman. There were present: Associate Members, J. L. Anthony 

 and A. P. Vreden burgh; American Fox-Terrier Club, W". Ruther- 

 furd; American Beagle Club. H. F. Schellbass: American Pet Dog 

 Club, Dr M. H. Oyer: American Spaniel Club, J. Watson; Cali- 

 fornia Kennel Club, Mux Wenzel; Gordon Set ter Club of America. 

 L. A. Van Zaudt; Louisiana Poultry and Pet: Stock Association, A. 

 H. Vanderpoel; Maryland Kennel Club. Jas. Thompson; National 

 Grevbouud Club, L. C. Whiton; New Jersey Kennel Club, A. C. 

 Wihnerding; Rochester Kennel Club, W. Whitne\ ; South Carolina 

 Poultry aud Pet Stock Association, Dr. H. C. Glover; Toledo Ken- 

 nel Club, Dr. H. T. Foote; Westminster Kennel Ciub, H. B. Crom- 

 well. On motion, association meeting took a reness for thirty 

 minutes. 



EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. 



Mr. August Belmont, Jr., presiding. Present: All the delegates 

 named above. 



Credentials of delegates to represent their different clubs were 

 read as follows: Jas. Watson, A. H. Vanderpoel, Jas. Thompson, 

 W. Whitney, Dr. A. H. Foote, H. B. Cromwell, h. A. Van Zandt, 

 Maj Ji M. Taylor, Wilson Fiske and John A. Logan. On motion 

 the credentials were accepted. 



A communication from Mr. C. J. Peshall, of Dec. 11, 1890, was 

 read, and on motion of Mr. Watson, placed on file. 

 The minutes of the previous meeting: were read and approved. 

 Mr. Max Wenzel stated that Mr. Peshall had said to him that he 

 had been disqualified at a meeting of which he had no official 

 notice, and no opportunity to defend. Mr. Wenzel stated further 

 that he asked President Belmont at the. meeting of the executive 

 committee (at which Mr. Peshall was disqualified) if Mr. Peshall 

 had been notified to attend, and that. Mr. Belmont replied that he 

 had, aud for that reason he had voted for his disqualification. 



Mr. B"lmont stated that if he. did make that statement he con- 

 sidered that Mr. Wenzel 's question referred to the meeting of toe 

 advisory committee, which meeting he was positive Mr. Peshall 

 had been invited to attend, and not to the meeting of the exeou- 

 tive committee. 



On motion of Mr. Anthony the meeting of the executive com- 

 mittee adjourned, and the meeting of the association resumed. 

 Mr. Belmont retired after requesting Mr. Anthony to take the 

 chair. 



The reading of the amendments to the constituton and by-laws 

 was taken up. Moved aud seconded that the constitution and 

 ame ndments be read, and if no objection is made to any particu- 

 lar article, they be deemed adopted as amended, and when objec- 

 tion is m'ide to auy article, it be discussed and voted on. A call 

 for the ayes and nays resulted in the. following vote: Ayes— Messrs. 

 Anthony, Shellbass, Cryer, Watson, V»n Zaudt. Vanderpoel, 

 Thompson, Whiton, Wilmerding, Whitney. Glover and Foote. 

 Nays— Messrs. Wenzel and Cromwell. 

 The amendments to the by-laws were also read and adopted . 

 On motion of Dr. Cryer the association adjourned and went 

 info executive session. 

 The secretary read his report as follows: 



New Yo.uk, Dec. 10, 1890. -To the Executive Committe, American 

 Kennel Club: Gentlemen— I have to report that since the last 

 meeting of this club the following applications for admission to 

 membership have been received' 



Central C>ty Kennel Club, Jackson, Mich.; Delaware and Sus- 

 quehanna Poultry and Pet Stock Association, Binghamton. N.Y.; 

 Indiana State Poultry Association, Indianapolis, Iud.; 'South. 

 Carolina Kennel Association, Greenville, S. C; the Bulldog Club 

 of America. These applications were received in proper form. 

 The clubs are eligible to membership, and are recommended for 

 admission. The Central City Kennel Club has arranged to hold 

 its show Jan. 13 to 17. 1891, this being the same week as the show 

 to be held by the South Carolina Poultry and Pet Stock Associ- 

 ation, and the Indiana State Poultry Association has fixed upon 

 Jan. 20 to 25, 1891, the same week as the show to be held by the 

 Louisiana Poultry and Pet Slock Association. These dates were 

 selected in order that the shows might be held in connection with 

 State fairs. Th« request is made, that in case the applicants are 

 admitted, that this club will permit the use of the dates arranged 

 for, upon the grounds: First— That said dates were advertised, 

 before applications were made for admission, and second, that 

 the. distance between the places, in which the dates conflict, is so 

 great that one can hardly interfere with the other. It is very de- 

 sirable that action upon this matter shall be taken at this meet- 

 ing. 



Since the last meeting complications arose regarding a conflict 

 of claims for show dates betweeu the Maryland Kennel Club and 

 theDuquesne Kennel Club, and also the New England Kennel 

 Club and the Cleveland Kennel Club, but 1 am happy to state 

 that through the medium of this office these matters have been 

 satisfactorily arranged by the courtesy of the Ducmesne Kennel 

 Club and the Cleveland Kennel Club, bith having withdrawn 

 their claims, although legally entitled to them. Such spirit of 

 accommodation and good fellowship between our members, 

 clearly showing that the management of these clubs is in the 

 hands of gentlemen, speaks well tor our kennel world and is con- 

 ducive of mucn good. The matters referred at the last meeting 

 to the. advisory committee with full power, have been acted upon, 

 and the proceedings of that committee have been published in the 

 Gazette and other sporting papers, and I would report that in 

 compliance with the demands of this club the Maryland Kennel 

 Club has withdrawn its vote of July 10, censuring the American 

 Kennel Club, and duly apologized for its former action. The 

 officers, except its president, also apologized for said action. In 

 the matter of Jacobs vs. Oldham, the defendant has failed to 

 make any defense within the required time, although he. notified 

 me under date of Nov. 1 that he would do so, therefore under 

 the resolution of the committee Mr. Oldham has been disqualified. 



The committee passed a resolution that on and after Jan. 1, 1891, 

 all Gazette entries shall be known and published as "Listed," the 

 only registered dogs acknowledged are those entered in the stud 

 book. This action has been highly commended by the sporting 

 press and by individuals. J have a letter from one of the former 

 presidents of this club, suggesting that it might be well for the 

 American Kennel Club to determine as to the expediency of tak- 

 ing some, steps toward a bench show at Chicago during the 

 World's Fair, and 1 would recommend the appointment by the 

 chair of a committee of three to examine into the matter, and to 

 report their recommendations at a subsequent meeting. We will 

 complete, our fiscal year before the next meeting of the club, and 

 I would respectfully request the privilege of publishing my annual 

 statement in the Gazette for January, and also the appointment 

 of a committee to audit my accounts before then publication. 1 

 beg to inform you that I have condensed into thirteen short rules 

 so much of the bench show rules as instructs bench show officers 

 what is required of them in matters appertaining to their obliga- 

 tions to this office, and will furnish all clubs with copies of them 

 for their guidance, f would also inform you that I have made 

 arrangements to procure the photographs of all the officers of the 

 American Kennel Club since its organization, and will, by a cer- 

 tain process in photography, be able to hang upon our walls these 

 pictures of a uniform size, style and finish. I beg to lay before 

 you the resignation of the Rhode Island Kennel Club, and ask 

 your action regarding its disposal. I beg to report that charges 

 have been filed with this office as follows: Mrs. J. Grant against 

 Mr, Frederick Emken; Mr. W. E. Sandars against Mr. William 

 A. Bruette; Mr. E. H. Morris against Dr. J. H. Meyer; Mascoutah 

 Kennel Club agaiust Mr. F. W. Sheldon, 



I desire to submit a suggestion from Mr. F. H. F. Mercer, that this 

 club should adopt a scale of the value of wins at our different 

 shows, so that a win at a small show may not be of equal value 

 as one at one of the leading shows. During the past year a num- 

 ber of the delegates have expressed the opinion that" it would be 

 advisable for me annual meeting of this club to he held at the 

 building of the Westminster Kennel Club show. This meeting 

 is always ordered for the third dav of the show, and as a large 

 number of our delegates are iu almost constant attendance at that 



