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FOREST AND STREAM. 



[Jttlt 30, 1891' 



DOG CHAT. 



SATURDAY is a sort of an off day with us, Ibut if we are 

 going to miss our friends in this way we sliall have to 

 stick to file. desk. Messrs. S. L. Boggs and J oe Lewis called 

 at this office on their arrival in New York, and if only to 

 g'et a few uibs of news we should liked to have welcomed 

 them home again. Mr. Boggs, however, left us full partic- 

 ulars of the purchases he made, and which have now once 

 more made his kennel a strong OJie, and one that from all 

 accounts will hold its own in the field this fall. We will 

 give his letter in full: 



"Mr. Joe Lewis and myself arrived in JSTew York, Satur- 

 day, July 25, on the S.S. Normaunia, from Southampton, 

 after a pleasant voyage and a short stay in England. We 

 brought a few dogs with us, among thera five English set- 

 ters, four of which are from Mr. R. W. Purcell Llewellin's 

 kennel, viz.: Viscount.- bv Moss— Nora III.: Moss is by 

 Count Wind'em (E. 8,169)— Novel (E. 7,219): Nora III. is by 

 Dashing Boudhn (E. 10.186)— Nora IT., she is by Count 

 Wind'em— Nora I. (E. 7,172). Color, black, white and tan, 

 head evenly marked, with black ears and tan shadings, 

 white blaze up the center of forehead, and a few tan ticks 

 on muzzle and legs, black spot on loin and at root of tail, 

 and a few ticks oh body. Date of birth, Sept. 15, 188f). He 

 is a large, racy, upstanding dog, with good head, neck, 

 legs, shoulders and feet, with a supei'b body built on the 

 right lines to go and stand plenty of work in the field, with 

 a fast, merry, slashing gait. He" was worked all last season 

 on the moors in Scotland, and Mr. Llewelliu considers him 

 one of the best young dogs that he ever bred; he was the 

 dog of all dogs that I saw while in England that pleased me 

 most, so brought him home for a stock dog. I think he is 

 just what is wanted in America to breed from, now that 

 Count Noble is dead. Victress, litter sister to Viscount, is 

 a large, racy, upstanding bitch, with plenty of quality, bone 

 and substance, and is well formed. In color .she is black and 

 white, black ears, white blaze up forehead, body ticked. 

 Nora III., dam of Viscount and Victress, by ' Dashing 

 Bondhu {E. 10,136)— Nora n., she is by Count Wind'em (E. 

 8,169)- Nora L (7,172). Color, lemon and white, evenly 

 marked. Whelped June 2. 1887. She is in whelp to Moss, 

 by Count Wind'em (E. 8,169)— Novel (E. 7,219). Moll Llew- 

 elliu, sister to Nora III., is quite a nice, large, handy bitch, 

 showing miich quality, bone and substance. Color, lemon 

 and white, evenly marked. She is in whelp to Mr. Llew- 

 ellin's Jet, a large, handsome, black and white dog, showing 

 much quality, and a rare good one afield; he is by Moss- 

 Blossom. This bitch is by Duke— Placid, Duke is by Dash 

 II.— Rifle, by Dan— Ruby; Placid is by Duke— Phantom. 

 These four dogs are all thoroughly bro'ken, are grand field 

 dogs, and were purchased from Mr. Llewelliu only after 

 much trouble; for he was loath to part with them, as he has 

 about given up breeding and now only breeds on an average 

 one bitch a year, consequently his kennel has decreased in 

 numbers and is now very small, containing chiefly old dogs 

 with very few young one's. It is very difficult to obtain any 

 of his blood, so I consider myself very fortunate in obtain- 

 ing what I did, and trust that these dogs may do some good 

 for the breed here. Another English setter in the lot is 

 Nia, purchased from Mr. Joseph Taylor. Sbe is quite a 

 handsome black, white and tan bitch of the right sort, by 

 Blue Peter II.— Dora, whelped Feb. 8, 1886. Her winnings 

 are: Firsts, Mardle, Morsley, Gi'eat Harwood, Clitheroe, Tod- 

 morden, and special Oldham, Stackstead, and second, Has- 

 lingden in 1S90, and in 1S91 flr.st Darwin, second London, 

 (Crufts), first and cup Poulton-le-Fyde, second Thorne, first 

 Bristol, third Boston, first Winterfon, third Bradford, sec- 

 ond Belper, and third Wakefield. 



"I must apologize right here for having an Irish setter in 

 the lot; but when 1 saw the Rev. Robt. O'Callaghan's ken- 

 nel I just thought I would like to try one of his dogs and 

 see how I got on with him. So, after looking them all over 

 carefullv. I selected Finglas (E. 28,9.50), by champion Fingal 

 IIL (E. 24,600) -champion Aveline (E. 18,469), a noted field 

 trial winner also; color dark red; whelped April 13, 1890. 

 He is a very handsome, large, upstanding dog of the right 

 sort, with lots of quality, and one that will stand some beat- 

 ing. In speaking of him, the reverend gentleman stated 

 that he was the best dog that he ever sold to go to America. 

 He is a litter brother to Coleraine, winner of Puppv 

 Stakes at Newport. 1S91, and Kennel Club Derby, 

 and third, All-Aged Stake, IS'.H, when only twelve 

 mouths old. _ The Rev. O'Callagbau considers him equally 

 as good as his sistia- and had liiiii entered in the same stake, 

 but he could not start liim, owing to his having a severe 

 case of distemper; this dog will be heard from. All the 

 setters ^vill be run in the field trials and shown at the shows, 

 while the fox-terriers that I purchased from Mr. Edwin 

 Powell will also be shown. They are: Diver III., by 

 Dugdale Jack out of Sarree II., weight 161bs., markings 

 black and tan on head and white body. Whelped Oct. 24, 

 1871. Breeder, Mr. J. Edwards. He has won first and sec- 

 ond,West Bromwich, second, Abergavenny; second, Shrews- 

 bury, 188.5; first, Liverpool, second, Hanley, flr.st, Royal 

 Aquarium, London, first and two cups. Sheffield, second, 

 Birmingham, first and cup, Wems, first, Rj^de, third, Stock- 

 ton, second, York, first, West Bromwich. fir.st, Newtown, 

 first, Shrewsbury, second Darlington, 1886; first, Ebbw* 

 Vale, fii-st, Halif.ax, first, Newport, flrat, Market Drayton, 

 fir.st, Bangor, and sijecial, Shrewsbury, 1SS7; third Ponty- 

 pridd; first, Oswestry, second, Shrewsbury, 1888; third, 

 Bridgnorth, first, Welshpool, third, Garnock Chase, first, 

 Shrewsbury, 1.889; first, Newtown, and first, Newport, 1890. 

 Diver III. is the sire of Rowton Ransom, winner of three 

 first prizes, and many other winners, Rowton Safety, by 

 Stipendiary out of Hatfield Pansy. Whelped Oct. 27, 1890. 

 Color, black head and white body. Breeder, Mr, Rowland 

 Grreen. Winnings: First in uoviee and second in puppy 

 at Darwen, 1891. Rowton Flirt, color white with black and 

 tan markings, whelped, August, 1890, by Rowton Darkie 

 out of Desiree. These dogs, with champion Paul Gladstone 

 and the balance of the Mount Washington Kennels' dogs, 

 will, I think, give me quite a strong kennel." 



S. L. BOGGS. 



In writing of the Peterborough hound show held recently 

 in England, "Peto," in Canine World, who is a great lover 

 of hounds and hunting, makes mention of two hounds. 

 He savs: "I cannot help but mention here two hounds, one 

 exhibited by Tom Whitmore— the Oakley Dancer, and the 

 other Hermit, from the Warwickshire. One can hardly tire 

 looking at either of these hounds. When I saw Hermit I 

 thought I saw absolute perfection. He has legs and feet 

 (unless you have good legs and feet you may thi'ow aside 

 every other property; they form the very basis of a hound, 

 and must come first in the opinion of breeders) as if made to 

 order, and upon them a body deep in girth, of beautiful out- 

 line, powerful, yet graceful. He is a good one to follow, and 

 his neck and shoulders it would be a positive sin to ever for- 

 get, for one may never have an opportunity of gazing upon 

 such perfection again. Not less admirable is the charming 

 expression of this hound. I think he has got the most hon- 

 est, most intelligent, most dare-devil look I ever saw in any 

 other animal of any description. How came Oakley Dancer 

 to beat him, then? I am loath to pick a fault in Hermit, 

 but he has one. So attractive is the hound, and he^takes 

 hold of you so suddenly, that you fail to discern even so 

 much as a susijieion of a fault in him. It was some time 

 before I could believe him to be wanting in that very im- 

 portant place — just where the ribs end: between, there and 

 his hips Hermit is slack, not much, but it is just sufficient 

 to make a fault; but for that one point the stylish and ele- 

 gant hound Dancer could not have beaten him. Dancer has 

 ^ splejididly-baiit pa.Taief a%d tba,t he 4i4 ]t|eat Hermit 



says more for him than any words of mine can, 

 though even in Dancer we must needs have a fault, 

 and his is in the neck; it is barelj;; long enough." 

 It is rather curious that after reading this and making a 

 note of it for future reference we should receive a letter 

 from Mr. H. C. Lowe, the noted greyhound breeder of Law- 

 rence, Kan., in which he says: "You know how strongly I 

 advocate a greyhound being well ribbed up, and how very 

 much you adniired my greyhounds at the Chicago bench 

 show for having this good ijoint in such a marked degree, 

 and as there have been some letters of late in your paper as 

 to how a greyhound .shotild be built I want you to carefl^lly 

 read the Peterboi-ough hound show report. You sviM notice 

 the hound Hermit was couaidered to be almost faultless and 

 a perfect specimen of a huuud, yet he failed ia one import- 

 ant particular and was beaten, he was not ribbed up so per- 

 fectly as he might be, and consequently was just a trifle 

 slack in loin. Now there is no dog living that has been 

 brought to .such perfection as the English foxhound. The 

 greatest wealth and experience has been bestowed on them 

 to increa.se their .speed and staying powers. They simply fly 

 now with a good scent, as a man soon finds out upless he is 

 very well mounted and a good rider. The finest judges 

 judged the hounds at Peterborough, and you see what they 

 thought of a hound not being well ribbed up. This in their 

 eyes was the most important point, for this hound was 

 faultless in every other particular. Yet he was beaten be- 

 cause he was not well ribbed up, and he was not so bad as 

 some of the greyhounds one sees at some of the bench shows 

 in this country who show their long slack loin a mile off, 

 for it took the judges at Peterborough some time it appears 

 to find out that Hermit was not well ribbed up. This is a 

 rare pointer for those like myself who so .strongly advocate 

 and breed the greyhound well ribbed up, with a strong loin, 

 for we have the greatest authority on this subiect at our 

 back.— H. C. Lowe." 



Mr. Eberhart, who takes as his motto both in cigars and 

 dogs, "A square deal," has changed his kennel office to 3 

 East Fourth street, Cincinnati, O. He has just made a 

 notable sale, having sold Lady Thurman to Mi\ L. J. Buell, 

 Neenah, Wis., who is now going into the breed. Mr. Eber- 

 hart has beeu having a, busy time fighting the dog catchers 

 (dog thieves) through the papers in Cincinnati, and has suc- 

 ceeded in getting .several arrests for cruelty to animals, with 

 fines as high as .IfDO and costs. At the bottom of his letter, 

 written on his business paper, we note a characteristic 

 notice printed in one corner: "Remember, silk is never sold 

 for the price of calico." 



We learn that the wonderfully-coated collie Maney Tre- 

 foil has been sold by the Chestnut Hill Kennels to Mrs. 

 Rand, Denver, Col. Thus another of the noted collies that 

 has brought Mr. Harrison's name so well to the front in this 

 breed, has been dispersed. 



Mr. J. O. Smith, of Wheeling, W. Va., has on the way 

 froju England a setter that he expects great things of in the 

 field. Mr. Smith is enthusiastic on his purchase, but un- 

 fortunately omits to mention the dog's name. 



A clipping from the New Haven, Conn., Reiiistir, informs 

 us that Mr. C. C. Chambers, of Waterbury, Conn., received 

 from Switzerland, July IS, what he claims to be the lareest 

 St, Bernard dog in the United States. The measurements 

 as given are, however, a little mixed, we should imagine. 

 According to the jRcgis-fcr "the animal measures 8ft. from 

 the tip of his nose to the tip of his tail and 19in. around his 

 head. He weighed 2351b.s. when shipped and lo.st 301bs. on 

 the voyage, which lasted 14 days. The dog is own son to the 

 St. Bernai'd which was the pet of the late J. K. Emmett. 

 His kennel name was Victor, but in the pedigree book he is 

 called Lord Malcolm. He is about a year old." 



It is always a pleasure to receive a letter from Capt. Mc- 

 Murdo, the well-known manager of the Charlottesville 

 Kennels. There is usually something of general interest in 

 them and for that reason we do not think lie will be offended 

 if we make an extract from his last. Speaking of Mr. 

 Dexter's increasing interest in the kennel, he says: "As 

 regards field qualities, he undoubtedly has more good point- 

 ers than any man in this or perhaps ruj other country. He 

 has a bitch called Kentish Lass that is as near being a jier- 

 fecc .specimen of the type of pointer we are trying to breed 

 as we shall probably ever get. Sbe is off in color, being a 

 sort of iron gray, but for size, form and coat she is perfec- 

 tion. She also "lias a nice head and beautiful stern, and her 

 action and style are just what one would expect her to have. 

 She is by Kent ex Hops, and is to run in the Derbys at High 

 Point and Lexington. We have several others more or less 

 like her, so I suppose it is only a matter of time — the estab- 

 lishment of the style we want — and let me impress upon 

 your mind that we won't sacrifice working qualities even 

 for the sake of carrying out our plans in this respect. Every 

 dog Mr. Dexter keeps has got to have speed, endurance, good 

 action, courage, the right sort of style of hunting, and every- 

 thing else that a first-class field dog requires. I would not 

 say so much, only I feel certain now that we shall suc- 

 ceed in our plans. Mainspring was the first pointer of right 

 type that I ever saAV run at the trials, and only a very few 

 men seemed to appreciate him, because he was very unlike 

 the bench show winners, I suppose," 



Mr. Huber, of San Francisco, writes that his new piir- 

 chase, Sally Brass TL, which he bought from Mr. Heath, 

 whelped July 18 six dogs, by Beppo III., and remarks that 

 they are fine-looking pups. With stock of this sort on the 

 Slope we shall soon hear of Californian dogs coming Bast to 

 compete both in the field and in the ring. 



Mr. H. C. Corbett writes us that the premium list for the 

 Kingston show is now in the yjrinter's hands and will be out 

 in a few days. He is very well pleased with the intere.st 

 that is being taken in the show judging by the numerous 

 inquiries he has received. He is also busy getting a good 

 list of specials. 



Those who have met Mr. Babbitts, of Spratts Co., at the 

 dog shows know that he is a merry soul and fond of a joke, 

 but we were rather .startled, we must confess, to see in an 

 Omaha paper that he had arrived in that city without a cent. 

 The la,st time he was in Omaha he had with him a roll of 

 .$500 in crisp, new bills. The morning after he arrived he saw 

 a pair of shoes that struck his fancy, and tendering one of the 

 bills of large denomination in payment, the storekeeper was 

 so frightened at the unfamiliar sight that he refused to take 

 it and sent word to the police, who in their wisdom hauled 

 him off in the patrol wagon to the police station as a coun- 

 terfeiter. It took Mr. Babbitts some hours to establish his 

 innocence, and he has since then steered clear of a city that 

 evidently "wants but little here below, but wants that little 

 good." Still, if Mr. Babbitts is without a cent, we respect- 

 fully call the attention of Spratts Co. to the fact, or their 

 representative may get into further trouble. 



Stock-Keeper, England, says: "'Mr. Fellows having been 

 taken to task in the American press for giving a prize to a 

 greyhound with prick ears, replied that it 'did .not have 

 prick ears when in the ring.' To this Mr. Chas. Mason, in 

 the course of a reply, says a 'prick-eared dog is a prick-eared 

 dog in the riug or out.' Collie judges in this country could 

 tell Mr. Mason of some curious instances which flatly con- 

 tradict his dictum. We know of one case of a dog that 

 carried its eara ^ nierveUlc in the ring, bat when tbe judge 



went down the benches to make his notes after the judging 

 he nearly fainted to see the card over a dog that looked him 

 in the face, consciously unabashed, while it hoisted one ear 

 up as rigidly perpendicular as a schipperke's, and modestly 

 folded over the other like a good setter's. Our collie readers 

 (if they wanted to) could give Mr. Mason the names of 

 several dogs not unknown to fame whose ears haA'^e the 

 regulation semi-erect carriage in the ring where their enter- 

 taining owners point out various objects on the ground for 

 their amusement and attention, but when they get back on 

 the bench carry their ears quite erect." 



Mr. Edwin H. Morris has given up his farm at West 

 Farms, New York, and is now located in Red Bank, N. J., 

 where he is going into pigeons and intends devoting consid- 

 erable attention to these aerial messengers. His greyhound 

 bitch Lady Clare has been bred to Gem of the Season and 

 his Gordon, Talmont, to Zango. 



The Chestnut Hills' English kennel of collies, of 

 which Christopher is the bright particular star, have been 

 shipped by the American Express Co. in company with six 

 more harriers for the Pennbrook pack. The collies number 

 twenty-one in all. The St. Bernard bitch Lady Blanca 

 was shipped at the same time to Mr. James Watson, of 

 Philadelphia, she having been purchased by him from Mr, 

 Shillcock. The bitch is in w^help to Salv.Htor Rosa. 



Dog shows seem to pay in Ireland notwithstanding her 

 troubles. At the Cork dog show $3,075 were taken in during 

 the two days. The proverbial Irish honesty was shown in 

 the fact that though there was no deposit required on the 

 dogs to take them out at night they all turned up in the 

 morning. 



It is not often we hear of bulldogs doing anything par- 

 ticularly heroic nowadays, but it seems Mr. Corbett's 

 Roguish is an exception. Fanciers^ Gazette tells us she 

 has earned a great local reputation for saving a child from 

 drowning in the river Lea. This bitch is a sister to the well 

 known The Graven Image. 



Dr. O. Stewart Bamber sends us a few items from Roch- 

 ester, and we wish others of our friends would bestir them- 

 selves now and then and drop us a line when they hear of 

 anything interesting to the kennel commv\nity. The Doctor 

 writes: "''Mr. Whitney, owner of the Flour City Kennels, 

 has purchased a pony, and, I understand, is having a wagon 

 rigged up, and the combination will be used to exercise the 

 dogs. The plan is to have a pole with crosstrees extend from 

 the rear of wagon and lead several of the dogs at a time by 

 chaining them to the ends of the crosstrees. The idea is cer- 

 tainly novel, and promises to be effectual. Dog showmatters 

 here are about at a standstill, after interviewing several 

 parties I was no vriser than before, except as to the approxi- 

 mate terms offered the club by the fair association. Per- 

 haps you know that the dates tlie club expects to claiiu were 

 selected so the show could be held in connection with the 

 fair here. The fair association offer to furnish a tent and a 

 certain .sum of money for prizes if the club will hold the 

 show there, no extra admission to be cliarged. Now, jiist 

 how this will benefit the club flnanciaUy I am unable to'see, 

 as they would certainly have to solicit outside .subscriptions 

 to add to the fair bonus to pay the prizes. The matter may 

 come to a head this week, if so, will notify you. A young man 

 in this city was caught stealing a cocker spaniel belonging to 

 Mr. Frank Hughes, he was fined §50, or fifty days, and as he 

 did not have the former, took the latter. The foregoing is 

 one of the signs of the times, and we need more of them." 



Englishmen are ever on the lookout for something new, 

 and now that the stringent laws that prevented the exporta- 

 tion of dogs out of Morocco have been relaxed, their dogs, 

 which are said to be very fine, will soon cross the Mediterra- 

 nean, and a Taunton or some one will soon have one on the 

 bench. 



The St. Bernard Club show will be on this week at Bing- 

 ley Hall. Birmingham. All the cracks are to be present, 

 that is, those that American dollars have left to the English 

 kennels. The specials are very fine, and now that several 

 of the cracks are over here competition for them will be 

 more open^ 



Messrs, Dole and Com'stook, according to their plan 



.sketched out some time since in iroEE,ST anp StrkAm, came 

 back to London about the middle of this month, and they 

 are now most likely on the water with their faces toward 

 "little Rhodie." IStocli-Kcopcr has caught on to Fi-ank's 

 familiar wink, and how that eye will go when telling us all 

 about it when we meet. This paper's paragraph relating to 

 their experiences is too good to be lost, so we repeat it: 

 "They are full of their trip on the Continent, and Mr. Dole's 

 mobile features twist up into a smile on one side, while his 

 eye on the oflside clicks with the swiftness of a photographic 

 shutter, as he indicates the 'no end of a good time they 

 have had, yes sir!' Mr. Comstock plays Sphilix: he can see 

 and he can hear, but he does not affect talk; still if ever he 

 opens his lips, they may tell of other sights at Naples be- 

 sides Vesuvius, of more amusing pictures at Pompeii than 

 the 1800-year-old leaden jfipe which intere.sted his friend, of 

 prettier pictures in the streets of Rome than in the musty 

 galleries of— but 'nuft' said. Both gentlemen liven up, and 

 try to tell the tale together of how they went to the top of a 

 mountain to see some monks, not the Hospice, and bought 

 a bottle of fire-water to bring back as a travelers' gift to us. 

 The way they dodged the customs of the different lands 

 they have i^assed through would do credit to a .smuggler 

 hero in a yellow-cover romance." We can quite believe 

 this, for Friend Dole's dog show experiences and his en- 

 counters with the festive baggage master have taught him 

 a thing or two in this respect. In regard to the report that 

 the Gloucester show was badly managed Mr. Dole disagrees 

 with the American critic and says that no American show 

 could have done as well under the conditions. 



With all due re.spect to our Boston contemporary we 

 must remai'k that the only correspondence or discussion on 

 beagle training has been going on recently in the FoRK.ST 

 AND Stream. We do not for one instant wish to usurp any 

 paper's rights, but in this instance, whether Mr. Brooking 

 alluded by name to the Forest and Stream or not, he must 

 have had it in his mind as the words he used in his speech 

 fully tend to show. The exjiression of one man is not a cor- 

 respondence or discussion, and surely our contemporary will 

 admit that it Was "Quester's" questions in Forest AND 

 Stream that gave rise to the discussion which has been so 

 interesting. 



Last February, dog fanciers will remember that Allen 

 Trebilcock of Toronto, Can,, lost at the Westminster Ken- 

 nel Club's show at New York his beautiful little King 

 Charles Toronto Charlie, who was wont to win all hearts and 

 prizes at the Canadian beach shows, says the Eniinre. The 

 dog was valued at -S275. Although the Westminster Kennel 

 Club was released by the conditions of the show from mak^ 

 ing good any loss, it took great pains to recover the dog, 

 which had been stolen out of his kennel, Skilled detectives, 

 however, failed to find any trace of the missing spaniel. 

 Mr. Trebilcock was agreeaoly surprised July 35, when he 

 received a check for $75 from Mr. J as, Mortimer, superin- 

 tendent of the Westminster Kennel Club. It was a genei-- 

 OU8 act and one which makes up to a degree for the loss 

 ■vfJtiiqh Mr, TrebilQCick sustained. 



