Mabch 9, 1893.] 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



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"Big Tournament in Ontario. 



St. Thomas, Ont., Feb. 27. — The first annual tournament of the 

 Carleton Gun Chib was held on their gi-ound just outside the city 

 hmits on Feb. 22, 23 and 24. The attendance was good, several shoot- 

 ers from a distance taking part in the various events. The weather 

 was fine on the first and third days, but on the second a snow storm 

 raged all day. The traps and birds were those of the U. S. Pigeon Co., 

 but a few of the Hamilton blueroelis were used. Everything passed 

 off without a hitch. That the tournament was a success financially 

 and otherwise was in a ^reat measure due to the efforts of Mr. James 

 Haight, who managed it, and Mr. W. J. Kiefer, who performed the 

 duties of secretaiy. Below please find the scores: 



No. 1, 10 singles, unltnown traps, 75 cts. entrance, $10 guaranteed, 

 four moneys: 



Tucker 1(100001100— :? A Fulton IIIOOOOIIO— 5 



HScane 1110010111— 7 North 0011110011— 6 



Texas 0101011000— 4 Axford 1111010111— 8 



D Fletcher., 0110100111— 6 ANTieeler 0111110011— 7 



Elm 11 0001 01 OO— 4 Brown 1011010110— 6 



Donley 1 101001011— 0 Thompson 0111001101— 6 



Emshe 0011010011— 5 .Jay Faatz 0000001001— 8 



Henderson OOOOOIOOOO— 1 Tjto .1111111111—10 



Pennington.......,., 1010100001— 4 Jessop 1111111011— 0 



Langan 0011001010— 4 Welter 0001111111— 7 



Hepburn 0111100111— 7 Bake 1101001111— 7 



No. 2. 10 singles, unknown traps, $15 guaranteed, four moneys, 

 entrance S1.50: 



Tyro 1111011111— 9 Hendei-son 0100000000-1 



Fietcher 1100100010— 4 Wheeler 1001111111—8 



Scane 1111111111—10 North 1000110011—5 



Texas 1000001101— 4 Donley 1110111110—8 



Hepburn 0111110010— 6 Bake 0111011000—5 



Axford 0001100011— 4 McColl 1110101110—7 



Elm 101111001 









Jaj' Faatz 







.0101000101-4 



A Fulton 1110111111— 9 Bmslie 0001110101—5 



Langan lOOlllOOOl— 5 



iNo. S, 15 singles, rapid firing, ^25 guaranteed, divided in five$5 

 purse.<j, entrance feS: 



Donley 111011000110110- 9 Jones 010001000101000— 4 



Perry... 01 0000001 100110— 5 Peniungton OlOOOlOlOOOOOOO— 3 



A Mahler 11111 1001011 100— 10 E Mahler 01001101111 1001— 9 



Elm 110100011010001— 7 Thomiison linOlllOlllllO— 12 



Wheeler 101111111111111— 14 A Fulton 111111011011011—12 



Henderson 000100010010100— 4 Scane 011101011010101— 9 



Axford 100001111001101— 8 Tyro lllllinillllll-15 



Texas.. 011101011001101- 9 Emslie 011111010010011- 9 



C McColl 000010010010111- 6 .Tessop ...liniOllOllllll— 13 



Fletcher 111111010111111—13 Hepbm-n lOOllinilllllO- 12 



No. 4, 10 singles, rapid fuing, $25 guaranteed, four moneys, en- 

 trance $2: 



Fletcher 1111111111—10 Donley 1111110111— 9 



►Scane 0011101101— 6 Emslie 1110001001— 5 



Wheeler 

 Tyro 



.1111111111-10 Hepburn 1110111101— 8 



..1101111111—9 AMahler 0110011110—6 



Bi-own 0110110101— 6 Jessop lllOlOllll— 8 



E Mahler 1111111101— 9 G Fulton 1111100110— 7 



TJie Second Day. 



Extra sweep, 10 singles, unknown traps, $1 entrance, four moneys: 

 WTieeler (!, D. Leitch 5, Lang 5, Catton 7, Browii 5, Hepburn 0, Tyro 7. 



No. 5, 10 singles, rapid firing, $15 guaranteed, four moneys, ( n- 

 tranee $1.50: 



Scane 1111110101—8 A Mahler 1010001001—4 



E Mahler ,0100010000—3 Wheeler 1110111011-8 



Lang 1101110110—7 Fletcher 10101 10011—6 



Leitch 01 11 100111—7 Thompson 1 11 110111 1—9 



CromvveU 01100KillO~5 Texas 0101001011—5 



Smith 0100100000—3 Jessop 1011110010—0 



North 1010110100—5 Brown 0100110001—4 



Cattuu 1111101001—7 Evans 1111011 1 1 1—9 



Tyro 110111X11 11— 7 Hepbm-n 1101010111—7 



G Fulton 1010011101—6 A Fulton 1111111011—9 



No. 6, 15 singles, rapid-firing, £25 guai'anteed, 4 moneys, entrance $2: 



Scane 1 11111101101111— 13 Williams 111010010000011— 7 



Evans 111111110111101—13 AFulton 111011111101011—11 



Lang 100000010110001— 5 Wheeler 111110101100111—11 



Tyro 111101011111111—13 E Mahler 000100101000001—4 



Fletcher 111111101111011—13 Porter llllOOOlOOiOOOl— 7 



G Fulton 111111110111111—14 Jessop 100111100110110- 9 



AMahler 101011 lOOOOOOll— 7 Gilroy 010110101011111—10 



Leitch 111111111111111—15 Thompson 110111111110110—12 



North 110100101101011— 9 Arthurs 110011001000011— 7 



Catton 101110111000111—10 



No. 7, 9 singles and 3 fiairs, unknown traps, $25 guaranteed, 5 

 moneys, entrance $2; 



Leitch.. 011011111 110101—11 Thompson. .111111011 1110 11-13 



Evans 111010111 111110—12 Wheeler.... 111100111 10 10 11—11 



Scane OllllOOII 10 0111—10 Fletcher. .. .111011101 10 1111—12 



Tyro 011111111 01 10 00—10 Jessop 111010011 00 01 10— 8 



Gih-oy 100000110 00 10 00— 4 Brown lllllllOl 10 11 00—1! 



G Fulton.... 111101101 10 00 10- 9 Catton 110101111 10 10 00— 9 



A Mahler.... 001001010 00 00 00— 4 Williams. .. .00011 1001 10 10 10— 7 



E Mahler... .001110010 10 10 00— 6 Lang 000101110 11 11 11—10 



No. 8, 10 singles, known traps and u'nlaiown angles, S;S5 guaranteed, 

 five $5 prizes, entrance $2: 



Scane 1101110100—6 Wheeler 0111101110—7 



Tyro , 0111111111-9 Hepburn 1011001010—5 



A Fulton 0001111101—6 Jessop 1101011100—6 



Jay Faatz 010CK)11110— 5 Texas 0000111110—5 



Evans 0110111111—8 Havens 1101001001—5 



Bake .......0010100110—3 WOliams 1101000010—4 



Emslie 110101 1 100— 6 Ford 1001100000—3 



G Fulton 0110011110—6 Brown 1011011110—7 



Thompson 0011101010-5 Donley 1011101001—6 



GUroy 0001001101—4 A Mahler 1111100001—6 



Feitch 1111101111—9 E Mahler 1010011011—6 



Fletcher .1011011111—8 



No. 9, 15 singles, rapid firing, S35 guaranteed, five moneys, entrance 



f.oO: 

 heeler 101110110110111— H Catton.. . ; lllUlllllllllO— 14 



Tyro 111011101111011—12 G Fulton 100011111001101— 9 



Scane. 111111111111110—14 Jessop llOOOllOMlllll— 9 



Havens 011111110111011—12 Texas 001101110101101— 9 



Emslie 110010111000100— 7 E Mahler lOOOfWlOOOOOlll— 5 



Donley 000111111111111—12 Fletcher 011111111111111—14 



Feitch 0010011 1 1 11 1011 —1 0 Wil liam.s 001 011111100000— 7 



Jay Faatz ii 10001 11 01 0001— 8 Thompson 110101111111111—13 



No. 10, merchandise shoot, 15 singles, J'apid firing, entrance$2. First, 

 haoimerless gun; second. 251bs. Hazard powder ; third, barrel coaloil; 

 fourth, silk hat; fifth, pair gloves: 



Leitzch 001CK31011001011— 7 Stinson 001111111101110—11 



Evans .001001110111101— 9 6 Fulton 111110111111010—12 



Tyro 111101101111111—13 Wheeler OliOOlllOlOOIOl— 8 



Scane 111111111011011—13 A Mahler 110110010101010- 8 



E Mahler 111010010010111— 9 Jessop lllllllOlOOlOll— 11 



Thonmson 101111110111111—13 Donley lOOOluOOllOOOOl— 5 



Fletcher 101001111101011—10 Bake lOlOOlOlOllOlll— 9 



Gilroy OOlOOOOOOIOOOII— 4 Brown 101101100111101—10 



Emslie lOlOOllOlHOlOO— 8 Porter OOOIOdOlOOlOOIO— 4 



Havens 101101111111111—13 North 10O111O1101O110— 9 



Thompson, Havens, Tyro, Scane and G. Fulton take the prizes as 

 named. 



Extra sweep, 10 singles, rapid firing, $1 entrance, four money: Tyro 

 7, Donley 9, Wheeler 5, Rymph 6, Grant 7, Emelie 6, Havens 7, Scane 8, 

 McColl 6, Fletcher 9, G. Fulton 6, A. Mahler 4. 



TJie Third Bay. 



No. 11, 10 singles, rapid firing, .*1 .s\vetp, 4 moneys: Scane 8, 

 Tyro 8, Havens 7, Wheeler 7, Grant Fonl S, Lang 6, Leitch 9. 



No. 12, 15 smgles, rapid firmg, 525 yuai-anteed, %2 cntrauce: Leitch 

 14, Scane i:i Tyro 13, Laug n, Dyer 7, Grant 5, Ford 12, Tom 11, 

 Thompson 10, Catton 18, FleTelier 16, McColl 0, Havens 12, Jones 7. 



No. 13, 15 shigles, rapid firing, §-35 guaranteed, divided So purses, 

 $2 entrance; Leitch 15, Tyro Catlou 11, Fletcher 11, Wheeler II, 

 Dyer 13, Johnson s. Jones 14. Texas 8, Browu 6. aieCfll S, Thompson 10. 



No. 14, 15 singles, rapid firing. S25 guaranteed, 4 moneys, %'i entrance: 

 Scane 13, Tvro 15, Leitch 13, Jones 12, Tom 5, Fletcher 13, Dyer 10, 

 Catton 12, Brown 10, Thomp^^ou 11. 



No. 1.5, §1.50 sweep, 10 singles, i-apid firing, 3 moneys: Jones 6, 

 Tyro 9, Tom 6, Scane 7, Catton 10, Fletcher 8. 



No. 16, 15 shigles, rapid firing, S36 guaranteed, entrance f3: 



Scane 14 Thompson M I'ver 13 



Leitch 15 Johnson 10 Wheeler ,, .15 



Catton 14 Cap 10 Stanton 9 



Tyi-o 15 Jones , ..11 



Donley 10 Fletcher 13 



Extra sweep, 10 singles, rapid-firing, 4 moneys, entrance 81 : Donley 

 4, Tyro 10, Jones 8, Tom w., Texas 5, Fletcher 8, Dyer 6, Cap 3, John- 

 son?. 



Extra sweep, 10 singles, rapid-flriug, 4 moneys, entrance %l: T5T0 9, 

 Jones 10, Dyer 4, Texas 4, Donley 7, Johnson 8, Wheeler 6, Honsinger 

 2, Fletcher w. 



Extra sweep, 10 single.s, rapid-firing, 5 moneys, entrance $1: W. 

 cots 6, Golding 8, Donley 3, Dyer 6, Texas 4, Tyro 7, C, MoCall 4, 



Langan 5, .Tones 7, Johnson 8, StantOh: 6, Fulford 5, Lewis 0, J. Scott 7, 

 G. NcCall 4. 



Extra sweep, 10 singles, rapid-firing, 4 moneys, entrance $V. Donley 

 8, Welter 6, Boughner 4, Herbertson 8, Brewer 5, AV^allace 1, Bake 0, 

 Rodgers 5, Faatz 2, Graham 6, Thompson 10, Rowland 7. J. W. C. 



Atlantic Rod and Gun Club. 



The semi-monthly shoot of the Atlantic Rod and Gun Club was held 

 at the West End grounds, Coney Island, on Thursday, Feb. 23. Fifteen 

 competed for the two cups given by Judges R. Newton and K. Suther- 

 land, The highest number of wins and best averages to count at the 



close of the season. Frank Goodale, the well-known jockey, won the 

 first, and C. Hubbell took the second added moneys. The scores: 



C Morris 1102221222— 9 T Buckley 2120201011— 7 



P Goodale 2211221121-10 J B Voorhies 1201211100- 7 



H Ki-onika 0010021210— 5 I Hyde 10011121T2- 8 



R J Sutherland 0122212110— 8 G Nostrand 2010011110— 6 



G Morris 211120J211— 9 R Richard 10220000w. 



D Monsees 2012101221— 8 C Mohrman 1212212222-10 



HKnebel, .Jr 0011102022— 6 N Hughes 2001012020— 8 



C Hubbell 1011112211— 9 



New Utrecht Rod and Gun Club. 



On account of the inclement weather of Saturday, Mai-ch 4, the 

 members of the New Utrecht Rod and Gun Club did not turn out very 

 strong at Woodlawn Park. Eight were present and indulged in sweep- 

 stake sliooting. Good scores were made, especially those of the two 

 young rising wing sliots, C, Furguesen, Jr., and W." Lohman, Jr., both 

 about 10 yeai-s of age. Their performance with their featherweight 

 guns and hght charges was remarkable. They shot a race at 20 buds 

 each. The scores: 



Sweepstake shoots, S2 entrance, .3 moneys: 



No. 1. No. 2. No. 3. 



C Furguesen 1111211111—10 11121—5 11111—5 



DA Bennett 2120111212—9 13121—5 



C A Sykes 1210211021— 8 11121—5 11210-4 



G Nostrand 2111111110— 9 21111—5 10211—4 



M Van Brunt 2112111111—10 



GCi-opsey 1111112021— 9 12121—5 



P Hegeman 0101111122— 8 10102—3 



W Lohman, Sr 2210111110— 8 20221-4 02000—1 



Match, boys 10 years old, 20 birds, 26yds. rise: 

 Lohman,.Ir 111211 10210001200122— 14 Furgu'n, Jr2022101C020111211110— 14 



C. Furguesen lias recovered from his recent siclcness and is now get- 

 ting into'his old form, kiUing 56 out of 60 shot at during the day. 



The Crescent Gun Club. 



OwiNW to the great exodus of Kings county sportsmen to Washing- 

 ton the attendance of Thurday, March 2, at Dexter Park of the mem- 

 bers of the Ci'escent Gun Club was greatly diramished. Only nine 

 were present to compete for the annual prizes, the best averages to 

 count at the close of the season. The birds were very fast, and con- 

 sidering the snow-covered ground the scores made were good. The 

 scores of shoot follow: 



Club shoot. , Sweepstakes. , 



EHMoorey 1220010—4 02002—2 202—3 20 



GWCoulston 1002122—5 21010—3 022—2 122 



JVagt 1001021^ 00210—2 221—3 2 



G ElTerhorst 2120100—4 22102-^ 202—2 20 



HGrowtage 0120100—3 02011—3 010-1 0 



DrO^Brien 1220100-4 02122—4 200—1 20 



L Hopkins 1200010- 3 20023—3 021—2 110 



J Collier 0201123—5 20211-4 100—1 23 



C Winchester 2210201—5 12001—3 002-1 10 



The ties in the club shoot for the added money for first and second 

 decided in the next sweepstake shoot. Referee and scorer, C. A. 

 Dellar. 



Glenmore Rod and Gun Club. 



The smallest attendance for many months at the Glenmore Rod and 

 Gun Club's meeting was that of Thursday, Feb. 23. This was partty 

 on account of the postponement from the previous day, which was 

 given for W. Mills's benefit. Only six faced the traps to shoot at 7 

 birds. .1. Bookman won the Claus diamond badge after tieing W. 

 Vorb£ich. The scores: 



R Phister, Jr 3121220—6 J Schlieman 2100011—4 



W Levens 0223220—6 J A. StiU 2032222—6 



W Vorbaeh 1122121—7 J Bookman 1212111—7 



Sweepstake shoots, $2 entrance: 



No. 1. No. 2. No. 3. No. 4. 



R Phister, Jr 12021—4 11111—5 



W Levens 01101—3 



W Vorbaeh 12110—4 20011—3 



J Schheman 02013—3 32111—5 11203-4 0012—2 



J Bookman 20220—3 02210—3 



CPfohlmau 12112-5 01218-4 



MEHaydeu 21121-5 .20210-3 11021-4 1121-3 



J A StiU 20002-2 



Erie Gun Club. 



Thbke was a small attendance of the members of the Erie Gun Club 

 at Woodlavra Pai-k on Wednesday, Feb. 33. Only eight competed for 

 the club medals at 7 birds each, the best average to count. C. Plate, 

 H. Dohi-man and Sam Northridge tied with 7 each and divided first 

 money. The scores: 



C Plate 1211211—7 D Lynch 1110311-6 



FGraef 1201211—6 C Luhrsen 3130011—5 



C Detlefsea 1022112-6 B Plate 1000002—2 



H Dohrman 2121121—7 S Northridge 2121111—7 



Comment Needed. 



London, Eng., Feb. 10. — Editor Forest and Stream: In anticipation 

 of a report in all the American papers concerning my match with Mr. 

 Robbins, who claims to have defeated every one in .\merica, including 

 Carver, Brewer, Fulford,Wolstencroft, Budd, etc., at both live pigeons 

 and clays, for what I see of Robbins I am sure he will try to make cap- 

 ital out of having beaten me. So I take this the first opportunity to 

 explain to the shooting world the cause of ray defeat and the subse- 

 quent shabby treatment of Mr. Robbins to me and to show how the 

 match came about. 



I brought over to Loudon Mr, A. Preuss, of Berlm, Germany, who, I 

 claim, is one of the finest clay-pigeon shots in the world; and not being 

 able to get any match on for hmi we decided, prior to Mr. Preuss re- 

 turning home, to give a shoot here for a few friends, to which the 

 press were invited. At the moment of starting Mr, Robbins appeared, 

 and claiming to be tlie editor of the Sportsman and Bicycle News of 

 Chicago and a gi-eat advocate of clay-pigeon shooting, he was invited. 

 It was then he told as of )jis great exploits in .America, of having 

 beaten everybodj'-. He claimed to have killed 105 sparrows sti'aight at 

 2.3yds. rise, 5 traps, use of one barrel only: also having broken 247 clays 

 straight, and having given both Fulford"and Brewer several live birds 

 and a beating, and that Carver was only a fourth-rate shot. 



Naturally we fought rather shy of such a champion, but as we are 

 not in the habit of being talked down I persuaded Mr. Preuss to wait 

 a few days, \vhile I got the measure of this man, he having offered to 

 shoot me a match for a smaU trophy. I therefore made a match with 

 him and gave him all his own way, as I ilid not think he could shoot a 

 bit, and I am quite convinced he cannot. The next day I deposited a 

 check for £20 m the hands of Messrs. Moore and Gray, who were to 



have all conti'ol of the match, Robbins having said he would .shoot any 

 man in England for $100; tha.t he had $200 at bis hotel, etc. But as he 

 had seen Mr. Preuss break 91 out of 100 was it likely he would shoot 

 a match with Preuss if I beat him? I therefore decided to let him 

 win my match in order to get the £100 match on for Preuss and claim 

 my right to a return match, under recognized club rides. You see the 

 trick be has played us. Two days after my defeat I chafienged him 

 for a return match, which was accepted. I also chaUenged him for a 

 match with Preuss, according to his public challenge in Land and 

 Water; this was not accepted, but left over for a few days, he being 

 then in Birmingham. This is now twelve days ago, and he won't come 

 to the point; but he has now sent word that he cannot shoot any more 

 as he must sail for America next Wednesday, six da^s hence. Now, I 

 find as I am writing this very letter he is shooting in Birmingham a 

 match with Kynoch's ammunition man. 



Now he must have known this some days ago, therefore why has he 

 not accepted my challenge, and asked me to shoot him in Birmingham, 

 which I would gladly have done. The answer is simisle, he dare not, 

 but will return to America and trade on the reputation of having 

 beaten me. He also said on Wednesday night, at the gun trade meet- 

 ing, that he was quite wfiUng to give some sort of an exhibition shoot, 

 before he left for America. If he can do that why does he evade me, 

 simplj' because he dare not. 



To prove w^hat I. say let any one count the scores as printed in Land 

 and Water and they wiU see he led me up to the 40th round, when I 

 went to the front and led him, to make him shoot up to the 85th 

 round, when I dropped behind and let him win. I now find that he did 

 not deposit one cent with Moore and Gray; they trusted to him on his 

 reputation of being editor of the Sports-inan and Bicycle News; wad 

 when he found we were prepared to put up £100 for Preuss, he then 

 had to leave for America. 



In conclusion aUow me to say, we hope you have not many men in 

 America of the Robbins stamp, if so, pray keep them on that side as 

 we do not want them. 



Can any one tell me what this man Robbins has ever done at the 

 traps, for according to hmi there is no one in the States but himself 

 who can shoot. WiU no one take him up? Surely 64 out of 100 would 

 not take much beating. G. H. Fowlkb. 



[We have referred the above to our Chicago repre,sentative, who in- 

 dorses it back: "No such man in Chicago or America. No Robbins 

 ever shot Carver, Budd or Brewer. Must be Jack Robbins. Boys will 

 die laughing when they see this. Jack Robbins is the poorest shot in 

 Chicago, or probably in the world. — E. Hotou." It is impossible to 

 feel any syrapathy for our English correspondent, who states that he 

 resorted to a trick to make money out of a sharp American, whom 

 he suspected of lying. It was thus a case of "biter bit." The whole 

 thing has a very unpleasant flavor.] 



Interstate Association Announcement. 



Pittsburg, Pa. — Editor Forent and Stream: The Interstate Man- 

 ufacturers' and Dealers' Association is now ready to i-eceive applica- 

 tions from gun clubs who contemplate holding tournaments the 

 coming season and desire our assistance. 



One point I wish to call especial attention to and that is as follows: 

 A great many small towns have flourishing gun clubs which desire to 

 hold one day tournaments, but who are somewhat timid about taking 

 the risk. We are going to take that supposed risk and do all we can 

 to boom trap-shooting for them. No matter how small the population 

 of a town, then- application will be carefully considered, and if possible 

 to include it in our circuit it shall be done. Let me say right here that 

 there is a prospect of the rule "first come, first served" being en- 

 forced, so gun clubs should hurry in their applications to H. A. Pen- 

 rose, Sec'y, New London, Conn,, or to the undersigned, at 123 Diamond 

 Market, Kttsburg, Pa. 



I will manage all shoots, giving my personal attention to them, and 

 wUl be on the grounds several days in advance of each event wii'h all 

 necessai-y paraphernalia,, such as traps, screens, tents, etc., as well as 

 to attend to all details during the progress of the shoot. 



The handicap for target shooting will be the "Novelty Rule," 5 traps 

 in line as in rapid firing system and 8 traps. 35yds., in the field, throw- 

 ing incomers. All traps will be puUed by indicator. The rise for ex- 

 perts will be 18yds., semi-experts 16yds., amateurs 14yds. We shall 

 endeavor to ascertain the average of all shooters who attend our 

 tournaments that they may be properly classified, and I assure you 

 "no favorites will be played" by. Elmer B. Shaker, Manager 



Interstate Manufacturers and Dealers' Association. 



Fulford Will Not Meet Brewer. 



Utica, N. y., March 4. — Editor Forest and Stream: In answer to 

 Mr. Brewer's challenge, will state I will never shoot another pigeon 

 match with him for no consideration whatever. ^ 



Mr. Brewer says I am a. third-rate man. Well, a thu*d-rate man has 

 beat him in five matches and tied in one. 



He acknowledges I am his master when he wants to shoot 30O birds, 

 for if he can beat me so easUy 50 buds would be sufficient, 100 at the 

 most. 



He says there are too many goose eggs and stars in my matches 

 with Work, Thompson and Smith 10 rank m-st class. 



I will admit it is not a very nice looking score on paper, at the same 

 time, aU things considered, I am not ashamed of it, for the birds were 

 the best that could be furnished, and flew like rockets; the traps 

 were fast and the boundary small, and I doubt if the champion wing 

 shot of the world could have done as well. 



While the public in general don't hear much about the men I met at 

 Larchmont, they rank among the best shots in the world. 



Hereafter I shall pay no attention to any communication from John 

 L. Brewer. ' E. D. Fulford. 



Imwer^ to ^amB^and^nh. 



No notice taken of anonymous communications. 



W., Scranton, Pa.— Can you tell me how to get the temperatm-e of 

 the water at bottom of a lake 60ft. deep? Ans. By means of a self- 

 registering thermometer lowered to therequired depth and aUowed to 

 remain there a sufficient length of time for the minimum temperature 

 to be reached. 



B. A. P., Cambridge, Mass.— As I am a reader of the Forest and 

 Stream I would like to ask a question through your jiaper. I am the 

 owner of a pointer, and w^hen she comes to a point should I flush the 

 bu-d myself or let the dog flush it? Ans. You should flush the bii'd 

 yourself whenever possible. Only in woodcock and other shooting, 

 where it is not possible for you to do so yourself is it correct to have 

 the dog flush. 



G. F. W., ChilUcothe, O.— A party of fellows and myself wish to go 

 on a camvjing expedition for a couple of weeks this spring, but do 

 not know where to go. We want a place within a day or two's jour- 

 ney of here on some lake or body of water whei'e hunting and fl-sh- 

 ing is good, and where it is wild. Is there not such a place in Wiscon- 

 sin or Michigan? Ans. Read "Our Outing" in Forest and Stream 

 Dec. 23, 1892. Indian River, Mich., which is there described, would 

 seem a desirable place for you to go. 



C. E. B., McRae, White county, Ark. — WiU you inform me where to 

 send for a wild turkey call? Ans. We know of no wild turkey caU 

 now on the market. Any small hollow cylinder closed at one end, 

 such as a large goose quill or the hollow bone from the wing of the 

 turkey itself will make a fan- call. Place the open end of the hollow 

 to the lips so as not entirely to close the opening, and by a jerky, 

 sucking operation a good imitation of thenoteof Ihe bird maj"- be had. 

 A much better cafi, however, is described by <->ur correspondent "H. 

 L." in Forest and Stream for July 10, 1890, which we can fiu'nish you 

 for ten cents. The illustration, etc., cannot be reproduced here. 



F. W., Orange, N. J.— Will you answer the following questions and 

 settle an argument? Is tlte horseshoe or horsefoot a crab or a fish? 

 Also, is a crab a fish of any desci'iption? I hope you wfll excuse the 

 seeming foolishness, but those interested will not accept Webster's 

 definition, and unanimously agreed to accept Forest and Stream's. I 

 have looked in Webster ancl find the crab does not belougto vertebrate 

 animals and the fish does. With our limited facilities it is easier to ac- 

 cept the decision of a paper which is an atithority in angling and 

 fishing matters. The ground on which Webster's was disputed was 

 that scientists might have changed their opinion since, and that a crab 

 might be a cru.stacean and yet be a fish. .\ns. The crab is not a fish 

 in the same sense in which the mackerel, shad, eel, seup, black bass, 

 pike and salmon are fishes; it is, in fact, one of the arjimals without a 

 backbone. The terra "fish," however, is popularly applied to this as 

 well as other invertebrates. For e.^amplo, oysters, clams, mussels, 

 whelks, scalloxjs, etc., etc., are called shell fi.sh. The cuttles are known 

 as fish. Sponges are in the same category, and so are the medusse 

 uuder the name of jelly-fish. ••Fish" and "fishery" iive terms relating 

 to inhabitants of the waters in general ^\'ithout regard to their place 

 in the animal and vegetable Idngilijui.s. The pm-suit of whales, seals, 

 walrus, sea otter, alligators, turtles, terrapins, cod, haddock, herring, 

 mackerel, corals, holothurians. sponges, Iceland moss is a fishery not- 

 withstanding the heterogeneous relationships of the objects sought 

 for. To revert to the "horseshoe or horsefoot" '— it is no really a 

 crab, and it is not a crustacean. Its nearest afflifities are with the 

 spiders among living animals and with the exinct trilobites. 



