April 7, 1892.] 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



841 



The Auburn Gun Club's Great Day. 



The pretty little town of Auburn, N. Y., has a number of won- 

 ders, chief among these being the Auburn Gun Club, the "Big 

 Four," and the Osborne House. The order in which these won- 

 ders rank depends somewhat upon the object of your visit. If to 

 shoot put the club No. 1; if to eat, drink and rest in good style, the 

 hotel occupies the premier pos'tiou; but if you go there to shoot 

 and have a good time the famous "Big Four" will be pointed out 

 to the visitor as perpetual possessors of the right of the line, re- 

 gardless of the rank of those who are crowded to the wall. The 

 great Auburn Prison, the fine shaded drives, the handsome and 

 well Appointed hoteis, stores, etc., the chain of beautiful lakes 

 within reach of the town, all these pale when compared to the 

 attractions pointed out by the magic quartette. If you want to 

 skin over the road at a 2.25 clip, Eddy .Parker's pacer and side- 

 bar buggy are at your disposal in a j iffy. If you are in the humor 

 for a skim over the water, Lew Devitt knows just where to find a 

 yacht Teady to start. If hunger assails you, Kddy Cosgrove can 

 show you a model restaurant, where "all the comforts of home" 

 will be placed at your dipposal, and if you want anything in the 

 way of sport and frolic, Jack Titus wit] assist the above mentioned 

 three in guiding you to theatre or club room. Yea, verily, the 

 "Big Four" are a great institution who are bowed down to in 

 homage by the rest of the Auburnites. 



But it was not the above jolly quartette alone which prompted 

 Milt Lindsley and the writer on March 30 to take a train at TJtica 

 and stop off at Syracuse to shake hands with jovial George Luther, 

 go to Fulton to meet whole-souled Harvey McMurchy and sedate 

 George Mosher, and be conducted through the colossal gun plant 

 of the Hunter Arms Company, Mr. McMurchy meanwhile giving 

 a practical workiDg illustration of the method of manufacturing 

 the L. C. Sm i- th gun, of which history 1 shall have more to say ih 

 the near future. Harvey's California road-runner and his boa- 

 constrictor skin, the trophy won during the great trip of the TJ. 8. 

 Cartridge Company, and other interesting relics all came in for 

 their share of attention at the factory. Then came the return 

 trip to Syracuse, the meeting with handsome Al Spangler, who 

 does all the high-grade engraving on thp L. C. Smith gun. and 

 with Charley Mowry, who says the .Sporting Goods Gazette is 

 booming. Next in order was an enjoyable hour at the table in 

 the Burns House, Harvey being the host, Al Spangler, Milt Lind- 

 sley, and your humble servant being guests. After supoer hurried 

 "good-byes" were uttered and soon "we two" were speeding to- 

 ward Auburn to be on hand the next day when Pan' North, of the 

 Cleveland Target Company, was to show New Yorkers bow to 

 throw bluerock targets from the new expert traps by aid of the 

 North electric trap pull, and also give a practical illustration of 

 the working of his recently concocted system of handicapping. 



When the American Wood Powder and Forest and Stream 

 reached the Aubu rn Gun Club grounds, on the morning of Thurs- 

 day, the fun was well under way and a big crowd was present. 

 There were many there who had been met at TJtica two days 

 before, these including Messrs. Tuttle, Luther, Mosher, Mowry, 

 Holloway, Courtney and Hookway. In addition there was rosy- 

 faced W. E. Park, of Athens, Pa., who looks after the road 

 interests of the Wilkesbarre Gun Company's Parry gun: Harry E. 

 Whitney, the world-renowned "boy wonder," who hails from 

 Phelps, N. Y., and shoots in his same old winning pace; .James 

 Montgomery and Win. Ashton, of Syracuse; A. C. Babcock, 

 Stewart and Newton, of the Rochester Rod and Gun Club; and 

 McCorcnack, of Ithaca. There was also genial D. M. Lefever, of 

 the Lefever Arms Company, of Syracuse, who shoots a stiff gait 

 and overflows with good nature; and Paul North, looking as rugged 

 aud bright-eyed as ever, despite a troublesome cold. The local 

 club was represented by nearly a score of shooting members, Chas. 

 E. Tuttle being the chief hustler. The sky was slightly overcast 

 during the day, giving the favorite gray shade, and the air was 

 raw and damp. Shortly after noon the clouds began to look 

 threatening, but fortunately the rain did not take a hand and 

 spoil the eanie. 



The grounds where the shoot took place are situated about a 

 mile and a quarter from the center of the town and are owned by 

 the Auburn Gun Club. They have a shooting house about 40 x 20ft. 

 with a 16ft. roof. Extending the whole length of the building 

 and about lUft. in width is a porch from which the shooting can 

 be viewed and wherelthe shooters can be protected from the sun 

 when not at the traps. The above mentioned house is to the 

 right of the entrance, to the left of which is a 10x15 building for 

 the storage of traps, targets, etc. The club has arranged for one 

 of the tournaments of the Inter-State Manufacturers' and Deal- 

 ers' Association to he held on these grounds during the latter 

 part of July or early in August, before which time they propose 

 expending several hundred dollars in needed improvements to 

 houses and grouuds. The foreground is fine for target work, 

 although I am inclined to think that they would not be a grand 

 success for live bird events, the ground pitching in a dozen dif- 

 ferent ways between the traps and the boundary fence. 



The shooting was done from 5 expert traps, under the rapid- 

 firing system, about 4.500 bluerock targets being thrown. Out of 

 this number I doubt if more thon 25 were broken, and for some 

 of these breakages the trappers were directly responsible. The 

 North electric pull worked perfectly as usual, and taken all in all 

 Paul North was fully entitled to the congratulations showered 

 upon him after the shoot. His new system of handicapping, how- 

 ever, was what proved the most interesting to the shooters. The 

 system was tried for the first time, and I am inclined to think, 

 with all due respect for those who conceived the famous expert- 

 amateur -system, that the North system would supersede all 

 others if given an impartial trial. The expert-amateur system is 

 such as to perpetually handicap a man who shoots above a given 

 percentage, even though a high average one day may be a clear 

 case of luck on the part of the shooter. For instance, at the 

 Williamsport tournament last summer, one amateur on the first 

 day rolled up an average of (I think) 91 per cent. On the next day 

 he was moved into the expert class, the result being that as he 

 was a steady loser in shooting at unknown angles he withdrew 

 from the ranks, so far as the circuit was concerned. This is only 

 one of a number of instances where men have drawn out rather 

 than shoot under a system which handicaps to he sure losers. 



The Paul North system does not place a perpetual handicap 

 upon an individual because he chances to "fluke" into a phenome- 

 nal gait in a few sweeps, hut simply handicaps a man as long as he 

 shoots into first or second position. For instance: In Event No. 

 1, at Auburn, each man shot at 10 targets from known traps and 

 known angles. G. C. Luther and Paul North broke 10 each and 

 took first money: Chas. Tuttle, Geo. Mosher and R. Peterson 

 broke 9 each and took second money. This made these men ex- 

 perts for the next event. This was at 10 targets. The "experts" 

 shot first from unknown trap* at unknown angles, the amateurs, 

 or those who failed to get in first or second position in No. 1, fol- 

 lowing at known traps and known angles. In event No. 2 of the 

 five "experts," Mosher broke 10, Luther 8, Tuttle 7, Peterson 7 and 

 North 6. Of the amateurs, Carr broke 9, no one else getting more 

 than 8. The result of this was that Mosher (first money in No. 3) 

 and Carr (second money in No. 2) comprise the experts in No. 3, in 

 which event Tuttle, Luther. Peterson and North (experts in No. 2) 

 were returned to the ranks of the ama'eurs. 



No. 3 was at 15 Bingles. Lindsley breaking 15 and getting first 

 money while second money went to Whitney on 14 breaks. 

 Mother (first money in No. 8) did not enter; Carr (second money 

 in No. 2) also kept out. This put Lindsley and Whitney in the ex- 

 pert class for No. 4. This explanation gives a clear idea of the 

 working of the system, the great advantage of which is that it 

 handicaps a man only when he wins a first or second position and 

 relieves him of the handicap as soon as he fails to secure either of 

 those positions. Thus a man may be able to go above 90 per cent 

 at all times in shooting at known angles and may not be able 

 under any circumstances to win a place shooting at unknown 

 angles. In a ten-event shoot this man has a chance to win a 

 place in every alternate shoot when the North system is used. 

 Take North and Lindsley in the above events. In the first and 

 seventh events North won a first or second position with the 

 amatf urs. In No. 2 he shot as an expert, failed to get one of the 

 above positions aud went back to the amateur ranks. In No 8 he 

 won seoond position as an expert, shot as the same in No. 9 and 

 failed to be placed, which returned him once more to the amateur 

 ranks. Lindsley srot into first position as an amateur in No. 3, 

 failed to get a place in No. 4 as an expert, andfwas put back with 

 the amateurs. In No. 8 he again got a place and in No. 9 broke 

 5 a* an expert, which sent him to amateurdom once more. 



After carefully studying the workings of the system and weigh- 

 ing the opinions of those who tried it at Auburn I can form no 

 other opinion than that it is the most equitable yet devised and 

 that a fair trial would give it a firm hold on the shooters of the 

 country. 



There is one thing, however, to be considered iu shooting under 

 this system and that is the number of targets in the event. If pos- 

 sible all the events should be at 15 or 2d targets each. A man may 

 be able to hold himself together to break 10 straight and yet may 

 be unable to hold anywhere the same pace in a 20-bird event. It 

 is scarcely fair to compel a man to shoot, at 20 targets from un- 

 known angles and traps because in the previous event he has 

 broken 10 straight as an amateur. This matter can, of course, be 

 easily regulated by the clubs using the system. I should be well 

 pleased to see the system tried in various parts of the country and 

 hear expressions of opinion from all shooters iso. regard to itg 

 merits or demerits 



During the day's shoot a bountiful supply of sandwiches, pies 

 and hot coffee was kept in the shooting house and was done full 

 justice to by all the visitors. The members of the club exerted 

 themselves to give everybody a good time and pleased all around. 



Quite a number of prominent people were at t he grounds during 

 the day, among them being the mayor of the town and several 

 alderman. One of the latter. Alderman E. D. Parker, was im- 

 pressed into the position of trap-puller, and for an hour he held 

 the battery on his lap and pressed the buttons. It was a great 

 day, not only for the Auburn Gun Club but for Paul North and the 

 bluerocH people as well. In several of the events the score-sheets 

 show considerably above thirty entries. In the evening the club 

 gave an informal reception to a number of the visiting sportsmen 

 at their club rooms in the city. They occupy three very large 

 rooms, which were at. this time undergoing extensive repairs. Oue 

 room is to be converted into a billiard and pool room, another 

 will be the sitting room and library, which will also be utilized as 

 a meeting room, while the third will be a general lounging room, 

 equipped with tables for cards, chess and other games. A number 

 of the members are enthusiastic rifle and pistol shooters, and for 

 their benefit a range will be constructed. When completed these 

 rooms will be as well equipped as any in the country. Below will 

 be found detailed scores of all events shot: 



Ten singles, $1: White 9, North 7, Hadden 5, Pelton 7, Vander- 

 loo 5, Carr 9. Park 8, Whitney 8 Tuttle 8. Whitt 7, Goodrich 5. 



Same conditions: White 8, North 8, Hadden 3, Vanderloo 4, 

 Carr 10, Park 9, Whitney 9, Tuttle 7, Goodrich 6, Allen 1, Peot, 1, 

 Peterson 9, 



No. 1, 10 blueroeka. $1: 



Whyte 0011001101-5 



Carr 1011111100— 7 



Whitney 0111101111— 8 



Tuttle 1111011111— 9 



Park 10001011U— 6 



Cotirtney 1101111110- 8 



Hookway 1111101100- 7 



Lefever 0111101110- 7 



Mosher 1101111111— 9 



Mowry 1111110010- 7 



Luther 1111111111—10 



Peterson 1111101111— 9 



Wheaton 1111111100- 8 



Hadden 1110110111— 8 



North 1111111111-10 



No. 2, 10 bluerocks, ST. 



Tuttle U010110U— 7 



Luther 1111111001— 8 



Mosher 11 11111111—10 



Peterson lOOlHOlll- 7 



North 1011011100— 6 



Carr 1111110111- 9 



Hadden 1100010100 - 4 



Lindsley 0101U01010- 4 



Montgomery 0111101111— 8 



Vanderloo 1101111001- 7 



Holloway 1111000101- 6 



Courtney 0011011111— 8 



Lefever 0111011011- 7 



Mowry 1001111001— 6 



Hookway 0010011110— 5 



Walters 1111100110- 7 



No. 3, 15 bluerocks, $1 50: 



Brigden 11010110011111—10 



Shultz 11111111101010—12 



Stewart 11111110011111—12 



McCother 11111111011110-13 



McCormick . . . .11111000110011—10 



Whyte 11001001110001— 7 



Lindsley 11111111111111—15 



North 11011011111110-12 



Montgomery... 11111001000100— 8 



Tripp: 01110001010010— « 



Tuttle 11111111111101-13 



Park 11110111111101—12 



No. 4, 10 bluerocks, Si: 



Lindsley 1111111010- 8 



Whitney 1011011111- 8 



Whyte 01001 Hill— 7 



Brigden 1111110111- 0 



Rich 0011101001- 9 



Luther 1111111111—10 



Webster 1011000101- 5 



Mosher 0111011111— 8 



McCormick 1010100011— 5 



North 1111011101- 8 



Hadden 1011011100- 6 



Tuttle 1111111111-10 



Peterson 0011010000- 3 



No. 5, 10 kingbirds. $1: 



Luther 1110101101— 7 



Tuttle 1110100110— 6 



Hookway 1011010110- 6 



Brieden 0111001000 - 4 



Lindsley 1011111101— 8 



North 1011001111— 7 



Webster 1100111011— 7 



Knapp 1110110011— 7 



Goodrich lllllOOHO- 7 



Comrade 1101111111— 9 



McCormick 1110011101— 7 



Mosher 1111111111-10 



Newton 1110011101- 7 



Whyte 1101011010— 6 



No. 6, 20 bluerocks, $2: 

 Mosher. . .11111110011111101001—15 

 Stewart.. .11111111111111111111— 20 

 Comrade . 10110111 010111101 111-15 

 Courtney .10111 11 1101111111110 -17 

 Mowry. . . . 10110111111010111111—16 



North 11111011010111110111—16 



Lindsley . .10 1 10O1110011111O111— 14 

 Brigden . .10101111110111101111—17 

 M'CornriUlOllllOlllOmoiOll— 15 

 Uolloway.OlllllilOlinilimi— 18 

 Schultz. . .lllllllOllimoiOllll-H 



Carr 10110110111 10001011 1—13 



Hookway.lllilllO.Olimillll- 

 Whyte. . . .lllOOOllllOilllOllll 



Walters 0110111111— 8 



Vanderloo 10011 1001 1— « 



Montgomery 0001011111- 0 



Hallo wa y 1111001001- 6 



Garrett 1111111010- 8 



Rich 1001101110- '6 



Ashton 1111110110- 8 



Comrad 001U111U— 8 



Webster 1011011101- 7 



Lindsley 1001110001- 5 



Egbert 1001110100— 5 



McCormick 0111111110— 8 



Hill 1111000011- K 



Stevens 1010100010- 4 



Ashton 0100010100- 



Park 1111110050- 



Whitney nOlillilO- 



Whyte 1011110111— 



McCormack 0111111110— 



Wheaton HOllliuOO— 



Garrett 1010100111- 



Goodrich 111011 J 110 — 



Shultz 0110101111 — 



Stewart 1111111001- 



Comrade POHHHOl— 



Brigham OllllOloll— 



Webster .. OOOUIIOII— 



Brrnes 0000110000— 



Egbert 0001100100— 



Newton Oinoiliooo- 



Courtney 111111111100111-13 



Walters 01101100110111 1— 10 



Mowry llllllllOOlllOl— 12 



Ashton 110100001111101— 9 



Holloway OllllllOlllllOo— 11 



Lefever 101011111101000-10 



Whitney 111101111111111—14 



Comrade 11111 0011101111—13 



Vanderloo. . . .111100101111111—12 



Hookway llloOlllllllOlO-U 



Thayer OOOllOOOOt 01001— 5 



Goodrich 110110101001011— 9 



Carr 0011111011— 7 



Comrade 1110110111— 8 



Park 011 110 1111— 8 



Schultz Oinioillll— 7 



Vanderloo 0010011111— 6 



Montgomery 0101110010— 5 



Holloway 1110010100— 5 



Courtney 0110111111— 8 



Hookway llllllllll-lO 



Mowrv 1111011010- 7 



Lafever 010 1 000010— 



Walters 0111110001— _ 



Ashton 1000011100- 4 



Vanderloo 1101100011— 6 



Peterson lOOlllOOll— ti 



Park........... HOimilO— 8 



Carr...' 0000011100— 3 



Whitney 0011101011- 6 



Stewart 1111111111—10 



Schultz 1000110011— 5 



Hadden 1100111011— 7 



Courtney 1111111110— 9 



Lafever 1101111000 - 6 



Walters 110100011 1— 6 



Monry 1111111101— 9 



Holloway Ololllllli— 8 



Montgomery 1001110010— 5 



No. 7. 15 bluerocks, $1.50 entry: 



Stewart 110111111111111—14 



Luther 110110111110111-12 



Lindsley 111111100111010-11 



Comrade 110111111011111—13 



Whitney 011101111111001-11 



McCormick. . . .111110111011111-13 



Bridges 110111011101110-11 



Carr 111111011111111-14 



Webste r 1101 10011111001-10 



rr.L-.i-i. ■ '.Li:- i 



North 111111110111111-14 



Ga rr ett 001 100100100000— 4 



Shulte 110111101111101—12 



No. 8, 10 bluerocks, $1: 



Stewart 1111111101—9 



Carr 0001101111— fi 



North.... 1111101111—9 



McCormick 0101110110—6 



Comrade 1111011100—7 



Mosher 0110110110-6 



Mowry 110101011 L— 7 



Hook way 0100010111-5 



Whyte 1011011111-8 



Newton 1011111101-8 



Courtney 1101111001—7 



Holloway 1001001000-3 



Lindsley lOlOHllll-8 



Brigden 1101111010-7 



Stewart .1110010011-6 



No. 9, 10 bluerocks, SI: 



North 0111101101-7 



Tuttle OlUlllllO-8 



Luther 1110101011—7 



Whimey 101U10U1-8 



Ne » ton. 1 111100000-5 



Whyte 1100110010-5 



Lefever 1 110011110—7 



Parka 1011110111-8 



Lindsley 1010110010-5 



Stewart 0000111111-6 



Shullz 1110111011-S 



Mosher iooiouiii-7 



Nellis 

 Tabor 

 Tuttle .. 

 Luther. . 

 Feree . . . 

 Newton. . 

 Church.. 

 Barnes... 



Rich 



Whitney. 

 Lyons . . 

 Davitt... 

 Church.. 



10011000110111101010—11 

 .10100001101011010111—11 

 .11111101111111111100-17 

 .11111111111111111110-10 

 .10100000100101010001 - ti 

 .10111110101111111110—16 

 .01010011110101001101-11 

 .01011111101001 101000-11 

 . 1110111111001 0111100—14 

 ..11110110010111100101—13 



.oooiiiooioiiuomui-12 



.11111001001111011101—14 

 . 010111100000101011 11—11 



Tuttle 001U 1 1 1 10001001- 7 



Ne wton 1111 10111111110—13 



Park 10011 1 11U00 ill— 11 



Davitt 101001111110001— i) 



Barnes llOOlllllOOlOol— 9 



Lyons OOOlllloiOOOUO— 7 



Smyth 001101110111010- 9 



MoBher llllllllllimO— 14 



Lefever 110011011000010- 7 



Mowry 111111101111111—14 



Courtney lOUlllllllOOOl— 13 



Hookway 111101111111111-14 



Holloway 11101 million —13 



Luther Olllllllii- 9 



Tuttle 1011111111—9 



Webster ODOOOlOOl— I 



Shultz 1011111111-9 



Whitney 1110111111— 9 



Park 1111011111-9 



Lefever HOlllllll— 9 



Mattus 0101000000— 2 



Nellis 0110100100—4 



White 1111010100-6 



Barnes IlOOlOi ill— T 



Lyons 0100110011— 5 



Davitt 0110100010-1 



Hadden 10U01010O-5 



Peterson 0000110100—3 



Mowry .1110111111—9 



Hookway 1111101111— t» 



Ashton 1101110111-8 



Holloway. . . 10111U110— s 



Courtney. Ill 11 11101— 9 



Moore. 1011111101— s 



Garrett . .1111009100— 5 



Comrade 10im0111-8 



McCormick 0111010 1 11- 7 



Brigden 1111100000 -5 



Nellis 1110100001-5 



Carr.., loiooioill-s 



Cleveland Gun Club. 



GleveT/AND, March 3.— There was an excellent afternoon of 

 sport at the Cleveland Gun Club traps to-day, which was thor- 

 ouehly enjoyed by the large attendance. Iu the rpgular club 

 shoot Tarnblyn won the first badge in Class A after a fie Redwing 

 and Holt won the second badge in the same class after tieiug with 

 Saffqld. Watts won first badge iu Class B and Albert second. 

 The following are the scores: 



Redwing 111111111011010111011111111111—86 



Tambl y n . 111111 011101111 1111111 1 1 110101-26 



El worthy 1111 1 V 01011101 UlllOU 1101010-22 



Page ,.10lOOll01I11000mill11IlI1101-23 



S«ff"ld 10011111 1111111101 Dim 1 110010-23 



Watts 111011110011111 110011000J 11101-21 



Alberts utWiilOUlOly'ilOliUlOluOOOlOl-^J! 



Holt tonoioM i mm i ion mi 01111-23 



Visitors. 



Gaylord 13 Joe 18 McDonald 15 



JIC 22 Judge ..16 Hart 24 



Davis 8 Alex 20 



Shoot-off for first badge won by Tarnblyn: for second badge by 

 Holt. 



Two teams were chosen at the end of the club shoot, and the re- 

 sult was one of the prettiest team races that ever was shot on the 

 grounds. In the first Redwing's side won by 2 birds, and was de- 

 feated in the second by 5. The scores are as follows: 

 First Shoot. 



Redwing llOlomilll— 10 Tamblyn 101001011101- 7 



Hart 111111111111—12 Alex 100111111011— 7 



Elworthy lUlllOlOlll— 10 JIC 111011110111-10 



Saffold 011001000111— 6 Holt 101100110100- 6 



Joe 111110111001— 9 Watts 001111111111-10 



McDonald.... OiOOOOOOOoOl— 2-49 Judge 001010100101- 5—4? 



Second Shoot. 



McDonald.... 101011110001— 7 Judge 111011100011- 8 



Joe 111001111011- 9 Watts lOOimoilll— 9 



Siffold 010001111110 - 7 Holt 011111000101- 7 



Elworthy 110111011101— 9 JIC 111111111000- 9 



Hart lOlOlllonil— 9 Alex 101111111111—11 



Redwing 101011110001- 7-48 Tamblyn 101101111101- 9-53 



Boiling Springs Gun Club. 



As interesting shoot was held at. Rutherford on Saturday. 

 Five events at 10 targets and one at 15 were shot, the results being 

 as follows: 



Hollister 7 5 9 7 12 8 Paul # 



Apgar 9 9 10 9 12 



Knox 5 5 7 5 13 



James 6 



Klees 9 6 9 7 9 



Huck 9 10 .. .. 



Greiff 7 6 6 8 11 .. 



Meyer 6 6 7 10 13 8 



Lin 



5 Flaig 3 



7 Pellen 7 



8 Matzan , . 5 



5 Peck 6 



Krebs 



9 6 11 . . 



4 9 9 10 .. 



4 'a 'ti 7 



4 5 a 9 .. 



6 6 8 13 . . 



^mwt\n to ^omspandmts* 



t-W No Notice Taken of Anonymous Correspondents. 



W. E. L., Peoria, 111.— 1. I have noticed that many of the green- 

 wioged teal shot here have the under parts very much tinged with 

 reddish while others are not. Ihave noticed it on certain canvas- 

 backs too, but cannot account for it. Could it be owing to the 

 water they were in? I have seen pools of water that were so full 

 of iron or other mineral substance that they would color a hand- 

 kerchief if placed in it. Would somebody explain it? 2. How 

 can one distinguish the lesser scaup or little bJuebill from the 

 greater scaup or big bluebill? Duck shootiug is fairly good ard 

 the weather fine. Ans. 1. The matter of the rusty coloration of 

 water birds' feathers has been much discussed, and the opinion is 

 that expressed by our correspondent. It is possible that the de- 

 caying vegetation in the standing pools may ajao exert an influ- 

 ence in this coloring, but mineral matter is the chief agent. 2. 

 Size is the distinguishing character. 



L. W., Concord, N. H.— What flies and of what size should be 

 used in the Adirondacks, in vicinity of Fulton Chain of Lakes, 

 about the middle of June? Ans. For brook trout use red and 

 brown hackles, red-ibis, royal-coachman, qneen-of-the-waters, 

 professor and medium-sized flies in general. To these you might 

 add the jungle-cock, grizzly-king, great-dun. brown-hen, Canada, 

 Montreal, abbey, white-miller, cow-dung aud stone-fly. Use No. 

 8, 10 and 12 hooks on streams, No. 1 and. 6 on lakes and ponds. 

 Lake trout, as a rule, can be taken best with small minnows or 

 by trolling with the spinning minnow in deep water. Among the 

 numerous flies are the silver-doctor, scarlet-ibis, grav-drake, 

 black-June, royal-coachman, professor, Seth-Green. Montreal, 

 silver-king, Jock-Scott and Adirondack. For large fi=h you will 

 need hooks equal to No 6-0 to 10 0 O'Shaughnessy; for smaller 

 ones 4-0 to 5 0 will answer. 



J. H. S.. Mechanicsburg, Pa.— 1. Are the shad commonly called 

 "hickory" ODe-year-old shad, and the larger size or roe two years 

 old; or, are the "hickory" a distinct and separate variety? 2. Do 

 shad spawn once or more than once, and do they die after spawn- 

 ing? 3. Do they die in spawning streams or down in salt water? 

 Ans. 1. The hickory shad is a distinct species; it is smaller than 

 the shad and has a long lower jaw that projects far beyond the 

 snout when the mouth is closed. It is inferior in quality for food 

 also, hut takes the hook more readily than the true shad. 2. 

 Some shad die after spawning, but most of the spawning fish go 

 bacK to the sea and return when again ready to reproduce their 

 kind. 3. Shad die in the rivers after the spawning season is 

 closed, hut most of the fish descend safely to the sea, unless 

 stopped by the deadly fish traps. 



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