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FOREST AND STREAM. 



[Dec. 15, 189S. 



Length on Iioad Water Line— 85 feet. 



The Custom House measurement will follow as soon as the vessel 

 can be measured for registration. 



I shall be much obliged if you will cable me the receiot of this chal- 

 lenge anri let me have a reply by 1 etter as soon as the matter h^js 

 been laid before the committee. I have ehe honor to be. dear sir, 

 your obedient servant, Eichard Grant, 



Secretary Royal Yacht Squadron. 

 To J. V. S. Oddie, Esq., Secretary New York Yacht Club. 

 • The report of tbe committee continues: 



'•In regard to this challenge your committee would report as 

 follows: 



•Tour committee had agreed to recommend for acceptance a 

 challenge based on Lord Dunraven letter of Nov. in which he 

 writes: 'I trust * * * that a challenge on the terms of my 

 former letter, as herein modified, will be accepted." 



"In the former letter here alluded to, that of Sept. 16 to Mr. Oddie, 

 Lord Dunraven writes: '1 will sail a series of matches under the 

 rules of the new deed of gift, with the following exception and 

 addition:' 



"This clause your committee considers as the basis of the whole 

 negotiation. 



'•The lerms of this letter to Mr. Oddie had been declared by the 

 New York Y. 0. as acceptable with certain exseptions which do not 

 affect the force of the clause above quoted. The chaMenge contains 

 no reference or equivalent to this clause, but purporting to recapitu- 

 late the stipulations required and agreed to. fails to characterize 

 them as exceptions or additions at all and so does not even imply 

 thts existence of other and very important conditions of the deed, 

 such, for instance, as the covenants and agreements required on the 

 part of the winner of the America's Cup under the rules of the new 

 deed of gift. Further, the challenge in no way sanctions the use of 

 the preceding correspondence for tbe purpose of its interpreration. 



"Your committee feared that this omission from the chalipnge of 

 the explicit statement contained in Lord Dunraven 's letter might in- 

 volve a risk of some future misunderstanding, and considered that 

 the most expeditious method of preve- ting any possible misunder- 

 standmg would be to obtain authority from Lord Dunraven to use his 

 letters on which the challenge was to be based as exolanatory of the 

 challenge itself. 



"As the committee feared that the limited time would prevent the 

 obtaining of an authorization by the squadron to so use Lord Dun- 

 raven's letters, the following cable was consequently sent: 



'New York, Dec. 6, 1893. 

 'Lord Dunraven, 27 Norfolk street. London: 



'Challenge, if explained by your letters, satisfactory. Do you 

 agree' Club meeting Tuesday. Paine.' 



"To this the following reply was received: 



'AD.'.nE, Dec. 7, 1893. 



'Paine, Neiv YorTc Yacht Club, New York: 



'Copy following ''ablegram received: Challenge, if explained bv 

 your letters, satisfactory. Do you agree to club meeting Tuesday'? 

 Message ends I don't understand. Challenge is in accordance with 

 our cablegram of 23d. Dunraven.' 



"As it appeared from this that the committee's cable had been 

 rendered obscure by an error in transmission, the following cable was 

 sent on Dec. 7: 



'Lord Dunraven, Norfolk street, London: 



'Will you authorize us to use ycur letters Sept. 16 and Nov. 7 as ex- 

 plaining challenge? Paine.' 



" On December 9 the following cable was received : 



' London, Dec. 9, lfi92. 

 ' General Paine, New York Y. C. Club, New York : 



' Yes, eertauily. Cable definitely London. ' Dunhaven.' 



"As above requested to reply definitely, the committee sent the 

 following cable : 



' New York, Dec. 10, 18.92. 

 ' To Lord Dunraven, Norfolk street, Lo7idon : 



' Your September letter proposes match according rules new deed 

 with modifications. Challenge states these, but not as exceotions or 

 additions to new deed. Your cablegram " Y&s. certainly " is satis- 

 factory. • 'Paine ' 



" On December 13 the following cable was received : 

 „ „ ^ , "London, Dec. 1*2, 1892. 



■ To Paine, Yacht Club, N. Y.: 



'Have no authority from squadron relying on yours November 22 

 Believing everything finally settled, challenge forwarded terms' 

 Your requested alteration impossible. I cannot further delay. 

 Please cable definite acceptance or refusal. ' Dunbaven ' 



" At half past twelve a. m , December 13, the following cable was 

 sent by the compjittee : 



. >„ , , ' New York, Dec. 13. 1892. 



' To Lord Dunraven, Norfolk street, London : 



Committee meeting and club meeting to-day. Will cable result 

 immediately. 'Paine'" 



The report, which was signed by Charles J. Paine, James D. Smith 

 Latham A. Fish, Archibald Rogers and A. Cass Caufleld, ended as 

 follows: 



tion-° committee would offer the following resolu- 



'Resolvcd. That this club accept the challenge of the Royal Yacht 

 Squadron, in the name of the Earl of Dunraven, for the America's 

 Cup, the match to begin ten months from Dec. 5, 1893, the date of the 

 receipt of the said chillenge by the New York Y. C, but the date of 

 the match to be subject to alterations for mutual convenience and bv 

 mutual consent'." 



The resolution was put to a vote and carried unanimously, after 

 which the meeting adjourned, the result being immediately cabled to 

 Lord Dunraven and Secretary Grant, of the R. Y S. 



To Interested Riflemen. 



Singe the article of "How Rifle Shooting Can be Revived" was 

 published la the Forest and Stream there has been under con- 

 sideration the adyisability of holding a tournament throughout 

 Hndson coiiaty. N. J., to ascertain who compose a team of two 

 men which cm be called the best in the county 



On Dec. 8 Air. Bird, of the Hudson Rifle Club, issued a call to 

 all the cluu- lu the county to see if such a scheme could be prop- 

 view issuing same had more than one object in 



Flr-st— By having such a tournament iu which all: clubs conld 

 enter several teams or as many as they wish, it would bring the 

 members of the several organizations in close proximity wii^ione 

 another and increase the Interpst of rifle shooting to such an ex- 

 tent that more team and individual matches would be heard of 



Ihe conditions of the tournament, briefly stating them, would 

 be that each man Are 50 shots at each match and It the exiiira- 

 i^^J'-^^l^^'^u^^^ money derived from entrance fees 

 wh^l n^^'^'^'''^ bet;veen the three best teams of the county 

 dubs composed of only resident members of the several 



hS,^AT^^I^^^^^^^ tournament shall come to an end let the 

 wlio have made the highest scores then be banded t^- 

 ?nr^nL'''"^^®n°°'^°*!*''S Hudson county team, and be ready 

 ?n«Hpn K*''''^®''^®^"'/*^-/^'??^ surrounding counties who might 

 institute the same order of things, and in this way all the rifle- 

 men would get warmed up to the highest pitch, and the spoH 

 Ttead of'lvinTdo^^^Si"^ some interest to lovers of the Bportfin- 

 Thlrdlv^ r7«1?r?^a°.''i^K* ^?iw^ does during the winter reason, 

 discuss rar tbi /i^lHn^^'^'", i^^^ this into consideration and 

 fln^Zt fi?,. 1 ^<.^^^*'^^"°^^' t^ese county tournaments 



will hfvP «Wv t!?i,?t^l°^^'^^5*''"' ^^^l J^'i'l at .see that they 

 will dave plenty to keep them busy and interested, but if they let 



'>^n?^lVLZo\fJ^^nr^'''°' '"^"^"^ a damper on the 



i^^^yer heard from again! Wherrare all the 

 t^'eTr'^^'ewsf """"""^ ^""^ '^'^^ ''^ '^^^ °°<^ respond'and give 

 Start the ball rolling and see if some one cannot offer somA 



?8 tlkln^f be«°r'?'r ^''f' ^^^erest of the sTr? 



ahnn^J^ "^^^'^ lu the Tigh c spi Tit Icanuotsee but that "rifle 

 shooting can be revived" to its fullest extent. The Eagle 

 rUERSEY.ClTT, N. J.,3Dec. 10. 



World's Fair Rifle Tournament. 



E. Hough. 



Jerseymen with Military Rifles* 



The weekly practice of the First Brigade (N. G. N. J.) R'fle 

 Rifle Association drew an even quartette of shooters to the 

 Newark Shooting Park on Dec. 10. There was no wind to worry 

 the shooters, and as a result, the day being damp and close, the 

 smoke settled in front of tbe firing point so thickly as to make 

 sighting diflinult. The light was poor enough without the addi- 

 tional handicap. Despite the drawbacks the enthusiasts managed, 

 by waiting at times to let the smoke clear, to pull out some fair 

 scores, which are here shown: 



Cant Howard 5 54444534 4-43 



3 3 4 3 44434 3-35 

 434343433 4-3-5 



SergtWilhelm 4 4 4 44 4 5 45 5-43 



444434545 4-41 

 Fifty-Shot Match. 



Major Wallace 4 44445445 3-41 



444554344 4-41 

 5 4 3 5 4 5 4 5 4 4-43 

 444444545 4-42 



4 5 3444444 4-40-207 

 Private Townsend 5 4 5 4 4 5 4 4 4 5-44 



455454444 4-43 



5 44444454 5-43 

 5 44444444 4-41 

 544435344 5-41—212 



Y'RATILlM. 



Newark Rifle Matters. 



Mkmbers of the Our Own, Excelsior and Puritan Rifle Clubs 

 are endeavoring to arouse some enihusiasm among Newark gal- 

 lery riflemen by a Peril's of inter-club shoots to run ihrough the 

 winter. It is expected that the Essex Amateurs, Howards and 

 Essex lidians will also join in the movement. Gallery shooting 

 is in a state of coma just now, and some energetic work will have 

 to be done to revive the old interest. A few years ago Newark 

 could boast of twenty-two ga'lery rifle clu'os, with an aggregate 

 membf rahip of close to 30O. but this season politics seems t'^ have 

 put the pastime on the shelf, It is not likely to die, however, as a 



Port Chester Rifle Club. 



Port Chester, Dec. JO.- Two hundred yards, offhand, standard 

 American target: 



J Smith 10 3 10 8 6 



VHorn h fi 10 4 9 



REudd 4 4 9 6 9 



■I Hess . 0 8 7 8 7 



E Dunham 6 9 7 7 7 



R McNeil, Jr u 8 T 3 5 



FA Bachman 2 5 4 3 ft 



McQuilken . lO 3 3 5 4 



„ . „ Three Shot Sweepstake Mntch. 



FA Bachman 8 9 6-23 R McNeil, Jr 6 



yHorn 8 5 9-23 .THess.... 6 



J Smith 4 10 5—19 R Rudd 5 



Mr. Rudd used a 2.5-20 Maynard rifle. 



R. McNeil, Jr , Secretary. 



9 8 5 8-74 



7 8 6 7-71 



8 7 4 9-fi3 

 4 10 6 5-63 

 4 6 0 5—63 

 4 8 9 6-63 



5 6-51 



4 4-43 



4 9-19 



8 5-19 



4 9-18 



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Denver Rifle Club's New Year. 



The Denver Rifle Club have appointed thn following gentlemen 

 a comtnittee to arrange for the annual shoot on New Year's Dav: 

 Guy Chamberlain, chairman; J. H. Dean, G. C. Schoyen. H. R 

 Gilbert. O. E^damson, A. W. Peterson, John P. Lower, William 

 Maguire, G. W. Biethmann and W. Y. Sedam. The ahootiog will 

 be at the standard American target, 200 yards offhand. Rifles 

 and cartridges will be furnished to shooters if desired. 



Teseebt. 



Empire Rifle Club. 



Thr second annual prize shoot of the Empire Rifle Club of New 

 York, H. Z'ittler. president, will be held at their headquarters, 13 

 St, Marks place, between Second and Third avenues, Dec. 18. 19 

 and 20. Shooting to commence: Sunday. 2 P. M tol3M:MoTi- 

 SfJ' LP- ^2PJ^ '< Tuesday. 7 P. M. to 10 P. M. Prizes, $35. .$30, 

 SI 5. $10, $8, $6, $5, S4. .S3. IS-a $1, $1; 3.5-ring target, op^ to all 

 comers, any .32jal. rifle. Tickets, three shots for fifty cents, two 

 best tickets to count. Re-entries uulimitfd. All ties divided. 



J . Pontes. G. O. Nisja. ,T. Martin 



C.A. Hinkle. T. Ford. E. A. Pierce. H. S. Burley. 



GARDEN CITY RIFLE CLUB OF CHICAGO. 



number of -old-time enthuBiBSts are assisting in the efi'ort to re- 

 vive it. 



The First Brigade (N. G. N. J.) Rifle Association will hold a 

 shoot on the aoOyris. ranges at the Newark Shooting Park on New 

 dear's Day (Jan. 2). beginning at 11 o'clock. All the practice is 

 done with Springfield rifles, the carbine 55gr. amfiiunition being 

 used. Membership in this association is open to any officer or 

 enlisted man m the First Brigade. Tbe association will shoot 

 every .'^atu^day afternoon during the winter. Y'Ratjxtm. 



Peekskill Rifles. 



Pebksioll, N. Y.. Dec. 7.— We have a rifle club of about 35 

 members m this place. The following scores were made at our 

 regular shoof to-day: 200yds. off-hand. Standard American 

 target. The day was overcast and the shooting was nothing to 

 brag of, there being but a few out; 



Well known shooting lules to govern. Shooting committee, Oha«. 

 Zettler, Jr., chairman; B. Zahn, secretary; Wm. Rosenbaum, 

 shooting master; Wm. Miller. Arch. Rosenstrauss. 



Jas L Gregory. 



HPDain 3 



Ohas Hyatt 



S I Pugsley 



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Hudson Rifle Club. 



Hudson Rifle Club, shot on Hudson Rifle Club range, Mon- 

 day, Dec. 13; distance 26yd8., possible 250: 

 T T, i,v ^'""s- Team. 



n ^ '25 25 25 25 25 24 24 34 23 23-243 



fe^T J 1 U----1 25 25 25 25 34 24 24 24 23 23-243 



H Mahlenbrock 25 35 25 35 24 24 34 24 24 23-242 



^ Malz 25 25 25 35 24 24 24 24 23 23-242 



Second Team. 



■T A Reynolds 25 25 35 25 25 23 23 23 22 12-238 



M ^u^w^^ 25 25 S5 25 24 24 23 23 22 22 -338 



'^Ir 25 25 25 25 24 24 23 23 22 22^2^ 



25 35 24 2-1 24 24 23 33 23 33-23S 



*■ =mith 2a 25 34 24 2 t 23 23 23 23 33-237 



,^ 3 Third Team. 



V ^taderman 26 35 34 34 24 24 23 23 23 20-234 



i 25 24 24 24 33 33 33 33 22 31-2^2 



b Middleton 25 35 24 -'4 ^4 -'B fi •>]— -^qi 



••, First Team 24-2i,S: Second Team, 237^7 Tui?dTeam, 

 2321.8. Total average. 237"„. The Hud.=on Kifle Ciuh is patiently 

 waning tor a reply from the Greenville R. C. The Eagle 



New York Revolver Scores. 



scores were made by the members of the New 

 York Revolver and Pislol Club at their last regular weekly pra^ 

 nee shoot, held on the 10th inat. at their gluerv, 12 St Mark^^ 

 U^r^l M°iw' '^'i standard American tnrlet, d^kance afyds-! 

 ^-cal. S. & W. revolver: G. E. Jantzer 86, B. W. Balther 85 O B 

 Bishop 84, H. OehlSO, F. G. Allen 73, F. Hecking (.3S-caU 69 ' 



F. Hecking, Sec'y. 



Zettler Rifle Club. 



ri^hT„}i?'*f'-'^'^''-"C"?'^?^Kw^'*''^y^^°o*^ of the Zettler Rifle 

 Dec fi°w'fti? hffli ^^-^'^ heaaquarter=, 219 Bowery, on Tue.sdav! 

 Dec. 6. with the following results, 10 shots uer man possible ^5(i 

 points: M. Dorrler 249, M. H. Engel 246, H. Holges "46 ^ Ross 946 

 Zattler 245. R. Busse 244. L Schmttt 244 O g' 

 Ze«l6r 244, F. Schmitt 243. Strate 241, Geo. PlaSted 241 Geo 

 Krauss 340, J. Beltramlne 333, F. Hecking 330 -t^wst^a ^i, o-eo. 



All ties divided unless otherwise reported 

 FIXTURES. 



If you want your shoot to be announced here 

 send in notice like the following: 



Dec. 17.— Elliott vs. Fulford, at Kansas City, Mo.; 19, at Indian- 

 apolis, Ind.; 22, at Pittsburgh, Pa.; 24, at Williamsport, Pa,; 26, at 

 flarrisburg. Pa. 



Dec. 19 — Live bird and target tournament, Hempstead, Texas. 



Dec. 32-24,— Kansas City (Mo.) tournament, live birds and targets. 



Dec. 24 —Williamsport (Pa.) Rifle and Gun Club, all day tourna- 

 ment at live birds. 



Dec. 26.— Hartner's all-day target tournament, Orangeville, 

 Baltimore county, Md. 



Dec. 27-30,- Watson's live bird target tournament, Watson's 

 Park, Btunside. 111. 



Dec. 28.— Tournament at live birds, on Erh's grounds, Newark, 

 N. J. 



Dec. 28-29.- Jacksonville (Pla.) Gun Club's fifth annual tourna- 

 ment; 8500 guaranteed purses; $300 in money and merchandise 

 prizes added. Professional experts barred. Bryan Taliaferro, 

 Sec'y. 



1893. 



Jan. 2.— Hartner's all-day target tournament, Oradgevilie, Bal- 

 timore county, Md. 



Jan. 2.— Towanda (Pa.) Gun Club's all-day tournament. 



Jan. 2 — South Side Gun Club's "annual,"' Newark, K. J. 



Jan. lT-18.— Hamilton (Ont.) Gun Club tournament, live birds 

 and targets. 



Jan. 10-11.— Interstate Manufacturers' and Dealers' Associa- 

 tion's Grand American Haudicip, live bird tournament. New 

 Jersey (grounds to be named); Hurlingham rules, Monaco 

 boundary. 



May 17-18 —West Newburgh Gu» Club spring tournament, at 

 Newbureh, N, Y. 



May 33-25.— Knox ville Gun Club tournament, $1,000 added to 

 purses. Also valuable merchandise prizes. 



June 12-16.— New York State Sportsman's Association tourna- 

 ment, at Rofhester. H. M. Stewart, Cor. Sec'y, 413 Ellwanger & 

 Barry huildins', Rochester, N. Y. 



Oct. 19-30.— West Newburgh Gun Club fall tournament, at New- 

 burgh, N. Y. 



Fountain Gun Club. 



Eleven members of the Fountain Gun Club were present at 

 the last shoot of the year at Woodlawn Park, L. I., on Wednes- 

 day, Dec. 17. C. W. Wingert was the winner in Class A. R. 

 Phister gave him a close race f or the hrst priza and the result 

 was a tie and they take the two prizes in their class. J. E. Lake 

 won the Class B prize. The scores: 



Class A. ■ 'V 



C Wingert 1111211111-10 DrVanOrd .', .2301221002- 7 



R Phister 1111301111— 9 M Lindslev •. .3111311020- 8 



Dr Shields 3m031111- 9 E H Garrison 2020031UO- 6 



CIhss B. 



J E Lake 1311211101-10 Wanda 21220(|1201— 7 



HWBIattmacher.lSUllllll— 10 W Schmadeke . . . .1220122210-8 

 W Laird l02-333mi— 10 



