March 33, 1893.] 



FOREST ANt) STREAM. 



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traction won the special for best bitch. It is surpristag how 

 well this bitch keeps her form. A neat little Boston terrier 

 was sho^vn and won. 



BASSETS (Mr. Mortimer, Judge).— Three of these quaint 

 hounds turned out of the four entered, and Solomon's better 

 head and general type, ear, body and bone, though out at el- 

 bow too much, sufficed to beat Bracelet, who is not so long or 

 deep in head, nor so long in body. Third went to Drayman 

 who is coarse and leggy. The Dachshund entries were ab- 

 sent. 



Beagles (Major Taylor, .Judge).— The challenge class pro- 

 duced Emelme, Roy K. and Kacer, Jr., a,nd as the latter can- 

 not hope to win in this company with his weak hind parts 

 typical dog though he is, the struggle lay between the two 

 former. By the way, some of the critics seem to forget that 

 a beagle should be to a great extent a miniature foxhound, 

 and as such and for the purpose for which he is bred, .should 

 not some attention be paid to running gear? One critic 

 lately remarked, Baltimore judging, that Racer, Jr., can 

 beat Roy K. That might be if the dog was not allowed to 

 move and nobody touched him. As it is, in half an hour's 

 run Racer couldn't get out of his own way comparatively 

 Emeline beats Roy in body and front; heads about equal 

 though I like Emeline's expression better. In open dogs 

 Doctor, Hawkeye and Rockland Boy was the order, though 

 were Jim Simmons, c, shown with less flesh, he can beat 

 either in type and build. In bitches Lonely kept her pride 

 of place, but Snow was in her wrong place according to our 

 light.<5 as second, which Fanny Reed is entitled to. Prudence 

 was he, about right. Rockland Kennels again gets the 

 specials with the kennel and Lonely. It is to be hoped that 

 we shall see something new at Elmira this week. 



Fox-Tekeieks (Mr. Mortimer, Juc7,ge).— This judge gen- 

 erally draws a strong lot in this breed, and this show proved 

 no exception, all the principal kennels being represented 

 Blemton Victor II. and Raffle were the challenge dogs and 

 the little one had to give way to the other's better front, 

 stronger jaw, longer skull and better bodv. Grouse II, w^as 

 alone in her division. Five dogs came forward in the open 

 class and Ripon Stormer shone out superior to Warren Tip 

 Top in body, head and loin, Blemton Rasper coming third. 

 The latter loses in bone, but has a better head, ear and 

 front. Beverwyck Rufus, vhc, loses in head, front and foot 

 to the others. Spinster proved the winning bitch. She is 

 well known, is weak in muzzle, and ear not close enough 

 carried. This time the judge put A¥arren Dorothv over 

 Dusky II., and rightly, which we must say "indorses our 

 criticisms of the last week or two." (Forest and Stream 

 does not care to be left, even in this indorsing business.) A 

 lot of well-known bitches came along after, with reserve to 

 Ripon Regiua, vhc. to Lady Rosebery, he. to Maystorm, 

 Miss Domino and Damson, all commented upon lately, ex- 

 cept the latter, whose full, round skull and want of ri'b are 

 his wor.st faults. Blemton Stickler had an easy win in do"- 

 puppies and Blemton Vindex beats Seacroft Myrtle in head" 

 size of ear and body, which is light. Ko^-ice winners fol- 

 loAved other awards principally, Blemton Stickler winning 

 easily. St. Broom had no difficulty in winning in wire- 

 haired dogs, while Sister Pattern's superior head sufficed to 

 explain her placing over Jess Frost. 



Irish Terriers (Mr. Mortimer, Judge).— The challenge 

 class was warm— very— with Jack Briggs, Dunmurry and 

 Candour in the order named. Good dog as Jack Briggs is, 

 he is lucky to beat Dunmurry, who excels him in front, coat 

 and body. Jackanapes had not much difficulty in scoring in 

 open dogs (3) over Paddy Dorian, whose thick head puts him 

 out m good company; he is short of coat, too. Judy proved 

 the winner in bitches, but I like Salem Witch much better in 

 body, though not so good in head. Third went to Little 

 Maid. Little Maid, a frequent winner, is out-classed here 



Black and Tan Terriers (Mr. Mortimer, Judfye).— Four 

 well known animals came forward in challenge class, and 

 Broomfield Sultan rightly won. In Prince Regent's present 

 shape and following type Queen III., reserve, should have 

 got the second. Salisbury was rightly vhc. ; he is getting out 

 of it now. Gypsey Girl, first, was the only open class eutrv 

 present. 



The Welsh terriers Dewr and Mephisto Dick represented 

 the "Ponty Pridds" as usual. 



Bedlington Terriers (Mr. Mortimer, Judqe).—Only two 

 entries, Qui Vive in challenge class and Mignonette in the 

 open division; sheissnipy, neither are really good; don't seem 

 to have the punishing heads of the old type, such as Miner. 

 Shark, Tear'em, etc. 



Skye Terriers (3Ir. Mortimer, Judge).— With a separate 

 class for each sex Barnaby Rudge's position could not be as- 

 sailed by any one as he was alone. In bitches Endcliffe Mag- 

 gie and Islay occupied their Baltimore relations. 



Scotch Terriers {Mr. Mortimer. Judge).— That great lit- 

 tle dog Tiree was again placed over Rhudam an for reasons, 

 previously stated, while the modest Ashly Plug loses to both 

 in many essential points but is a most persistent little chap 

 popping up at evevy show only to be "plugged" again Ivil- 

 roy and Kilcree were absent and so was Culblean and Wankie 

 Diana from the same kennel. In Yorkshires Young Ted 

 again took a ribbon in dogs, being alone, and Nell, a much 

 inferior one, also took a ribbon in her class; she is light in 

 tan and blue. 



Pugs (Mr. Mortimer, Judge).— These classes were well 

 filled and several new faces came out. Bob Ivy and Semi- 

 nole Dixie came together, the latter losing in muzzle and 

 width of skull and stop. Midget, well-known, had a class 

 to herself. In open dogs Little Fritz and Tip Top were 

 placed as named, Fritz getting it in formation of muzzle 

 low in ear, but gets it again in body and curl. Dandy, third 

 is some degrees behind these two in size, head and ear' 

 Bitches (3) saw a neat little bitch in Princess May, the win- 

 ner; fairly formed head, needs a little more depth of body 

 is large in ear. Juliette, second, I could not find, while Nel- 

 lie, thii-d, carries her ears wide and is pinched in muzzle. 

 Princess May won in novices, being the only entry 



King Charles Spaniels (Mr. Mortimer, Judge).— Yaji]Lee 

 Boy put another ribbon to his credit, beating Blackstone, 

 second, in length of ear, height and volume of skull, tan and 

 coat. In bitches Twezel, too long in muzzle and dark in tan, 

 won from Jessie, Avho is superior in head, shorter in muzzle, 

 but was out of coat and faulty behind. Tiney won easily 

 over Queen in Blenheims, beating in muzzle, squareness and 

 depth. Prince Charles had one entry. Bell, only a fair one; 

 little long in muzzle and faulty behind. The only decent 

 Jap was Jap, who beats Mandarin in color, forelegs and face. 



Italian Greyhounds (Mr. Mortimer, Judge).— These were 

 the same as at Baltimore, and although Jos. Lewis's dogs 

 are not so good a size as Dr. Hoyt's, they are altogether 

 better formed. The prize list tells their order. 



The miscellaneous class though small was choice, one 

 might say. First went to Boston Model, the whippet, and 

 another first to Little Tarquin, a nicely formed toy bull- 

 terrier; his Avorst fault is his weak hind parts. Spot, an in- 

 different Dalmatian with bad ears and spots not distinct 

 enough on body, took third. Dash, an English water spaniel, 

 had a first, being transferred. H. w. L. 



BEAGLES.— CHAiiEKGE— 1st and 2d, Rocldand Beagle Kennels' Eme- 

 line and Roy K. Reserve, Sln-ewsburv Beagle Kennels' Raeei-, Jr — 

 Open— I>0(/*-; 1st, Shrewsbury Beagle Keunels' Doctor: 2d, W. G. Hai-d- 

 ing's Hawkeye; 3d, Rock-laud Beagle Kennels' Rockland Boy. Com, 

 E. A. Talbot's Jim Simmous. Bitches: 1st, Rockland Beagle Kennels' 

 Lonely; id, Middleton Kennels" Snow. Verv high com. and high com., 

 Shi-ewsbury Beagle Kennels Fannie Reid and Prudence. 



SPECIALS. 



Mastiffs.— Best American bred and best in open class. Merlin. Beat 

 hitch, Miss Caution. 



St. Bkrnabds.— Best kennel of rough,s, W. C. Reick. Best kennel of 

 smooths, E. H. Moore. Best American bred smooth dog, Meh-ose. Best 

 American bred smooth bitch, Empress of Contoocook, Best Ameri- 



can bred rough dog, Altoneer. Best St. Bernard in show, W. 0- 

 Eeick's Pi-ineess Florence. 



Great .Danes.— Best kennel, Cumberland Kennels. Best in open 

 class, Ma jor McKinley. Best in show. 3Ielac. 



Russian Wolfhounds.— Best kennel, Seacroft Kennels. Best in show, 

 Argoss. 



DEEBHOtTNDS.— Best in ehow^ Roderick Dhu. 



Grkyhodnds.— Best kennel, Manatong Kennels. , Best in show, G^m 

 of the Season. 



Pointers.— Best kennel, Charlottesville Kennels. Best heavy-weight 

 dog, Robert le Diable. Best heavj^-weight bitch. Woolton Game. 

 Best light- weight dog, Duke of tlessen. Best light-weight hitch, Maid 

 of Kent. 



English Setters.- Best kennel, Blue Ridge Kennels. Best dog or 

 bitch which has been placed at any public field trial, Antonio. Best in 

 show, Donna Juanlta. To breeder of same, Rosecroft Kennels. Best 

 in open classes, Countess Rush. 



JOHN BRETT'S ENGLISH SETTER KEAL ENGLISH. 



Pirst, New York, 1893. 



Irish Setters.— Best kennel, Oak Grove Kennels. Best in show, 

 Tim. ' 

 Gordon Setters.— Best kennel, Dr. Dixon. 



Collies.— Best kennel. Seminole Kennels. Best in open class and 

 best m show, Gold Dust. Best hitch bred by exhibitor, W. G. Lee's 

 Flora. 



Bulldogs.- Best in open classes and best m show, Leonidas. Best 

 bitch, Salem 

 Bull-Terriers.— Best kennel, F. F. Dole. 



Beagles.— Best kennel, Rockland Kennels. Best beagle. Lonely. 

 Fox-terriers.- Best kennel, L. & W. Rutherfurd's Best m open 

 classes. Tomboy Stakes, Blemton Vinde.^. AVire-liair. Saint Broom 

 Pugs.— Best in open classes, Toon & Sj-iuonds'.s Pi-incess May. 

 Italian Greyhounds,- Best kennel, F. H. Hoyt's. 

 Best dog in show, Joe Lewis's Spring. Best bitch, Joe Lewis's Sprite. 



Toi'onto Kennel Club. 



Editor Forest and Stream:. 



It is said that there is no finer club of its class in America 

 than the Toronto Kennel Club (iucorporated ). Its members 

 are^vealthy, its officere active, .and its dogs are world-famed 



greyhound southern beauty. 

 Fust, New York, 1898. 

 Owned by Mr. A. W. Purbeck, Salem, Mass. 



prize winners. In its well-equipped library the club held its 

 second annual meeting on Thursday night, March 16, with 

 Mr. Geo. B. Sweetnam in the chair. The various reports 

 read revealed remarkable organism, progress and prosperity. 

 The reading of an article entitled "A Lesson from the Toronto 

 Kennel Club," penned recently by Hugh Dalziel, the eminent 

 English author, for the London Bazaar, elicited great ap- 

 plau.se. Mr. AVm. Brodie, of London, Eng., presented person- 

 ally to the club a fine oil painting, handsomely framed, of his 

 old favorite, the Irish Ambassador. 



-L iiou V lue-jrresiueuL., o . o. vv uiiains: oecouQ Vice- 

 President, C. A. Stone; Secretary, W. P. Eraser; Treasurer, 

 H. J. Hill; Librarian, F. L. Mabee; Executive Committee— 

 H. B. Donovan, F. H. Elmore, Fred. Habart, .1. O. Bennett, 

 H. P. Thompson and Geo. B.' Sweetnam; .Solicitor, D. M. 

 Kobertson, B.A.; Auditors— J. S. Williams and Geo. B. 

 Sweetnam: Visiting Committee— R. P. Forshaw, H. P. 

 Thompson and Thos. Armstrong. 



After thanks were tendered to the retiring officers and to 

 those who had generously contributed toward the library, 

 Dr. Wm. Mole, M.JK.C.V.S., and Mr. D, M. Robertson, B.A.' 

 club solicitor, delivered short addres.ses. The secret of the 

 club's success is its educational advantages and the cordial- 

 ity of its members. T. 



Reflection Brought Correction. 



Editor Forest wnd Stream: 



1 was very pleased to see by the letter of Mr. Edward 

 Brooks in your issue of March 10, headed "Reflection 

 Brought Correction," that there are others who think it 

 strange for a judge to give a dog a certain prize and then in 

 his comments on the awards di.-^agree with himself. I am 

 afraid e.Khibitors will fight shy of judges of this kind. I 

 have no interest in the two dogs iu question, Kilcree and 

 Tiree, but being xevj much interested in the breed I cannot 

 help thinking it would only be fair if the judge would give 

 his reason for saying "the decision should be reversed." I 

 am aware that it is very bad policy on the part of a judge to 

 answer criiicisms, but this is a special case, seeing the criti- 

 cism is his own and exactly the opposite of his judgment. 



Scottish Tebrier. 



POINTS AND FLUSHES. 



[By a Staff Correspondent) 



The Weig-ht Classification of Pointers. 



Chicago, March 11.— I desire to express my appreciation of 

 the attentions bestowed on me by some pointer fanciers in 

 consideration of my remarks on weight classification in 

 recent issues of Forest and Stream, that is, and let it be 

 always so understood, if it be proper to do so. This uncer- 

 certainty in re.snect to propriety is consequent to the remark 

 of a gentleman of distinguished petulance, who wrote, in 

 reference to the matter under consideration, as follows: '"It 

 is a question for the pointer men to settle, that is, if there is 

 anything to settle." I feel that now and hereafter permis- 

 sion to wi-ite on pointers should first be obtained of the 

 pointer men, or at least the manuscript should be submitted 

 to them for approval or disapproval. Seriously I do not be- 

 lieve that the pointer men are so intolerant. An ex cathedra 

 l)earl of wisdom should not be ignored. I will heed what the 

 nom d,c plume gentleman says. Not to do so would be to 

 display an absence of proper veneration and sensibility to a 

 nom, dc ylume ukase. I proceed. 



Pressure of important news matter has prevented me from 

 giving this question earlier attention. 



Mr. Mu.ss-Ariiolt, in FoEEST AWD STREAM of Feb. 9, in 

 reply to my remarks, has a short article on pointer weight 

 classification. The points he makes are substautiallv as 

 follows: 



1. That the gist of my argument is that the present division 

 in weight compels bench shows to give more money. That 

 such IS "parsimonious and illogical." That no bench shows 

 give more prizes than they have to, and are "perfectly regu- 

 lated by the entries they get." 



The following arguments are quoted literally: 



2. "Otherwise Mr. Waters advances the new idea that all 

 setters had the same right to weight division; why, he leaves 

 us to assume. Because he and, I suppose, some more setter 

 men thinlc it unfair to the setters." 



8. "Pointer classes have pretty nearly always and every- 

 where, here and in old England, been divided— as a matter of 

 fact and necessity— by the peculiarities of the breed; the set- 

 ters have never been divided, either by weight or size as 

 there is no cause for it. As to the relative question between 

 IV^'^Lt^*^^^^*^ heavy weight, in regard to field qualities, 

 Mr. Waters lets his setter vein have a bit of freedom." 



4. "Dog jockeying, as I call it, between the cla.sses, should 

 be more severely dealt with, I agree, and have to acknowl- 

 edge it is done by men who would be ^'ery much insulted if 

 you would call them sharpers, and it is nothing else." 

 The foregoing are the main arguments. 

 Taking Mr. Arnolt's first point into consideration it needs 

 but a few lines to prove his mistake. English setters and 

 some other breeds rank equally in importance from a bench 

 show consideration with pointers. To divide pointers by 

 weight and give each division an equal sum of prize money 

 as each equally important breed receives, is illogical. Is it 

 "parsimonious" to call attention to this unreasonable favor- 

 itism ?_ If so, why ? 



I think that Mr. Arnolt is entirely mistaken when he says 

 that no bench shows give more prizes than they have to, and 

 are perfectly regulated by the entries they get. A bench 

 show management makes its prize list first and takes its 

 chances on entries afterward. Sometimes important classes 

 do not have a single entry. Others have but one or two 

 CLasses are arranged for some of the smaller toy breeds when 

 it is a certainty that the entries will not equal the prize 

 money. There is more to consider than the mere cash return 

 derived from entries in making up a prize list. I think that 

 Mr. Arnolt will on more mature consideration modify his 

 statement that these matters are "perfectly regulated by 

 the entries they get." 



Mr. Arnolt is inconsistent at the beginning of his second 

 paragraph. He says I advance the new idea that all setters 

 had the same right that the pointers have to weight division 

 He then says that why it is so I leave them to assume, if 

 they have the same rights, is not that the why? I do not 

 think that it is unfair to the setters that they are not classi- 

 fied by weight. Tlie real issue is that weight classification " 

 IS unnecessary in respect to pointers. I do not know what 

 the setter men think of it, nor do I discuss it in their inter- 

 est. It is an issue by itself. 



Concerning his third paragraph, I will quote the remarks 

 of a waiter who deems it proper to conceal his identity under 

 a vom. de plume. He .says: "As a matter of fact the Chicago 

 club has explodpd nothing, neither is it the first nor the one 

 hundredth that has given a premium list minus a weight 

 classification of pointers." Here two eminent defenders of 

 the pointers disagree. Settle it, gentlemen. The matter 

 of fact. IS unsettled. Referring again to Mr. Arnolt's state- 

 ment, what is the "necessity" which he mentions.'' What are 

 the "peculiarities of the breed" which cause- the necessity* 

 In discussing the relation of light-weight and heavy-weight 

 pointer, I cannot perceive wherein Mr. Arnolt is justified iu 

 implying prejudice on my part, from an assumption of a 

 preference for the setter. The relative merits of the two 

 breeds were not under consideration, nor even mentioned 

 The remark, therefore, was irrelevant and in a manner un- 

 just. 



In respect to the matter he calls "dog jockeying" it is a 

 natural sequence to the artificial weight division. 



This, I think, covers all that Mr. Arnolt has advanced If 

 he will scan his argument, I think he will not find a single 

 reasonable explanation of the weight division, much less 

 reasons for it. Were it true that the weight classification 

 had always been in existence, it w^ould not necessarily be a 

 sound argument for it. Progress means the destruction of 

 precedent and usage. 



There are some other writers who have written on this 

 subject, and incidentally therewith referred to myself. There 

 is one misapprehension I wish to correct at the outset. One 

 writer referring to me .says: "So, likely his friends will 

 deplore his Aveak defense of a still weaker case." There is no 

 defense, nor has there been— it is and has been an attack on 

 an unreasonable matter of bench show usage. My friends 

 continue in good health and sleep well notwithstandmg the 

 gravity of the question. 



To strip the subject of a lot of irrelevant matter, with 

 which it has been festooned for the purpose of creating a 

 diver.sion from the issue, it will be necessary to do some 

 pruning of the ideas advanced by the opposition. 



Thenoja dc plume gentleman says: "What is there be- 

 hind this weight classification talk? Another nigger in the 

 fen eel" 



Following out that elegant simile, why not take fence and 

 nigger and put them on exhibition publicly— if he can ? The 

 act would go far toward settling what is real and what is not 

 in respect to the colored gentleman in question, and the fence 

 m which he so picturesquely is figuratively reposing 



The same vio/u dc plume writer says: "Draw the curtain, 

 Mr. VV aters, lest daylight do enter." I know of no curtains 

 and, indeed, I do not know the need of any. Tm'n on the 

 light. The issue is a very simple one. The position of a 

 writer m respect to it must be very weak when he stoops to 

 muuendo which has no foundation in fact, but Avhich may 

 have an effect m pre j udicing the readers. But iu discussions 

 of this kind there is always one or more men, wise in many 

 thmgs though he or they may be, who are unfair, or over- 

 cautious, or over-suspicious, or over wise, yet at all times 

 great discoverers of grim bugaboos, and manufacturers of 

 motives for then- opponents. Yet an unfair argument to the 

 author of it often brings a kind of notoriety and the grati- 

 fied craving for a satisfied A anity. An affectation of purity 

 a dark frown, a few ambiguous nothings, a vague reference 

 to a bugaboo and the thing is done— the disaffected hail the 



