Deo. 1, 1892.] 



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FOREST AND STREAM. 



DOG CHAT. 



Central Field Trials- 



We have received the following communication from the 

 secretary of the Central Field Trials Club: "Nov. 27, 1893, 

 Central Field Trials at Lexington, N, C.—G. H. Odell, Sec'y-" 



Messrs Guy Welton and Thos. Blake have been appointed 

 a committee to confer with the A. K. C. about dates for the 

 City of the Straits first dog show next spring. 



Realizing that next year the Brooklyn show must be a 

 greater one than that held last week, the N, G. C. are in 

 hopes that they can secure the Twenty-third Regiment 

 armory. The attendance last week was said to have been 

 nearly' 18,000. 



Seminole Kennels purchased during the Brooklyn show 

 the Irish setters Young Glencho and Tim's Dandy, the lat- 

 ter second and the former vhc. reserve in the open dog class. 

 This purchase will still further strengthen Dr. Sauveur'a 

 good team. 



The Judging of the specials given by Messrs. Alesop & Sons 

 at Brooklyn Thursday evening, was one of the events of the 

 show. My. Huntington's Russian wolfhounds madea grand 

 showing and there was little hesitation in giving him the 

 ribbon for the best owned by a resident of Brooklyn. The 

 other special was for the New Yorkers on the same basis. 

 The Hempstead Farm Kennels showed 5 pointers, 5 collies, 

 2 bulldogs, 2 Irish setters and 4 wire-haired fox-terriers. 

 Messrs. Rutherfxird, 5 smooth fox-terriers; Retnor Kennels, 

 4 bull-terriers; Tubby Hook Kennels, 4 bull-terriers, 1 grey- 

 hound and 1 foxhound; Woodlawn Kennels, 4 greyhounds; 

 A. E. Foster, 3 spaniels; Col. Ruppert, 5 St. Bernards; E. A. 

 Manice, 7 dachshunds; F. Senn, 5 toy spaniels. These made 

 a splendid display, and as the special was for best exhibit, 

 several very level teams had to go out and the issue was left 

 between Hempstead Farm and Col. Ruppert. Taking it al- 

 together the decision^tbat gave the "ale" to the former could 

 not be cavilled at. Mr. Mortimer has made his presence felt 

 in the firm already. 



During the judging of fox-terriers at Brooklyn a lady was 

 heard to remark, "Well, Mr. Belmont may be a handsome 

 man, but I don't like his style of dress," alluding to "our 

 only German's" gaiters. 



Mr. John Hefferman has had little luck with Ms St. Ber- 

 nard bitch Lady Hibernia that he purchased from Mr. 

 Booth. She died last Sunday week from the effects of 

 poison. The death of this bitch is much to be regretted, as 

 she was undoubtedly the best on the Pacific coast. 



Frank F. Dole has sold Sir Rudolph and some bull-terrier 

 pups to a fancier in Massachusetts. 



The National Greyhound Club held a meeting Nov, 25 at 

 the close of Brooklyn show. The Luse case was brought up 

 and Mr. Luse suspended and ordered to show cause before 

 February, 189.3, meeting why lie should not be disqualified 

 for entering a greyhound in the Derby at the late Great 

 Bendi coursing meeting, that was over age. The case of Mr. 

 Pnrbeck and Echo was referred to a committee, and Mr. 

 Whiton's resignation as vice-president was laid on the 

 table. 



There is some slight difference between baby shoes and 

 raw meat. The resemblance in parcels, however, led to an 

 amusing incident at Brooklyn. Mr. Whiton giving Andy 

 McGregor a small parcel of what he supposed was scraps 

 that his servant had put up for Lord Neverstill, Andy in a 

 hurry threw paper and all to the dog, when a handsome pair 

 of new baby shoes fell out before his Lordship, who natur- 

 ally turned up his nose at such lean fodder, and Andy hur- 

 ried away. 



Owing to the change of time in going to press last week, 

 several telegrams from our representative, Mr. Waters, 

 giving results of winning at the E. F. T. C. trials, arrived 

 too late. 



Mr. A. F. Hochwalt, of Dayton, Ohio, writes us that he 

 and IMr. Witidle have purchased the well-known pointer 

 Rush of Lad (19,.52l). He is by champion Bow out of Glad- 

 iola, she by Naso of Kippen out of Glauca. Lad is a young 

 dog, but he has already sired some good ones, chief among 

 which may be mentioned Lad of Rush, who won first in the 

 recent LT. S. trials Pointer Derby. He will be placed in the 

 public stud after. the shooting season. 



ROD AND GUN AND CAMERA. 



As a reeogaition of the important place of amateur photography 

 in its relation to sports of the Held and prairie and mountain and 

 forest and stream, the Forest and Stream otiera a series of 

 prizes for meritorious work with the camera. The conditions 

 under whicn these prizes will he given are in brief as here set 

 forth: 



There will be ten prizes, as follows; First S35. Second $30 

 Third $15. Fourth SIO. Six of |5 each. 



The competition will be open to amateurs only. 



The subjects must relate to Forest and Stream's field— game 

 and fish (alive or dead), sbooting and fishing, the camp, campers 

 and camp life, sportsman travel by land or water. 



There is no restriction as to the time when the pictures may 

 have been or may be made — whether in 1893 or in previous years. 



Pictures will be received up to Dec. 31, of this year. 



All work must be original; that is to say, it must not have been 

 submitted in any other competition, nor have been published. 



There are no restrictions as to make or style of camera, nor as 

 to size of plate. 



A competitor need not be a subscriber of Forest asd Stbeam. 



All photographs will be submitteed to a committee, shortly to 

 be annouac«d. In making their awards the judges will be in- 

 structed to take into consideration the technical merits of the 

 work as a photograph, its artistic qualities; and other things 

 being equal, the unique ami difficult nature of the subject. 

 PhotograpSis must be marked only with initials or a pseudonym 

 for identification. With each photograpb should he given name 

 of sender, title of view, locality, date, and name of camera. 



The pbotographs shall be the property of the Forest and 

 Stre.4iM. Till a applies only to the particular prints sent us. 



From time to time we shall reproduce by the half-tone process 

 samples of the work submitted, and should the interest in 

 Forest and Stream's Amateur Photography CoUeci ion prove 

 to be what is anticipated, we may ask for an expression of opinion 

 by a vote of all our readers after the manner of the successful 

 and famous "Camp-Fire Flickering Yote." Such popular vote 

 will be quite net from the award by the committee. 



TffiB. HfiKRBBBiiF'B' wi:ftea us that the formula suggested by him in 

 which bulk Is eoaployed as a divisor with the purpose of increasing 



a" V S a. 



the size of body, is as follows: Lx ' — ^ or Lx. — '■, D repr«- 



15 VU" isi/T' 

 senting displacement and T the gross Custom House tonnage. The 

 first formula would probably attain the end in view, but there is a 

 practical difflculiy in its application, in that it would be necessary 

 to dock each vessel and have her lines taken by the measurer; also 

 making public the displacement, the very element which designers 

 strive hardest to conceal. To the second formula, the one favored 

 by IVlr. Herreshoff, two serious objections present themselves; in the 

 first place, Custom House tonnage fails to measure modern yachts, 

 being inaccurate in all cases, and opening the way to endless discus- 

 sion in the case of some new craft. In the second place, such ton- 

 nage would .=itill place a premium on boat in the air in place of boat 

 in the water, and would so contribute to loug ends and excessive 

 freeboard at the expense of under- water body. 



In commenting on the case of pilot Walsh and the yacht Amelia, 

 the Marine Journal calls tor a LT. S. statute preventing any ama- 

 teur sailor from navigating any craft in the North River below Har- 

 iem, this side of Riker's Island in the East River, or above Bay Kidge 

 in the Bay. Such a measure as this would be as ridiculous as the 

 ruling of the Inspectors of Steam Vessels in the Medusa case, that it 

 was a yacht's duty at all times to get out of the way of a tugboat. In 

 the case ot the Amelia it was clearly proven that the yacht was run 

 into while on her course and with proper lights displayed. 



Whatever the opinion may be as to the merits of the changes 

 recommended by the council of the Y. R. A., every credit is due to 

 that body for the fair and thorough manner in which the recent in- 

 quiry, liKe that preceding the adoption of the present rule in 1887, 

 has been carried out. The full mimites of the evidence, a copy of 

 which we have just received, bear testimony to the liberal nature 

 and wide scope of the investigation, and make most interesting read- 

 ing. We hope to quote from them at length next week. 



While there is nothing radical in the proposed changes, the coun- 

 cil, as we think, wisely, declining to attempt to dictate as to form, 

 detail and construction of hull, the recommendations as to marking 

 of waterline, limitation of crew, and measurement of fore triangle 

 are all excellent. No doubt the inquiry, with the possibility of 

 amending the rule at any time when the necessity is apparent, will 

 exercise a certain restraining influence on the freaks. 



The Council has positively declined to tax either fore or after over- 

 hang, its view of the matter being similar to that advanced b.y For- 

 est ANn Stream, that excessive overhang at either end carries its own 

 penallyv 



The Herreshoft 84- footer, now well advanced, has been thus far as 

 carefully guarded as Thistle was, and with even less cause. It is very 

 amusing, after the abuse which it showered on IVb-. Watson and the 

 Royal Clyde Y, C, to read the Boston i?erai(i'.s justification of the 

 American firm for doing precisely the same thing. What is still 

 more amusing is that forced admission by the Herald that its alleged 

 dimensions and elements of the new yacht are pronounced incorrect 

 by the Herreshoffa. 



A correspondent calls attention this week to the abuse of the 

 term "rating," which has become so general in this country. No 

 American yacht clubs recognize a rating rule, and none have ever 

 adopted an official definition of the term rating; and imder the secir- 

 cumstauces it is absurd and misleading to employ a term having 

 already one specific meaning to yachtsmen which is widely different 

 from several attached to it in this country. 



Lord Dxjnbaven has laid down his views on international racing in 

 an article in the North American Beview for December, the subject 

 being treated in a very broad and liberal manner. One remark is of 

 especial interest at this time: "No challenge ever has been made or 

 will be made under the terms of that [the new] deed." 



British Measurement Rules. 



The inquiry into the present and prospective results of the Y. R. A. 

 rating rule which was instituted by the Y. R. A. last Augu.it has just 

 terminated, the following report appearing in the Field of Nov. iV); 



A meeting of the Council of the Yacht Racing Association was held 

 at the Royal London Yacht Club, Nov. 15, to consider the report of 

 the Measurement Committee and the evidence of the yacht designers 

 on the rule^for the rating of yachts in competitive sailing. There were 

 present Sir G. C. Larnpson, Bart, (in the chair). Major Frank Willan. 

 Major P. Hewitt, Mr. A. Planning, Mr. W. M. Dunnage, Col. A. D. Mc- 

 Gregor, Mr. T. B. C. West, Mr. C. IC. Newton-Robinson, Mr. G. E. 

 Lake, Mr. W. Baden Powell, Sir G. A. Leach, G. U. B., and Mr. Fred- 

 erick Cos. 



The committee and the yacht designers recommended the adop- 

 tion of the Seawanhaka rule, that rule being a HtJe easier on sail 

 than Y. R. A. when the square root of the sail area is greater than 

 the length of load line. 



The council now, after a discussion lasting about four hours, de- 

 cided to recommend that the existmg rule be retained, and agreed to 

 report to a general meeting, Dec. 6, as follows: 



" As the present i-ating rule will expire at the end of 1893, the coun- 

 cil appointed a committee to consider the workmg of the rule, and its 

 probable efl'ect on yachts and yacht racing, should it remain in 

 operation locger than its assigned period of seven years (dating from 

 188T inclusively). This committee obtained the views of the follow- 

 ing yacht designers: Messrs. 6. L. Watson, C. P. Clayton, W. Fife, 

 jr., J. M. Soper, A Richardson, A. E. Payne, C. E. NichoLon, and H. 

 W. Ridsdale, to whom the council desire to express their thanks for 

 the trouble they have taken in attending the committee, and for tlie 

 assistance and information tliey have been good enough to afford. 



" The council having given the most careful consideration to the 

 subject of the rating rule at present in force, and to the views of the 

 yacnt designers and others, agree in the view generally taken that, 

 iip to the present, the length and sail area rule has produced a fine 

 seaworthy, and fast type of vessel; and the council think that the 

 yacht designers, in their objections to the rule, have given too much 

 weight to the anticipated effect in the future of the rule on yacht de 

 signing from the 'accommodation' point of view, and seem' to have 

 somewhat under-estimated the importance of speed. 



" The council think that, in the designing ot racing yachts, speed 

 conjointly with seagoing qual ties, should have first consideration; 

 and they are of the opinion that no sufflcient reason has been given 

 for atpresent altering the existing rule, which they recommend should 

 be maintained. 



" With regard to details of measurement, the council, having con- 

 sidered this question, together with the evidence submitted, have 

 come to the conclusion that neither overhang should be taxed, nor 

 form be in any way dictated. The council are of opinion that over- 

 hangs, according to present practice, are not in themselves dangerous, 

 though they may be rendered so tbrough weakness of material or 

 faulty constmetion. The responsibility of a dangerous overhang 

 therefore rests with the constructor. This view is borne out by the 

 evidence of the yacht designers. 



" The yacht designei-s recommended that the load water line, 

 which is to be measured for rating, should be marked at the bow and 

 stem. The council agree with this suggestion, and recommend that 

 this be done by the owner, and that Rule 15 be varied so as to allow 

 ballast to be altered, subject to the conditions that it is not to be 

 shipped, unshipped, or shifted after 9 A. M. of the day previous to 



the race, and that the weight of ballast on board shall at no time ex- 

 ceed that which was on board when the yacht was measured, The 

 marks shall at all times be clear above the surface of the water when 

 the yacht is l.ying in smooch water, in her usual racing trim. 



"It was the unanimous opinion of the yacht designers that the 

 total number of persons on board during a race .should be limited in 

 the classes of 10 rating and under, and the council recommend thai 

 such limitation be carried out after consultation with the yacht clubs 

 as to the specific number to be allowed on board in each class. 



"With regard to the method Of measuring sails, the council recom- 

 mend that in the fore triangle the perpendicular, I, be taken from 

 the deck at the foreside of the mast to where the line of the ]uf¥ of 

 the foremost headsail when extended cuts such perpendicular: the 

 base, J, from foreside of mast to where the line of the luff of fore- 

 most headsail cuts the bowsprit, other spar or hull as the case may 

 be; and in the classes of 10-rating and under the actual area of the 

 headsail or spinnaker be taken. 



"The council have given very careful consideration to the question 

 of building to a specified standard of strength or scantling. Thft 

 naval architects, in their evidence, objected to any supervision by 

 Lloyd's, and did not think it desirable that the Y. R. A, should 

 appoint an expert for the purpose. 



"The council consider that many of the alleged defects in the exist- 

 ing boats, to which the naval architects referred, are mainly due to 

 lightness of the structural design, and, owing to the great difficulty 

 and expense of satisfactorily supervising the design and construction 

 of raciug yachts, the council consider it is better to leave the matter 

 to the owners and their designers to safeguard the interests con- 

 cerned, 



"The foregoing recommendations, if adopted, will come into force 

 at the expiration of 1893. 



"The council do not recommend that the rating rule should be 

 continued for any fixed term, as vested interests are guarded by 

 (jeueral Rule 13, which provides that no alteration can be made in the 

 rules except by a two-thirds majorit.v, both of meetings of the coun- 

 cil and of the as.sociation. 



"(Signed on behalf of the Council), G. Cv Lampson, 



"Vice-President." 



The Field also publishes the following report of another important 

 meeting ; 



"A meeting of Clyde Yacht Club delegates was held in the Bath 

 Hotel, Nov. 14. The various clubs were represented as undei : Royal 

 Northern, Messrs. Steven and T. F. Donald; Royal Clyde, Messrs. 

 Ure, Neil, and W. York (secretary); Royal Western, V.-U. .7. Stewart 

 Clark and Messrs M'Glashan and Thomson ; Royal Largs, Messrs. J. 

 Hiiliard and Craig; Mudhook, .Mr. Robert Wylie: C.C.Y.C., Messrs. J. 

 Connell, W. A, Wylie, A. Mitchell, E. M. Richmond, and R. Harvey 

 Pirie (secretary): West of Scotland Y. C, Messrs. Jas. A. Jarvie, 

 Thomas Lamo and J. M-Kirdy. The questions to be dealt with were 

 matters atfecting two of the most popular classes on the Clyde, viz., 

 the 17ft. l.w.l. and 23 l.w.l. boats. A reduction of sail area was 

 sought for the former, and a fixed restriction of sail area and length 

 over all tor the latter. Ere discussing these matters, the various 

 owners, both of present and prospective boats, were asked in rota- 

 tion to give their views on the subject. This done, they withdrew, 

 and, after long and careful discussion, the following rule was 

 adopted: 'That the sail area of the lift, l.w.l. class be reduced from 

 .530 to 4?0 square feet, and that, as before, the mainsail will contain 

 not more than -i'S of the total sail area." In dealing with the second 

 and more important class, a considerable diversity of opinion was 

 shown as to whether the sail area shotild be limited or unlimited. la 

 the end, a motion in favor of the former was carried, and the 

 measurements for this class have now been settled not to exceed 23£t, 

 l.w.l. and 30ft. over all, with a sail area restricted to 750 square feet. 

 In the absence of reliable data as to existing boats, the settlement of 

 fore triangle proportion was relegated to a sub-committee, whose 

 ruling will be given in a day or two. In addition, no plate, fin, bulb 

 keels, or centre-boards will be allowed in these classes, and the rules 

 made will hold In force for five years. A vote of thanks to Vice- 

 Commodore J. Stewart Clark concluded the meeting." 



Lord Dunraven's Letter. 



The looked-for letter from Lord Dunraveu arrived on the Ger- 

 manic on Nov. 18. and a meeting of the Cup committee was held to 

 consider it. The letter reads as follows: 



Dunraven Castle, Bsidoend, Glamorgan, Nov. 7. 



Sir: I have to acknowledge the receipt of your ie'ter of the SOth 

 of October, containing the reply of your committee to my letter of 

 leth of September. 



On the general terms of the races we seem to be at one. With re- 

 gard to your remark that "as to the details of sailing the match 

 alluded to in your letter, we thmk they can be easily arranged after 

 a challenge has been made in proper form by a qualified yacht club," 

 I take it that the details would be arranged within the propositions 

 made in former letters. 



With regard to your proviso "that no yacht of the specified rig, 

 either now existing or under constrnclion," I am quite agreeable to 

 sail any such yacht without any penalty beyond taking or giving the 

 ordinary trial allowances according to the New York r.C.'s rules; 

 and as my letter seems to have been ambiguous on this point, I may 

 say it was imder that rule of measurement and scale of time allow- 

 ance that I proposed the matcn should be sailed. In 188iJ I suggested ' 

 that in calculating time allowance the mean of t he rules in use by the 

 challenging and chaUenged clubs should be taken, but the committee 

 did not then see their way to agree, and I have no wish to reopen the 

 question. In respect of the final clause of your letter, I stipulated 

 tnat "should I win the Cup, the club obtaining the custody of it 

 should hold it, open to a challenge on the same conditions as those 

 under which I challenged." 'To this I adhere, as being only in 

 accordance with my own idea of fair play, and no yacht club w ould 

 Ijlace itself in the posititon of having the power to expect, or of 

 appearmg to expect, as the party challenged, terms different to 

 those under which it chaUenged. But, feeling that your committee, 

 with, I am sure, equal faith, believe in the absolute fairness of the 

 conditions laid do(vn in the deed of 1887, 1 had no intention of barring 

 a challenge under these conditions. To make these perfectly clear I 

 am quite willing to substitute for my former stipulations, "It is to be 

 understood and agreed that should I win the Cup, the club obtaming 

 the custody of it should hold it subject to a challenge on precisely 

 similar terms to those under which I challenged, provided, always, 

 that the club shall not refuse a challenge in accordance with the con- 

 ditions laid down in the deed of 1887, and is at liberty to make any 

 arrangement mutually agreed upon, as provided for in. the deeds of 

 1857, 1883 and 1887." 



I trust that no difference now exists between us, and on your 

 cabhng me that a challenge on the terms of my former letter, as 

 herem modified, will be accepted, I shall at once endeavor to arrange 

 for a formal challenge being sent through a qualified yacht club. J. 

 remain, yours faithfully, Dunraven. 



The following reply was sent by cable; 



"New York, Nov. SI.— Lord Dunraven, 27 Norfolk st., London; 

 Committee will recommend the club to accept a formal challenge 

 based on your letter of the Tth N ovember if reference to former 

 deeds is omitted. Paine. ' 



OnNov. aG, at 12:40 P. M., the following cable was received and 

 posted in the club house : 



'■Adark, Nov. 26 — General Paine, New York Yacht Club, 67 Madi- 

 son ave.. New York City: Secretary of Squadron wires me challenge 

 mailed Oddie to-day. Reference to the former deed is omitted. 



■'A Cass, Sec. America Cup Committee." 



Mr. Canaeld added at the bottom: "The above is not signed, but is 

 undoubtedly from Lord Dunraven." 



The greater part of Lord Dunraven's letter relates to minor details 

 which are of no importance until the vital question has been settled. 

 The main point in the letter lies in the final clause but one, which 

 amounts to nothing less practically than the abrogation of the new 

 deed of gift. 



If the terms thus proposed by Lord Dunraven should be carried 

 out by all parties in any future contests for the Cup, the dimension 

 clause would be a dead letter, and other provisions of the new deed 

 would share the same fate. While the committee in its reply accepts 

 the substance of Lord Dunraven's terms, it still keeps up a show of 

 maintaining the new deed by demanding that all allusions to the true 

 deed as that of 1882 be withdrawn. 



If the last telegram is genuine, it would appear that the Royal 

 Yacht Squadron had at last withdrawn its objections and consented 

 to challenge. 



Even though a race should i-esult, the position is a most tmsatis- 

 factory one. There have been t.o many iodeflnite statements 

 throughout the whole negotiations that it is almost impossible that 

 a series of matches can be arranged and sailed, and tne cup won 

 again or lost, without serious misunderstanding, and in the event of 

 any dispute in the future, no man can say what conditions really 

 govern the matter. While in common with all yachtsmen, we are 

 anxious for a resumption of international racing; we are firm in the 

 belief that a patched agreement like the present one can only result 

 in furthei' quari-els and ill-feeling betvreen the two nations. 



The Meld of Nov. 26 says that according to telegrams the New 

 York Yacht Club sends to English papers. Lord Dunraven is trying 

 to negotiate a new deed and the club is trying to circumvent him. 

 This is not edifying, but it represents the situation. The New 

 York Yacht Club is making certain concessions as to what it will 

 accept as a challenging yacht m order to obtain a match during the 

 time of the Chicago Coliunbian Exhibition. The America's Cup 



