288 PEOFESSOR LIONEL S. BEALE, E.R.C.P., F.K.S., ON THE 



but possibly it might have some bearing upon it. The resurrection 

 of the body, or of the spiritual body, would seem to be under that 

 view, not the passage of the life, but the power of the dying and 

 saved individual to transfer into the spiritual body that life which 

 he himself possesses. The whole subject is one, if very vague and 

 indefinite, yet worthy of consideration, and I will just throw out 

 that postulate to Professor Beale. 



Professor Beale. — I should like very much if Professor Hull 

 would join some of us in trying to get some of these matters 

 discussed from the scientific side. I should venture to suggest that 

 life is a power belonging to the order spiritual, and therefore I 

 should not speak of it as a condition. 



Brigade Surgeon J. Eobinson. — I would like to ask whether the 

 " material eternal universe," on p. 275, refers to a past eternity — that 

 there is no creation at all of matter as matter; or whether the 

 eternity here spoken of is a prospective one. In what sense is that 

 eternity to be understood 1 



Professor Beale.— Matter in difi'erent forms — the cosmos. It is 

 lifeless, absolutely lifeless. 



Mr. Eobinson. — I meant to ask as to calling matter into 

 existence ^ 



Professor Beale. — I do not say whether it can be changed. 



Mr. Robinson. — I heard Mrs. Besant lecture at Reading, and on 

 this question she at once, without hesitation, said it was a very 

 stupid idea on my part to conceive that matter was not eternal. 

 Matter, as matter, through its ultimate developments, might be the 

 formation of a cosmos. 



Professor Beale. — May we not do all we can first to make out 

 the nature of the things nearest to us, and then consider those far 

 away afterwards 1 



Rev. J. TucKWELL. — I think it is extremely difficult to express 

 what we all feel on this exceedingly useful and suggestive paper. 

 There are one or two points which I think may be wisely emphasised 

 by us in our thinking over the matter. What struck me as being 

 of very great value was what the Professor has called the necessity 

 of supposing that in biological existence, behind and antecedent to 

 it, there must be some designing, some intelligent, some vital force. 

 Now I think if we take that thought and read Professor Beale's 

 paper with it in our minds, it may be of very great service to us. 



