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FOREST AND STREAM. 



[Dec. 16, 1893. 



S. S. powder, adrs., IJ^oz. shot No. 7, in Smokeless shells: 

 Bursting Strain. Velocity. 



7,805 7 11)8. equal 5:11 atm. 818.10 ft. equal 248 meters. 



The same load in Climax shells with bhck powder priming: 



^.m H ll)s. equal 429 atm. 789.=! ft. equal aS9 meters. 



7,011.9 " " 477 " m 4 " •■ 243 



Thp forey;o{ng tahie shows that only four of the powdprs 

 tested will stand black powder priming, and that the 

 bursting strains of both the No. 3 primer and the com- 

 mon shell, primed with black ponder, are about the 

 same, where^ts the velocities of tiie No. 3 primer are 

 superior to those of the common primer. 



The DuPonfs S. S. and both Walsrode powders de 

 veloped velocities sufficiently high to warrant a good 

 killing power; they can therefore, if necessary, be used 

 for hve bird as well as for artihcial target shooting, but 

 the velocities obtained with both Schultze, E, C. and 

 American wood powders only justify the use of these 

 powdeis in common shells primed with black powder for 

 artificial targi ts. To use them also for Jive birds would 

 be equivalent with cruelty to animals. 



All powdt-rs were again tested at Carney's Point for 

 pattern. The gun and barrel us< d was a 12-l)r>re choke. 

 Distance between muzzle of gun and target 40y( Is. The 

 shot charges — 366 pellets No. 7, equal to Hoz.— were 

 loaded witli the shot counter or trowel. All shots fired 

 from muzzle r< bt. The figures qtiote'l in the following 

 table represent the number of pellets counted in each case 

 within the 30iu. select circle. 



Table K.— Pattern Test. 

 3drs. E. C. powder. shot No. 7. in Smol'eles-s shells: 



187 ^4:j 3J4 217 19^-1083 Average pellets 216; var. 57; cor vel. 816ft, 

 3drs. Schultze powder (Pompton), Ifguz. shot No. 7, in Smokeless^ 

 shells: 



176 111 175 205 207- 874 Average pellets 175; var. 96; cor. vel. 865ft. 

 - 3drs. Schultze powder, IJ^oz. shot No 7. in Sinokeless shells: 



203 329 187 211 200 -108a Average pellets 206: var. 42; cor. vel. 795ft. 

 32sr8. Walsrode It-af powder, li^oz. shot No. 7, in Vit-nna shells: 



169 159 176 197 171 872 Average pellets 174; var 58; cor. vel. 871 ft 

 SIgra sa-nf powder, same shot and shells: 



178 172 166 171 200 -890 Averag. pelleis 178; var. 34; cor. vel 842ft 

 29era. Walsrode powd , sraa., IJ^oz. shot No. 7, in Bischweiler shells: 



17.1 188 172 194 183-907 Average pellets 181; var. 24; cor vel. 8I2ft. 

 3drs, American wood ponder, IJ^oz. shot No. 7, in Smokeless shells: 



261 218 247 251 109—1119 Average pellets 221; var. 152; cor. vel. 747ft. 

 ?drs. S. S. powder IJ^oz. shotNo 7, in Smoi<eIess shells: 



169 158 189 221 206 953 Average pellets 189; var. 16i; cor. vel. 734ft 

 2%di s DuPont's smokeless powder, IJ^oz. shot No. 7, in Smokeless 

 shells: 



214 190 171 192 177—944 Average pellets 189; var. 43; cor. vel 838ft. 



In view of the fact that low velocities generally pro- 

 duce highly satisfactory pattern, in judgint; and compar- 

 ing the pattern the corr spmding velocities must always 

 be taken into consi.leration. Applying this rule to the 

 results -enumerated in Tal>le K, E C, DuPonfs smoke- 

 less, Walsrode leaf powder (3lgrd.) and Schultze (Pomp- 

 ton) powder make, with about even values. tiie b< st show- 

 ing. S hultze powder did well in point of pattern, bat 

 the velocities are somewhat low and the patterns are 

 irregular. It takes, therefore, together with Walsrode 

 gram powder, the S"Cf>nd place. S. S. and American 

 wood powder are out of competition, since the velocities 

 of both are below the requisite limit. The next table 

 shows the time required by tiit diff' rent pow ders between 

 the moment of the pulling of the trigger and the moment 

 the shot quits the muzzle of the gun, or in other words, 

 how much quicker the ignition and combustion of the 

 powder charge is brought about with the No. 3 primer 

 than with the common primer. 



Although thes'- differences only move in fractions of a 

 second, they are nevertheless of importance in shooting 

 at fast moving game, especially if we bear in mind tiiat 

 the pellets of a shot charge never reach their destination 

 simiiltaneously. The chances of hitting a moving object 

 are influenced by the slower or quicker burning of the 

 powder irret^pective of the primer and by the irregular 

 arrival of the pellets. If in addition to these two last 

 named factors, the ignition and combustion of the powder 

 is delayed on account of a weak primer, then, indeed, the 

 gunner will find himself handicapped to a great extent, 

 if he leads for instmce, a quartering bird in the usual 

 manner. For this reason, the strong primer causing a 

 quick, sure and thorough transformation of the powder 

 into life energy, is preferable to the common primer for 

 the use of niiro powders. 



Table L.— Primer Test. 



The figures opposite the different makes of shells repre- 

 sent the time which elapsed in every case between pulling 

 the trigger and the moment the shot charge left the 

 muzzle of the gun: 



DuPont's Smokeless powder, service charge. \%oz. shot No. 7, loaded 



in F, ev RhHlls- ' 



0 0521 sec. 

 0.0495 sec. 

 0 0917 sec. 

 0.0178 sec. 



Av. 0.0469 sec. 



Av. 



Av. 

 Av. 



Av. 



0.04T9 sec. 

 0.0616 sec. 

 0.0464 sec. 

 0.0493 sec. 

 0.0515 sec. 



Av. 0.0493 sec. 



in Elev shells: 

 1. 0.0-158 sec. 3. 0.0428 sec. 3. 

 The same load in Kynoch shells: 



1. 0 0523 sec. 2, 0 0119 sec. 3. 

 The same load in Bachmano shells: 



1. 0.0489 sec. 3. 0.0H3 sec. 3. 

 The same load in Smokeie^s shells: 



1 0 0147 sec. 2, 0 il4H9see. 3. 

 The same load in Nitro Club shells: 



1. 0.0460 sec. 2 0 05 5 sec. 3. 0.0465 sec. Av. 

 The same load in Winchester Rival No. 3: 



1. 0.0109 sec 2 0 0.507 sec. 3. 0.0570 sec. 

 The same load in U. S. Rapid shells: 



1. 0.0161 see. 2. 0 0553 sec. 3. 0.0465 sec. 

 Schuhze powder, service charge, IJgoz. S'lot No. 7, loaded in Eley 

 shells: 



1. 0 0523 sec. 2. 0.0.553 see. 3. 0 0564 sec. Av. 0 0546 sec. 

 The sa l e load In Kynoeh shells: 



1. 0 0411 sec. 2. 0 0569 sec. 3. 0.0519 sec. 

 The same load in Baehm .nn shells: 



1. 0.0a53sec. 2. 0.0.-)48 sec. 3. 0.0559 sec. 

 The same load in Climax shells: 



1 0.0828 Sf-c. 2. 0.0913 sec 



The same load In Winchester Rival No. 2. common: 



1. 0.1153 sec. 2. 0.1192 .see. 3. 0.1370 sec. 

 The same load in Nltro Club shells; 



1. 0.0627 sec. 2. 0.0573 sec. 3. 0.0594 sec. 

 The t>ame 'ond in Smokeless shells: 



1- 0.05 '6 see. 2. 0 0543 sec. 3. 0 0522 sec. 

 The same load in Wmchester Rival No 3: 



1. 0. 05(36 sec. 2. 0.0629 sec. 3. 0.0614 sec. 

 The same load in U. S Ha|)icl shells: 



1. 0.0587 sec. 3. OU7llsec. H. 0.0874 sec. 

 The same I ad in Cr edmoor shells, Winchester No 2 primer- 



1. 0.0794 eo. 3. 0.088J sec 3 0.0 98 Sec. Av. 0 0827 sec. 

 Suhiiltze p,)« der (Pompton), service charge, 1)4, iz. shot No. 7. loaded 

 m Itle.v 8 el's: 

 1. 0 0.378 sec. 2. 



Av. 

 Av. 

 Av, 

 Av. 

 Av. 

 Av, 

 Av. 

 Av. 



0.0499 sec. 

 0.0553 sec. 

 0.0870 sec. 

 0.1238 sec. 

 0.0598 sec. 

 0.0533 sec. 

 0.0603 sec. 

 O.Oee sec. 



The sarof load in Climax shells: 



1. 0.0810 sec 2. 0 0961 sec Av. 0.0«85 sec. 



The same load in Smokeless shells: 



1. 0 0543 sec. 2. 0.05^6 sec. 3. 0.0449 sec. Av. 0.0509 sec. 

 The same lopd in Nitro Club shells: 



1. 0.0642 sec. 2. 0.0548 sec. 3. 0.0568 sec. Av. 0.0586 sec. 

 The sam" load in Winchester Eival No. 8: 



1. 0.0683 sec. 2. 0.0746 sec. 3. 0.0659 sec. Av. 0.0695 sec. 

 The i^ame load in U. S Rapid shells: 



1. 0 07:32 sec. 2. 0 0738 sec. .3. 0 0787 sec. Av. 0.0752 sec. 

 The .same load in Creedmoor shells, Winchei^ter No. Sprimer: 



1. 0 0934 sec. 2. 0.0864 sec. 3. 0.0933 sec. Av. 0.0910 sec. 



loaded in 



3. 0.0401 sec. Av. 0.0413 sec. 



Av. 0.0398 sec. 



Av. 0.0434 sec. 

 Av. 0.0649 sec. 



Av. 0.0646 sec. 

 Av. 0.0460 sec. 



Av, 0.0617 sec. 



Atnerican wood powder, service charge, IJ^oz. shot No. 

 Elev shells: 



1. 0 04:33 sec. 2. 0.0407 sec. 

 The same load in Kynoch shells: 



1. 0.0.301 sec. 2. 0.04:^,6 sec. 3. 0 0458 sec. 

 The same load in Bachmann shells: 



1, 0 0440 sec. 2. 0 0463 sec. 3, 0.0401 sec. 

 The same load in Climax shells: 



1. 0.1658 sec. 2. 0.0640 sec 



The same load in Winches' er Rival, common: 



1. 0.0689 sec. 2, 0.0678 860. 3. 0.0571 sec. 

 The same load in Smokeless shells: 



1, 0 0456 sec. 2. 0.0.5-^8 .-ec. 3. 0.0396 sec. 

 The same load in Ni'ro Club shells: 



1. 0.0648 sec 2. 0.0014 sec. 3. 0.0591 sec. 

 The same load in Winches' er Rival No. 3: 



1. 0 05.34 sec. 2. 0.0.540 sec. 3. 0.0592 sec. Av. 0.0555 sec. 

 The same load in VS. S. Rapid shells: 



1. 0 0611 sec. 2. 0 0587 sec. 3. 0 07:37 sec. Av. 0.0645 sec. 

 The same load in Creedmonr shells, Winchester No. 3 primer: 



1. 0.0681 sec. 2, 0 0732 sec. 3, 0 0607 sec. Av 0.0673 sec, 

 E. C. powder, service charge, l^oz. shot No. 7, loaded in E'ey shells: 



1. 0 0667 sec. 2. 0.0608 sec 3. 0.0620 sec, Av. 0 0633 sec. 

 The same load in Kynoch shells: 



1. 0 0618 sec. 2 0.0601 sec 3. 0.0613 sec, Av. 0.0610 sec. 

 The same load in Bachmann shells: 



2, 0 0575 Sec 2 0 0598 sec. 3. 0.0584 sec. Av. 0.0585 sec. 

 The same load in Climax shells: 



1. 0.0769 sec. 2. 0 0:86 sec Av. 0.0777 sec. 



The so load in Winchester Rival, common: 



1. (.08 6 sec. 2 0 09.56 sec. 3. 0.0789 sec. Av, 0.0873 sec. 

 the sa.i.e oad in Smokele.-s shells: 



1. 0.0622 sec. 3. 0 0542 sec, 8. 0.0518 sec, Av. 0.0500 sec. 

 The same load in Nitro Club shells: 



1. 0*^573 see. 3. 0 0548 sec. 3. 0.0589 sec. Av. 0.0570 sec. 

 The same load in Winehfster Rival No. 3r 



1. 0,0534 sec. 2. 0 0584 sec 3. 0.0698 sec. Av, 0.0605 sec. 

 The same load In U. S. Rapid.shells: 



1. 0.0858 sec. 2. 0.07:39 sec. 3. 0.0731 sec. Av, 0 0776 sec. 

 The same load in Winchester No, 2 primer. Creedmoor shells: 



2. 0 0S91 sec. 2. 0.0809 sec. 3. 0.0913 sec. Av. 0.0871 sec. 



S. S. powder, service charge. IJ^oz, shot No, 7, in Eley shells- 

 1. O O508s.'C. 2. 0.0.515 sec. 3. 0.0544 sec. Av. 0 0542 si 



Av. 



The same load in Kynoch shells; 



1 0.0.378 sec. 3. 0.0613 sec. 3. 0,0531 sec. 

 The same load in Bachmann shells: 



1. 0.0409 ^ec. 3. 0.0541 sec. 3. 0.0,598 sec. 

 The same load in Climax shells: 



1. 0.0;50sec. 2. 0.0692 sec 



The same load in Winchester Rival, common: 



1. 0.0878 stc. 2. 0 0842 sec. 3. 0 0936 sec. 

 The satne load in Smokeless shells: 



1. 0.0545 sec. 2. 0 0558 .'■ec. 3. 0,0.599 sec. 

 The same load in Nitro Club shells: 



1. .0616 sec. 2. 0 0613 sec. 3. 0.8606 sec. 

 The same load In Winchester Rival. No. 3: 



1. 0 0692 860. 2. 0 0,599 sec. 3. 0.0596 sec. 

 The same load in. U. S. Rapid shells: 



' 0.0724 sec. 2. 0 0697 sec. 3. 0.00.34 sec. 

 The same load in Creedmoor shells, Winciiester No. 



2. 0 0880 See. 2. 0 0718 sec. 3. 0.0777 sec. 

 Walsrode leaf powder, Smokeless shells: 



1. 0.0575 sec. 2. 0.0678 sec. 3. 0.0527 sec. 

 The same load in Vienna shells: 



1. 0,0445 sec - 2. 0.04:36 sec. 3. 0.0463 sec. 

 Walsrode grain powder, smokeless shells; 



' 0.0497 sec. 3. 0.0452 sec. 3. 0.0409 sec. 

 The same load in Bischweil shells: 

 1. 0.0480 sec. 2, 0.0493 sec. 3. 0.0478 sec. 



Judging and comparing the result of the test as given 

 in Table L, we must consider all points at issue through a 

 ballistic glass and examine at the same time the figures of 

 the povt-der test in Chicago and at Carney's Point, permit- 

 ting a conclusion as regards the nature and qualities of 

 the strong primer If we do so, we come to the conclu- 

 sion that the strong primer is decidedly preferable to the 

 common primer for the use of nitro powders. We also 

 learn that the Smokeless shell takes the Krst place among 

 all the American shells and is unsurpassed by any im- 

 ported shell. Both the U. S, Eapid and Winchester 

 Rival No. 3 show meritorious points, and prove that but 

 very little is required to make them suitable for all nitro 

 powders; they are quite adapted for some nitro powders 

 even in their present state. 



sec, 



0,0574 sec, 



Av. 0.0517 sec, 



Av. 0.0721 sec. 



Av. 0.0885 sec. 



Av. 0.0570 sec. 



Av. 0.0811 sec, 



Av, 0.0629 sec. 



Av. 0.0685 sec. 

 i primer: 

 Av. 0.0791 sec. 



Av. 0.0593 sec. 



Av. 0.0448 sec. 



Av. 0 0452 sec. 



Av. 0.0483 sec. 



Corrections. 



The figures pertaining to the test for bursting strain 

 and quoted in Table G in our last issue, show errors in 

 several instances. The table as corrected and revised is 

 here repeated ; 



Bursting strain test with slightly increased powder charges. 

 3i^dr8, DuPout smokeless powder, IJ^^oz. shot No, 7: 



12,g;36.0 lbs. equal 880 atm. 

 84gr8. Walsrode leaf powder, l^^oz. shot No 7: 

 11,166.0 lbs. equal 780 atm. 

 34grs, "Walsrode powder, granul ited IJ^oz. shot No. 7: 



11,745.3 lbs equal 799 atm, 

 3i^drs. Schultze powder, 1 J^oz. shot No. 7: 



7,982.1 lbs, equal 543 atm, 

 SJ^drs. Schultze powder (Pompton). IJ^oz. shot No, 7; 



11,510.0 lbs. equal 783 atm. 

 3i^drs. American wood powder, l^-^oz. shot No. 7: 

 7 188 3 lbs. equal 4ii9 atm, 

 I, S,S. powder, IJ^oz. shot No. 7: 



11,818.8 lbs. equal 804 atm. 

 3^drs. E. C. powder, lj.^07. shot No. 7: 



8,379.0 lbs. equal 570 atm. 

 34grs. Walsrode leaf powder in Smokeless shells, IJ^oz. shot No. 7- 

 11,107.2 los, equal 760 atm. 



Kansas Quail for Pennsylvania. 



A aiEKTiNa was held recently in Reading to devise 

 measures for stocking the covers of Pennsylvynia with 

 quail, A committee of 15 was appointed to solicit sub- 

 scriptions for the purpose. The members chosen were: 

 William SeitziDger, Peter Texter, C, W. Potteiger, J. K, 

 Getz, James Smeck, Frank Swartz. Fred, Gerhart, A. C. 

 Buck waiter, all of Reading; W. D Filbert. Womelsdorf; 

 Thomas Bucher, Boyertown; Oscar Melot, Fleetwood; 

 James Gougler, Leesport: G, M, Rick, Bethel; L, H. 

 Focht, Birdsboro. The following committee was ap- 

 pointed to purchase birds, receive them when shipped and 

 provide a place for keeping them until spring: A. C. 

 Buckwalter, Frank Yost, George Eitter, Fred. Curtis and 

 George Scheele. 



The birds wiU be distributed p7'o rata to subscribers. 

 The quail will probably be secured from Chas. Payne of 

 Wichita. Kans,, who has advised the Pennsylvania im- 

 porters that he can supply any quantity up to l.OOOdoz., 

 at $4 per dozen. 



Herbert Green's motion that it be the sense of the meet- 

 ing to refrain from further shooting in the county during 

 the remainder of the season was overwhelmingly de- 

 feated. Those present organized themselves as the Berks 

 County Gunning and Fishing Protective Association. 



A correspondent writes; "It seems to me that there 

 must be something rotten when Charles Payne, of Wi- 

 chita, Kansas, i an offer to furnish any number of birds 

 desired, from one pair to one thousand dozen quail. I 

 am all for the protection and the propai;atiim of quail and 

 other game birds, but I do not believe in helping to deplete 

 any portion of the United States. If Charles Payne's 

 offer was not so astoundingly unlimited I would not have 

 SrHid a word. Will yuu cast some fight on this matter? 

 My opinion is that it would be far better if the members 

 present at the Reading meeting had vot( d for Mr. Herbert 

 Green's moti<jn instead of knocking it out. The example 

 set by the Pittsburgh Gun Club in unanimously passing a 

 resolution not to kill any more quail in the State during 

 the present season is to be highly commended, and could 

 be followe-d by all other similar organization in Pennsyl- 

 vania witn advantage to our future prospects." 



Red Deer for America. 



Mr. W. H. Root, the importer, exporter and dealer in 

 living wild animals, of Laramie, Wyo., tells us that he 

 has just sold to Mr. Austin Corbin seventeen European red 

 red — fifteen females and two males. They will be shipped 

 m April or May by the White Star Line from Liverpool to 

 New York; and are destined lor Mr. Corbin's Blue island 

 Park in New Hampshire. There are alreadv within the 

 27,000 acre inclosure, 400 elk, 300 deer, with 40 buffalo and 

 about as many moose. 



Yellowstone Park Game. 



A PARTY recently out from Fort Yellowstone in the 

 National Park saw about 40 buffalo near Twin Buttes; 

 anotlier party saw 23 in the Hayden Vallev. The last 

 party also saw a herd of about 1,000 elk in Hayden Val- 

 ley, one of whici) had a rope on him and was very tame. 

 Another big baud of elk estimated at oOO was recently 

 seen back of Electric Peak. 



Woodland Caribou in Montana. 



Jennings, Montana, Nov. 22.— Edito7' Forest and Stream: 

 Please send me the Forest and Stream of Oct. 14 con- 

 taining portrait of the moose. Have just got Nov. 11 

 issue with fine portrait of woodland caribou. Quite a 

 number of the latter are yet to be found in this section of 

 country. ■ L. O. M. 



The Forest and Stream is put to press each iveek on Tues- 

 day. Correspondence intended for publication should reach 

 us at the latest by Monday, and as much earlier as practicable. 



0 0599 sec, 3. 0 0718 sec, 

 if'h shel's: 



0.0711 sec. 3. 0.0698 sec. 

 The Sdme load hi Bachmann shells: 



1. 0.0642 Sec. 2. 0,060i^ec. 3. 0.0517 sec. 



The same load in Kyo 

 1. 0.07;j9 8ec. 2. 



Av 0.0831 sec, 

 Av. 0.0716 sec, 

 Av. 0.0589 sec. 



Michigan Babbits and Ferrets. 



Irving, Mich., Dec, 4.— Editor Forest and Stream: Is 

 there a law in this State (Michigan) forbidding the use of 

 ferrets in hunting rabbits? Some say there is, some not. I 

 looited out of my sitting room window Sumlay and saw 

 three men returning from a rabbit hunt. The first car- 

 rieda bo. for the ferret, tHe^2her^wohad^sti;-k,^on 



ocures the shiny silver 

 pooa hooks, highly 

 . with considerable 



1 J.1 c J! ,,. 1, :.~ — " enjuuiavT by a veteran lakesman of my acquaintance "fish 



there is no law, then if some of your Michigan readers will alarms'' ^ cixiiucmuc uau 



assist we will endeavor to have one. J. C. Y, 



HOW TO CATCH PICKEREL. 



It is well known that the pickerel has neither the stub- 

 born fighting power of the black bass nor the lightning 

 activity and gameness of the trout, but he is a splendid 

 fish nevertheless. Few amateur, yes, for that matter, few 

 prosessional fishermen ever discover the truly successful 

 way to land the best fish in any waters. Study of the 

 habits, foot! and lurking places of any fish is necessary for 

 a painstaking angler who would make the most of his op- 

 portunity. 



Bait-fishing has long been favored by conservative- 

 sportsmen and backwoodsmen. They have always fished 

 in that way and shun improvements and resent innova- 

 tions. You cannot call the attention of such a man to the 

 fact that fully seventy per cent, of the fish that sirike get 

 off; that many others slyly steal the bait and leave him 

 with an empty hook without once tautening the line; that 

 live bait are a nuisance, har<l to procure and very short- 

 lived. It is no use. He prefers to broil in the sun and 

 feed ungrateful but sophisticated pickered which lie under 

 the lily-pads and dine at his expense. 



Trolling is par excellence the real way to fish. Neither 

 skittering with a spoon or bit of dead fish, nor still-fish- 

 ing, nor bait-casting can be compared with it. It is restful, 

 exciting and profitable to a high degree. But if you troll 

 you must have some lure. Here again the conservative 

 man doggedly comes to the front with a piece of perch 

 strung on a gang of hooks that trail out behind like so 

 many ice tongs. He will not believe that the pickerel see 

 through his little game, and that though he may deceive 

 a few small ones, their older brothers will winkingly 

 scorn his wilted cai-rion. 



The over-progressive man on the other hand frequents 

 the shops ever on the lookdut for some new patent bait. 



['"here is no law whatever on rabbits in Michigan.] 



Of course any one who has ever used a trolling spnon 

 I will never return to bait and will grow to love the aim 



