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FORES'! AND STREAM. 



[IVm 23, 1898. 



HAMILTON AND ROCHESTER DATES CLASH 



Hamilton, Canada, June 16— Editor Forest and Stream: I re- 

 gret to have to inform you that our proposed bench show will 

 not be held next September at the time of the regular Cauadian 

 Fall Circuit. 



This is a very great disappointment to us and our plans and 

 arrangement have all been upset at the eleventh hour by the 

 action of a sister organization from whom we expected help and 

 sympathy, instead of apparently determined and unnecessary 

 opposition. 



It is only fair to us that our position should he fully explained 

 an t I crave space in your valuable columns for this purpose, so 

 that our friends may see juat how the matter stands and judge 

 for themselves whether we are right or not. and whether or not 

 we have be°n generous ourselves in our efforts to arrive at an 

 amicable understanding. 



In the first place we announced publicly at the conclusion of our 

 bench show last year, that we would thereafter give an annual 

 show during the week immediately preceding the Toronto tixrure. 



In February of thin year we made claim officially with the C. K. 

 C for our dates, Sept. 6 to 9. 



In March (one month later) the Rochester Club claimed the 

 same dates as those already chosen by us. 



After much correspondence, which looked as if it was not likely 

 to bring matters to a head, although we explained our position 

 verv fully, and showed the Rochester Club t hat our show must be 

 held, if it was held at all, as a part of the Canadian Fall circuit, 

 we offered in good faith, and in the hope that our offer would be 

 considered a fair and generous one, to submit the matter at issue 

 bet ween us to arbitration, but to our surprise the Rochester Clut> 

 finally answered us declining to alter its dates, in spite of our 

 pr'ority of claim, and refusing flatly to agree to the proposed 

 arbitration. 



This was not the treatment we expected at the hands of a body 

 of brother sportsmen, but we feel that two large shows could not 

 be carried out successfully, so close to one another on the same 

 days, and therefore, rather than that both should be hurt, we 

 have decided very much against our will, to withdraw from the 

 field, although our Fall circuit will thereby be necessarily im- 

 paired and our own club injured in reputation. 



I inclose copy of the correspondence which has passed between 

 the two clubs in the matter above referred to, and ask yon as a 

 matter of fair play to us to publish it in full. A. D. Stewart 

 (Hon. Sec'y Hamilton Kennel Club.) 



Hamilton, Canada, May 7.— Harry Yates, Esq., Rochester, N. 

 V.; Dear Sir— I am instructed by my committee to ask you if the 

 Rochester Kennel Club intends to give a bench show this year, 

 and if so on what dates. Our club has c'aimed dates Sept. 6 to 9, 

 and we understand that your club has settled upon the same 

 dates. If this is the case I am instructed to ask your club if it 

 will kindly choose other dates so as to avoid a clash which would 

 certainly hurt both clubs. We cannot, unfortunately, alter our 

 dates, as we form part of the Canadian full circuit, and the dates 

 all round us are claimed by other clubs. I presume your club 

 can easily arrange dates to precede our show without hurt or in- 

 convenience to yourselves and shall be glad to hear of this from 

 you. I regret exceedingly that even an apparent clash should be 

 threatened, and can assure you we would gladly change our dates 

 if it were possible to do so to prevent it. We claimed our dates 

 last October in due form with the C. K. C. and we leave it to you 

 as brother sportsmen to trv and so arrange matters as to make 

 the best of the muddle for all concerned. Wishing you much 

 prosperity, and assuring you of our sympathy. Yours truly, A. D. 

 Stewart, Hon. Sec'y H. K. C. 



Rochester, May 12.— A. D. Stewart, Esq., Hon. Sec'y. Hamil- 

 ton: Dear Sir— I haye delayed answering your letter in regard to 

 changing the date of the Rochester Kennel Club fall show, for 

 the reason that our club has a meeting to-morrow, the 14th, and I 

 cannot say what will be the action of the club until after that 

 meeting. Personally, I wilt he very glad to have the show 

 changed, as I understand the position you are in, but I cannot 

 offer much encouragment from the rest of the club, as I do not 

 think they will be willing to change: however, we will let you 

 know the first of next week. Yours very truly, Harry Yates, 

 Sec'y- 



Rochester, May 20.— A. D. Stewart, Esq. Hamilton, Canada: 

 Dear Sir— In reply to your favor rf the 7th inst.. addressed to 

 Harry Yates, in which you refer to the clash in dates, I am in- 

 structed by the Rochester Kennel Club to communicate with you 

 with the idea of arranging matters satisfactorily to both clubs. 

 Owing to our warmer climate we are unable to make dat es any 

 earlier, even a week, and we suggest that as it is so early, it is 

 quite possible you can yet arrange to follow the Toronto fixture 

 instead of preceding it, hy requesting London. Montreal and Ot- 

 tawa to move their dates ahead one week, thus allowing us to 

 come in line and complete a large fall circuit. This would seem 

 the best solution of the problem, because we can draw dogs which 

 you may not, and those would go direct from here to Toi onto, 

 from whence it ought to be an easy matter to get them to Hamil- 

 ton; whereas, if you show before Toronto it is even money at least 

 that you would not get these dogs, while if we were showing at 

 the same time (just prior to Toronto) we would get these dogs on 

 their way to Toronto, as the dog men in the States would surely 

 give us the preference over Hamilton. 



This is a much more lengthy document than I had intended 

 writing, and as you will note by difference in color of ink. my pen 

 has run out ere this. The best of feeling prevails here toward our 

 Canadia cousins, and we rely on their well-known reputation of 

 sportsmanship and unselfishness to act on our suggestion and not 

 only save the two clubs further trouble, but all dogmen and tbe 

 fraternity at large. Hoping to *ear from you soon, I am, yours 

 etc., O. Stewart Bamber, Sec'y Rochester Kennel Club. 



Hamilton, May 27, 1892.— O. Stewart Bamber. Sec'y Rochester 

 Kennel Club: Dear Sir— Your letter of May 20 has been duly 

 received and was read to my committee last night. In reply to 

 it, I am now instructed to say that it is absolutely impossible for 

 us to change our show dates for the reason before given to you 

 that all the dates before and after us are already claimed by 

 other clubs. Your suggestion that we should endeavor to get the 

 other Canadian clubs to change their dates is also one which is 

 unfor unately out of the question, for the reason that all these 

 shows are held in connection with the fall industrial and agricul- 

 tural exhibitions, and these last named institutions could not 

 now change their dates except at a very large loss. Our climate 

 here is almost identical with that eDjoyed by our friends at 

 Rochester and we do not think, from past experience, that any 

 harm would come to dogs exhibited with you if your show was 

 held a week earlier than you now propose. I am requested to 

 remind you that we gave public notice at the close of our show 

 last year to the effect that we should precede Toronto again 

 this year and we officially claimed our dates with the C. K. C. in 

 February, whereas your claim with the A. K. C. was not made 

 until March. Under all these circumstances we think and feel 

 that the priority rests with us and that your club should in no 

 way disturb us. We will do all we can to help your show along 

 later on, but we think that you will not be using us fairly if you 

 persist in your present claim. While we feel this strongly, be 

 assured that we have no ill-feeling in the matter and wish to be 

 on the very best terms with your club; but this question is one of 

 pure business and must be settled soon either one way or the 

 other. It is nearly time that our judges were chosen and our pre- 

 mium lists prepared, and under the circumstances I shall be glad 

 if you will call an early meeting of your committee to consider 

 this matter afresh. Failing in our efforts to dissuade you from 

 taking our dates, lam instructed to say that our club is quite 

 willing to «ubmit tbe matter between us to arbitration. Your 

 club can name an arbitrator and we will choose one too, and the 

 gentlemen thus selected will choose a third and decide between us. 

 If their decision is given in our favor we will adhere to our dates 

 and your club can get up its show a week earlier than you now 

 propose. If tbe decision is against us we will drop gracefully out 

 of tue circuit for this year, as there are no other dates on which 

 our show can be held, and we will then, being free, do all we can 

 to help you on. But a clash of dates would onlv hurt both clubs 

 and is not to be thought of. I may say to you further, to show 

 that we are making our offer in good faith, that if yonr club con- 

 sents to the arbitration we propose we will choose not only an 

 American representative but a gentleman from your own State. 

 Hoping to hear from you at once, and with renewed good wishes, 

 yours faithfully, A. D. Stewart, Hon. Sec'y H. K. C. 



Hamilton, Canada, June 3.— Dr. C. S. Bamber: Dear Sir— I 

 wrote you on May 27 on the matter of the show dates claimed by 

 our respective cluos. Our committee, which meets weekly, was 

 in session last night, but not having heard from you we were un- 

 able to decide upon any definite step. As I stated in my last let- 

 ter, time is go'ng on, and as it mav take some further time vet to 

 straighten out the unfortunate difficulty which has arisen be- 

 tween us.it is of the utmost importance that we should hear 

 from you quickly. 



Qur meeting stands adjourned until next Thursday night (9th 



inst.), and I write now to urge you to be good enough to call your 

 committee together (even though a special meeting should be re- 

 quired) to consider my la'e communicati'"'n. P]p,ps* let me know 

 the result at once so t hat I may notify my committee thereof. I 

 sincerely trust that our offer to submit the matter between us to 

 arbitration will be approved by your committee, if you find it 

 impossible to alter your dates as at present claimed. 



It is most unfortunate that this clash should have arisen, and I 

 think in future that the secretaries of the A. K. C. and the C. K. 

 C. should interchange dates claimfd by their various clubs so 

 that such difficulties could be avoided. As it ip, however, seeing 

 that both our clubs have claimed the same dates, and tha t a dead- 

 lock is about t'i set in to the hurt of both our shows, it seems to 

 us that an arbitration is in order, and that both parties should, 

 like true sportsmen, embrace the opportunity of thus amicably 

 settling the matter. As I told you in my last letter, if we are 

 adjudged to he in the wrong, or if the recommendation of the 

 ar uitrators goes against its, we will willingly drop out of the cir- 

 cuit for this year and help you in every way we can, and we ex- 

 pect, of course, just as liberal treatment from you. If you desire 

 to accept arbitration please send us the name of your representa- 

 tive and we will at once forward you the name of ours. Your 

 representative will not, I presume, be a member of your own 

 club, but some fair, impartial outsider— that is tbe sort of man, 

 at least, that we intend to choose. Before closing I beg to notify 

 you now officially, that tbe Hamilton Kennel Club claims for next 

 year (1893) the week immediately preceding the Toronto show as 

 the time for holding its annual bench show, and I have written 

 to the secretaries of the A. K. C. and the C. K. C. to make this 

 claim. Assuring you once again of our friendship and goodwill 

 and hoping to hear from you at an early date. Yours very truly. 

 A. D. Stewart, Hon. Sec. H. K. C. 



Rochester, June 2.— A. D. Stewart, Esq., Hon. Sec'y H. K. 

 C. Hamilton, Can. My Dear Sir: Yours of the 37th ult. duly 

 received and I regret, very much that owing to temporary 

 absence from town of some of our working members, I am still 

 unable to give you a definite answer re the dates for bench show, 

 but from those that I have seen I have gathered that we will 

 either arbitrate or give up our dates altogether. We certainly 

 donot wish to be the cause of Hamilton's dropping out of the "fall 

 circuit," and if if really comes to that it is my personal opinion 

 that Rochester will give up her fall show as she did her spring 

 snow, on account of a conflict in dates. Allow me to assure you 

 of my kindest regards. Yours, etc., O. Stewart Bamber, Sec'v 

 R. K. C. 



Hamilton, June 3.— Dr. O. S. Bamber, Sec'y Rochester Kennel 

 Club: Your letter of yesterday's date just received. Many thanks 

 for it. By no means think of giving up your show altogether; that 

 would be entirely too bad. We would have to give ours up, 

 because there are no other dates on which we could hold it, but 

 we hope that you may yet be able to change your dates without 

 giving up your show entirely. At anv rate do not throw up your 

 show without arranging for an arbitration, for it might turn out 

 that the award would go in your favor and not in ours. All we 

 want is a solution of the unfortunate difficulty one way or the 

 other, and you can depend, win or lose, upon our hearty help and 

 co-operation every time. If you decide on arbitration nlease let 

 me know name of your representative, and we will send you the 

 name of ours at once. If possible let me hear from you definitely 

 by Wednesday next, as our committee meets on Tuesday and will 

 want to know results and time presses. Yours truly, A. D. 

 Stewart, Hon. Sec'y H. K. C. 



Rochester, June 13.— A. D. Stewart, Esq., Hon. Sec'y H. K. O : 

 My Dear Sir— I am instructed to inform you that at a full meet- 

 ing of the Rochester Kennel Club, it was decided that it would be 

 utterly impossible for us to give up the dates Sept. 6 to 9 for our 

 bench show. We regret being obliged to arrive at this decision, 

 but under existing circumstances, over which we have no control, 

 it is useless to think of other datep. We sincerely hope that our 

 action will not engender hard feeling between the clubs, and ex- 

 tend our sympathy and best wishes. Yours, etc., O. Stewart 

 Bamber, Sec'y Rochester K. C. 



[Note— In the foregoing letter no mention was made of our pro- 

 posal to arbitrate, and Dr. Bamber was at once wired to ask if the 

 proposal bad been discussed. To this the following replv was sent- 

 Rochester, June 14.— Arbitration declined, useless to thin k of other 

 dates.— O. S. Bamber.] 



Hamilton, Canada, June 16.— Dr. O. S. Bamber, Secretary Ro- 

 chester Kennel Club: Dear Sir— I am instructed by the Execu- 

 tive Committee of the Hamilton Kennel Club to acknowledge 

 receipt of your letter of 13th inst., in which yon notify us officially 

 that your club positively refuses to alter its bench show dates. 

 I am instructed also to acknowledge receipt of your telegraph 

 message received on the 14th inst.. stating that your club declined 

 even to submit the matter at issue between us to arbitration. 



I am instructed by my Committee to remind you again that our 

 dates were claimed before yours and that we had in every sense 

 the right of priority. Our offer to submit the question to arbitra- 

 tion was made in a broad ppirit and it was expected your club 

 would be only too willing to accept it. To our great disappoint- 

 ment now. we learn that your club ignores our priority, refuses 

 to change its dates although assured that by adherirg to them 

 our show will be injured and the regular Canadian Fall circuit 

 broken in upon, and declines flatly to allow a board of impartial 

 gentlemen to decide between us. 



Forgive me if I say plainly that this is not the treatment which 

 we would have accorded to you, and that we feel mortified and 

 hurt at tbe action taken by your club. 



As I before stated to you in a previous letter we are of opinion 

 that it would be exceedingly unwise to hold two large shows on 

 the same date, and therefore, in consequence of your action, al- 

 though very much to our regret, and against our will, we have 

 decided to give up our show this year. I am, dear sir, yours 

 truly, A. D. Stewart, Hon. Sec. Hamilton Kennel Club. 



BORZOIS — PSOVOIS. 



Lieut. PoltobAtzry writes the following letter to the 

 English Stock-Keeper, and it may be of interest to Psovians 

 in this country: 



"Sir— The misadventures of Messrs. Hacke and Grimes 

 with tbeir Borzois expose their perfect ignorance of the sub- 

 ject. Who propagated the stupid idea that every Borzoi can 

 kill a wolf, because he is called (only in England, by the by) 

 wolfhound? In Russia, Borzois are generally run on hares 

 and foxes. Only very few breeders own Borzois that will 

 tackle a wolf. These Borzois are specially trained from 

 their youth, and it would be a great mistake to think that 

 everyone of them becomes a good wolf catcher. 



"And, finally, Borzois never hunt wolves in the manner 

 that Mr. Hacke required of his unfortunate Zloeem. Upon 

 an old wolf are always set two or three (svara) Borzois: they 

 must seize him by the neck (and never by the hind legs or 

 tail; that is an immense blunder, proving bad training). The 

 collared wolf is held till the arrival of the hunter, who must 

 kill him with his knife or with the end of his whip (a.rspnik), 

 that has a leaden bullet in it. 



"Tf the hunter does not come up instantly the wolf gener- 

 ally throws the Borzois off and resumes his progress. 



"The single battle of an old wolf and a Borzoi is a thing 

 unheard of in Russia. That is a task for a mastiff, but not 

 for a Borzoi, 



"Pittsburg Press writes: 'The Russian dogs that eat wild 

 wolves in Siberia lose their appetites in Colorado,' etc. 



"In Siberia we have no Borzoi (that is psovoi Borzoi); 

 there are only flat-coated Kirghiz Borzois (tctsi), who course 

 only hares and foxes, and never tame wolves. 



"If Mr. Hacke wanted a Russian dog to take a wolf single- 

 handed, he must go to south Russia and buy a Russian 

 ovcharka (sheepdog), a poweful creature that would possibly 

 suit him. I repeat, Borzois are generally used to hunt bares 

 and foxes: Borzois that hnut wolves (in the manner I de- 

 scribed) are very rare in Russia. Public coursing with 

 wolves in Russia is always very poorly attended. Only two 

 or three kennels of Borzois venture upon this competition. 

 Sometimes this wolf-coursing falls through faute de com- 

 battants, 



"Wolf-coursing does take place in Russia very often, but 

 no j at trials, but as a home training for young Borzois. The 

 wolf must be a young one or muzzled. 



Alexis W. Poltoratzky, 



Chronicler of Nature and Sport. 

 (Russian, Prtpoda I GKhota.)" 



DOG CHAT. 



The secret of the practical downfall of the California Ken- 

 nel Club is explained in the Breeder and Sportsman where 

 Mr. Schell publishes his reasons for resigning as president 

 of the California Kennel Club. He says: "I can no longer 

 afford to be connected with a club, the ruling majority of 

 which, though small, is led and controlled by'so objection- 

 able a person as A. B. Truman has proven himself to be. 

 The outrageous and high-handed manner in which he has 

 practically usurped and taken possession of the offices of 

 secretary and treasurer of the club, calls for the highest and 

 strongest condemnation possible, and presents an urgent 

 cause for actiou on the part of the members of the club. In 

 the face of protest after protest on my part he has unlaw- 

 fully, wilfully and in a manner utterly disregarding the 

 rights of the club, placed the moneys thereof to his separale 

 account and has paid out the funds for the prizes of the club 

 by his personal check, from moneys to which he had no 

 right or color of right whatsoever. I decline longer to be 

 even a silent witness to such unlawful, dangerous and ques- 

 tionable modes of procedure, and hereby demand of said A. 



B. Truman an accounting of all matters so unlawfully as- 

 sumed, and that the funds be placed under the control of 

 the club. Disregarding every principle of decency, he has 

 forcibly taken possession of the office of secretary of the 

 club, and in defiance of the will of that officer has taken 

 upon himself the duty of custodian of all matters pertain- 

 ing to that office, in consequence of which the records of 

 that office have become practically valueless as such." 



Fox-terriers seem to be a leading feature in the fancy ou 

 the Pacific slope. Mr. Deberham is importing two bitches 

 from England. One is Parbney Chip, by Partney Donovan 

 out of Satchel; Partney Donovan is by Pitcher. The other 

 bitch is Rose, by Tip out of Lill. This blood will materially 

 strengthen Mr. Deberham's kennel. 



The well-known bulldog Handsome Dan, owned by Mr. 

 A. B. Graves, of Yale College, will be the Yale mascot this 

 year in the place of champion Harper, in the coming boat 

 race between Yale and Harvard. "Andy " Graves rows No. 

 7 in the Yale boat, and though Dan will hardly have a place 

 in the crew he will occupy a prominent position on the 

 bank decked out in the Yale blue. 



Mrs. Foster, the leading Yorkshire terrier exhibitor in 

 England, had her entries for the Kennel Club show re- 

 turned, having sent them too late. She feels considerably 



Eut out over this, as this marks the first break as an ex- 

 ibitor at the Kennel Club shows for the long period of 

 thirty-six years, so says the British Fancier, though this 

 must be a misprint, as the first show ever held in England 

 was in the year 1859, at Newcastle. 



In the Chicago Tribune we read of a Newfoundland, it is 

 generally a Newfoundland because it's a black dog, running 

 amuck in the streets the other day and more or less damag- 

 ing fifty people. As he foamed at tbe mouth we presume he 

 was not mad; worried and angry would probably be a correct 

 diagnosis, especially as we read that he was chased by 200 

 men and boys armed with clubs, stones, etc. He was event- 

 ually pinned to the ground by a pitchfork and loaded with 

 lead by the gallant crowd surrounding him. If people would 

 only consider for a moment the feelings of such an animal, 

 who finds every man's band against him, there is a pos- 

 sibility that they would allow the dog a clear passage, when 

 probably it would run into some quiet corner and quickly 

 recover its equanimity, but there would be one "mad dog 

 scare" less to chronicle. The Mayor of Chicago, the same 

 day that the above happened, issued an order to muzzle all 

 dogs in that city from June 15 to Oct. 1; also license tags 

 must be procured, and whether a dog is muzzled or not, if 

 found at large on the streets it is liable to be impounded or 

 killed. 



A correspondent to the London Field writes: "Mr. Cam- 

 eron, Nairn, sent a collie by train to Inverness ou Wednes- 

 day evening, and thence by steamer Cavalier on Thursday 

 to "Port William. The dog returned to Nairn at 7 o'clock 

 on Saturday morning, so that the distance of about eighty 

 miles between Nairn and Fort William must have been 

 made during Friday and Saturday morning." 



An exchange says: "The Western Pennsylvania Society for 

 Prevention to Cruelty to Animals has decided to prosecute 

 Mr. Paul Hacke and Dr. J. B. Grimes for participating in 

 the recent wolf hunt, on the stock farm of the first named, 

 near Pittsburg." 



Owners of dogs, and especially those hivinglarge kennels, 

 should be doubly careful that the dogs are well supplied 

 with fresh drinking water and shady spots to lie in during 

 this hot weather. The kennel house is not always under- 

 drawn, and if not will, when the sun shines on it, be as hot 

 as an oven inside. If you have no trees in the kennel yard, 

 a few boards covering a low frame, as low as possible, ac- 

 cording to the height of the dogs, will answer every purpose 

 for shade. Exercise only in the early morning and evening 

 and feed sparingly of meat, unless well cooked, and corn 

 meal. Give plenty of vegetables, soups with stale bread 

 soaked in, etc. If you have no running water in the kennel 

 troughs, replace tbe water frequently, especially with big 

 dogs, as in hot weather the water becomes quickly fouled 

 by saliva. Dogs can be refined as well as human beings. 



The dog owners of Toronto, Can., do not altogether relish 

 the idea of being compelled to register their dogs with the 



C. K. C. as well as pay a tax to the municipal authorities. 

 There are many men who keep "just a dog" and do not care 

 a rap for stud books, who should not be asked to contribute 

 unnecessarily. These men are often more wrapped up in 

 their dogs than the man who keeps a kennel of blue-bloods 

 for his "fancy." 



The English Kennel Club show has become a matter of 

 history, having taken place June 8 and three following days. 

 The total number of entries was 1,715, which is very 

 nearly a banner ontry. The list was made up of: Blood- 

 hounds 23, mastiffs 27, St. Bernards 123, Newfound- 

 lands 57, great Danes 38, Irish wolfhounds 7, deer- 

 hounds 30, Borzois 25, foreign dogs 20, greyhounds 16, 

 pointers 60, setters 106, retrievers 87, spaniels 84, sheepdogs 

 107, beagles 33, Basset hounds 37, Dalmatians 19, poodles 24, 

 bulldogs 42, bull-terriers 28, whippets 10, Airedales 26, fox- 

 terriers 224, Welsh terriers 51, dachshunds 58, Bedlington 

 terriers 16, Irish terriers 95, black and tan terriers 12, white 

 English terriers 23, Scottish terriers 42, Dandie Dinmonts 49, 

 Pomeranians 11, schipperkes 11, pugs 38, toy spaniels 39, 

 Maltese 4, Italian greyhounds 8, toy terriers 5. Some of the 

 well-known breeds that one would expect to be well repre- 

 sented there had to be abandoned owing to lack of entries; 

 notably is this the case with Skye terriers, which breed was 

 not represented at all at the show, and the "shipwrecks," 

 anrjUce Schipperkes, could only boast eleven, not much bet- 

 ter than we can do over bpre. Tbe exhibition must be 

 counted as a success and quite equal to former years in 

 point of dogs actually benched, there being 1,338. * We are 

 told that though the arrangements were good in themain the 

 arrangement of the catalogue was not up to date, The sports 

 ing classes were better represented than in former years, the 

 presence of Mr. Hey wood Lonsdale's dogs Ightfield Deuce 

 and Ightfield Dick, both noted field dogs, adding interest to 

 tbe display, Mr, Brailsf crd was there and again expressed 



