kuG. 18, 18920 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



14 8 



Forest and Stream's 



^1 Fishing Postals. 



'DROP US A LINE" ON A POSTAL CARD. 



Fishing News, Place to Catch Fish, Fish Caught, 

 Fishing Incidents. 



Went into country trouting. Place advertised: "Love- 

 ly trout streams right at door. Several, Milk, buttpr, 

 eggs. Team vpIU meet you.'' Wont. Friend, too. Re- 

 ception cordial; $1.25 to meet us. Own team. Very 

 cordial. But streams protected. Man or woman waiting 

 in every field. Shotguns. Bad language. Effective. 

 Other streams fished to death. Three and 4in. But ' wav 

 over yonder 15 miles fishing lovely. Whoppers. Glad 

 to take us. Guess not. Interest in us fading. Small 

 boy would dig worms. Guess not. Fading, still fading. 

 Faded away. Home; |U3a to depot. Lost interest. 



O O. S. 



Waterbury, Vt., Aug. 8.— Friend S. while trout fish 

 ing last season caught a fine trout which he slipped in his 

 pocket, intending to transfer it to his basket later. But 

 the trout had other plans and promptly flipped out, re- 

 gaining the stream, A few days since S. was fishing in 

 the same place and caught a good one, which he placed 

 in his pocket only to have the trout flip out as before, S. 

 figures it out that this was the sam« one he caueht be- 

 fore and thinks him fully 'educated." F. E. A. 

 ♦ 



The Columbia Fishing Club, Jr., of Washington, D. C, 

 arranged to leave the city on Sunday for a two weeks' 

 trip to the lower Potomac, The 7nembers who will make 

 the cruise are- W, G. Walde, Geo. F. Smith, Dr. E. Burke, 

 Rev. E. Atherton, J'^senh Barres, Ben Bryan, John Burns, 

 E. Gorman, John Harbin, G. F. Lewis, Frfd Lewis, E. 

 McDonald, S. Murphy, W. Murphy, J. L. Neurath and 

 James Walsh. 



♦ 



Mr. Edward M. Earle is managing director of a com- 

 pany formed for th« development of the fisheries of 

 Jamaica, Readers of Forest and Stream are aware that 

 Jamaica has a wonderful wealth of food and game fish 

 as well as other useful marine animals. Among the ob- 

 jects of the company are to catch, cure and sell fiah, to 

 supply the local markets and o'hers outside with fish, 

 moUusksand their products, to plant and cultivate oyster 

 beds, and to establish and protect turtle nurseries. Mr. 

 Earle has labored long and persistently to develop the 

 Jamaica fisheries and he certainly deserves a generous 

 reward and success. 



80,000 young fry of the shad, less than half an inch in length, 

 in charge of Seth Green. They were planted in the Sacra- 

 mento River, and were the first shad ever seen in Pacific 

 waters. To-day, I should say, judging from the urice, that 

 shad are more plentiful here than in the East. Within the 

 week tbe price has been one and a half to two cents a pound 

 wholesale for shad of au average weight of 51bs. I have 

 seen many shad here weighing 13lba., and one exceptionally 

 large nne weighing ISlbs. Now I think that is remarkable 

 when you consider that the average weight of our Connecti- 

 cut River shad in tbe East is 'tK'hs., and that the largest of 

 which there is any record is llibs." 



"Then, too, I would like to say a word about your striped 

 baas. Only nine years ago there was not a striped bass in 

 your waters. At "that time I was president of thf New York 

 Commission, and at the request of the United States Com- 

 missioners 1 procured 1,500 small fry about an inch in length. 

 They were sent out here and plautfd, I think, s-'omewbere 

 near the mouth of the Sacramento River. Now I find them 

 in your markets in such quantities that they are sold as low 

 as 15 cents a pound. They would probably bring a higher 

 price if your people were as well actiuainted with the merits 

 of the fish as we are in the East, where they readily brine; 

 from .30 to 40 cents a pound, when the supply is at all light." 



There is no question that the planting of fry is always 

 successful where the streams are suitable. The elements of 

 proper water and food are the main things to be considered. 

 If these do not exist the stocking will be a failure, whether 

 the stream be stocked with fry or yearling or adult fish. 



As to tbe cost. No person familiar with fish breeding and 

 rearing will contend it is not vastly cheaper to stock with 

 fry. A calculation of the cost of hatching and planting to 

 the Michigan Board of Fish Commissioners for the seasons 

 1888-9, 1890-91, shows that the expense per thousand per fry 

 for these two seasons respectively was 10 51-100 and 10 .50 100 

 cents per thousand. 



These were not exceptional years, and I have no reason to 

 believe that with some slight variation these figures cannot 

 be equalled by any other board engaged in breeding equally 

 large quantities. Certainly these figures are low and the 

 State can feel that the money devoted to its fisbcultural in- 

 terests is spent with reasonable regard for economy. 



The strong argument for the original instalment of 

 hatching stations by the States in the early inception of 

 these enterprises was the economy in maintenance and the 

 maximum of results. With the greatly reduced numbers 

 of fish which would have been the result of attempting to 

 stock the streams and waters of this country to tbe extent 

 to which they are now stocked, generations would have been 

 born and passed away before present results would have 

 been attained. 



To persons who can afford private preserves it is as a rule 

 of not much consequence what the original cost of stocking 

 preserves may be. It matters little to them whether the 

 fish needed cost ten cents a piece or ten cents a thousand. 

 Such persons are as a rule more interested in securing a 

 quick result from plants, and if they can secure a year ad- 

 vantage in time by planting yearlings they do not count 

 cost. But to the greater body of the people who look to 

 large results at a reasonably small outlay, the fry planting 

 appeals as being entirely satisfactory in results Imm every 

 point of view. Herschel WhitAker. 



Detroit, Mich., July U. 



REARING TROUT FOR DISTRIBUTION. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



It is to be presumed that a public journal of tbe character 

 of Forest and Stream is interested in giving to its readers 

 all tbe tight that can be thrown upon questions in which 

 they are interested, and that it will accord fair and impartial 

 treatment to the advocates of all questions which are of 

 public feoncern. 



The columns of your valuable paper have been open to the 

 advocates of yearling or fingerling planting of fish for a year 

 or so, and they have been given opportunity to publish their 

 ideas upon tne theories they hold. The paper itself has 

 rather seemed to lean toward the advocacy of this theory in 

 such expressions as it has given. It is fair to presume of 

 course that there is no pride of opinion in this matter, how- 

 ever, which would prevent you giving a full opportunity to 

 the other side to be heard. 



The question of fry vs. fingerling is a question in which 

 all intelligent and progressive flshculturists should be 

 interested, and the public should be given the benefit of such 

 experience as they may have, anri the question should be 

 met fairly and discussed with a view of determining in a 

 candid and f«ir manner what is best, because after all the 

 public are most concerned in the questions of economy and 

 results, and care nothing for fine-spun arguments and pet 

 theories. 



As the papers presented on this question before the meet- 

 ing of tbe American Fisheries Society, which met last May 

 in New York, were not printed in full, as were all the other 

 papers presented at the meeting, and as the general argu- 

 ment contained in my paper seems to me to have consider- 

 ahle weight in determining this question, will you kindly 

 permit me to briefly state my position upon this matter. 



The two points which have the most bearing upon this 

 question are: 



1. Has fry planting been a success or failure in the stock- 

 ing of public waters? 



3. Has it been expensive or economical)' 



As to the first point, it would seem that it has been suc- 

 cessful beyond controversy. This is attested by the success- 

 ful stocking of innumerable streams with the brook trout 

 (Salmo fontinalis) in the Eastern, Middle, Northern and 

 Northwestern States. Its entire success in the Lower Pen- 

 insula of Michigan and some portions of Wisconsin is be- 

 yond all cavil or chance of dispute. In 1841 the Lower 

 Peninsula- streams were barren of brook trout, and none 

 ever existed in them, with perhaps the hare exception of two 

 or three streams on its extreme northeastern shore, until 

 they were artificially introduced. The result of fry planting 

 in this peninsula h'ls been to stock hundreds of streams 

 which have for many years since such stocking furoished 

 most excellent fishing. This is also true of certain portions 

 of Wisconsin, while the thonsands of streams of the Eastern 

 and Middle States which have been thus stocked furnish in- 

 contestible proof of the success of fry planting. 



The Penobscot, the Hudson, the Delaware, and other 

 rivers of the Atlantic coast have demonstrated beyond all 

 question that tbe fry of the anadromous fi«hes like the sal- 

 mon and shad may be planted in them successfully and with 

 the certainty of a satisfactory result. This stocking of these 

 rivers has been even a more trying test of the success of fry 

 plau'Jng than the stocking of our inland streams. Not only 

 must this fry encounter the natural enemies they find iu 

 the stream, but the vastly greater number to be found in 

 the ocean itself, and yet the statistics which have been pub- 

 lished of the fishing on these rivers show that great results 

 have been secured." 



Hon. Eugene G. Blackford, who is now sojourning on the 

 Pacific Coast, in an interview in the San Francisco Chroni- 

 dte of May 24, furnishes one of the strongest arguments upon 

 fry planting. He says: "Fifteen years ago the LTnited States 

 ' Fish Commission procured frona New York and .sent here 



ROD AND GUN AND CAMERA. 



As a recogEitiou of the important place of amateur photography 

 in its relation to sports of tlie field and prairie and mountain and 

 forest and stream, the Forbsi and Stream offers a series of 

 prizes for meritorious work with the camera. The conditions 

 under wMcn these prizes will he given are in brief as here set 

 forth: 



There will be ten prizes, as follow=: First $35. Second $30 

 Third $15. Fourtb $10. Six of $5 each. 



The competition will be open to amateurs only. 



Tbe subjects must relate to Fobkht and Stbesam's Held— game 

 and fish (alive or dead;. s>iootiDg and fishing, the camp, campers 

 and camp life, bportsman travel by land or water. 



There is no restriction as to the time when the pictures may 

 have been or may be m'lde— whether in 1893 or in previous years. 



Pictures will be received up to Dec. 31, of tliis year. 



All work must be original; that is to say, it must not have been 

 submitted in any other competition, nor have been published. 



There are no restrictions as to make or style of camera, nor as 

 to size of plate. 



A competitor need not be a subscriber of Fokest And Stream. 



All photographs will be submitteed to a committee, shortly to 

 be announced. In making their awards the i'ldgf s will be in- 

 structed to take intT consideration the technical merits of the 

 work as a photograph, its artistic qualitiee; and other things 

 being equal, the unique and difficult nature of the subject. 

 Photographs must be marked only with initials or a pseudonym 

 for identification. With each photograph should He given name 

 of sender, title of view, locality, dute, and name of camera. 



The p'lotographs shall be the prope^rty ot the Forest and 

 Stream. This applies oalv to the particular prints sent us. 



From time to time we shall reproduce by the half-tone process 

 sapiples of the work submitted, and should the interest in 

 Forest and Stream's Amateur Photography Collec'ion prove 

 to be what is anticipated, we may ask for an expression of opinion 

 by a vote of all our readers after the manner of the successful 

 and famous "Camp-Fire Flickering Vote." Such popular vote 

 will be quite distinct from the award by the committee. 



FIXTURES, 



DOG SHOWS. 



Sept. 13 to 16.— Fourth Annual Dog Show of the Toronto In- 

 dustrial Exhibition Association, at Toronto, Canada. 0. A- 

 St.one, Sec' v. 



Sept. 19 to 33.— Third Annual Dog Show of the Kingston Kennel 

 Club, at KinestoTi, Canada H. C. Batee, Seo'y. 



Sept. 20 to 23,— WestPi-Ti Michigan Kennel CJuH, at Crrand Rapids 

 Mich. H. Dale Adams, Gale&hurg, Mjrh., Superinfe'^dent. 



Sept. 27 to 30.— Dog Show at Ottawa. Can. Alfred Geddes, Ser^'y. 



Oct. 25 to 28.— Omaha Kennel Club, at Omaha, Neb. E. L. 

 Marstou. Sec'v. 



Nov. 33 to 35,— Brooklyn. H. W. Huntington, Sec'y, 148 South 

 Eighth street. 



1893. 



Jan, 5.— GrloverHvillf, N. Y. F. B. Zimmer, Sec'v. 

 F* b. 31 to 33.— Westminster Kennel Club, New York city. Jas. 

 Mortimer, S^upt. 

 Jutie 13 to 17.— World's Fair, Chicago. • 

 Sept. 7 to 10.— Hamilton, Ontario. A. D. Stewart, Sec'y. 



FIELD TRIALS. 



Aug. 31,— Manitoba Field Trials, at Morris, Man. A. Holloway, 

 Winnipeg, Man., Sec'y. 



Sep'. 5.— North western Field Trials Club, at Morris, Man. Thos. 

 Johnson, Winnipeg, Man.. Sec'v. 



Oct. 25.— Third Annual Field Trials of the National Beagle Club. 

 atNanu»t, N. Y. Bench show of the club Oct. 34. H.V.Jamie- 

 son, Sec'y. 



Mov. 7 -International Field Trials Olub. third annual trials, at 

 Chatham, Ont. Amateur Stake, Nov. 7. Open Stakes, Nov. 8. 

 W. B. Weltp, Sec'y. 



N"v 7.— United States Field Trial", at Elizabethtown, Ky. P. 

 T. Madi^or, Indianapnlis. Ird.. Sec'y. 



Nov. 8.— New England F'pld Trials, at Aaeonet, Mass. B. 

 Knight .Sperry, New Huven, Conn,, Sec'y. 



Nov. 14.— Fourth Annual Trials of the Brunswick Fur Club, at 

 Princeton, Mass. J. H. Ba'rd. Sec'y. 



Nov. 15.— American Field Trials, at Columbus, Ind. W, J. Beck. 

 Sec'y. 



Nov. 31.-Ea8tern Field Trial Club Trials, at High Point, N. C. 

 W. A. Ooster, Se'i'p. 

 Nov. 28.-Philadelphia Kennel Club Trials, at High Point, N. C. 



F. G.Tivlnr, Sec'v. 



Dec. 5.— Central Field Trials, at Lexington, N. C. Col. Ode 11, 

 Sec'y. 



Dec. 19.-Irish Setter Field Trials, at Lexington, N. C. Dr. G. 



G. Davis, Philadelphia, Pa., Sec'y. 



1893. 



January.— Pacific Coast Field Trials, at Bakersville, Cal. J. M. 

 Ki'garif, Sec'y. 



Feb. 8.— Southern Field Trials, at New Albany, Miss. T. M. 

 Brumby. Sec'y, 



ABOUT THE BEAGLE CHALLENGE. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



Under date of Aug. 7 the Horn ell-Harmony Kennels, per 

 "Uncle Dick," replies to my "Challenge to Beagle Owners" 

 and he opens up as follows, viz : "Any man, woman or 

 child can buy good dogs if they have the cash, but it re- 

 quires gumption to breed prize winners," all of which i.s 

 duly noted. 



I fully agree with our "Uncle" that a win to the credit 

 of your own breeding is highly pleasing and encouraging. 



Supposing you buy au unmatured youngster at a long 

 price, bring him out as your repi'*-sentative in puppy or open 

 class, do you consider the rewards of your anxiety or antici- 

 pations less valuable .simply because you did not actually 

 breed the bitch ? 



I contend that the man who speculates on the puppy based 

 on long price, is tbe man who possesses the "gumption," and 

 not the man who breeds the bitch and turns thfl puppies out 

 in a pen for better or for worse. The Hornell-Harmony Ken- 

 nels ask that I change the wording of my challenge to read 

 five dogs, buttbree must be bred by owne" If you have 

 five beagle dogs and I have five, are yours better or mine, 

 poorer, or vice versa, because three of yours or three of mine 

 are our own breeding? 



Mv challenge was i'^sued for the express purpose of mak- 

 ing it a matter of record as to who had the best five beagle 

 dogs scored on their respective bench qualities. 



My challenge further reads that dog^ must be over ISin, 

 and under 15in. Why our "Uncle" should confess being 

 puzzled as to my two extreme sizes I am puzzled to know. 

 A beagle under 12in. is not bred for the size he has obtained, 

 but is simply a "happenstance," and in eighty per cent, of 

 such cases he was the dwarf of the litter and cannot possibly 

 be considered a good, strong and healthly stock-gettei'. A. 

 dwarf may happen pretty as well as ugly, but he certainly is 

 lacking in bone and substance -which is so essential a quality 

 for a good producing stud. 



In conclusion and further reference to my challenge I 

 would say that bench show qualities was the only point 

 which I sought to make this time. I will say, however, that 

 if any one has any desire to match his beagles against others 

 for field qualities, a properly issued challenge would be in 

 order, as that would give every one an equal opportunity of 

 accepting. H. L. Kkeudee. 



Nanuet, N. v., Aug. 16. 



Low Rate Harvest Excursions. 



The announcement that the North-Western Line, comprising 

 over 8 OOO miles of thoroughly f quipt'ed railsvav. has arranged to 

 run two low rate Harv^st ExcuiBions during the months of A'lg- 

 ust and September, will be gladly received by those who are in- 

 terested in the developmfnt of the great West and Northwest, as 

 well as hv those who desire to visit this worderfully productive 

 ngion at a season of the year when exact demonBtration can be 

 made nf the merits and advantagas it oft'^rs to home seekers ai-d 

 those in search of sate and protitHble investmpnts. These excur- 

 sions wUl leave Chicago on Aug. 30 and S°pt. 37. and tickets can 

 be purchased at the very low rate of one farelor the round trip to 

 points in Iowa, Minnesota, N"rth and Sotilh Dakota. Nebr^f-ka, 

 Wyomine, Colorado, Utah, Idaho and Montana. They will be 

 strictly ftrat-class in every particular, and will b« good for return 

 passage at any time within twenty days from date of purchase. 

 Full information eoncerninff rates and arrangements tor tnese 

 excursions c»n be ohtainfd upon application to any coupon ticket 

 agent, or to W. A. Thralij, G P. T. A., Chicago & North-Western 

 Rail way, Chicago.— ^du. 



The Adirondacks. 



Sportsmen and others intending to visit the Adirondacks should 

 send to J. VV. Burdick. eeneral passenger agent of the Delaware 

 & Hudson R. R., Albany, JS Y.. for the company's illustrated 

 guide to the Northerti resorts, ly^rch will be sent po.st paid on re- 

 ceipt of six cents.— .Adu, 



"Papa," said a little Washington girl, "tell me a story." 

 "Well, I'll tell you a true story." "1 don't lilie true stories." 

 "I don't know any other kind." "Oh. yeg, von do. Tell 

 Hie 'botit the last time you went fishin',"— TfasMft(/to% Sta/r, 



GOOD WORDS FOR THE IRISH SETTER, 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



The red Irish setter dog Don F., advertised in your columns 

 last March, which I bought from Mr. John Pox, of La Fay- 

 ette, Ind., was in very poor health for two or three months 

 after he reached me, owing to the extremely cold weather 

 experienced in transit here; but he is now in very good 

 form. 



I brought him out on July 2 to the Allamuchy Game 

 Farm, Warren county, N. J., kept by Mr. Donald McVicar, 

 who bad been formerly keeper for tbe Duke o£ Argyle, Scot- 

 land, and the Duke of Leinster, Ireland, and keeper of 

 Rutherford Park, New Jersey, for the last five years 



I went out to the farm on Saturday. July 30, to find that 

 another red setter, Flash, also advertised for sale in your 

 paper, which I bought from Dr. A. P. Hull, of Montgomery 

 Station, Lycoming county. Pa., had arrived there two days 

 before. He was in fine working condition, and we took both 

 dogs out to i,he field, where Don F. got a point and Flash 

 backed him beautifully on a covey of English partridge, 

 eighteen in number, the brood being a little larger than 

 full-grown quail. They flushed and crossed a fence into an 

 oatfield adjoining, when the dogs got several points, alter- 

 nately leading and backing, both working magnificently. 

 They also got a point on a covey of quail, but the little beau- 

 ties could not fly more than 4 or 5yds. 



I think it would be well worth the time and the expense 

 of the trip to go out there and see Mr. McV. raising English 

 pheasants by hand. He has now about 200 of them, varying 

 from a month to three month old. He is also raising Bel- 

 gian rabbits. Any sportman wanting a competent trainer 

 or breaker to attend to his dogs would do well to call upon 

 him, as he is both trustworthy and efficient in management 

 of all kinds of sporting dog.s. P. K. 



BBO0KX.YN, N. Y. 



A valuable dog belonging to a resident of the hill bit a 

 drunken man the other day and the anxious owner is think- 

 ing seriously of having the animal treated at a Keeley ia- 

 I stitTxte,—BrooMyn Eagle. 



