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FOREST AND STREAM. 



[Auo. 13, 1891' 



GREYHOUNDS AND GREYHOUND JUDGES. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



I certainly must take exception to snrae of the remarks made 

 by Dr. Mills in your issue of July 23, regarding Mr. Hunt- 

 ington's decisions at the late New York show, and ask him 

 for proof of the statement that his opinion of the error made 

 by Mr. Huatingtoa in "donning the ermine" is "proved by 

 events." 



I will ask the doctor what judge ever entered the ring at 

 the W. K. C. show, for the first time, and came out with 

 more flying colors than did Mr. H. Perhaps, in the history 

 of American dogdom, never has a judge been placed in suf h 

 a delicate and trying position, and the great credit Mr. H. 

 did to himself is "worthy of being emulated. His best friends 

 met side by side in friendly rivalry, assured they would get 

 both an impartial and intelligent decision and— they .surely 

 did. I spent many hours at the W. K. C. show among the 

 greyhound men and failed to hear either any of his friends or 

 any judge of a greyhound take the slighte.st exception to the 

 aw'ard of special prize to ch. Balkis, over Gem of the Season, 

 and I will esteem it a great favor if Dr. Mills will mention 

 one friend of Mr. H, 's who is a grevhound judge, who dissents 

 from the decision. As to the decision being "a great blunder" 

 let me assure Dr. Mills he either does not know the require- 

 ments of a greyhound or if he does, is too biased to see through 

 other glasses than his own. That Gem of the Season is a 

 hard one to beat goes without saying. He, a dog brimful! of 

 quality, is a bit better in head than Balkis, and not so wide 

 iu front, but aside from that where stands Balkis? For legs 

 and feet he has no superior, he has a far better back than 

 Gem, while from the last rib to his hind feet he out-points 

 Gem a hundred fold. 



I havefor many years lived in Kansas where almost our only 

 enjoyment and pa.stime was coursing jack rabbits. 1 have 

 coursed them week in and week out, and my friends will 

 testify I never owned the worst greyhound in the State but 

 rather the other way. 1 have bred greyhounds by the score, 

 sold them, excbantred them and bought a good one when I 

 saw it, and if Dr, Mills knew the first principles of coursing 

 ' and the requirements of a greyhound he would know that 

 placing eh. Balkis (that grand old sire) over Gem of the 

 Season was not "a great blunder." 



He Avould also know that excepting the exceptions which 

 are very rare, a greyhound short between his couplings, 

 high on his bind legs, without his hocks being well letdown 

 and bis hind legs tucked under, his body can never be con- 

 sidered to be l.iuilt on correct greyhound lines. If he does 

 not believe this let him look over the dogs that run for the 

 Great Waterloo or come out to Kansas next October and see 

 the outline of those that win, 



Before setting himself up as a greyhound authority 

 against such a man as Mr. Huntington who has bred more 

 winners than probably the Doctor has dogs, T would advise 

 him to study a little more or not talk about "great blunders" 

 unless he wishes the criticism to revert to himself. 



Gem is a very taking and flashy dog, but with his short 

 back, tucked lip loin and high set up hock, he can no more 

 beat ch. Balkis than Elcho can beat Scavenger. Dr. Mills 

 must remember that the propelling power of a greyhound lies 

 back of the ribs, not in front of them, and a greyhound not 

 right there will be beaten by a dog that is. Let us hear from 

 some of the judges on this, as I think it a question of great 

 moment to the greyhound cause. Greyhound Osbors. 



New York City. 



MASTIFF JUDGING AT NEW YORK. 



Editor Forest and- Stream: 



It is unfortunate that this subject is kept to the fore. It 

 seemed thermiversal wish to di.smiss the many and grievous 

 mistakes made, as lightly as possible, stamping them with 

 disapproval and letting them be forgotten. Had this course 

 been accepted by all, f oreetfulness would have drawn its pall 

 over the untortiinate affair, but the absurd defenses of the 

 serious tuistakes made have fanned the flame again, and the 

 interests of mastiff judging for the future demand emphatic 

 condemnation oi these defenses far more than the original 

 mi.stajies do. 



As i said before, I did not see Beaufort at the time of 

 judging, but I did see him not more than half an hour after, 

 and lieing dazed at the awards, asked Mr. Winch ell to take 

 the doa: off the bench that I might see his condition at that 

 moment. There were Messrs. G. G, Stephenson, George 

 Glazier, Chas, E. Wallack and others present when Mr. 

 Winehell took the dog off', and all coincided in the opinion 

 that no dog ever showed more vigor and activity. I re- 

 member as well as though it were an hour since, how 

 nimbly he hopped up on his bench again, and the easy 

 power he disjjlayed in all his movements. 



The statements of anonytuous scribblers that Beaufort 

 showed the extremity of decreptitude, the wavering ghost 

 of mortality in the last gasp, are of no weight. The state- 

 ment that the writer will not put his name to is very ihuch 

 emptier than air; but the statement of the judge as to this 

 point is entitled to respect. Now, as the dog most positively 

 did not show any signs of weakness or weariness half an 

 hour before the judging or half an hour after, a search for 

 an explanation of the judge'G stfte uent is necessary. My 

 theory is this: I understanl that the judging was pro- 

 tracted, that the dogs were troited out and in, back and 

 forward for a long time. Beaixfort is a dog of marked men- 

 tal peculiarities, and while the best shower I ever saw (ex- 

 cept C. O. D.), having the faculty of setting hi uiself in the 

 best positions if left to himself, I fancy he got disgusted 

 with aimless trottings around, and "it makes me l;ired" 

 was the view he took. 



This is not an unusual trick of dogs; it is on record that 

 the oldtime champion, Miss Hales's Lion, had this trick; he 

 would show well for a while, and if kept too long at it 

 would lie down and go to sleep, disgusted with useless per- 

 formances. My DeBuch, a dog of tremendous power and 

 activity, was another; he vv as very lively ior a while, both 

 at Pittsburgh and New York shows, but he got disgusted 

 at the long judging at the former, and Mr. Watson just got 

 inside the line of his endurance at New York. 



Now, what is the duty of the judge in such cases? 

 Evidently to determine whether the dog's appearance is due 

 to physical weakness, or mere transitory environments. One 

 or two trots across the ring should satisfy the judge whether 

 he moves all right and there is no use in keeping up a pro- 

 cession. The judge must confine himself to the appearance 

 of the dog when before him, but it is his duty to determine 

 what share he had in effecting a change in the dog's appear- 

 ance. Again I nfust condemn as most mischievous the 

 dictum of the judge that earning large stud fees and win- 

 ning prizes are Incompatible. Such mischievous nonsense 

 as this was never before announced in connection with dog 

 shows, and the "per curiam" of the judsce that he would 

 frown down all such attempts, should relegate him to other 

 pursuits than dog judging. Is a stud dog disqualified from 

 winning show prizes ? Or must a show dog not be used in 

 the stud ■? W. W ade. 



Hdlton. Pa„ Aug. 3. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



In your issue of July 30 a very wild letter appears from the 

 wilder brains of an anonymous correspondent. If he saw 

 the dog in the ring, as I much doubt, he must have been as 

 disabled as he describes Beaufort. Of cotirse, in such a 

 state some one would "totter around the ring." Such 

 authority as Mr. Charles Mason, Mr. Wm. Wade, Mr. E. G, 

 Stephenson, Mr, and Mrs. Chas. Wallack and others agree j 

 1}hat Beaufort was never shown ia better shape. Mr, Wade ■ 



says of him there that "he was as active as a cat, without 

 showing a trace of weakness. I know that most positively, 

 having the best opportunities of seeing this." If there was 

 a word of truth in the assertions of the unknown, why wag 

 he the only one to discover it? It is one thing I admire 

 about the unknown, he sticks up for the side that is down; 

 but why not be a man about it, and not be ashamed to sign 

 what he asserts. Ninety-nine times in a hundred an 

 anonymous correspondent writes what he knows to be a 

 falsehood. The truth is, 1 think that he did not see the dog, 

 for if he did he could not have had the assurance to state 

 what he has, even when the judge says in his own defense 

 in his report, "That his awards of Beaufort have met with 

 almo,st universal disapproval." Is the unknown not in the 

 same condition that the Rev. Mr. Stiggins was when he was 

 brought to the temperance meeting di'unk, and he got up 

 and gravely "declared the whole meeting drunk." There is 

 one thing about the judge's defense in his report, that I 

 called his attention to, Beaufort's being exhausted in stud 

 service and his feebleness. I did say that he had been well 

 used in the stud, as I was proud of his appearance there, 

 as it showed what a grand one he was iu activity and con- 

 dition. 



Would it be natural to call the judge's attention to what 

 would throw him back or entirely out? All who are familiar 

 with Beaufort iu the ring know that he is the most perfect 

 trained dog there, that he always appears at his best; his 

 every position is one of grace, any boy could lead him in the 

 ring and show him to as good advantage as the most expert 

 handler, if they will lead him by the end of his chain and 

 let him have his own way. He has been educated for the 

 ring as no other dog I ever saw. Mastiffs have not advanced 

 as they should for the last two years or so. Is it not partly 

 on account of the uncertainty of the mastiff awards at the 

 principal shows, as some of the sporting papers assert ? 

 Whatever it has been, they can again be brought to the 

 front if the breeders will work together. I am glad that 

 Mr Whitney has given it a push in'the right direction with 

 his broad shoulders; let others do as much according to their 

 means, though their purse may not he so big. Let's bring 

 a class of mastiffs before the judge at New York that Amer- 

 ica will be proud of. Let each breeder bi'ing his best, though 

 he may not win first, he will have the satisfaction of know- 

 ing where he stands. The chances are tnat there will be a 

 judge there then, who is recognized as an atithority. It is 

 now quite certain that champion Beaufort will go back 

 soon unless purchased here. England knows the value of 

 such a stud dog as Beaufort. The dollars England has re- 

 ceived from America since he has been here have been few. 

 It pays her better to sell America his xmppies at high prices. 

 Figures would show that we have paid England more money 

 for Beaufort blood than that of all the other stud dogs com- 

 bined. J. L. WlNCHELL. 



A WOWIAN'S EXPERIENCES. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



I don't know whether, because I was not born a man, 1 

 should be debarred from contributing to your interesting 

 journal, but it was not my fault, I assure you, for if I had 

 been consttlted upon the specificatinu. I might to-day have 

 graced the Presidential chair instead of being the wife of one 

 of the most ardent admirers of dogs and guns, and onewhom 

 many consider a first-class shot, too. Modesty, of course, 

 forbids me giving my own opinion, but I do know he never 

 fails to bring home game when he goes after it. I am very 

 fond of intelligent canines myself, and the experience I have 

 had in caring for every animal that could be construed into 

 a hunting dog should. 1 think, entitle me to a little liberality 

 in the columns of FOKEST AKD STREAM. To be truthful, 

 when I married Mr. Jones I was not aware that he was such 

 a lover of dogs and guns, but that fact made no difference, 

 for I have had ample time in finding this out, and my first 

 lesson commenced soon after we were married. I proved 

 such an apt scholar that I went through all the grades and 

 graduated with a flourish. I was also mortally afraid of a 

 sbotgun, but I soon got over that, and, in fact, learntbow to 

 .shoot and load a gun myself. Only once when I tried to 

 scrape acquaintance with a rifle I came near being di.sgusted 

 with the performance, for I hit my mark so straight, and 

 the target being of oak, the bullet rebounded with such 

 force as to bum a streak on my forehead, and that settled 

 the rifle business for a little while. 



I have a better acquaintance with the canines than many 

 would .suppose, and though Mr. .Jones is complimented so 

 highly and praised so loudly about his management and 

 training of dogs, I know that I have about as much to do 

 with the training as he has; yet I am naturally relegated to 

 the backgi'ound and must perforce listen to his praises, and 

 do nothing but grin and bear it. The first dog I was intro- 

 duced to in the hunting line was a full-blooded Irish setter. 

 I was "bedoozled" into taking the little thief when he was 

 about five weeks old. Why he was called a setter puzzles 

 me to this day, for he did everything but set while at home, 

 and kept things going pretty lively, too, and all the time he 

 looked so fearfully innocent. The way he grew, too, was 

 amazing; I suppose it was the fresh air and the running so 

 many miles away from home did the business. Mr. J. would 

 leave home in the morning and tell me to take good care of 

 that dog. Now that was reversing the order of things to 

 what 1 was accustomed, for my father always had a dog to 

 take good care of me But I wished to obey orders, and the 

 first time I left home locked the dog in the kitchen. On my 

 return some hours later, 1 found the window— sash and all- 

 gone, so was the dog, and by the way things looked, I was 

 thankful there was any kitchen left. I thought I had better 

 go, too, and skirmish around a little; but had I known that 

 Irish setter a little better I might have saved my shoe 

 leather. Mr. Jones came home, and, of cour.^e, exj)lanations 

 being in order, I went to see a friend and lelt him to solve 

 the window and dog problem. He lost two days hunting for 

 that dog, not with him; finally finding him ten miles in the 

 country. Not much setting about that, but I thought in 

 future he should practice the art a little. This all occurred 

 in Wales, and for the purpose of my tale I must tell you 

 that the majority of bedsteads used by those able to get 

 them, were iron, with ix-on strips pleated to hold the mattress 

 or feather beds. To be doubly sure of having things com- 

 fortable, we had a mattress lir.st, then a feather bed on top. 



Next time 1 went from home 1 had an idea, and thought it 

 a brilliant one, too. I chained the dog to the bedstead so 

 firmly that if he went the bedstead must follow suit, and 

 complacently left home thinking of woman's wit. Vain ex- 

 ultation! I returned to find the house, as far as the out.side 

 went, looking as 1 left it. I opened the front door. All was 

 quiet. How glad I felt; and on good deeds intent meant to 

 give the dog an extra supper. I opened the bedroom door — 

 Goodnessl Was it a dog or a spotted leopard that greeted me? 

 Had some one turned my room into a feather-cleaning 

 establishment? Instead of setting he had been engaged in 

 bi ting, and so very .successfully that not a vestige of mattress 

 or bed was left, and the most feather-loving Indian would 

 have been frantic at the exhibition. For three nights we 

 slept in the cellar, and I had all the extra work I could at- 

 tend to without the extra supper. Of the many experiences 

 I had with that one dog alone I could fill a five-liundred-page 

 book. Once he laid bare the mysteries of one of my hair- 

 cloth chairs, one of a set that I was especially proud of. 

 Then he concluded to chew up all the articles of clothing he 

 could find hanging to dry, regardless of ownership. For 

 some time I replaced those garments, but so frequ.:utly were 

 his misdeeds brought home to me that, after exnausting my 

 finances and my credit, I decided to investigate, and found 

 that if that dog was ten uaik.? away iu the country the next 



door neighbor's dress would be chewed up by him. Poor 

 dog, and poor me, we were sadly imposed upon. 



By degrees I concluded to take the dog with me on iily 

 rambles, and one day we espied a hare I had heard Mi*, J. 

 say To Ho, and I said To Ho, too. The dog stopped with his 

 bushy tail straight out. The hare stopped, and I stopped, 

 too. For a time I thought we were all three paralyzed, and 

 if an artist had come suddenly upon us Just then what an 

 admirable subject for his canvas he would have had. How- 

 ever, I got tired standing like a mummy and pulled at the 

 do^'stail, he did not expect this and" turned on me, but 

 althotigh he was disgusted he did not bite me, as I thought 

 he would. He grew up a splendid animal and was sold tor 

 a high price when we left Wales, and soon after took first 

 premium at a dog showat the town of Carmarthen. He was 

 very fond of .sugar, and wotild risk a whipping to get some 

 auy time. Mem.: For a thievish, slick, catch-me-if-you-can 

 dog, I commend the black hound every time. 



Mrs. Henry B. Jostbs. 



PHILADELPHIA K. C. DERBY ENTRIES, 



THE entries for the Philadelphia Kennel Club's Derby of 

 1891 number 13 English setters, 6 pointers and 2 Irish 

 setters, 20 altogether. The stake is open to all setter or 

 pointer puppies whelped on or after January, 1890. 



ENGLISH SETTERS. 



Tort Stoker— (Fran ci=. R, Hitchcock), black, white and 

 tan dog (Rebel— Trinket II.), Sept 15. 



Philadelphia Press— (L, Shuster, Jr 1, black, white and 

 tan dog (Cincinnatus— Cornelia G.), Anril 21. 



Hazel the Blagkie— (L. Shuster, Jr.), black white and 

 tan bitch (Cincinnatus— Cornelia G.), April 21. 



TENiSrrsoN— (B. Ridgway), orange and white dog (King 

 Noble— Queen Vashti), March. 



Booth— tB. Ridgway), black white and tan dog (JJing 

 Noble— Queen Vashti), March, 



Katie Noble II.— (P, G. Taylor), black, white and tan 

 bitch (Breeze Glad.stone— Katie Noble), April 29. 



Nat's Boy (F. S. Brown & J. B. Ellison), black, white and 

 tan dog (Nat Goodwin— Hazel). 



Nat's Girl (F. S. Brown & J. B. Ellison), black, white and 

 tan bitch (Nat Goodwin— Hazel). 



SuxsET (F. S. Brown & J. B.' Ellison), black, white and 

 tan bitch (Nat Goodwin — Countess B.). 



Joe Lewis (J. O'H. Denny), black, white and tan dog 

 (Count Noble— Fanny), April. 



WiNJfiE Noble (J. O'H. Denny), black and white bitch 

 (Count Noble— Fanny), April. 



Sm Gladstoste (J 'O'H. Denny), black, white and tan dog 

 (Gladstone's Boy— Diamond), March 18. 



pointers. 



HoxiE Godwin (C. E. Connell), liver and white dog (Duke 

 of Hessen— Fan Fan). May 7. 



Dick Lee— J. H. Winslow), liver and white dog (Dick 

 Swiveller— Bloomo III.), May 6. 



Mack Naso— (Dr. J. A. Hartman), liver and white dog 

 (Nick of Naso— Li Hie Dalp), May 10. 



' May Dowking— (Dr. J A. Hartman), liver [and white 

 bitch (King of Kent— Cbloe). Oct. 23. 



Tory Sqtjire— (Francis R. Hitchcock), liver and white 

 dog (Duke of Hessen — Westminster lua), Sept. 6, 



toKY Barox— (P. R. Hitchcock), liver and whitp dog 

 (Dtike of Hessen — Westminster Ina), Sept, 6. 



IRISH setters. 



Adonis— (S. B. Richards), dog (Champion Tim— Currer 

 Bell 111). July 29. 



Bess— (B. M. Vaughn), bitch (Champion Tim— Currer Bell 

 III), July 29. 



All these with the exception of Mr. Connell's Hoxie God- 

 win were whelped in 1890, 



DOG CHAT. 



THE Rhode Island Poultry Association will hold a bench 

 show in December, during the week commencing on 

 the 16th. Mr. Michael Flynn, Jr., has the management of 

 the affair and wishes to make the show a success, so that the 

 managers of the A.ssoeiation may think fit to join the A. K. 

 C. If sufficient inducements in the way of prizes is offered 

 there is no rea.son why a nice little show should not be held. 

 Mr. Lacy has been asked to judge all classes. 



His many friends will be pained to learn that "Unole 

 Dick" is again pursued by misfortune, as Mrs. Fellows 

 broke her leg in a most singular and unexplaiuable way. 

 We are pleaised, however, tole irn that Mrs. Fellows is doing 

 well under the circumstances and promises a speedy recovery. 



One of our correspondents writes that some crank is poi- 

 soning the dogs in his neighborhood, chiefly valuable dogs. 

 If any of our readers have had a like experience and can 

 give any advice in the matter, we shall be glad if they will 

 communicate with us, either confidentially or for publica- 

 tion. 



We hear from Mr. John A. Logan that the bench show 

 that was to have been held at Youngstown, Ohio, Sept. 1 to 

 4, has been abandoned. As this show would have conflicted 

 with that held at Kingston, Ont., the arrangement is per- 

 haps a wise one. 



Mr. Paul TIacke's eight Barzois are now on their way from 

 Russia, and on their arrival will go to Spi-atts' Kernels for 

 a while to get rid of their sea legs and oe freshened up be- 

 fore proceeding to Pittsburg. This is without doubt one of 

 the most important importations of dogs that has occurred 

 for some time, and such a collection of Barzois as Mr. Hacke 

 will now be able to show will be sure to create a craze for 

 these dogs sooner or later. 



"Namquoit" has his hands full nowadays with his new 

 venture Forest, Field and Shore. He is owner, editor, and 

 pretty nearly everything else, and we must say he deserves 

 great credit both for his pluck and the very readable paper 

 he has brought out. It will now be issued semi-monthly 

 instead of monthly. 



Mr. Lamb tells us that Clydesdale Nell, his newly-imported 

 St. Bernard, whelped Aug. 3, 13 puppies, six dogs, by Lord 

 Bute, and he is delighted with them. All are pertectly 

 marked and healthy, and the bitch has plenty of milk. Mr. 

 A. H. Moore purchased through Mr. LH,rab the puppies Lady 

 Brooke and Lady Myra, by Scottish Prince ottt of Hepsey. 

 Lady Brooke weighed eTJ'^lbs at four months. He ends up 

 his letter with, "I sold tliree St. Bernards last week at good 

 prices through my little 'ad' in your paper." 



The Blue Grass Kennel Club, an association formed for 

 giving a show at the coming State fair, has decided to hold 

 a bench show Sept. 2,3, :.'4,"25 and 26, at Lexington, Ky. 

 Application has been mads for admission into the American 

 Kennel Club, which meets oi.pt. IT, and the show will 

 doubtless be given under ,\. K. C. rules. The services of the 

 well-known Mr. G!-eo H. Hill have been secured as superin- 

 tendent and a liberal premium list has been decided upon. 

 The secretary, Mr. lioi^er Williams, was until recently in 

 partnership with Dr. Van Hummel in the Rookwood and 

 Landseer Kennels and is a noted breeder of greyhounds. It 

 was his intention to give up his kennels, btil we are glad to 

 se^ he still talves sufficient interest in dogs to boom the u&vf 



