89^ 



FOREST AND STREAM 



(Nov. 3, 1893. 



The reply of the Cup committee to Lord Dimraven, as read at the 

 meeting of the New York T. C, contains little of moment other than 

 the quoting of the very peeuh'ar resolution passed at the previous 

 meeting of the club, "That while the trust deed obliges the club 

 having the custody of the cup to accept the conditions therein pre- 

 scribed, if so elected by the challenger, as it also permits such club 

 to accept any conditions mutually agreed on, this club regards any 

 further understandings or agreements as unnecessary, and will make 

 no agreement that, in the event of becoming a challenger, it will 

 adopt said terms in its challenge." 



As a specimen of "English as she is wrote," this sentence is worthy 

 of a place in the new deed itself; it would be a difficult matter to 

 frame the same number of words into a more indirect or round- 

 about answer to a plain question. 



The first two clauses amount to nothing, and might well have been 

 omitted ; the final clause simply means that the club does not con- 

 aider it necessary to discuss the prime question of the legality of the 

 new deed. Wnether Lord Dunraven and his prospective backer will 

 also consider such a condition as unnecessary before challenging, re- 

 mains to be seen, 



Apropos of the measurement discussion. Lord Dunraven makes 

 the following suggestion iu the Field: 



. StR— Though the arguments anent measurement for rating are, I 

 thinkj proceeding on false premises, namely, that the present rule 

 produces an undesirable type, a change in ourruleappearsimniinent. 

 Would it te possible, before recasting the rule, for the council of the 

 Yacht Racing Association lo approach our American cousins with a 

 view of ascertaining whether an interchange of opinions would be 

 likely to result in the adoption of a uniform system in both countries ? 

 Such a consummation is so devoutely to be wished that the possibility 

 Qt attainment would fully justify "the continuance of our present 

 rule for a reasonable time. Dunraven. 



There is probably no good reason why a system of measurement 

 which is applicable in one counir.y should not be equall.y good in 

 another, and the advantages of a common system of measurement 

 between at least the United States and Great Britain are too clear to 

 call for proof. It would mark a great advance in yachting if the 

 next change of rule by either side could be made in conjunction with 

 the other, giving one common rule for both nations. 



'l UK comments of the Boston Herald on the deed of gift are rather 

 TBguethis week; in fact, it goes so far as to term that important 

 document a "deal." Of course it still declines to discuss the issue of 

 the legality of the new deed, and of the manner in which it was 

 adopied. the sole allusion to this matter being as follows: "About 

 the secrecy business of five years ago, the late Philip (?) Schuyler 

 ha,d the terms of the new deed two days In his possession, and care- 

 fully went over all of its clauses, and returned it to the members of 

 the' New York Yacht Club." Everyone knows that the new deed 

 was submitted by the committee to Mr. George L. Schuyler: our 

 poifit, which the Herald as usual dodges, is that it was not submitted 

 ij* any way to the members of the New York Yacht Club until it had 

 been finally executed. 



The most remarkable statement in Mr. Smith's semi-official de- 

 fense of the New Y'ork Y.C. is the following: "If he [Lord DunravenJ 

 wins the cup we do not require of him that it should be held under 

 the deed of gift. He can hold it to be challenged for, subject to the 

 ooDditions under which he won it, or he can be even more liberal if 

 he so elects." Directly opposed to this positive statement of a mem- 

 ber of the Cup coramitlee is the equally positive statement of an- 

 other member, Gen. Paine, that "This challenge is under the new 

 deed of gift." With these two statements before him it is not strange 

 that the meaning of it all is not clear to Lord Dunraven, or even 

 that charges of quibbling and equivocation are made by the oppon- 

 ents of the club. 



The representative of the Boston Herald has visited Bristol and 

 returned with the interesting information that the mast of the Car- 

 roll 8I-footer is to be made from a 3iiin. stick. From this valuable 

 data he proceeds to evolve the various details of the new boat. His 

 statement that the boat is to be built a la Thistle, concealed from all 

 save designer and workmen, we cannot credit, as such methods are 

 entirely un-American. Locked doors and soaped windows may be 

 the proper thing on the Clyde, but no American builder would 

 descend to such tricks. 



It is not to be wondered at that, as Lord Dunraven says, the mean- 

 ittgof this clau5e is not clear to him; but its practical operation is 

 -well understood on this side. In the event of his winning the races 

 the America's Cup will not be delivered to him until he has signed a 

 paper acknowledging the new deed as the only valid instrument un- 

 der which the Cup can be raced for. All the verbosity and circumlo- 

 cution in the world cannot change this plain fact. 



New York Y. C. 



The regular October meeting of the New York Y. C. was hell on 

 Oct. 27 with Com. Gerry In the chair. 



The following members were elected as a nominating committee 

 for the next board of officers: Lloyd Phoenix. Ralph N Ellis Arcbi 

 hald Rogers, Robert Center, W, P. Douglass, W. E. Iselin E M Pad 

 elCord, J. R. Piatt. E. E, Chase, and H. C, Ward ' 



The following members were elected: E. de Funiak, Dr S H 

 Dickson. Lieut. B. H. Buckingham, Nathaniel Reyual, Nathan Seeley" 

 Alfred Hooper, T. R. Hostetter, Lieut. .1. P. Wilson, Horace P. Hutcfi- 

 Pettit" Mason, Joseph Decker, A. E. Tower, and Ralaiid S. 



The letter sent by the Cup Committee to Lord Dunraven was read 

 being as follows: ' 



T J , , „ . New York, Oct. 20, 1892. 



J^t^^'t' }'^'' if"?,*; of 16th of September was submitted to 

 the New \ork Yacht Club at a meeting held Oct. 18 The club as- 

 pomted a committee of five, with power to arrange a match for the 

 Americas Cup with any qualified yacht club upon the terms of the 

 with tne exception that no dimension except the 



teL°H*''^.h''f'^'^\*^'"''°''v''*'^<^ ^'^e" *1e challenger, and 

 the addition that neither yacht shall exceed by more than 2 oer cent 

 the length upon the load waterlioe named bv the challeu-er and 

 any excess over the lenglh upon the load waterllne named by the 

 challenger on the pai-t of either yachD shall be eonnted double in 

 ealculatmg time allowance; provided that no yacht of the spec fled 

 f '^r,,"^"' ^^f^}?^ °V construction, aud known to be avail- 



peiiaUzed "'^^ defending the cup. shall be barred or 



This committee cannot, of course, say what yachts excepted bv 

 the above proviso exceed by 2 per cent, the load-water line of you? 

 vessel until they are informed of the intended length ^ 

 ^J^^^^^^^^^}Vi^%,&boye terms seem to infer the time allowance 

 ^heproSStion Clitb, which we therefore consider part of 



^ f'^'t^er add that as to the details of sailmg the match 

 alluded to m your letter, we think they can be easily arranged after 

 a challenge has been made in the proper form bylquaffi yacht 



Regarding your Lordship's proposition that "iti^ to be undprwonH 

 Of It^a holding 7'^:''^'"?"P tl^e club obtaining^heS^^^^^ 

 ot It snaji nold it open to a challenge on the same conriirinno no 

 ^o'!?,^,'^!?,'^^ ^ Challenged," we are instructed ^the New Yo?k 

 Yacht Club to reply -that while the trust deed obfees the club Lv?n^ 



-n^ ««V?5sHXi^ Challenger, as it also permits such club to acceDt 

 (Mij- oou(U«oM mutually agreed oa, lU&olub regards any f?5ther 



uridei'standings or agreemeuts as iiiinecessaiT. and wll! make uo 

 agreement that in the event of becoming a cliall soger it will adopt 

 said terms in its challenge." 



This committee heartily concurs with your Lordship in expressing 

 the hope that next year may be productive of a most interesting in- 

 ternational contest. 



I have the honor to remain, very respectfully, 



Chahles J. Paine, Chairman. 



Lord Dunraven and tlie New Deed. 



The following lengthy interview with Lord Dunraven was cabled 

 to N<^w York by thfi Associated Press on Monday: 



LoxDoif, Oct. :V) — Lord Dunraven has given to the A.'isociated 

 Prea-, m an interview, a atatemtnt of his position in connection with 

 the ccalienge he recently sent to the New York Y. C. for a race for 

 the America's cup. 



Since he rcLurned to London last week Lord Dunraven has refused 

 to discuss the challenge, but in view of the apparent hitch in the ne- 

 goliations he consented before departing for Scotland last evening to 

 explain his posiiion. 



Being asked, "Are the ?.hance.'^ for a race good?" he replied: 



"I cannot possibly tell I hope so, but a definite opinion i-i impos- 

 siole until I near further from the New York committee. Judging 

 from what I have se"en in the American press, I greatly fear the 

 chance.s are doubtful; but— excuse ray saying so— I do not attach 

 much importance in such eases to neivspaper gossip." 



' To what do you especially allude?" Lord Dunraven was asked. 



"A New York paper ot Oct. 20 states that the New York Y. C. had 

 voted that 'while the deed of trust obliges the club having the cus- 

 tody of the cup to accept the conditions therein prescribed, if so 

 elected by the challenger, as it also permits such club to accept any 

 conditions mutually agreed upon this club regards any further un- 

 derstandings or agreements as unnecessary, and will make no agree 

 ment that, id the event of it becoming a challenger, it will adopt such 

 terms in its ehallengd.' " 



"The meaning of this i< not clear to me," continued Lord Dunra- 

 ven. "If it means that 'he club declines, should it become the chal- 

 lenger, to bind itself absolutely to observe the conditions of m v chal- 

 lenge, i quite agree and resolve never to think of asking them* s j to 

 do. If It means that the club through which I challenge, in the event 

 of my winning, must hold ihe cup under the full terms of the new 

 deed of gift, thrn we are no further f'irward than we were in the 

 case of I'ne Valkyrie, and this projected race will also break down," 



"Must that ooviously be the meaning of the resolve?" 



' No, not obviously, but 1 admit rhat it looks like it. The New 

 York club must have known that it would be useless to revert to the 

 posiiion which broke up the Valkyrie match, and would have simply 

 declined my challenge." 



"But If under the new deed of gift your challenge can be accepted 

 and you are at libertv to accept a similar challenge, are not all of 

 your wants fulfilled?" 



"Ceriamly not. For simplicity's sake 1 will confine mv objections 

 to the dimensions clause, and for the sake ot argument: will assume 

 that I am challerging the representative opinion of yachtsmen and 

 yacht clubs here. When the Royal Yacht Squadron in 1837 stated 

 that the new deed would be fatal to international racing it spoke for 

 us all. Opinions have not changed. I am perfectly certain that no 

 challenge will issue from us according to the terms of that deed." 



"It is true the deed contains a clause permitting the challenger and 

 the challenged mutually to arrange the dates, the courses and other 

 conditions, and also to waive the ten months" notice. It is under 

 this permissive clause that the Valkyrie's challenge was accepted. 

 It was pointed out that thereunder the Royal Y^achc Squadron, if it 

 won. could accept any challenge it liked. That may or may not be 

 so. The meaning of Ihe donors ia a matter for lawyers to decide." 



■'For myself I say that the fact specially mentioned tnat ten 

 months' notice may be waived means tbat the other main rules may 

 not. In any ca.se our position cannot depend upon legal interpreta- 

 tion of the phrase. We object to the deed as unfair in the abstract. 

 I am unwilling to do anything that can be construen as implying that 

 we think it fair in the event tbat vt-e are challenged. 



"Please understand that in my conditional challenge I ask no 

 io 'c of favor from the New York Yacht Club 1 do not a k 

 for conditions which in my humble opinion should govern intcna- 

 tional races. Tailing the deed of gift as a basis, I suggest the small- 

 est possible alteration that I think will make sufficiently fair condi- 

 tions to all concerned. I challenge under certain conditions. If the 

 New York Club accept, good: but whether it accepts in accordance 

 with or defiance of tne deed of gift is no matter to me. But I insist 

 that if I win I not only may but must accept a challenge on the same 

 conditions.'- 



'•Of course it does not follow that I can accept a challenge under 

 those conditions only. I do not mean that at all. 



"If I win the cup and the New York Club challenges, there is 

 nothing to prevent them from so doing under the terms of the deed 

 if they like. I could not possibly refuse such a challenge. They 

 may furnish me with not only tbe length on the load- water line, 

 wnich S consider sufficient, but also with the beam load-water line, 

 and other stipulations of the deed. They may send me a midship 

 section, tbe length of her lines or the vessel herself if they like 

 I could not possibly object. On the contrary. I should be exceed- 

 ingly obliged. My proposal in no nay limits the powers of a future 

 cbailenger. It does not involve any admission on the part of the 

 New Y'ork Yacht Club that m their opinion the condition.s of the 

 deed of gift is too onerous. Nor will it prevent them, as possible 

 future cballengers. from giving practical proof of their faith by 

 giving in their challenge all dimensions mentioned iu the deed. I 

 only insist that it be perfectly clear that 1 hold the cup on the same 

 terms under which I challenged, and that in no way .sanction rules 

 wbich as appUed against myself, I consider unfair." 



"But would you not be practically annulling the deed of gift?" 



"I think not only— putting it partially in abeyance. The opinion is 

 freely expressed here—and I think not here onlv— that Mr. Schuyler 

 had no legal right whatever to agree to the new deed, and that the 

 cup is legally under the old deed. 1 think that the New York Club 

 might consider the intention of the donors. If the latter meant in- 

 ternational challenges to encourage racing, it mtist be evident to 

 every one that.the objects are frustrated by an mstrument rendering 

 international racing impossible. 



"I confess I do not see any legal difficulty or who would object if 

 the club should amend the deed to enable the club to carry out the 

 donor s intentions. I fail to see how the New York Club can in any 

 way stultsfy themselves by agreeing to my proposal. It would be 

 easy to stipulate that the club transmitting my challenge snould hold 

 the cup if it wins subject to a precisely similar caallenge, provided 

 tbat it be not thereby debarred from accepting a challenge contain- 

 ing the dimensions provided for in the gift. But such a proviso ap- 

 pears to me totally unnecessary. No club will refuse a challenge be- 

 cause it contains more information than is required." 



"Then, if the New York Yacht Club insists that the cup must be 

 held according to the full terms of the deed, does your challenge fall 

 to the ground ?" 



"Yes, but I cannot believe that the New York Y'acht Club contem- 

 plates sucn action, which would be simple reverting to the position 

 that broke the Valkyrie challenge, and is obviously equivalent to 

 meeting the present proposal with a flat non poxsnmus:' 



'•Will you, in any case, build a new yacht to defend the cup oit'ered 

 bv the Royal Victoria Club, for instance?" 



'•Really, I have no thought about that. I do not know whether it is 

 true that air. Carroll has ordered a cutter of the Herreshoffs which 

 he intends to bruig here. I hope the report is correct. Unless some 

 one builds, audi see no indication at present to fear Mr Carroll I 

 shall not have much sport. ' ' 



"One cup lies with the Wendur, the other with the Iverna With- 

 out disparagement to my friend Lord Calldon's ship, he might as 

 well sail a Thames barge as the old Wendur agamst the new Herres- 

 hoff. The utmost possible would be got out of the Iverna, but she is 

 not as good as the Thistle. You know what the Volunteer did to the 

 latter. I can guess the fate of the Volunteer vnth the new Herres- 

 hofl:. I am afraid the big cutter would have an exciting time The 

 forties would have a chance m very light weather and that's 'about 

 all. We are badly situated at present. With a possibility of a chanee 

 in the rating rales, no one is inclined to build. All the same I sin- 

 cerely hope Mr. Carroll will come. He will find all our regattas open 

 to him and he will meet with a very hearty welcome." 



As Lord Dunraven wa.s about to depart the reporter asked: ' 'Are 

 you sanguine of success should your challenge for the America's cun 

 be accepted?" ' 



Lord Dunraven replied: "If you mean as sanguine as whe-- I chal- 

 lenged with the Valkyne, certainly not. I have an immense opinion 

 of Merreshoff s boats. It is probable my antagonist would be de- 

 .signed by him and she will be very hard to beat, but I should like to 

 try conclusions, if the cup could only be placed under regulations 

 fairly satisfactory to both parties, racing for it would be freouent 

 and m course of time we should oring it here. But it might take 

 time. The big Herreshoff is an unknown quantity at present-to ul 

 Sit any rat©." 



The last quarterly number of the Proceedings of the United States 

 Naval Institute is devoted entirely to a very full report of the 

 lectures on '-First Aid to the Injured, and the Transportation of the 

 \younded,".dellvered last wmter by Dr. Henry G. Beyer Pa^^^^ a« 

 sistant Surgeon U. S. Navy, to the first class of cadeTat AmiaDolir 

 A lw«e number of good iUuetrations supplements the text 



Newspaper Comments. 



The New York Hccordi-r. which h^s thus far siqiponed the new 

 deed through thick and chin, deals with the present state of affairs 

 in true Donnybrook Fair fashion— where you see a head, hit it— and 

 in the course of one article contrives to get in a blow at the Royal 

 Yacht Squadron, Dixon Kemp, Lord Dunraven, Mr. Watson, the 

 Seawanhaka Cor. Y". C, and last of all, sad to say, at the New York 

 Y. G. itself, the latter being as follows: 



"The New York Yacht Club, in the matter of Lord Dunraven's 

 challenge, has made up its mind to masticate a small dish of crow 

 and try to keep it down. It is not the huge platter of that unsavory 

 bii-d presented for the delectation of their palates by the Britisher. 

 Thst in good socth might have been too much for the premier yacht 

 organization of the Westeru World to swallow, much less digest, but 

 m the olla-podrida which the club has undertaken to partake of, the 

 fiivor of crow— faint, it might be— permeates and predorauiates like 

 the morsel of garlic in a wefi made Spanish omelette. 



'•The Sew York Yacht Club virtually agreed to give up this objec- 

 tionable deed of gift for whose provisfons it ha 1 fought so strenuous 

 ly three years ago. That was its little dish of crow. I hope it may 

 prove palatable. The situation has not chaneed iu the sUghtest de- 

 gree. By its action the club concedes that the document was origin- 

 ally unfair. It admits that it was the work of .sea lawyera and not 

 of sportsmen, as the Field has always contended. John H. Bu-d, 

 who drew up the deed, told me that Gen. Paine fully agreed with 

 every word of it, and that it was also approved of by most of the 

 representative yachtsmen of New York and Boston. Tne opinions 

 of these yachtsmen have undergone a wonderful change in a short 

 time. Kemp has made hosts of converts. He deserve.s congratula- 

 tions." 



While the Eecorder's statement of the situation may not be far 

 wide of the truth, no other paper has yet ventured to depict it in 

 such harsh and cruel language. The Tr Ibv n e s&vs: "The pressure 

 of public sentiment and in a measure a change of neart on the part 

 of the members of the New York Y. C. have made another race pos- 

 sible. That faction wbich would place barriers in the way of an In- 

 ternational race has lost its numbers and its prestige. The healthy 

 sporting sentiment of the club has asserted itself and the popular 

 side now is the one which favors making every possible concession 

 if by so doing a race can be brought about and the long deadlock 

 broken. That contingent which two years ago considered it high 

 treason for one to lift his voice against the last deed of gift now falls 

 placidly into line, and each vies wth the other in expressions of de- 

 light at the concessions made. This change has not been brought 

 about without long and "lard work on the part of the better ele- 

 ments of the club and by a general public senfment which even the 

 NewYorkY. O. could not wholly ignore. It is high time that the 

 members of the New York Y. 0. realized that while the public 

 neither knows nor cares what they do as a club, yet as trustees of 

 the America's cup they hold in trust the honor of American yachts- 

 men and the maritime pride of the nation, and the public demands, 

 and has a right to demand, a strict accounting Not so long ago a 

 prominent meratier of the New Y'ork Y*. C. said: "I don't see what 

 the newspapers and the people have got to do with the cup anyway. 

 The members of the ciiib are the orily ones who have a right to say 

 anything. Such a case as this is of course hopeless, and auger gives 

 place to pity." 



Bights or Concessions? 



The New York papers of Oct. 30, published the following cable: 

 London, Oct. 29.— The Field to-aay publLshes a verv severe ar- 

 raignment of the New York Yacht Club; brouB;tit one tiy the club's 

 letter to Lord Dimraven regarding a race next year for thp America's 

 Cup. The J'/eW accuses the club of attempting a confidence trick 

 and says it is to be hopod that no British yacht club will be found 

 complaisanf. enough to back a challenge ma"di under the new deed of 

 gift or while the deed is in existence. 



Continuing, the Field says that the American people should under- 

 stand that the obstacle to a contest for the Amtrica's Cup in Ameri- 

 can waters is the manner in which certain m;^mbers of the New 

 York Yacht Club have tempted with the trust confided to them by 

 five Amfrican gentlemen .since 18.57. The club it add.s, was maue 

 the trustee for the whole yachting world. The terms of the trust 

 have been so altered that the aims of the donors have been frus- 

 trated." 



Very naturally this criticism has given olIen.9e to the New York 

 Y. 0., and has resulted in an interview on the part of the representa- 

 tives of the various papers with Mr. James D. Smith, one of the older 

 members, an ex-ofHcer of the club, who has taken a prominent part 

 in all past negociations over the cup, and is now on the special com- 

 mittee of five. 



In the course of an extended interview. Mi-. Smith expresses him- 

 self very freely in regard to Mr. Dixon Kemp, at the same time citing 

 the names of previous challengers as fully satisflerl with the treat- 

 ment accorded them by the New York Yacht Club.' 



The latter portion of the interview is as follows: 



" 'Since ia5l, when the America captured the Cup, up to the 

 present tirne we have made a variety of concessions to the chal- 

 lenging party under the mutual agreement clause. I mav summa- 

 rize some of them as follows, without regard to chronological order ; 



" 'First— The change from an inside course to an open course 



" 'Second- With regard to time allowance, that in the event of a 

 faUure to agree there should be no time allowance. 



" 'Third— Making the races best three in five, with the proviso 

 that in the event of fafiure to agree upon these terms the possession 

 of the Cup should be settled by one race over the inside course. 



•'■ 'Fourth— Consenting to have the races sailed over both wind- 

 ward and triangidar courses. 



" 'Fifth— Changing the length of the coui'se. 



" 'Sixth— Changing the time limit for making the race. 



" 'Seventh— Waiving the time required under the deed of gift for' 

 making a challenge. 



" 'Eighth— Accepting only load waterline length from a challenger 

 instead of the various dimensions stipulated for under the deed nf 

 gift. 



" 'Ninth— To sail only one yacht against the challenging yacht in- 

 stead of a fleet, the -America having won the Cup against a fleet of 

 British yachts. 



" 'Tenth- -Agreeing to match a yacht not more than 2ft. longer on 

 the load waterline than Ihe challenging boat under the penalty of 

 double lime allowance for all excess of length beyond that.' " 



This decalogue of favors s jiuids well to the casual reader, but will 

 not .stand a very close analysis. 



In the first place, the interpretation of the mutual agreement 

 Clause which the club is now insisting on is the strongest nossible 

 condemnation of its course in the past in refusing to make any agree- 

 ment with challengers, and forcing one yacht to sail against the fleet, 

 in granting one race only, in insisting on a course notoriouslv unfair 

 to the deeper vessels of tne challengers, and in declining a" mutual 

 agreement as to size of defender and challenger. So far from being 

 concessions, the club has exacted the most onerous conditions, only" 

 abandoning them one by one as it has been compelled by public 

 opmion. 



The restrictions as to dimensions were never in the original deed, 

 but were made by the club, and have only been abandoned within 

 the jiast two weeks in order to induce a ciiailenge. 



As we understand the recent action of the club, the "no time 

 allowance" clawse, would work to the rtet'iment of the challenger, 

 and not to the benefit, has not been abandoned, but in 

 the event of any late disagreement just priorto a race, the 

 club has still the right to fall back on thLs clawse, and 

 to meet Lord Dunraven with the largest yaclit at its disposal, without 

 time allowance. This point, like most of the others in the new dead, 

 is not very clear, but as we understand it, a disagreement at any time 

 permits the defender to avail himself of the unfair provisions of this 

 clause. 



It is a matter of history that the inside course after being con- 

 demned for years by many! American yachtsmen, was only abandoned 

 when the club reahzed that the 22ft. draft of Mayflower and Volun- 

 teer was more heavily penalized than the 13ft. draft of Genesta and 

 Thistle. Similarlj;, it was not tmtil the theory of the superior speed 

 of the centerboard boat down wind was exploded and her superiority 

 to wuidward fully demonstrated that the clause calling for windward 

 starts was thought of. 



Many of these matters, like the starting of the fleet against one 

 yacht, are dead issue.s, and so little to the credit of the New Y'^ork 

 Y. C. that we have no de.sire to resurrect them, bin when a repre- 

 sentative member of the club is so unwise as to dig them up and pre- 

 sent them m false guise as evidences of the club's gnnerosily and 

 liberality, it is his fault and not ours if we are forced to exnose 

 them. ' 



There is more iu the history of the past Cup races to hurt than to 

 help the club, and it will do well to confine all futm-e discussion to 

 the abstract, but most vital question of what conditions constitute a 

 fair match to-day between two yachtsmen. It there is to be any 

 more racing for the America's Cup it must be under conditions which 

 are recognized by both -American aud foreign clubs as absolutely fair 

 and sportsmanUke to both holder and challenger. 



Lawley & Son have nearly finished theu- 70ft. steamer and have 

 framed the Providence schooner. They are getting out the fj-ames 

 for a catboat for St. Johns, N, B.. from a design of Mr. Burgess, and 

 have also ready ttie design for a 90£t. steam yacht which the v may 

 build for Mr. R. S. White. 



