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nervous. Sbe is good in legs and position of same, light iu 

 eye, too long and coarse in stem, and very throaty for a 

 young one. Fedora, be, is throaty, light in eyes, not quite 

 rigbt in ears, long and coarse in tail, good shoulders. Tbis 

 is a white with liver head markings and tickt d body. She 

 is sister to Fama and is of the sau^e type. Mr. Harris's dogs 

 were not iu good condition, ooe beiug much too fat and 

 the other too thin. If either of the tvpo shown really was 

 Bonanza 1 would not have known it. Freeze Bang Bang, 

 he., is a bit foxhoundy in type and too coarse for a show dog. 

 She is not first-class in back, knees, stifles, hocks or in stern. 

 Class well judged. 



The challenge class for light weight dogs brought to- 

 gether Laimcelot and Tribulation in show condition, and 

 that once grand little dog Naso of Kippen, a wreck of his 

 former self, dead out of condition, the hair off about his 

 eyes and his bod3' coat all stained with mange cure. Would 

 it not pay Mr. Mortimer to get a good kennel man to put 

 the dogs in condition for the shows:' Bang Bang became a 

 wreck as soon as he got to America, and it's the same thing 

 with Kippen. Lad of Bow began to fall to pieces as soon as 

 he got to Babylon. There is something wrong, and ''Jim" 

 should see to it. I am inclined to think that the trouble 

 lies in the feeding department more than anywhere else. 

 Well, Kippen was never in the hunt and should not have 

 been sent to the .show. I have been under the impression 

 that Tribulation could beat Ijauncelot, and Mr. Davidson 

 seemed to be of the same opinion, for he took a cursory 

 glance at the two dogs and then handed the ribbon to the 

 handler of the former. I marked down in my notebook 

 "rigbt," taut when I got the dogs together after the judging 

 and carefully overhauled them, I found Launcelot the bet- 

 ter specimen, and he had some points to spare at that. Tbis 

 shows that one cannot be too careful in criticising dogs 

 which are of the same class. Both dogs are dished and shal- 

 low in muzzle, and are equal in bead properties. They are 

 also both of them light in eyes, Launcelot's being the "best. 

 But what I^aunce gams here he loses in quality (not carriage) 

 of ears, Tribulation's being best. Launcelot is to-day 

 rather coarse in neck and is beaten by Tribulation. In 

 straightness of forelegs Trib gains a point, but loses it and 

 some more in his long, light pasterns. In feet Lauuce is a 

 good winner, also in knees. In back, ribs, loin, strength of 

 quarters and hocks Launce is away ahead, and he also scores 

 in formation of stern. Both move in good style, but Launce 

 has much the more bone and power. T feel quite sure that 

 if Mr. Davidson had given them as careful an examination 

 as t did he wotild have reversed the decision. Two very use- 

 ful-looking ones turned up iu tlie corresponding class for 

 bitches. These were Sally Brass If., tbat should have won 

 at New York, and Giauca. There was a report abroad that 

 the former had the mange, but as soon as it was found that 

 the trouble was caused by a flea, she was allowed to compete, 

 and Giauca being a bit outclassed, Sally proved an easy 

 winner. Their good and bad points have been noticed in 

 other reports. With the decisions in the open classes I can- 

 not agree. Mr. Davidson judged them too rapidly, and I 

 shall be prepared to see him reverse someoftheawards aftera 

 more careful examination. Glen Morgan, first in dogs, has 

 been doing some winning of late, but I do not think he 

 is a show dog. He is a flash-looking, catchy flat-catcher 

 that deceives the eye at first sight and on close and careful 

 examination dwindles dowu to a bit of very inferior pointer 

 flesh. Let him stand in a certain position and he gives one 

 the idea that he is very good behind, but get him moving 

 and follow him closely and it is easy to see there are struc- 

 tural defects in his stifles, which alone are sufficient to ever 

 prevent him beating a fairly good dog. Not only is he bad 

 behind, but he is crooked in front, rather weak in knees, bad 

 in feet, wrong in hang of ears, flat in loin, throaty and he 

 .stands badly. To offset these defects there is nothing 

 but a fairly good head and chest and catchy color, with good 

 coat and average stern. I could not get him higher than 

 third. Wrong type, Mr. Biddlel A "gay deceiver" and not 

 a true pointer. Ossining, second prize, is not quite a show 

 dog. In addition to tUe defects noted in my New York 

 report, he is wide in front and his elbows are very apt to get 

 into wrong position. Still he is a gay, merry mover, has 

 good quarters and stifles, with clean hocks, enough jbone, 

 fairly good feet, a strong back and a moderate chest and 

 ribs. The class was a weak one, and I would have placed 

 him second a though he is a long way removed from good 

 form. He showed up much better than he did in the New 

 York "cellar." Inspiration, third prize, should, I think, 

 have won. To the defects noted in the New York report add 

 rather upright shoulders and elbows not in correct position. 

 He beats Ossining in muzzle, skull, carriage of ears, neck, 

 knees, feet (a trifle), stern and carriage of stern, strength of 

 loin, and is himself beaten in chest, shoulders (slightly), 

 position of elbows (slightly) and below the hips. Nimrod, 

 he, is a white and lemon with a black nose and dark eyes, 

 legacies of the defunct Bang Bang. A very wide blaze makes 

 his head look worse than it really is. Bad stifles, defective 

 hocks, stands over some at knees, flat loin, do with more 

 depth of middle, lacks symmetry, not a sbow dog. Nicode- 

 mus of Ion, reserve, a useful looking and sound dog, is weak 

 in head, high stationed, rather flat m loin, and has acquired 

 the habit of trying to scratch the back of his head vcith the 

 tip of his tail. I thought he pressed the first prize winner 

 very close for third place. He was shown light in flesh for 

 a leggy dog. Mam'zelle, first in bitches, is not one of my 

 sort. She is a rather catchy looking white and liver with 

 ticks, whose best points are in head .and tail. Eyes too light, 

 not clean cut below the eyes, wide in front, position of fore- 

 legs wrong, shoulders not well placed, not straight in front, 

 stands over at the knees, short ribs not deep enough and not 

 carried far enougb back, loin rather light and flat; good 

 coat, color, carnage of stern, and below hips, also about 

 right in ears. Naso's Belle, second prize, is another poor 

 specimen, and I would have pegged her back. She lacks in 

 head, carriage of ears, color of eyes, neck, stern, stifles and 

 hocks (slightly), and was shown much too heavy. 

 She is a white bitch with liver head markings 

 and ticked body. Fan Fan, third prize, is a white 

 and liver with lightly ticked bodj-. Lips not just 

 right, face dished (slightly), eyes too light, ears 'not 

 well carried, as a rule, but she can put them right; rather 

 long from the knee down, somewhat light iu bone, coar.se in 

 stern, fair good body and quarters, shows more true char- 

 acter than either first or second. Maygo, reserve, is a wbite 

 and liver ticked with a head of more than average merit, 

 albeit not perfect in lips. Throaty (a little), fairly good 

 body, a bit too round, loin could be improved by more arch, 

 not good behind, stern rather coarse, straight in bocks, short 

 from hips to stern, would do with more bone. Bloom, vhc. , 

 is a white and liver, very lightly ticked on body. Her head, 

 while rather heavy at all points for a bitch of her inches, is 

 not badly formed; rather throaty, eye too light, tail too long, 

 stands rather low at the shoulder, light in bone, shows 

 quality and true character. That she is not a high class 

 specimen is true, but she was, I think, good enough to win 

 in this company, and I would have placed her first with the 

 third prize winner second. Lady Graphic, he. , is well known 

 Her most prominent defects are in head, neck and forelegs. 

 She is a white and liver ticked, showing good breeding 

 through her several defects. Lassie Jean Beaufort, he, is a 

 white and liver ticked and was shown in nice fettle. She 

 has a clean cut and rather neat head, is throaty, not right in 

 stifles, flat in loin, does not carry her stern quite right, but 

 shows quality. Blomo III., vhc, gets her stern very high, 

 is light in eyes, not first class in feet, moderate in back and 

 rather light in bone. In hocks, stifles and formation of 

 stern there is lots of room for improvement. She is a white 

 and li vef, lightly ticked. Head is the hest part' of her. Win- 



chester Girl, he, was described at New York. Winchester 

 Gladys and Winchester Nan, both he, may do to breed from. 

 They are not up to show form. Flos.sie B., c. is a white and 

 dark liver, lightly ticked. She is plain in head, terribly 

 .straight behind, all wrong in stifles and she moves badly; 

 not a show ijitch. Puppies were a very funny lot. I have 

 notes on them, but do not wish to waste good paper and 

 printer's ink. The beat advice I can give the owners is to 

 drowm them and start over. As Graphic was suffering from 

 a temporary swelling of the neck the special for best pointer 

 in the show was very properly awarded to Revel HI. For 

 the kennel prize the Westrain.ster dogs of two or three types 

 and none iu first-rate condition, were fairly outclassed by 

 Graphic, Revel III., Launcelot and Sally Brass II., a very 

 sorty and level lot, showing strength and stoutness com- 

 bined with action, quality and correct pointer character. 



ENGLISH SETTERS— (Mr! DAVIDSON). 

 Report hy Mr. Mason. 

 There is no improvement in this breed, neither can there 

 be any until breeders snail have agreed as to what is the 

 right type. Take out a handful of imported dogs and the 

 breed as a whole has not advanced an inch since 1881. The 

 same reckless mating continues. There is little uniformity 

 of type, and not likely to be any for many years to come. 

 .Juggling with the standards and skipping about from one 

 type to another has proved a means of introducing a lot of 

 animals which are said to be the best in the world, but 

 which really could not take a he card in good company. 

 From Thunder to Paul Gladstone was a mighty sharp curve, 

 and from Paul Gladstone to Rockingham and' Rockingham 

 to Cincinnatus is like climbing a greasy pole— you get up a 

 foot and slip back a yard. Eight years ago the writer ad- 

 vised setter men notto breed to a bandy-legged, splay-footed 

 dog like Thunder. Major Taylor's friends replied that I had 

 gotten myknowledge of dogs" out of a barnyard in England. 

 Now these men get up a standard which tells us that the 

 type of dog that was winning iu Thunder's day was useless. 

 I should say it was, and ten years hence the Major will prob- 

 ably wake up .some morning and find that his friends have 

 dropped the Tennessee whippets and gone oft' on another 

 trail. Then wo will need a new standard. It is easy to pre- 

 dict what will become of the English setters in the mean 

 time. They will of course disappear as the pointers did at 

 the time when a lot of ignora,nt but well-meaning gentlemen 

 were breeding Sensations, Croxteths, Meteors, etc. The light 

 will dawn on a few who, like the Westminster Kennel Club 

 and Graphic Kennels, will clear out the rubbish and start 

 over again. To-day a man will breed to anything that has 

 four legs and can run. This was clearly demonstrated to 

 me at Bustoo, when I was making notes on a certain cross 

 between an English and a Tennessee setter. A man stand- 

 ing by remarked; "You ought to see him in the field; he is 

 as fast as a ghost. I'm going to breed a couple of bitches to 

 him tbis spring." "Indeed," said I; "why, I saw a dog 

 going up oar street the other day with a tin can to his tail, 

 and I would wager this dog never traveled half so fast in his 

 life, but I'm not going to breed to him." A few minutes 

 later I was in another part of the building, and I saw that 

 setter man sitting all alone on a dog box with his head 

 firmly planted between two tiny hands. He was doing 

 something he had probably seldom done before. He was 

 thinking. 



Mr. Davidson kept very close to the type which he insists 

 is the right one, and while I cannot agree with one or two 

 of his decisions there was none of that glaring work which 

 perplexes the beginner and never fails to bring dog shows 

 into bad repute. The challenge cla.sses were drawn blank. 

 Monk of Furness and the New York dogs were probably 

 being prepared for Chicago, and Cincinnatus is much too 

 wise a dog to face the music under any but Tennessee 

 judges. The open cla.ss for dogs was as good as the same 

 class at New York, and after a careful examination of the 

 competitors Mr. Davidson landed on bis old favorite, Kent 

 II., for first, with Gus Bondhu second and anew one, Prince 

 L., third. Kent II. has been in the money at New York, 

 Boston, Toronto and Ottawa, and is well-known. Never 

 good behind he is getting worse with aee. Old Gus, though 

 ten years old, looks just as well as he did when I saw him 

 at Boston five years ago. This is a dog in a thousand. He 

 ■ moved as well as any setter in the ring and does not show a 

 trace of age in his wise old face. Prince L., third prize, is a 

 Laverack possessing a number of good points. Head well 

 tormedj although a trifle coarse; inclined to be throaty; 

 hang of ears nob perfect; stands back a bit at the knees; a 

 trifle flat in loin; hocks should be lower; stifles should be a 

 little more out. These are his defects and none are very 

 pronounced. He is is not so neat and clean in the head as 

 the winner, but so vastly better is he behind and in move- 

 ment that 1 should have placed him first. There is room 

 for improvement in his condition. Ranger, reserve, is a 

 blue belton, by Rockingham out of American Girl. Head 

 lacking some in qualicy, it might be cleaner cut; rather 

 throaty; only fair in knees: coat not flat behind the withers; 

 feet inclined to turn outward; fairly good behind, save in 

 tail, which is too long; elbows not free enough; rather 

 coarse throughout. Canadian Locksley, vhc. , got all he was 

 entitled to. What a row Mr. Davey raised when I said this 

 dog was faulty in eyes, loin, stern and hocks. Now, Mr. 

 Davidson, who bred him, seldom gets him higher than vhc. 

 In addition to defects previously noted, add plain face and 

 wrong movement behind. Edge Mark, vhc, is a sound and 

 useful-looking dog, posses.sing many good points, but he 

 comes too near the Tennessee order to suit the judge, who, 

 after the raking the Major got in these columns for incon- 

 siderate and glaring work, seemed determined that none 

 but dogs of true English setter type should have any of the 

 money. This dog Edge Mark has been doing some winning, 

 and although he is by no means a bad one I think we have 

 heard quite a lot of nonsense about him. He is a white, 

 black and tan, flecked, standing on good forelegs and feet. 

 Head not clean cut below the eyes and lips, near nose, not 

 hanging just right (too tight); quarters and second thighs 

 rather light; hocks too far from the ground; stern should 

 be shorter; somewhat short from hips to set of stern; 

 ribs not sufficiently sprung. He is at present too light in j 

 flesh, but taken all in all, I like him better than Ranger. 

 Tony Gladstone, vhc, is ail out of condition and should have 

 been left at home. Mr. Davidson was generous to give him 

 a card and he was clearly out-classed by Edge Mark, who 

 was in the next kennel to him. Fair type of head, eyes a 

 shade or two light, good lengthy neck, proper shoulders, 

 stands back a bit at knees (which in his present bad condi- 

 tion may result from weakness), might have more depth in 

 middle, back ribs not deep enough, long, badly carried stern; 

 coat hard and dry. I would have put him out of the ring as 

 not in flt condition to be shown. Rex, he, is a big, upstand- 

 ing, pretty dog with dish face, wrong eye and expression, 

 bad feet, open coat and a very spaniely appearance in front. 

 He was in elegant condition but is not a show dog. Flush, 

 he, is a big, coarse dog, heavy in .skull, none too good in 

 ears, very straifiht and bad behind and cut away below the 

 hips. His good bone, forelegs and feet won him notice. 

 Glen Belton, he, was described in the New York report. He 

 has come on some since then. Young Gath, Jr., e, isa' 

 white, black and tan, good in chest, forelegs and feet, but 

 bad at both ends. His Grace, e, is a big, coarse, white and 

 lemon without a pedigree, which is not the greatest draw- 

 back. Forest Tatton, c, is not in good condition, especially 

 in coat, or would surely have been higher on the list. Too 

 high and straight in hocks, loin not well turned, fair good 

 head, legs and feet and not without character. Among the 

 unnoticed ones Prince Hasty is fairly good in skull and ears, 

 but defective in ribs (too flat), lour (light), knees, quartew 



(narrow), stern (too long), and the left foreleg appears to 

 have been injured at some time. Dover is a red dog with 

 feather on legs and stern. Leo M. is one of the old native 

 white and lemons, short in neck, weak in head properties 

 and lacking in true character. Paul H. is a better dog than 

 Rex that got a c. card, albeit rather coarse and sour in bead 

 and shallow in middle, good forelegs and feet. Spot is a 

 white and liver showing ."spaniel character and having a note 

 book full of defects. Royal Arthur, big in name but light 

 in setter quality, is bad in head and coat. He has a lovely 

 butterfly nose, all well enough in a circus horse, but not the 

 right thing for the English setter class. Prince Edward 

 belongs in the same category. Bitches were a rather mixed 

 lot and judging the class was the hardest kind of a task. 

 Blue Nell, that has found a coat since Hast saw her, was 

 finally put aside for first. She has gone in cheeks and is too 

 bad in front legs and feet to suit me. Albert's Nellie, second 

 prize, is not of the same type as many of Mr. Davidson 

 winners, but she showed fewer structural defects than any- 

 thing in the class, and for this reason, combined with the 

 fact of her showing quality and strength for her size, I 

 would have placed her first on this occasion. She is 

 an undersized white, black and tan with flecked 

 body. Stop and below eyes not clearly defined, good 

 neck, eyes a shade light, expression not quite right, 

 rather long from the knee down and inclined to stand back 

 at the pasterns; fair good shoulders, good neck; set of legs 

 might be better; stem a bit too long, but well carried; 

 hocks too straight,; very small, but not weedy. Blue 

 Jennie, third prize, is a taking-looking one. She has just 

 raised a litter and is very soft and flabby, besides being too 

 fat. My note book says: Muzzle and below eyes not clean 

 cut; good skull; head well set; plenty of bone; not quite 

 straight in front; good back; strong loin; stifles and hocks 

 not right: tail not well carried: does not move well behind: 

 proper coat; shows quality: catchy. Jessie Noble III., re- 

 .serve, possesses quite a number of good points. She is a blue 

 belton of modest manners and showed up badly in the ring. 

 Coat not free of curl; not right below the eyes; lips, near 

 no.se, not hanging well; eyes might be better; fair good 

 body, legs and feet; stern not very well carried; shows qual- 

 ity.' In the condition in which the third prize winner was 

 shown I think this bitch should have gone ahead of her. 

 However, she acted badly in the ring and out of it, and 

 tasked my patience to get a fair description of her. Flirt, 

 vhc, was not on the bench, neither could I find her. Quite 

 a number of dogs have a bitter dislike to my pen, and possi- 

 bly she is one of them. Maud Noble, vhc, is handicapped 

 with a small yellow eye and poor expression, but she is a 

 strong, sound bitoh, with good body and correct legs and 

 feet. She may not be able to beat the third prize winner 

 when that bitch is in tip top condition, but I think that in 

 the present condition of both dogs Maud Noble should have 

 been ahead. Katie Howard, vhc, is a blue belton, by Count 

 Howard out of Princess Phoebus, blood good enough to build 

 a kennel on if judiciously used. Will it be? A neat head, 

 spoiled a bit by slight fullness below the eyes; legs not in 

 good position; not perfectly straight in front; feet inclined 

 to turn out; light in bone, coat in fine condition; good top; 

 straight in hocks; deep, well-formed chest; moves fairly 

 well; if right in legs would take a good one to beat her. 

 Lady Snowflake, c.-, would be improved by white face mark- 

 ings. Her black head and muzzle, edged'with tan, does not 

 add to her appearance, and has the same eft'ect as a black 

 head on a fox-terrier. Feet and pasterns moderate; heavy 

 in front; hocks too much bent and showing weakness; down 

 a bit behind shoulders. Princess Novel, he, as she stands 

 to-day is not clean cut in face; yellow eyes; stands back at 

 knees; well-turned body: coat short and inclined to be 

 woolly; hocks too high and straight; a big, roomy bitch, 

 somewhat coarse throughout. Puppies, with the exception 

 of the winner, that will never become a crack, were a miser- 

 able collection; and surely it is time breeders stopped to 

 think what they are doing." Hundreds of thousands of dol- 

 lars have been invested in English setters during the past 

 ten years, and it is humiliating to have to admit that we 

 have accomplished so little in the way of improvement. 



IRISH SETTERS— (MR. DAVIDSON). 

 Report by Mr. Mason. 

 Certain owners and reporters have been telling us since 

 the New York show that Irish setters are improving. Such 

 statements are easily made, but the man does not live who 

 can put forth evidence to support them. There is not a high 

 class Irish setter dog on the bench to-day and with Molly 

 Bawn out of condition there is not a high class bitch. Look 

 at the classes and then go back to the time when Jarvis 

 with Elcho, Jr., Wenzel with Chief and Tim, Pierce with 

 Glencbo, Roberts with the typical-headed Bruce, Clarke 

 with Blarney and Dunphy with MoUy Bawn (at her best) 

 appeared at the shows. It needed an Irish setter to win in 

 those days, and dogs that could not possibly have done bet- 

 ter than vhc. are now winning, and in some cases winning 

 ea.sily. Breeders were on the right track but it vs'as all too 

 good to last. A handful of breeders with a correct idea of 

 type raised the breed to a high level of excellence, and now 

 that they have relaxed their efforts the beginner is having 

 an inning. The result we see. New York showed a marked 

 falling oft' in the quality of the exhibits. It was the same 

 at Boston, although there were plenty of dogs. The chal- 

 lenge classes were represented by Max A,, Kildare, 'W'inuie 

 II. and Ruby Glenmore. Max'A. I have criticised before, 

 but dogs, like other things, are apt to change with age and 

 conditions, so I will go over him again. Rather plain about 

 stop and below eyes, but not a bad head, it lacks that clean 

 cut, bony and neat appearance which one likes to see in this 

 breed, shows some jowl and too much neck skin, ribs not 

 sufficiently sprung, loin should be more arched, hocks 

 rather high, good straight legs which are going a bit at the 

 pasterns, would be better if shorter from knee to ground, 

 eyes and ears about right, good coat, carriage correct, a dog 

 of good size and showing some quality. His color is about 

 right. Kildare, in his present condition, was rightly placed. 

 He is a good topped dog. better in skull than Max, has well- 

 placed ears and if put in tip-top shape would crowd and 

 maybe beat him. Defects: Shows some throatiness, shoul- 

 ders not first rate, not perfectly straight in front, out of con- 

 dition, especially in coat; decision on this occasion correct. 

 The bitches have been criticised recently. 



Inchiquin, first in dog class, was very fully and carefully 

 criticised in my New York report. I see nothing to change. 

 He was in grand shape. Dan Mylrea, second prize, is a new 

 one to me. He is defective in skull (too flat), ch eeks(too full), 

 muzzle (not clean cut nor quite right in lips), eyes (too light), 

 and he might be better in chest (it's a bit wide), straightness 

 in front and also in hocks. He is a useful-looking customer, 

 not rangy enough for an Irishman (running too much to the 

 English type), but he has a strong, .sound frame, plenty of 

 bone, good feet, a nice coat and a flne color. Beau Bruminel 

 has been temporarily injured m one hock, he was light inflesh 

 and dull in coat. Those who have circulated the report that 

 he is a cripple should be careful lest they hurt themselves 

 more than the dog or his owner. For criticisms see New 

 York show report in Forest And Stream, March 5, and in 

 addition to defects therein noted add too straight in hocks 

 and lacking width through thighs and second thighs. Jacque- 

 minot, reseiwe, was second at Boston last year. Head ratner 

 plain and coarse, though not actually bad, eyes a shade light, 

 better than average ears, rather long from knees to ground, 

 feet inclined outward, loin too short, falls too much from 

 hips to stern, carriage of stern not perfect, color on and 

 about quarters too light. Bluff, vhc, I did not find on the 

 bench. Blaze, vhc, not clearly defined in stop, ears of good 

 quality and well .set, eyes rather light, a fairly-good head, 



