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FOREST AND STREAM. 



[3vLt 8, 1893. 



A Fair Offer. 



JEJMtor Forest and Stream: 



I noticed Mr. Miiss-Arnolt's article entitled "A FairOfEer" 

 in the issue of Forest and Stbeam, June 1. More important 

 matters liave engaged my attention up to tlie present time, 

 cliief of Avliieh was a visit to the Windy City and some eight 

 or nineA^isits to the World's Fair, of which two days, in 

 company with a doggy friend, were spent looking for that 

 unfinished building in which Mr. Buchanan was to have his 

 great dog show; but after two days' hard walking we gave 

 it up, not being able to locate any unfinished building in the 

 Department of Agricultxire. But I trust Mr. Buchanan will 

 be equal to the emergency, and by September find a place 

 suitable for the great""Dane and pointer judges to guess at 

 their i-espective classes. Of course, should it so happen that 

 there will be only nineteen entries at the time of closing, the 

 building will have to be still unfinished, and those judges 

 will be out of a job till some time in the tincertain future. 

 Now that I have told Mr. Mnss-Arnolt and other readers of 

 Forest and Stream what I have been doing with myself 

 this last month, I hope Mr. Arnolt at least will excuse this 

 long delay in answering his "Fair (?) Offer," 



In regard to Mr. Arnolt's offer to send Melac and Wenzel 

 on a tour to prove certain ideas of his own or disprove them, 

 I beg to say that I am not particularly interested in proving 

 or disproving Mr. Arnolt's pei-sonal theories. I am only in- 

 tei'ested in them in so far as they have had a direct public 

 bearing in his capacity as a public judge. Even if all the 

 judges were opijosed to him he could still maintain that he 

 was right, since he says of our recognized judges who have 

 reversed his decisions: "Does Mr. Goodman honestly be- 

 lieve that the celebrities in dogdom he names have anymore 

 right to their views than I, because they are excellent and 

 aiiproved judges of a number of breeds? I beg to differ 

 with him; to them it is their fifth wheel and they take great 

 Danes along to judge like any other breed," etc. According 

 to this, every breed is taken as a fifth wheel so that all our 

 judges are therefore fifth-wheel judges. It is discouraging 

 to argue with a gentleman who admits no exact knowledge 

 in others. 



Mr. Muss- Arnolt does me too much honor when he asserts 

 that my "fame will be always coupled with having ruined 

 any decent entry for the World's Fair show," etc. I fail to 

 see what that has to do with judgeship. Mr. Arnolt is un- 

 fair in that statement. There Avere mismanagement, a fake 

 list of judges, damaging delays, unjust exactions, oh, yes! 

 and an unfinished building, etc., which did the damage. I 

 was but one of the many who objected to such things. Had 

 there not been a principle of right and justice on the side of 

 those who opposed mismanagement, they would have been 

 defeated and confounded. 



One thing more and I am done. Mr. Arnolt says: "Was 

 It Mr. Goodman's sporting sense which let him carry Mr. 

 Hagan's Imperator in his crate from New York to Washing- 

 ton, never putting him on the bench, although he was always 

 entered?" 



I am pleased to see that Mr. Arnolt is so circumstantially 

 exact. It gives one full confidence in all his other state- 

 ments. There is but one circumstance, a trifling one, that is 

 incorrect in it, and that is, I never had Imperator in charge 

 from New York to Washington, nor did I eA'^er have him in 

 charge or in any crate at any other time. T^'oila tout. 



Harry L. Goodman. 



Nashvu^le, Tenn., June 30. 



POINTS AND FLUSHES. 



[By a Staff Correspondent.] 



I NOTE, on reading a clipping from a California paper, that 

 Mr. W, P. Brown, recently of Chicago, but now of Santa 

 Ana, Cal., has already made ai-eputation as a sportsman in 

 his section. Followiug is the mention : "Mr. W. P. Brown, 

 the gentleman who has recently purchased an interest in the 

 Brunswick Hotel in Santa Ana; Mr. J. D. Thomas, a recent 

 arrival from New York State, and J. 'Almost' Jones, returned 

 yesterday from a four-days' fishing and hunting trip in the 

 wilds of Bell Canon, in the Santa Ana Mountains. The gen- 

 tlemen's sun-blistered faces are evidence that they were ex- 

 posed to the gentle rays of a California summer sun. A 

 wagonload of fish, cotton-tails and other game amply repaid 

 them for their exertion." 



Competitors and Judges. 



Chicago, 111.— I am heartily glad that there are some as- 

 sociations which have sufficient courage to manage their 

 own affairs. The impertinence of some owners, in the 

 matter of influencing the selection of judges, has been 

 growing so much from year to year that it has come to be 

 an abuse. Because a man owns more entries than some 

 other man, it does not give him any right to dictate to the 

 association, under whose auspices he competes, what it shall 

 or shall not do. 



It is an injustice to other competitors, if one or more com- 

 petitors are listened to or considered in the matter of judges. 

 It is an insult to an association for a competitor to attempt 

 to influence it in appointing its judges. Palpably there is 

 some advantage sought in attempting to get certain judges 

 appointed, or there is an overwhelming egotism which craA^es 

 notice regardless of propriety. The follomng extract from 

 a letter receiA^ed recently from Mr. Thomas Johnson, of 

 Winnepeg, is a good one for the consideration of every field 

 , trial club in America. He says; 



"Mr. sent eight entries to Mr. Hunter for our Derby 



and reiterated Ms demand for certain judges. * * * Mr. 



Hunter desired me to write him (Mr. ) and compromise 



matters, but I called a meeting of the committee of the club 

 and wrote him as follows: 



"Any of the names you mention would be quite acceptable to this 

 club, but the stand we take is this: We eannot and toill not permit 

 any individual handler to dictate to us whom we must appoint as 

 judges. The desire of this club is to get fair and impartial judges, and 

 they will try to do so; but they feel that if you have no confldeoce in 

 our club wanting to do right, that we have as little desire for your 

 entries as you have to make them, and that it is only your prominence 

 in the field trial world that has ehcited a repl^' to what to us seems a 

 gratuitous insult. 



''Please say by return mail if the entries stand or if I shall return 

 your check." 



That letter is a good one to study. It has some sense. 

 Nothing is more wanting in associations in general than 

 courage enough to run their own business. Nothing is doing 

 more to kill field trials to-day than the competitor who is, or 

 tries to be, a manager of a trial in which he competes. This 

 growing eAdl must be choked or there will be great injury to 

 field trials. What inducement is there for a man Avho owns 

 one dog, and has no A^oice in the appointment of judges, to 

 enter in a competition against a competitor who OAvn^ four 

 or eight dogs and has had such jitdges appointed as he ap- 

 proA'ed? The smaller owner stays out. They .are the A'ery 

 men whom the clubs should induce to stay m. Diive the 

 amateur and small owners out, and the competition narrows 

 down to some large kennels all the way around the circuit, 

 . and year after year. These large kennels alone can not make 

 up a proper entry. Drive the small owners entirely out, and 

 the field trials are ended. Nothing aauU drive them out 

 Quicker than to learn that a large competitor has a voice in 

 the judging. The small OAvners are dropping out. The day 

 has arrived for associations to be less timorous. A firm, 

 manly policy is the best because it is right, and the best, too, 

 because it is successful. 



Of the same nature is the error of alloAvihg the professional 

 breeder and handler to be a member of an association in 

 whose trials he competes. Such handler has a decided ad- 



vantage over his fellow handler. He has a voice iu the 

 management of the club's affairs on one hand and is also a 

 competitor for the club's jirizes on the other. The manage- 

 ment cannot be kept too distinct and apart from interest in 

 the competition, nor can the competition be kept too dis- 

 tinct from the management. There is no question raised 

 here about a handler, or breeder who is a handler, being 

 eligible to membership as a gentleman. It is the impropri- 

 ety of the matter, from questions of equity. This evil 

 should not be tolerated, because it is improper in principle 

 and unjust to every other handler who runs dogs iu field 

 trials. 



-! The effort to placate owners or influence entries by giA'ing 

 the largest competitors a voice in the selection of judges 

 may help to swell the entries at one trial, but it is sure to 

 have its ill-effects at the next or later trials. If an oAvner does 

 not like the judges appointed by an association he is privil- 

 eged to remain away. There is less harm done when such 

 owner takes offense and remains away than when he ap- 

 points the judges and is pleased. B, Waters. 



Toronto Dog Show. 



The followiug judges, Mr. Stone tells us, haA^e accepted 

 the iuAdtation to judge at the Toronto show, commencing 

 September 11: Mr. C. H. Mason, New York city: Mastiffs, 

 St. Bernards, great Danes, NcAvfoundlands, greyhounds, 

 collies, bulldogs, bull-terriers, black and tan terriers, Scotch 

 terriers, fox-terriers, poodles, pugs and all classes of toy 

 spaniels, and the miscellaneous and selling classes. Mr. 

 John DaAudson, Monroe, Mich.: Pointers, Engli.sh setters, 

 Irish setters, Gordon setters, bloodhounds, Irish terriers, 

 Daudie Diumont terriers, Bedlington terriers, Airedale ter- 

 riers, toy terriers and Italian greyhounds. Mr, A. Clinton 

 Wilmerding, New York city: Field spaniels, cocker spaniels. 

 Clumber spaniels, Irish water spaniels and retrievers. Mr. 

 A. C. Krueger, Wrightsville, Pa.: Beagles, fo.xhounds, har- 

 riers, dachshunds, Scotch staghounds and Russian wolf- 

 hounds. 



The entries close Aug. 31. Those who Avish to show at the 

 World's Fair the f oUoAving week, according to present dates, 

 will be provided with accommodations, so that they can stay 

 in Toronto until ready to start for Chicago. We are pleased 

 to learn that the litter classes Avhich were found so objection- 

 able last year, and Avhich we spoke strongly about at the 

 time, will not be en evidence this year. Judging will com- 

 mence on Monday, Sept. 11, at 3 P. M., and dogs will have to 

 be on hand by 1 P. M. The show closes at 2 P. M. on Friday 

 following. 



Later. — Mr. H. B. Donovan writes us: 



Mr. Stone Avill send you oflScial notes of the doings 

 of the dog shoAV committee of the Toronto Industrial 

 exhibition; hoAVCA^er, there may be something he has over- 

 looked in the following items: The litter classes, which were 

 found so objectionable last year, have been eliminated. The 

 following changes have been made in the list: Handlers' 

 prizes increased to -$.30 and $20; and .SIO is offered to the Cana- 

 dian handler and o\vner makiug the largest number of en- 

 tries, not less than ten. A silver medal, value $20, is off'ered 

 the owner of kennel showing the largest nuniber of dogs. 

 Deerhounds changed to read Scotch staghounds and chal- 

 lenge classes doubled up. English and American foxhounds 

 must compete together for the kennel prizes, and so in the 

 challenge classes. The class for harrier puppies has been 

 cut out. The open classes for bull-terriers have been divided 

 into 301bs. or over and under 301bs., an open class added for 

 Airedales of $7, $3 and diploma, and also challenge classes of 

 $5 and diploma for Dandie Diumont and Scotch terriers. The 

 latter are also given a puppy class of $3, $2 and diploma. 

 Skye terriers have a challenge class added, but the black 

 and tan challenge class has been divided up. Classes for 

 poodles diAuded into French and Prussian. TheAvhippet class 

 and that for Clumber puppies have been cut off. The money 

 in the challenge classes for beagles 13iu. and under, has 

 been increased to $\Q and diploma, and in open classes to -f 10, 

 $S and diploma. The fox-terriers are well treated, the novice 

 classes being divided into smooth and wire, aud two chal- 

 lenge classes, Avith |10 and diploma added in wires. Wire- 

 haired and smooth pupjjies must compete together. Several 

 other changes of minor importance have also been made. 



Spaniel Trials. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



The numerous letters on spaniels that I have recently seen 

 in your columns have revived my old love for this ancient 

 and invaluable breed of sporting dogs. Scarcely a day passes 

 at the end of our partridge season, that I do not regret that 

 I am without a good spaniel to hustle the birds out of the 

 impossible (for pointer or setter) places, that these birds take 

 refuge in then. In fact, at that time of year far more shots 

 can be had over a brace of thoroughly trained spaniels thau 

 over any other kind of dog. But to be satisfactory they must 

 be trained to perfection, and have the extraordinary energy, 

 pluck and love of hunting that is peculiar to the breed. 



As to their shape, size and so forth that is a secondary 

 consideration in my opinion; for so long as they do their 

 work in the right shape, there cannot be much wrong Avith 

 them iu these respects, nothing but a true spaniel will work 

 like one. Of all the good ones I can recall to mind, not one 

 of them was otherwise than handsome — though I have seen 

 a few that were too pretty, and reminded me of what would 

 be called in the army "fine weather soldiers." 



As to the practicability of holding spaniel field trials; I 

 can see no particular diSiculty about it, a scattered covey of 

 quail would answer the purpose for testing a dog's quality 

 and training well enough; more desirable game is too scarce 



L general. 



Training spaniels is a very easy matter as compared vrith 

 training other shooting dogs, for all they are Avanted to do is 

 to keep within range, hustle up the game and then atop, 

 hunt where they are ordered aud retrieve. Of course, it 

 takes time and practice to train them, but that is about all. 



Shooting over a team of these dogs in a rough country is 

 more lively work than other sport. A frosty morning, pleas- 

 ant companion, with a fair amount of mixed game, ought to 

 make any boy feel happy. C. B. McMUEDe. 



Charlottesville, Va., June 25. 



The Bulldog. 



The effects of misleading expressions on different breeds 

 of dogs is sometimes far-reaching, and the Forest and 

 Stream would not be doing its duty if it did not by all in 

 its power strive to counteract the misplaced antipathy to 

 certain breeds of dogs, the bulldog in particular, that "has 

 arisen through ignorance and the vaporings of the average 

 newspaper paragraphist who persists in alluding to the 

 bullet-headed mongrel bull-terrier as a bulldog. Even 

 "Podgers" humorously scores the bulldog in our last week's 

 issue, page 560, but we appeal to his sense of ju.stice whether, 

 eA'enif the "bulldogs" which he speaks of were in reality 

 thoroughbred English bulldogs, which is A'ery doubtful, 

 these dogs were not doing their duty when they took such a 

 "stern" view of his case. In the comparatively limited 

 sphere of a class journal, compared to that of a daily news- 

 paper, it is difficult to reach the general public aud so incul- 

 cate as we should wish, and as we intend, a better opinion of 

 the bulldog. We defend the bulldog because, with the pos- 

 sible exception of the Newfoundland, it is the best abused 

 dog in America. We reiterate that the bulldog is not the 

 companion of a certain class of individuals of pugnacious 

 instincts. The bull-terrier may be, bat not the bulldog pure 

 and simple. 



DOG CHAT. 



A Show at Newark. 



The New Jersey Keunel League held a special meeting at 

 Newark on Friday last to finally consider the advisability of 

 giving a show there, as was suggested at the annual meet- 

 ing. There were present W. O. Kuebler, vice-president, who 

 represented the president. E. H. Radel, who at present is 

 in Canada; Dr. L. R. Sattler, E. R. Christopher. Walter 

 Biowe, Dr. Kitchell, Fraud Link, Dr. Fred Seitz, J. N. Sin- 

 nock, and others were represented by proxy. The local and 

 sporting press were also represented. Mr. W. O. Kuebler 

 occupied the chair, and after a general debate regarding 

 prospects of financial success, local interest in dogs, etc., it 

 was decided that, as about .$2,000 had been subscribed as a 

 guarantee fund and eA'erything wasfaA'orable, ashowshoxdd 

 be given Nov. 21 to 24, which should be undertaken by the 

 executive committee with power to call on members foi- aid. 

 The executive committee then conA^ened, with Mr. Christo- 

 pher in the chair. The committee appointed to make the 

 inquiries preliminary to a decision was by resolution made 

 permanent. Messrs. Browie and Link, committee on hall, 

 were instructed to arrange for the one recommended for the 

 week decided on. Mr. Morris was instructed to definitely 

 claim dates Nov. 21 to 24- with the A. K. C. and make an- 

 nouncements. Mr. J. C. Eisele offered the club the use of 

 his office for the bench show committee, Avhich was accepted 

 with thanks, and he Avas unanimously elected treasurer for 

 the bench show fund. The meeting the'u adjourned until 

 -July 14 



Lexington Dog Show. 



The premium list of the Lexington dog show came to hand 

 as we go to press. The show will be held Aug. 30 to Sept. 

 2. In the important breeds the prizes are: In challenge 

 classes in which sexes compete together §10, in open classes 

 $10 and medal, and in puppies a medal— whether silver or 

 bronze or gold Ave are not told. Dandies, Skyes, Yorkshires, 

 black and tans and toy terriers get $-5 and medal in open, 

 and $5 in challenge for first three named. Whippets, toy 

 spaniels, Mexican hairless and miscellaneous the same. 

 Pugs have noAuce classes with $5 and medal, and Italian 

 greyhounds are better treated than any, having two chal- 

 lenge classes Avith $5 each and $5 and medal in open classes 

 and puppies divided. In many of the breeds kennel prizes 

 of S15 to $10 are given by the Blue Grass Keunel Club. There 

 are already a number of other specials offered, among Avhich 

 is $50 for handler showing largest number of dogs entered 

 by one exhibitor. Irish aud Gordon setters get cases of 

 Avhisky and there is also a $10 special for best exhibit of dogs 

 from Canada entered by one exhibitor, not less than four. 

 Entries close Aug. 23, fee is $2.-50, Avith Roger D. Williams. 

 George H. Hill is the superintendent. Those exhibitors 

 who intend showing at Toronto can stay over the interven- 

 ing week at a cost of $1.25 per day. 



American Field Trials Club Derby Entries. 



In sending us the entries for the American Field Trials 

 Derby, Mr. W. J. Beck, the secretary, says that the pointer 

 class will not by auy means pay its way out. In vicAV there- 

 fore of the seeming rebzctance of pointer men to make entries, 

 the club will have no separate All- Age for pointers, both 

 breeds running together. We do not think that the Amer- 

 ican Field Trials Club has much to complain of, for a young 

 club they have done well in getting twice as inany entries 

 of pointers as the much better known Eastern Field Trials 

 Club, which offers better prizes as well. The entries for the 

 All- Age stake at the American Field Trials will close Aug. 

 1, with $5 to nominate, $10 on Oct. 1 and $5 to start. The 

 prizes are $150 to first, $100 to second and $-50 to third. 



National Beagle Club, 



It is about time the field trial committee of the N. B. C. 

 convened and came to some definite arrangement of classes 

 for the comiug trials. The New England Club has already 

 done so and the older club cannot afford to be at all dilatory 

 in this matter. It is not enough to think there is plenty of 

 time yet; beagle men want to know in good season what they 

 must prepare for, and if suitable dogs for entry are not in 

 their oavu kennels they need time to look around and pur- 

 chase something that will do. The quarterly meeting of the 

 National Beagle Club Avill be held at the A. K. C. rooms, 44 

 Broadway, New York, on Monday, July 17, at 4 P. M. 



United States Field Trials, 



Mr. Madison writes us that at the urgent request of many 

 of this club's patrons, the time of closing the entries to the 

 Grand Junction Derby has been extended to Sept. 1 The 

 second payment will be due Nov. 1. It is hoped this change 

 will prove beneficial to all parties concerned. He expects to be 

 able to announce the name of the third judge by that time. 

 The second payment to the Bicknell Derby will be due Aug. 

 1, as originally announced. 



The World's Fair Judges. 



We have received from Chicaijo a type-Avritten sheet con- 

 taining the names of the judges for the World's Fair already 

 published in Forest and Stream. It is headed: "The 

 Executive Committee on AAvards have selected the following 

 men as judges in the Kennel Exhibit." Miss Whitney's 

 name heads the list. The circular is not signed. Three of 

 the judges on the list, Messrs. John Davidson, .James Morti- 

 mer and E. Court-Rice, will not serve, and dogmen are inquti-- 

 ing how it is Dr. Twaddell's name appears as a Gordon setter 

 judge. His specialty used to be beagles and dachshunds; 

 perhaps it was A. C. Waddell that was meant. 



English K. C. Rules. 



The new English Kennel Club rules relating to classifica- 

 tions at shows, are intricate enough to titrn tlie head of the 

 ordinary exhibitor not gifted with a mental grasp that can 

 think of six different things at the same time. NVliat Avith 

 championship, Avinners, open and no\ice classes, confusion 

 seems Avorse confounded, but it will probably all come right 

 in the end, though disqualification will be the bitter mentor 

 in a good many oases. 



N. E. K. C. and a Fall Show. 



In March last the New England Kennel Club claimed with 

 the A. K. C. the dates Nov. 28 to Dec. 1 for a fall show. On 

 inquiry of Mr. Brooks as to whether a show would be held 

 on chat date, he advises us that there will be no show in the 

 fall, but one as usital in the spring. 



Spratts Patent Co. shipped to America, per steamship 

 England, June 11, the red brindle bulldog Sheriff, for E. K. 

 Austin, New York; a bull-terrier bitch for Wm. Tomkin, of 

 Macedonia, la.; bull bitch Watch for R. D. Winthrop, New 

 York; bulldo.g Damon for F. F. Dole, New Haven, Conn. 

 This company is gradually building up a good reputation 

 in this line among dogmen, who are never averse to paying 

 a little extra w^hen they know they can confidently expect 

 good treatment. 



Mr. A. B. Truman, of San Francisco, Cal., paid a visit, in 

 company Avith his wife, to the Oak Grove Kennels on June 

 26 and purchased the Irish setter dog Clifford ( A. K. C. S. 

 B., VoLIV., Pt. 3, No. G,438), by champion Bruce out of 



