498 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



[Dec, 9, 1893. 



The same load in Winchester Rival, No. 3 primer: 



10,759 4 lbs. equal 732 atm. 828.9 ft. equal 251 meters. 



7,879.2 " " 546 " 795.9 " " 241 



7.805.7 " " 531 " 825.5 " " 250 



6,526 8 " " 444 " 802.4 " " 943 " 



8,202.6 •' " 558 " 812.3 " " 246 



The same in Climax shells: 



6,262.2 lbs. equal 426 atm. 795.9 ft. equal 241 meters. 



4,894.1 " " sm " 694.9 " •' 210 " 



5,203 8 " " 354 •' 795.9 '• " 241 " 



The same load in Kynocli Grouse shells: 



8,775.9 lbs. equal 597 atm. 821.11 ft. equal 249 meters. 



7,330.6 " " 498 " 805.8 " " 244 " 



5.953.5 " 405 " 802.4 " " 243 



9.172.8 " " 624 " 845.0 " " 256 

 8,952.3 " " 609 *' 789.2 " " 239 



The same load in Creedmoor shells, Winchester No. 2 primer: 



5.556.6 lbs. eq'ial 378 atm. 795.9 ft. equal 241 meters. 

 4,674 6 " ■• 318 " 



4.894.1 " " 333 " 7.36 6 " " 223 '■ 



4.718.7 " " 321 " 713 9 " " 216 



4.851.0 " " 380 " 683.0 " " 205 " 



At this juncture a heaYj- rain set in. 



Schultze powder. 3drs , 1!-^oz sh it No. 7 in Smokeless shells: 



8.580.1 lbs equal 583 atm. 802.4 ft. equal 213 meters. 

 7,8/5 7 " 5:J1 789.2 " " 239 



- 7,:-J20.6 " " 498 '■ 795 9 " " 241 " 

 The same load in Eley shells: 



7.276.5 lbs. equal 495 atm. 785.10ft. equal 238 meters. 

 7.629.3 " " 519 " 79'.9 '■ 241 



8.334.9 " " 567 " 795 9 " " 241 

 The same load in Nitro Club shells: 



5.865.3 lbs equal :399 atm. 766 0 ft. equal 2:32 meters. 



4.938.2 " '• 366 " 746.3 " •' 226 " 

 8,864.1 " " 003 " 835.5 " " 250 



The same load in Winchester Rival shells, No. 3 primer: 



6.659.1 lbs. equal 453 atm. 782.6 ft. equal 237 meters. 



5.556.6 " " 378 " 762.9 " " 231 " 



5.762.4 " " 392 " 775.11 " 2:35 

 The same load in Kynoch shells: 



7.232.4 lbs. equal 492 atm. 789.2 ft. equal 239 meters. 



5.512.5 " " 3-5 " 756.2 " " 229 



6.938.6 " " 46^i " 723.6 " " 219 " 

 The same load in U. S. Rapid shells: 



5,20:3.8 lbs. equal 354 atm. 766.0 ft. equal 238 meters. 



6.521.8 " " 444 " 762.9 " 231 



5.865.3 " " .399 " 775.11 " 235 

 The same load in Winchester Rival, common: 



5.821.2 lbs. equal 396 atm. 766.0 ft. equal 232 meters. 

 5,8o5-3 " •' 399 " 726.9 " " 220 " 



4.851.0 " " 330 



The same load in Creedmoor shells, Winchester No. 2 primer: 



4.806.9 lbs. equal 327 atm. 717.0 ft. equal 217 meters. 



4.542.3 " .309 " 



4,674.6 " " 318 " 



The same load in U. S. Climax shells: 



4.454.1 lbs. equal 303 atm. 



4.410.0 " " 300 " 743.0 ft. equal 285 meters. 



4.336.5 " " 295 " 717.0 " 217 " 

 E. C. powder, 3drs., IJ^oz. shot No. 7 in Smokeless shells: 



6.350.4 lbs. equal 4.32 atm.- 815.7 ft. equal 247 meters 



8.790.6 " •' 498 " 808.11 " a45 



8.658.3 " " 489 " 825.5 " " 250 

 The same load in Eley shells: 



7.144.2 lbs. equal 4S6 atm. 808.11ft. equal 245 meters. 



5.071.5 " " 345 " 792.5 " " 240 



5.159.7 " " 351 " 799.0 " '• 242 

 The same loid in Nitro Club shells: 



4.762.8 lbs. equal 324 atm. 756.2 ft. equal 229 meters. 



5.909.4 ■' " 402 " 733.6 " " 219 

 5,55.6.6 " " 378 " 782.6 " " 237 " 



The same load in Kynoch Grouse shells: 



5.247.9 lbs. equal ;357 atm. 772.9 ft. equal 231 meters. 

 4,938.2 " " 336 " 753.10" " 228 

 5,247.9 " " 3,57 " 782.6 " " 237 



The same load in Rival shells, common: 



4.674.6 lbs. equal 318 atm. 828.9 ft. equal 251 meters. 



4.630.5 " •' 315 " 7:33.3 '• 221 



4.630.5 " " 315 " 723.6 " " 219 

 The same load in Winchester Rival, No. 3 primer: 



4,806.9 lbs. equal 327 atm. 756.2 ft. equal 229 meters. 



5,037.4 " " 342 " 772.7 " " 234 " 



4.894.1 " " 333 '• 



The same load in U. S. Rapid shells: 



4,806.9 lbs. equal .327 atm. 7-36.6 ft. equal 223 meters 



4.674.6 " •' 318 " 723.6 " " 219 



4.718.7 " " 381 " 7.36.6 " " 223 " 

 The same load in Climax shells: 



4.586.4 lbs. equal 312 atm. 



4.498.2 " 306 " 



4.851.0 " " 330 " 681.0 ft. equal 209 meters. 

 The same load in Creedmoor shells, Winchester No. 8 primer- 



4.630.5 lbs. equal 315 atm. 743 0 ft. equal 285 meters. 



4.601.1 " •• 313 " 710.6 " 215 " 



4.543.3 " " 309 " 759.5 " " 230 " 

 Walsrode leaf powder, 31grs., equal 2.1 grams, IJ^z. shot No. 7: 



7.791.0 lbs. equal 530 atm. 874.9 ft. equal 265 meters 



7;5r0.5 " •■ 515 " 858.3 " " 260 " ' 



8,158.5 " " 555 " 881.9 " " 267 



DuPont's smokeless powder, 2^drs., IJ^oz. shot No. 7: 



8.158.5 lbs. equal 555 atm. 888.4 ft. equal 269 meters 



5.115.6 " " 348 " 815.7 " " 247 " 



8.246.7 " " 561 " 861.11 " 261 

 Walsrode powder, granul., 29grs., equal 1.90 grams, IJ^oz. shot No. 7 



8.511.4 lbs. equal 579 atm. 815.4 ft. equal 247 meters 

 8,48.3.1 " 573 " 812.0 " " 246 " ' 

 7,011.9 " " 477 " 785.10 " 238 



3i^drs. DuPont smokeless powder, i%oz. shot No. 7: 



9,(i57.9 lbs. equal 6.57 atm. 

 34grs. Walsrode leaf powder, IJ-goz. shot No. 7: 

 0,615.0 lbs. equal 450 atm. 

 34grs. Walsrode powder, granulated IJ^oz. shot No. 7: 



7,893.9 Ibe. equal 537 atm. 

 SJ^drs. Schultze uowder, IJ^^oz. shot No. 7: 



7,982.1 lbs. equal 543 atm. 

 S>^dre. Schultze powder (Pompton), IJ^oz. shot No. 7: 



11,510.0 lbs. equal 783 atm. 

 SJ^drs. American wood po wder, IJ/^oz. shot No. 7: 



7,188.3 lbs. equal 489 atm. 

 334drs. S. 8. powder, 1 Vsoz. shot No. 7: 



11,818.8 lbs. equal 804 atm. 

 B}46vs. E. C. powder, t%oz. shot No. 7: 



8,379.0 lbs. equal 570 atm. 

 34grs. Walsrode leaf powder in Smokeless shells, IJ^oz. shot No. 7: 

 6,983.7 lbs. equal 471 atm. 

 Oct. Continuation of the Primer Test. 

 S. S. p > vder, .3drs., l|^oz. shot No. 7 in Eley shells: 



Bursting Strain. Velocity. 

 7.3G4.7 lbs. equal 501 atm. 760.0 ft. equal 832 meters. 



6.791.4 " 462 " 789,8 " 8.39 " 



6.958.5 " " 405 " 786.9 " " 218 " 

 The same load in Smokeless shells: 



7,4:38.2 lbs. equal 506 atm. 



8,158.5" " 555 '• 749.7 ft. equal 227 meters, 



6,967.8 " " 474 " 703.3 " " 213 



Tie same load in Nitro Club shells: 



7,542.1 lbs. equal 513 atm. 706.6 ft. equal 214 meters. 



5,071.5 " " 345 772.7 " " 234 " 



5,9.53.5 " " 405 " 687.9 " " 208 



The'same load in Winche-ter Rival, No. 3 primer: 



6,660 1 lbs. equal 453 atm. 792.5 ft. equal 240 meters. 



5.898.0 '• 800 " 671 6 " •' 203 



5,071.5 " " 345 " 700.0 " " 212 " 



The same load in U. S. Rapid shells: 



6,218 1 lbs. equal 483 atm. 696.9 ft. equal 211 meters. 



5,865.3 " " 399 " 720 3 " " 216 " 



5,071 5 " " 315 " 693.6 " " 210 '* 



The same load in Climax shells: 



5.512.5 lbs. equal 375 atm. 



4.674.6 " " 318 " 786 9 ft. equal 21 8 meters. 

 4,630.5 " " 315 " 703.3 " " 813 " 



The same load in Winchester Rival shells, common: 



5,600.7 lbs. equal 381 atm. 687.0 ft! equal 208 meters. 



4,983.3 " " 339 " 720,3 " " 216 



4,8'51.0 " " 330 " 678.0 " " 205 



The same load in Kynoch Grouse shells: 

 7,011.9 lbs. equal 477 atm. 



4,894.1 " " 333 " 703.3 ft. equal 213 meters. 



5,292.0 " " 860 " 696 9 " " 211 

 The same load in Creedmoor shells, Winchester No. 2 primer: 



4.718.7 lbs. equal 381 atm. 720.3 ft. equal 216 meters. 

 4,851.0 " " 330 " 



4.674.6 " " 318 " 700.0 " " 212 

 American wood powder, Sdrs., IJ^oz. shot No. 7 in Eley shells: 



6.085.8 lbs. equal 414 atm. 762.9 ft. equal 231 meters. 



5.512.5 " " 375 " 713.9 " '• 214 

 5,298.0 " " 360 " 789.2 " " 2.39 



Same load in Smokeless shells: 



6.085.8 lbs. equal 414 atm. 749 7 ft. equal 227' meters. 

 5.484.3 " " 369 " 713.9 •' " 214 



5.247.9 " " 3.57 " 772.7 " " 234 

 Same load in Nitro Club shells: 



5.9.53 5 lbs. equal 405 atm. 746.6 ft. equal 223 meters. 



5,159 7 " •' .351 " 769.4 " " 233 " 



5.292.0 " " 360 " 691.0 " " 209 " 

 The same load in Winchester shells, No. 3 primer: 



6,129.9 lbs. equal 417 atm. 687.9 ft. equal 208 meters. 



5.3.36.1 " " 363 " 723.6 " " 217 



5.159.7 " " 351 " 691.0 " " 209 " 

 The same load in U. S. Rapid shells: 



4,674 6 lbs. equal 318 atm. 723.6 ft. equal 217 meters. 



4,498 2 " " 316 " 687 9 " " 208 " 



4.454.1 " " 303 " 678.0 " " 205 

 The same load in Climax shells: 



6.997.6 lbs. equal 408 atm. 743.0 ft. equal 225 meters. 

 5,292.0 " " 360 " 691.0 " " 209 

 5,292.0 " " .360 " 785.10 " 838 " 



The same load in Winchester Rival shells, common: 



5.865.3 lbs. equal 399 atm. 788.9 ft. equal 220 meters. 



5.292.0 " " .360 " 678.0 " 205 



5.336.1 " " 363 " 728.9 " " 220 

 The same load in Kynoch Grouse .shells: 



5,292.0 lbs. equal .360 atm. 691.0 ft. equal 209 meters. 



5.203.8 " " 354 " 703.3 " " 213 

 5,071.5 " " :545 " 



The same load in Creedmoor shells, Winchester No. 2 primer: 



5.380.2 lbs. equal 366 atm. 691 .0 ft. equal 209 meters. 



5.600.7 " " 381 " 786.9 " " 218 



5.909.4 " " 402 " 696.9 " " 211 



ANGLING NOTES. 



Forest and Stream as an Educator. 



Only a few weeks ago I pointed out in these columns 

 that boards of supervisors had it in their power to protect 

 black bass during the month of June; protection that the 

 State law denies them, although they spawn through the 

 entire month. The note was copied into a Warren county- 

 paper and the supervisors of the county were urged to 

 take action upon the suggestion at their meeting then 

 near at hand. One of the first things they did when they 

 assembled was to introduce a resolution making a close 

 season for black bass in all the waters of Warren county 

 from January first to July tenth. The extra ten days 

 beyond what was advocated in FOREST and Stream, 

 namely, January first to July first, will benefit the fish 

 undoubtedly, but it will cause some confusion, doubtless, 

 as other counties, so far as they have shortened the season, 

 have fixed upon July first as the opening day for black 

 bass fishing. I suggested this to one of the supervisors and 

 he adopted the suggestion. 



Catching versus Stocking. 



During the past few years occasional notices may have 

 been seen in the country papers that such and such lakes 

 have been restocked with black bass by the jDlanting of 

 a certain number of bass weighing from one-quarter to 

 one-half pound each. I have in mind one such lake that 

 was restocked with 200 bass, and this is a big plant as they 

 average. For a year or two the bass furnished by the 

 State have run in numbei-s to each applicant from 60 to 

 800 and formerly the number was much smaller. Of 

 course the waters are improved by just so many fish, but 

 they will not restock the lakes if June fishing is per- 

 mitted. 



There is another view of the case besides the June fish- 

 ing. Last week I went into the smoking car of a railway 

 train to smoke a cigar and found a lawyer distinguished 

 all over the State and who is as fond of fishing as he is 

 versed in law. AVhen our cigars were lighted the con- 

 versation turned to fish and fishing and among other 

 things he told me that one day last season while fishing 

 with a friend in the same boat on the St. Lawrence they 

 caught together 235 black bass. At night there was a 

 question as to who caught the greater number of the fish 

 and it was decided to try it again the next day, each man 

 in a separate boat. My friend caught 163 black bass that 

 weighed 207 lbs. and his friend caught 188, weight not 

 given, or a total of 346 bass in one day and 581 in two 

 days, or about, judging from weight given of one lot. 725 

 pounds of fish. As he told how he caught all his fish on 

 a single hook, and that hook as good as new after t^vo 

 days' fishing; and how his friend took an unfair advantage, 

 considering that it was a fishing match, and used a bait 

 hook with minnows and above it a fly on the leader, and 

 in this way made 21 double catches, I became so interested 

 in this recital that I forgot to ask what he did with so 

 many fish. As I look back now I realize that I neglected 

 to put a very important question to him. If he owned a 

 fish market I could imderstand what became of the fish, 

 but as he is a lawyer I am still in the dark concerning the 

 disposal of over a quarter of a ton of black bass. How- 

 ever, another question arises: W^ill 200 black bass per 

 annum do more toward stocking a lake 36 miles long, 

 than 581 much larger black bass taken in two days from 

 the St. Lawrence will do toward unstocking that stream. 



A Story About Two Mascalonge. 



While my lawyer friend was yet telling us of his black 

 bass fishing he incidentally mentioned that after years of 

 fishing in the St. Lawrence he never had captured a 

 mascalonge. I considered it a pertinent question to ask 

 how it came about then that not long ago two masca- 

 longe were exhibited in the city where he lives, and duly 

 chronicled in the newspapers as being the fruit of his 

 skill as an angler. That did not phase him in the least; 

 he only laughed and said: "I only claimed that I 

 'hooked' them, and now I wiU tell you the truth. I stole 

 them. I found a net set contrary to law, where I had 

 previously found others and destroyed them, and in it 

 were two mascalonge of about twenty-five pounds each. 

 I hooked out the two big fish, cut the net in pieces, and 

 let the other fish in the pound escape." A. N, Cheney, 



FROZEN FISH THAWED OUT. 



Boston, Mass., Nov. 19. — Some years ago a friend made 

 up a party for a day at ice-fishing in Laconia, N. H. Pro- 

 curing a good supply of bait at the Quincy Market (I am 

 not certain whether they were "mummyclmgs" or 

 shiners) he took a late train and spent the night at a hotel. 

 Next morning was a perfect fishing day with the single ex- 

 ception of the thermometer being 28° below zero. As there 

 was no wind and they were ardent lovers of this winter 

 sport they soon found themselves on the ice, notwith- 

 standing the cold. Having cut a few holes through sev- 

 eral feet of ice they decided to bait up, but met with a 

 disappointing obstacle in finding that the contents of their 

 bait can had become tired of waiting and had frozen solid. 

 As nothing was to be gained by standing on the ice they 

 returned to the hotel, and, for experiment, put the can on 

 the stove to thaw, which it soon did. To their surprise a 

 large number of the fish were swimming around as if 

 nothing out of the way had happened. All the fish were 

 then put into a tank with running water in it where all 

 that had been doubtful of recovery were soon as well as 

 the others. I wish I were sure that the fi.sh were not 

 "mummys" as, if they were, the above would not be at 

 all strange. 



The other_ case was when a jar of fish was sent to the 

 house in which my mother was staying while in France. 

 As it was too late to cook them when they arrived, the 

 cook left them outside the window thinking that they 

 needed plenty of air. During the night the thermometer 

 dropped to several degrees below freezing, and, very 

 naturally, the contents of the can were a chunk of ice im 

 the morning. This the cook reported with great conster- 

 nation, but was told to put the can on the stove and see 

 how it worked. This he did, and left it until almost en- 

 tirely free from ice, when he took it off and found the fish 

 in perfect health. 



As regards leaving fish out of water until they freeze 

 solid and then thawing them, I have tried it many times^ 

 myself and they have never lived. This is, I believe, due 

 to the fact that their kmgs are devoid of water at the: 

 time, although I am not at all certain. J. H. B. 



Silver Bay, Lake George, N. Y., Nov. 28.— In the lat- 

 ter part of October I went out for a day's fishing with 

 Capt. Harris of the steamer Ticonderoga. Early in the 

 forenoon we caught a few perch, which froze almost as 

 soon as we got them in the boat. About 3 o'clock in the 

 afternoon Capt. Harris suggested putting on one of our 

 perch and trolling. This we did, spinning him on an or- 

 dinary gang. After trolling about half an hour we took 

 in the line and found that the perch had revived and was 

 flopping quite vigorously. H. S. Paine. 



Waltham, Mass. — Last winter while catching chubs for 

 live bait I caught a small salt water perch or cunner. He 

 was kept alive for over two months in a cold outhouse. 

 Every night the water, fish and all, would freeze to a 

 solid cake, every day he would be melted out, and in a 

 short while be as lively as ever. He must have been 

 frozen and thawed out at least forty times without the 

 slightest injury to him. FONTINALIS. 



Groton Oil and Bullheads. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



I noticed with deep interest an item in your journal off 

 the remarkable catch of two fishes on one hook at one 

 time. 



I have had an experience in this direction, only a little 

 more so. It was back in the early seventies that good old 

 Deacon WiUiam H. Phillips of Chagrin Falls, O., and the 

 writer, went one balmy evening in May to the head of 

 Adams & Co.'s pond to angle for the festive bullhead. 



It was late when we arrived, and, after baiting up, set- 

 ting our rods and building a fire, we opened the lunch 

 basket and made way with its contents, after which we 

 lighted our pipes and took a smoke, conversing the while 

 on the degeneracy of the times, the cussedness of inani- 

 mate things and matters in general. 



Elnocking the ashes out of our pipes we went to our 

 rods and pulled up, when a very great surprise was in 

 store for us. Deacon Phillips had thirteen bullheads 

 strung on his line and I had twelve. 



We had used fat pork for bait, and, hearing that the oil 

 of rhodium would attract fish, we went to a drug store 

 and purchased a supply, which was freely poured on the 

 bait. An analysis showed that the druggist's clerk had . 

 made a mistake and sold us croton oil. 



This incident was related at the meeting of the Ameri- 

 can Fisheries Society in Detroit in 1891 by Hon. A. 0. 

 Williams, at the time Fish Commissioner of Ohio, and I 

 regret to say that it was received with doubt, if not de- 

 rision, but good old Deacon PhiUips, well along in the 

 eighties, is still alive and active in both mind and body, 

 and you cannot make him mad quicker than to smile 

 when this remarkable incident is related. Fly Fisher. 



Put-in-Bay, C, September, 1893. 



Izaak Walton Club. 



LOCKPORT, N. Y., Nov. 23.— This place boasts another 

 anglers' club recently formed called the Izaak Walton- 

 Club. I was the guest of Mr. Hustin at their lodge om 

 Lake Ontario, Four-Mile Point, four miles east of Youngs- 

 town. It is an ideal home for the fisherman and is loved 

 equally well by the bass. Fully 1,000 of the gamy beau- 

 ties have been captured on the grass beds, 300yd8. frona. 

 shore, during this season. On Oct. 4 W. E. Hustin and 

 William H. Case, expert anglers of Lockport, put in a 

 fall day's fishing there. They captured 29 black basa. 

 Mr. Hustin captured 10 of these and twice landed tvsjoi anH 

 a time. Of the first pair one weighed 2ilbs. andl the 

 other 3ilbs. M. H.. H. 



Some Michigan Fishing Notes.. 



Central Lake, Mich., Dec. 1.— The herrings visited 

 our river after their usual fashion somewhere - about the 

 12th of the month. I was sick in Grand Rapids at the 

 time and did not see them. 



The trout fishing hereabouts was very poor last sum- 

 mer. My luck was about the same as that of "VonW.," 

 I caught about half a dozen. I think that overfishing and 

 the non-observance of the jsix-inch law. explains the 

 wherefore. 



There see.tned to be a disease among the black bass last' 

 summer which also affected the sunfish. Many were- 

 ^ en dead. No explanation is offered. Kelpie. 



