SB2 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



[Oct. 21, 18&8. 



in trouble with h^r jibtopsail, and a man was sent down the topmast 

 stay before the 31 btopsail could be sent up in stops. In hoisting the 

 sail, the spinaker fouled one of the hanks, and had to be cleared 

 Derore the Jibtopsail could be fully hoisted. When it was finally 

 broken out at 2-50. however, it proved to be a ballooner. and not a 

 worbmp Had. Meanwhile her bifc crew had not been idle while one 

 man worked aloft, but though the boom was squared the reef was 

 shaken out at 2:55 and the working topsail hoisted higher, to the top- 

 mast head. In shaking out the reef, a man was hung from the mast- 

 bppd in the bight of a gantline, and hauled along th- boom by an 

 outhoal, casting off the stops. At the same time Valkyrie set a 

 balloon foresail and mastheaded her working topsail, but made no 

 attempt to shake out the reef, though she was losing steadily to 

 V ififi i&nt/. 



For over a quarter of an hour a man was visible at the topmast 

 headof Vigilant and another at the gaff end. lashing the head and 

 tack of the top'^ail and casting off the halvard and sheet, and when 

 this was done the second c'ub topsail was" sent up over the working 

 topsail, which was left in place. 



Vigilant had all this lime been gaining steadilv. and at 3:30. iust be- 

 fore the cluhtop.sail went up. she ran through Valkyrie's weather and 

 the white spinaker of the latter, which had been torn a little in setting 

 split clear acro«s. Almost on tlie moment the sail was taken in and 

 the light linen one set, but this too split before it was sheeted out, 

 going m two pieces from head to foot. The first spinaker was of 

 strong and heavy Scotch linen. In setting it, the foot was torn on 

 the bitts, m two places. Later on the sail went over the topmast 

 stay and caught m a hank, making a tear which spread clear across 

 3U8t as Vigilant ceased to blanket Valkyrie. 



Valkyrie's chance was now gone, wifh the finish but three miles 

 away, and Vigilant, in spite of the rising wind, carrying spinaker. 

 balloonjibtopsail and clubtopsail, twice the area of canvas. Her crew 

 worked on m spire of such discouragement, aud at 3:38 set up a large 

 jibtopsail as a spinaker. but it was too late, a dozen minutes more and 

 Vigilant was over the line, winning the race by only 40s. corrected 

 time, the official times being: 



,, . Start. Finish. Elap.=ed. Corrected. 



'ant ,2 27 qO 3 51 39 3 24 39 3 84 39 



Valkyrie 12 27 00 3 53 52 3 26 63 3 25 19 



On the windward work Valkyrie led by Im. 55s., and off the wind 

 Vigilant gained 4m. 8s. 



The attendant fleet was .smaller than on any previous day, but still 

 there was a very large number of people present at the start, turn 

 and finish. The steamers and tugs kept clear of the yachts all day 

 and gave no trouble. There was comparatirely little whistling at the 

 turn or finish, but on the way home cannon were fired and whistles 

 blown. As Vigilant passed and her signal was sent up on the May, 

 the steana yacht Corsair sent up the American ensign at both mast- 

 heads and on bowfsprit and gaff ends. 



The wind at the finish was much stronger than at the start, but it is 

 hardly necessary to state that .yachts do not carry ballooniibt 'pt-ails, 

 large spmakers and c'ubtopsails in a living .gale or a cyclone, and that 

 the reports of the wind and sea are mostly exaggerated ; at no time 

 during the day did the accompanying steamers roll badly or become 

 uncomfortable, and one could walk about the upper decks without 

 serious trouble from the wind. 



The worst came just after the finish, the sky clouded over, the wind 

 piped up and thes'-a ran higher, even in the Lower Ba.v; and all hands 

 virei e glad enough to hear the jingle bell and to watch the start of the 

 steam fleet, many of them racing in pairs. Fast as they went, the two 

 racing yachts were but little astern, fairly flying up the bay under 

 shortened canvas, in fact this was the finest sight of the day. 



Valkyrie s defeat may be ascribed to the l-^ss of her two sails, as she 

 PT'^oaWy liave saved her time by a small number of seconds 

 hnd the first spinaker held, and might even have won had the second 

 one not got under her bow after splitting. Vigilanfs victory, how- 

 ®7?n; °9 means laid to this account alone, but to the bold and 

 skillful way in which the kites were piled on to her all the way home 

 With a strong following wind, increasing all the time, she spread all 

 of her kites and ron the ri.sk of losing her topmast and being badly 

 beaten, rather than that of Valkyrie saving her time by a small margin 

 The work in shaking out the reef and reeving sheet and halliard, and 

 race ^ clubtopsail was very creditably done and won her the 



Taken altogether, the race was an exceptionally fine one, and the 

 honors are very even. Many have expressed their astonishment at the 

 good showing of Valkvrie compared with her previous work on the 

 wind; but there is really nothing contradictory about it. Mr. Watson 

 has turned out a boat that is far and away superior to any keel yacht 

 of large size ever floated, a boat that would probably have done well 



1 — -J c Ji . , .V " iJi uoauiy nave aone wen 



alongside Of anything built to meet her of the Volunteer type improved 

 ,te. She is not only fast through the water, but she carries a 



up to date, lj^u .o uvu •>iii.y laoi- Luruugu iiie wax«r, out sne carries a 

 large rig with ease, and holds to windward in the same way that the 

 smaller keel boats do. Her ocean voyage bears testimony to her 

 strength and sea-going qualities, and in the detail of quick working 

 she is ahead of anything on this side of the water. From a scientific 

 point of view, the perfection of her model is shown in her speed in 

 very light weather and her Quick working under all conditions 



At the same titre it is quite evident that in a topsail breeze, light or 

 heavy she is outclassed and overpowered by Vigilant. The third and 

 last of the three large Herre.«hoff boat.s of the year is very evidently 

 intended to make the most out of the New York Y. O. rule and the 

 prevailing conditions of American racing, when a clubtopsail is the 

 rule, at least a working topsail being always carried, lower sails being 

 an exception and reefing unknown, the race of Friday being the first 

 in which one of the large single-stickers, from Puritan to Vigilant, 

 has reetea her mamsail, and even then she carried a working tonsail 

 over it. 



With the power due to great beam and draft, carrying 1.200ft more 

 sad than her opponent, and with a great hollow in her floors. Vigilant 

 stands as the latest representative of a type that has long been recog- 

 nized as very fast ia moderate weather. Compared either with Volun- 

 teer or Valkyrie, she is much nearer to a racing machine, and her in- 

 fluence on designing is likely to be for the worse rather than the better, 

 but at the same time in producing her Mr. Herreshoff has clearly 

 worked withm the literal limits laid down by the clubs, and his latest 

 boat IS but the logical production of the present rule which we pre- 

 dicted several years since during the battle of the 40-footers. 



On a limited length lie has built the most powerful yacht yet seen in 

 the larger classes, paying for his large sml plan the price'set by the 

 rule; and with no limit to the number of crew, he has used to thefull 

 est extent the privilege accorded by the rule in designing a yacht 

 which, in spite of her size, could profit materially by the use of 

 movable weight to windward. While the tendency of this advance 

 may be deprecated, it must be admitted that the fault lies with the 

 clubs whifh have made and retained the rules, rather than with the 

 designer who has prorluced an extreme boat under them, and until the 

 clubs. American and British, see fit to define and limit the racing ma- 

 chine as a distinct type from the all-around yacht, it would be absurd 

 to raise any such distinction in the present case 



The conditions of British racing call for a certain type of boat and 

 A a kyriemust be considered a perfect craft for her home racing, as 

 well as a very fast boat on this side. The prevailing couditions of 

 American summer racing call for a very different type, while the rules 

 allow an extreme latitude to the designer. After three years of ex- 

 periment m the direction of the fin-keel and a very hollow section, Mr 

 Herreshoff has carried the same principles to an extreme in one of his 

 ViTu '^■'■sr'' yachts, and it must be said. wil;h complete success. Under 

 all the conditions which she has met in her various races. Vigilant has 

 proved very fast, and though these conditions do not include the 

 whole range of yachting weather, they quite cover the average in the 

 86ft. class. " 



Opinions differ as to her performance in a strong breeze and rough 

 water, conditions under which she has never been tried, but has only 

 approached m tn o races, the last trial race and the last Cup race A 

 great deal of nonsense has been printed about the furious gales and 

 breaking seas on each of these occasions, but neither day approached 

 lu Pi'oportionate weather for an 86 footer to that in which many of 

 the 40ft. races are sailed. 



While Vigilant has given every indication of speed and ability in a 

 reefing breeze and a sea, our own opinion is that she reaches her best 

 conditions in smooth water and with first or second clubtopsaU set: 

 her advantage over Valkyrie, beginning, for instance, w-hen the two 

 cease to drift and begin to sail, as in the first part of the triangular 

 race of xAIonda.y, and ending in such a strong breeze as blew on the last 

 leg of the same race. Then, in practically smooth water, heeled well 

 down under her second clubtopsail, Vigilant traveled very fast, and 

 was probably near her best point of sailing. Within tiiis range of 

 conditions she beat Valkyrie fairly and very badly, about four minutes 

 on each ten mile leg, and this in fair sailing and with no flukes. 



There is m this performance, however, nothing to justify the popular 

 assumption that she should do as well under the widely different con- 

 ditions ot t riday, a much stronger wind and more sea; on the con- 

 trary, the good performance of Valk.yrie, with less beam, a fuller 

 section and even more stability, is quite in accord with theory and 

 practice 



It wovdd be interesting to see more of this same work, nothing finer 

 has been seen here ma long time than the hard close fight to wind- 

 ward; but at the same time it must be conceded that Vigilant is very 

 much faster m ordmary racing weather and over long straight 



with renewed vigor, ana tbe usuai faUure to reaciianv fiefiniffl nnn (?,u^„Hf,J^ ^RfiTP V?^ ' '^^^ ^^^^^^ members were destroyed. On 

 elusioR, pro or con, ' ^^^^ ^ ^^^^^ ^^^"^^^ ,^as dest^royed by ^e^ ^^^^'^ 



on tWs sid^ '^S'"^.'°u^ Valkyrie displayed, is not called for 



yachtsmen whr. h.^''^f^'^'^' 'K^^^ "^"^ admiration of thousands of 

 th^^aZm^l m V" ^""'^^^d every race, and it is quite probable that 

 ?relt^erel^rt";:lLle^oTb?Bin1t'^ appreciated than in "the past, and 

 trh,mnh«''n<^'^ i° to?^ .cf Commander and following by the 



wiU hp !^^"'%'>f " EidgeforNewRochellp. where her crew 

 w nter i? H.p F She will lay up at City Island. Valkyrie also will 

 remnt ?L inn^'''''''P'^''l'^°'"'^uP""''^^™ having decided not to at- 

 tempt the long passage home this fall. 



Miramichi Y. C. 



hZll ,^i''amicbi Y. C. is the only one in New Brunswick. St. John 

 imfhifm*'-''"/^'^''""']'"'^ '•'^ badly tainted with professional 



Mh^amthf ^^ P '■ac'ng for sport's sake are impossible. The 



Mirara ehi Y. C. closed its eighth season on Monday Oct 9 with a 

 splendid race^ The addition of two yachts to the flee gave thTs sea 



nnl^^.^^l' ^ liave lacked if only the old 



ones had been in the contests. 



Co^-^'^stPwir'f'c ^^^'^'^^^ champion of last year, easily beat Vice- 

 wa^hpr^ Jf hL^"T ^'i"'*' ^'^^ '° the first three races, but 



^^5^11^^?*° finother new one of over 3ft. greater length, the 

 hi^f in^'t J^^*^ 1 ""^.^T' ^^^'S^l ™"ch larger! is of good model, 



til iffff L^i ''*!-^^''^'^'^'^^ ^f"^'*^^ "aude staSd up to her work in 

 the stiff sqifells that roar down the gulches. 



wiH?1S?,-i! t ^r''*:'^^i^'--'°"'"P°,'^'«''"'^^' narrow and deep centerboard, 

 with mside ballast, designed by Mr. H. C. McLeod, of the Bank of 

 n„ ^"^ amateur designer of considerable fame in 



Canadian and Minnesota waters. She lacked power to carry her sail 

 ?iu= """^ beaten in all the earlier races of the season. Her 



«hP 11?^ r,^'?'' i*" 7""^ cut down and the bowsprit lengthened 8in., and 

 npw hn.? everything of her size in two races, but beaten the 



big new boat twice on corrected time 



T,JfS<?v^"^.'"^°'^,''''*^'?er greatest victory. The race was 13 miles, 

 half of It windward work and half running. The wind was moderate 



Thp ?t«tT^J'^^> I'' 1*^^ ^'.^''y to give spice to tbe raca 



the start was made in the following order- 



Oriana, J L Stewart 2 07 55 Learig, A. Burr. 2 08 15 



Ke^^j.^C.^MK'".":^:-.-:! 0^8^ ?0 ^V"««ton.-.V.-.V.l It II 



mi^^ftpf f>?ia*'?''J''f?^- * ^"i* ^""^^ start, and was three 



TbXfAXo'^T^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^--^ ''^'^-'^«' 



fin^«iT"^nrLTn°''''^^?'"/^i-*? a beat Of % to the 



o.^J,J^- „0"ana gained steadily on the run down, particulariy after the 

 t^P fl^^ri'^n'^'A^?"^ Ji'^l"". y ^5 astern of the big fellow at 



the finish, while she had left Maude 10 minutes in the rear The fol- 

 lowing are the times: 



r po^;„ ^^st t"™- Finish. 



^;efj'f 4 19 00 4 28 45 



0"aua 4 20 00 4 29 40 



4 31 40 4 40 30 



K'"05;h Did not finish. 



^•^ariing.. Did not finish. 



AS Learing allows 4m. 30s., Ariana wins by over 3m 

 The finish was in a rain squall, but the wharves we>-e black with 

 cheering crowds. Mr. Stewart had tuned up his beaten boat until she 

 had beaten everything, big and small in a fair race; and his pluck, 

 persistence and success were rewarded by the cheers of the people. 



A bulb fin-keel, or a housing fin. such as the yachting editor of the 

 Forest anb Stream has given in one of his designs, would give Oriana 

 the power she lacks and make her a dangerous rival for anything of her 

 size. She is non-capsizable with her half-ton board down, and answers 

 the least touch of her helm. She will stay under either jib or mainsail 

 alone, and is the driest boat in a river chop that her owner ever sailed 

 has sailed her in the river, where wind against tide makes 

 the water boil, and in the inner and outer Miramichi bays in dirty 

 weather, and two small splashes of water are all that have reached 

 him over ber rail She is is 31ft. over all. 7 2ft. beam and 2.6ft, draft 

 Her designed load wateriine is 23.6ft., buth. avy construction and extra 

 ballast have put her down 3in. and lengthened her load line to 35ft 



Elapsed. 

 2 20 30 

 2 21 45 

 2 ,33 20 



The selection of a site on salt water for the 1894 meet, which is de- 

 manded by many members of the Atlantic Division, is likely to resolve 

 itself into a choice between Chimmon's Island, off Norwalk, where the 

 Division meet of this year was held, and the site of 1890, at Jessup's 

 Neck. Serious objections exist to each of these places, but out of the 

 multitude of sites suggested, they are the only two which are not 

 clearly out of the question. A final decision must be made by the 

 executive committee on Nov. 4, and the time for further examination 

 of sites is very short. This week Com. Dorland will visit Croton Point, 

 above Sing Sing, on the Hudson River, which, though not on salt 

 water, is in the Division, and will fill many of the requirements of a 

 "back yard meet." Apart from the feeling of many that the meet 

 should be held near New York, there are some obstacles to a return to 

 the St. Lawrence, but in our opinion the continued success, if not the 

 existence of the A. C. A., rests in the abandonment of the Division 

 scheme in part, and a return to the original plan of one general meet, 

 and that at a semi-permanent site. 



Canoeists everywhere will sympathize with the New York 0. C. in 

 the great loss which has befallen it in the storm of Saturday, the club 

 house being sunk and destroyed, and nearly all of the canoes badly 

 wrecked. 



The A. C. A. Executive Committee. 



AViTH the first of the present month the new general officers of the 

 American Canoe Association, Com Dorland and Sec'y-Treas Douglass 

 assumed office. Com, Cotton and Sec'y-Treas. Burns retiring. Com' 

 Dorland has set Saturday, Nov. 4, as the date of the annual meeting' 

 which will be held in New York. The meeting will be called to order 

 at 10 A. M, sharp at Clark's, No, 22 West Tw. nty-third street, and in 

 theevemng a dinner will be given at 7 P. M. Com. Doriand has 

 appointed the following dinner and reception committee, and tickets 

 may beobtaiued of them: 



Mr. William Whitlock, chairman. New York 0. C.- GUbert B 

 Crowell, Jr., Arlington C. C ; Robert H. Peebles, Bayonne C. C ■ 0 v' 

 Schuyler Brooklyn C. C; L. Kretzmer. Hotoken C. C; Barron 

 Fredericks, lanthe C. C; E. C. Griflin, Koickerbocifer C 6 • W S 

 Elliot, Marine and Field Club; Schuyler Schieffelin, New York C 'c • 

 Dr. Kitchell, Ompoge C. C; C. W. Borroughs, Orange C. C; Frack Mc- 

 Lees, RuthertordC. C; Daniel Goodsell, Yonkers C. 0.; E E Booze 

 Park Island Canoe Ass'n. , c, 



The incoming officers of the Association are as follows: Executive 

 Committee American Cauoe Association, 1893-94: 



Commodore, Irving V. Dorland, Arlington. 



Sec'y-Treas., Geo. A. Douglass. Newark. 



Librarian. W. P. Stephens, Bayonne. 



Eastern Division: Vice-Corn., E. H. Barney. Springfield; Rear-Cora.. 

 C F. Shuster, Jr. Holyoke; Purser, E, C. Knappe, Springfield; Ex 

 Com. G. L. Parmele, Hartford; Paul Butler, Lowell; R. Appolonio 

 Winchester. ' 



Atlantic Divwon: Vice-Corn., C. V. Schuyler, New York; Rear- 

 Corn , Barron Fredncks, Newark; Purser. F. L. Dunuell, Brooklyn- 

 Ex. Com., JJl. Lake, New York; F. W Noyes, Philadelphia; J K 

 Hand. New York. i- , ^. 



Central Division; mca-'Com^W. 0. Witherbee, Port Henry ; Rear- 

 CoQi., C. G Belraan, Amsterdam; Purser, C, E. Cragg, Port Henry 

 Ex Com,, C. V. Winne, Albany; W. R. Huntington. Rome. 



^orihern Diviswii: Vice-Com., H. M. Molson, Montreal; Rear-Com 

 ^:?'^^®^/^°^'^'''',J?'''''^'''"^''"^! Purser, H. R. TUly, Toronto; Ex Com 

 W. H. Macnee, Kingston; W. L. Scott, Ottawa; C. E. Ai-chbald, Mont- 

 real. ' 



The above list may be shortened when the exact membership of 

 each division, and the representation to which it is entitled shall be 

 fully known. 



Com. Dorland has appointed the followmg committees: Camp Site 

 Committee. R. J. A\ilkin, Chairman; Raymond Appolonio. Regatta 

 Committee, H L t^uick. Chairman; C. B. Vaux, Erail Knappe. 



In order to be acted on at the meeting all ameudmeuts to rules and 

 all proposals for honorary membership must be jjublished in the 

 next issue of the Forest axd Stbf.am. The following candidates for 

 associate membership have been proposed: Miss M. E. MacKerras 

 Miss E. Paukne Johnson, IVliss Constance Braine 



Palisade C. C. 



At the regular meeting of the Palisade C. C. held on Tuesday. Oct. 

 10. at the club house, foot of loth Street, Hoboken, N. J., the follow- 

 mg committee w^as appointed to obtain estimates on a war canoe: 

 P. Hildebrandt, H. Hall and T. Finn. The Palisade is a young club 

 °° ■^"c?,''- ^'^ ^'"^ ^'^'■ee membprs: P. Hildebrandt 

 Max Franz and George Shields. These three members fought a hard 

 battle for over a year, but at present the club is well organized, now 

 having a membership of twenty, and enrolling eight new members 

 at tae last meeting. The members are all training hard and expect 

 to make a fine showing at the canoe races next spring. Mr. P. Hilde- 

 brandt has received his new canoe yawl which he had built at the 

 Enterprise Boat Works, Hoboken. She is a very handsome boat, 18ft. 



wKr'r'yafaiiof 'fstf^t'"''''^ "'^^'^ "'^^"^""^ ^"^^ 



CANOE NEWS NOTES. 



The canoeists' fall camp at Bend View, on the Passaic, was opened 

 friaay aooul noon, and the committee was accompanied by the crew 

 in the Orange vvar canoe to Bend View. The camp was located on the 

 lawn south of Bend View Hotel, a very pretty portion of the Passaic. 

 It was about one-half mile from Avondaie Station. The river at this 

 point IS about one-quarter of a mile wide, and the camp was situated 

 on a well wooded slope running down to'the water's edge. There are 

 no sand beaches in that portion of the Passaic, so the large float of the 

 iiend V iew Hotel was placed at the canoeists' dispo.sal. By Saturday 

 noon there were twelve tents pitched and about fitly canoeists in 

 camp. Saturday was spent m the general arrangement oil camp and 

 short cruises, and Sunday was spent very much the same way. On 

 baturday night a large camp-fire was burning, and it was mid- 

 night before the boys broke away from the camp fire. The mess was 

 attended to by Mr, Orcett the proprietor of the Bend View Hotel. 

 J he open canoe is the ideal boat for the upper Pa.ssaic, and a goodly 

 number were tied to the float and scattered along the grassy bank 

 • H®'"'' only three or four sailing canoes Those who have not 

 visited the upper Passaic made a mistake in missing this little wind up 

 ot the season, as the trees were decked with their fall coloring, making 

 the river and its banks a very pretty sight. 



Imge mid §^lhrg. 



Cincinnati Rifle Association. 



Cincinnati, O.. Oct. 8. -The Cincinnati Rifle Association held its 

 regular practice shoot at its range to-day and made the scores as ap- 

 pended. Conditions: 200yds.. off-hand, at the Standard target Two 

 weeks from to-day, this association will hold its annual prize shoot 

 to which all are welcome. Remember the date Oct 22 



Gindele 7 7 9 g s lo' 8 9 8 7-81 



97797 10 678 8-78 



9 9 8 10 87676 8-78 



Payue 98989788 9 4-78 



68798898 10 6-79 



68758 10 10 79 8—78 



Weinheimer .3 g 0 6 7 10 7 9 7 8-76 



697599569 6—71 



. 4 10 7 7 9 7 6 10 7 9-71 



l^rube 8 8 7 8 8 10 6 8 9 7-79 



987 10 6 7668 9-76 



„. r 7 8 fi 9 6 6 10 7 5-73 



Pinion 86898 JO 885 8-7fi 



r 8 8 8 5 7 5 7 10 8—73 



7 68986857 8-73 



Stegner 677684777 6-66 



686358954 9-63 



„. 385498 10 66 4-62 



Topf 588888767 9-74 



46835 8 7 10 8 5—63 



„^ .. 73 9 578648 1-58 



4 9 44649685 60 



5 10 0 3 6 5 3 6 10 7—55 



10 5 10 4 3 4 5 5 3 4-53 



Rutnoff 534 7 52844 7-49 



576306746 4—53 



5368 4 4435 6-43 



Nagel 3 0 0 5 2 5 7 9 10 7-54 



7445 3 365 6 4-47 



3 0 0 5 6 5 4 7 4 4-88 



Greenville Rifle Club. 



The attendance at the weekly shoot in Armbruster's Park Oct 14 

 was light. It was expected that M. Dorrler would be on hand to enter 

 the .50 shot race for the chicken dinner and other fixings. The 50 shot 

 match was carried, with Messrs Collins, Chavaut and Ptaisted as the 

 only contestants. The weather conditions were decidedly unfavonible 

 for high totals. A heavy southwest gale was sweeping over the 

 Newark Bay and across the range, sometimes at 10 miles per hour and 

 at others at 30 miles. Collins with his little .32-12.ica). was not m it 

 with his competitors shooting their .38-800s- 



Plaisted, scratch lO.W Collins 896+60- 956 



Chavant 984-f40— 1024 ^ 



Club scores, 10 shots, possible 350: 



Plaisted 34 -22 35 21 :.'i -J.t W 21 25-328 



Chavant 25 21 33 16 2:^ 17 2.' 20 2;l-313 



v. i ^3 18 17 21 23 21 18 18 21 20-199 



The weekly gallery shoot for class medals Oct. 13 brought out the 

 usual competion. Colin Boag was high with 343, but he is a Utt'e late 

 to land with the winners in his class. One more shoot winds up the 

 series. Geo. Purkess is 15 points in the lead for first prize in the first 

 class. The result of the season shoot will be forwarded to Forest 

 AND Stream next week. 



Scores, 10 shots, T'ossible 250. distance 75ft.: Colin Boag 343, Robi- 

 doux3.38, Purkess 337, CoUins 237, Dodds 334, Chavant 332, Spahn 328, 

 Agnew 220, John Hid 217. 



Turtle Bay Rifle, Gun and Pistol Club. 



The annual outing took place at Woodside, Oct. 8. While the mem- 

 bership is light, the energy and vim of the members is of the heavy- 

 weight order Captain Geo. E. Jantzer as executive has to keep 

 hustlmg in order to set the pace for his followers. On this occasion 

 Henry Wolter pushed his leader hard for first position His score 

 published in another column of 59 out of a possible 60 was first-class 

 and speaks well for the gun and ammunition, as well as for the hold- 

 ing abihty of the shooter. Five prizes, 5 shots per target, 3 best to 

 count, distance 150ft., 82cal. rifle: 



Geo E Jantzer 55 54 52-161 C H Plate 42 43 ;-j9_134 



Hy Wolter 50 51 59-160 W Lubeck 40 44 40-124 



J Ochs, Jr 51 51 49-151 JEldt, Jr "si 3:^ nr 



OG. Fuchs 50 48 46-144 C Ulandherm 33 33 30- 96 



JLOberle 32 46 44-142 HZubiller 30 80 30- 90 



H\V Tanner 45 50 43—138 



Champion (bronze) medal, 1 target, 5 shots, small 35 ring target 

 distance 150ft.: J Ochs, Jr., 108, O. G. Fuchs 107, J. Oberle 107! C 

 Ulandherm 105, Thos. Fitzpatrick 105. j 



Revolver Shooting in England. 



The season at the North London Rifle Club is drawing to a close 

 There are only two more days for revolver shooting, ending Oct 18 

 when the result will be known. The only one who can now catch Mr' 

 Winans. that is, if he makes highest pos.sible scores each day, and Mr 

 Wmans does not compete any more, is Mr. Andrews, but such a con- 

 tingency 18 very improbable, as the latter was only able to make a 

 score ot 37 on Oct, 4. Below are the leading scores for the revolver 

 championship of the North London Rifle Olubto date- 

 Walter Winans. 41 41 41 41 41-205 T Andrews 42 40 40 .M7 85-ni4 



C F Lowe 41 40 39 39 :^9-198 Oapt Cowan. . , .39 39 39 36 30-189 



Lieut Varley. ...42 40 38 37 37-194 Maj Munday. ...39 38 38 37 30-188 



The scores for the South London Rifle Club's revolver championship 

 competition are much lower, owing to its exposed range Below are 

 the leading scores to date: 



Walter Winans. 41 41 40 40 40—303 OF Lowe. . 40 39 39 88 38—194 

 Lieut Heath. . ..40 39 39 38 38-194 F H Frost, . .'. .'..40 .38 37 37 86-188 



Italian United Associations. 



u ^<JR^' Oct. 14 -1 send you the report of the shooting match 

 held by the Italian bhooring A.ssociations of New York. atLvon'sPark 

 Oct 13, for the benefit of tlie Italian hospital. 



Target of Honor. 3 ^hols, possible 54: First pr ze, Muzio. 32; second, 

 Reah, dO; thu-d. Gandolh, 50; fourih Selvaggi, 49; xlfth. Abarno 48 



Public Target-First prize, Selvaggi, 53; tecond, Reah, 51;'thiVd, 

 Muzio. 51; fourth, Gandolfl, 51; fifth, Abarno, 50; sixth. Hennery 49- 

 seventh. Dr. Fanoni, 49. • ' > j 1 , 



The Italian Shooting Association will hold a live bird, bluerock and 

 nfle contest, open only to members, on Oct. 19, at Woodridge, N. J. 



AuTOKD iUizoBATi, President, 



