April 21, 1894.] 



FOREST AND STREAM. 



846 



Modern Yachts as Sea Boats. 



The question of the sea-going qualities of the modern racing yacht 

 has been generally discussed among yachtsmen for some time, and 

 with no definite conclusion, the opinion of many being that the new 

 type, with forefoot cut away and mast stepped well forward, is much 

 inferior to the older craft built prior to 1887. The Yachtsman, in 

 opposing the present rating rule of the Y. R. A., has strongly con- 

 demned the later yachts, and in particular has criticised the perform- 

 ance of Queen Mab and Valkyrie in their passage across the Atlantic. 

 The following letter to that paper is particularly interesting as com- 

 ing from an old sailor, Admiral Montague, who presumably shares 

 the prejudices of most deep water sailors in favor of the ideal "ship" 

 as opposed to the racing machine. A long experience at sea in uaval 

 vessels, supplemented by an extensive experience in yacht racing, 

 fully qualifies the writer to criticise the qualities of a vessel; and as 

 to the new yachts in particular, Admiral Montague has built in suc- 

 cession the three 40-raters Corsair, Vendetta and the new Carina. 

 Editor nf the Yachtsman: 



I see you have another crack at the seaworthiness of the modern 

 racer, for in your last number you state "that even in the height of 

 summer their owners may cousider their vessels ill adapted to a short 

 North Sea voyage ." This is rather strong. As a matter of fact, the 

 distance is about 700 to 750 miles from the upper Thames to Kiel; from 

 the Skaw down to Kiel it is more or less landlocked, if I recollect my 

 Baltic campaign days rightly, so that open sea without shelter cannot 

 extend more than 350 miles Did you notice, sir, the weather Britannia 

 encountered down Channel, and afterward in the Chops, when she had 

 to run for shelter into Plymouth owing to a gale of hurricane force? 

 and quite right, too. Would your old cruiser have got to Plymouth 

 even? I doubt it She would have gone on pile driving, trying to get 

 around Portland Bill or the Start, lying to half the time, bagging like 

 a sack; and as for your racing vessel of the crniBer type ever reaching 

 Marseilles to race and arrive in time, it is perfectly ridiculous to 

 assume such a contention. 



I own that for lying to in a gale I should prefer the old-fashioned 

 cruiser, or the Brixham trawler, so as to "ride it out" like an old sea 

 dog. But then, I want to get to Marseilles by a certain date, and I do 

 it, I get there in spite of gales and head seas: you do not. Your ship 

 has either to lay to or to crawl along at half my speed. You lose your 

 races, I win them because I can get there, in time. 



As you have often allowed me to state so previously, I will state 

 again, racing craft have always been, and will always be, designed 

 and built for utmost speed. Your cruisers you were so fond of were 

 built for speed before they became ex-racers They could not build 

 them faster because they did not know how to do it. I grant that 

 they laid to better in a gale owing to forefoot. What's the good of 

 only being able to lay to in a gale? Queen Mab had atrociouB weather 

 and weathered it somehow with an inexperienced skipper and a crew 

 ignorant of Queen Mab's peculiarities. Valkyrie had also a succes- 

 sion of bad weather and gales in crossing to America. The taste is 

 always the best proof of the pudding, arid I have instanced at least 

 three modern racers, all of which have weathered different degrees of 

 bad weather in crossing the perhaps worst stormy parts of the world's 

 seas. 



If, sir, your theory is that we are building a bad type of vessel for 

 racing to-day that will make an indifferent cruiser to-morrow because 

 your ship's cook cannot stand up in comfort in his galley owing to 

 want of head room, or the owner cannot store his wife's basket-trunk 

 under hatches, then I am, to a certain extent, with you. But we can 

 never go back to slower vessels for the want of headroom or the stow- 

 age of ladies' basket-trunks; uor yet because greater displacement in 

 the bows offers you a better ship to lay to with in your beloved gale, 

 with what are termed good sea-boat qualities. That the modern racer 

 will come to and fall off and get too much headway I verily believe, 

 while laying to; but you will always weather the point, which is far 

 more important. I have sailed and been in very bad weather in many 

 different types of vessels for many years of my life; luck goes a great 

 way, but the helm is everything in 99 cases out of 100. V. Montague. 



American Model Y. C. 



The annual meeting of the American Model Y. C. was held on April 

 6, the following officers being elected: Com., W.V.Hanson; Vice- 

 Corn., C. Van Ness; Treas.. G. W. Townley; Sec, Herbert Fisher; 

 Meas., Frank Nichols; Regatta Com., Messrs. Davis and Nichols. 



Messrs. Hanson, Grahn and Nichols were selected as a board of ex- 

 perts to decide on the eligibility of models of recent construction under 

 the % rule. Those who are ahout to build or are building, are required 

 to place in the hands of the board a drawing of midship section, also 

 stating the l.w.l., that they may decide as to whether the boat, if built, 

 will be allowed to compete under the rule in future races, thereby 

 giving the designers an opportunity to alter their plans to fit the re- 

 quirements of the rule. It is to be regretted that the model yacht 

 Neola will not start in any of the races this season, as her owner, Mr. 

 Q. E. Pfeiffer, has tendered his resignation, which has been accepted. 

 The % rule is assigned as the cause of his withdrawal from the club, 

 as it will no doubt debar his 3d class model yacht Ampere under the 

 rule. There are a number of other boats that will succumb to the % 

 axe. 



The opening races of the club will be sailed on May 30. It has not- 

 been decided as to whether they will be sailed on the Prospect Park 

 lake or at Communipaw, the salt-water station of the club. 



YACHT NEWS NOTES. 



The new 20-rater, designed by Will FfFe, Jr.. and building by C. 

 Hansen & Sons, Cowes, for A. Barclay Walker, will be named Thelma. 

 The Watson 20-rater building at the same yard for Prince Henry of 

 Battenberg will be named Asphodel. Another 20 is under way at 

 White's yard, Cowes, designed by C. P. Clayton for a syndicate, 

 including Prince Batthyany-Strattman, Count Andrassy and Paul 

 Ritter von Scholler. She will be named Stephanie. Lord Dun raven's 

 new 20, designed by himself, is building at Summers & Payne's yard, 

 Southampton, and Charles Nicholson, the designer of the unsuccess- 

 ful Vigorna for the Earl of Dudley last year, has a new 20 under way 

 at Camper & Nicholson's yard, Gosport, for the same owner. As 

 already stated, Lord Dunraven, after selling his last year's 20, 

 Deirdre, to the Earl of Lonsdale, has purchased the very successful 

 Dragon HT. of Mr. F. C. Hill, and has had her hauled up at Summers 

 & Payne's yard for alteration by the addition of a centerplate. The 

 20-raters thus far have been all keel craft and Dragon has been the 

 best of the lot; the experiment of converting a successful keel boat 

 into a centerboard craft is a novel one and the result is likely to be 

 important, as Lord Dunraven is certain to make the trial a thorough 

 one; and with some ten yachts in the class there will be every oppor- 

 tunity for ascertaining the merit of each. The experiments with the 

 cen f erboard in deep cutters, a3 made in Iverna, Dis and Queen Mab, 

 have been very unsatisfactory so far as yachtsmen in general are 

 concerned, however much the designers may have profited by them. 

 While Dragon is not the type of boat to be improved by a center- 

 board, and by no means what a desiguer familiar with centerboard 

 boats would turn out for the 20-rating class, the experiment will not 

 be without value. Deirdre will be raced in the class by her new 

 owner, and nearly as possible in last year's form, serving as a trial 

 horse. Dragon will be sailed by Charles Bevis, of Hamble, formerly 

 skipper for Mrs. Schenley in the smaller rating boat racing by her. 



A meeting of the New York Y. R. A. was held on April 13, with 

 Pres. Sutton in the chair. The proposed annual dinner on April 18, 

 was postponed indefinitely. The following resolution, offered by 

 Com. Prime, was adopted: "Resolved, That a committee of five dele- 

 gates be appointed to revise the constitution, by-laws and sailing rules 

 of the Association, and that thev submit to each club of the Associa- 

 tion on or before May 15, 1894, such chauges as they deem proper for 

 the club's approval, and request that such clubs pass on the same, 

 and give notice to such clubs that they will present such proposed 

 changes to the Association at a meeting to be held on June 22, 1894, 

 and that such committee report such changes to the Association at a 

 meeting to be held June 22. 1894," President Sutton appointed the 

 following committee: Com. A. J. Prime, Yonkers Corinthian Y. C; 

 Judge Charles E. Simms, Columbia Y. C; George E. Gartland, New 

 Jersey Y. C; Com. Norman L. Bowe, Pavonia Y. C. and N, Smith. 

 Canarsie Y. C. The application of the yachting department of the 

 Newark Bay Boat Club for membership was placed on file. A com- 

 mittee was appointed to purchase prizes for the winning yachts in 

 last year's regatta. 



The hearty patronage of the German Emperor is having a good 

 effect on yachting in German waters, and the present year promises 

 to be a notable one, the chief event being the racing- about the Baltic 

 between June 23 and July 2, of the Kaiserlicher Yacht. Club. The fleet 

 of 40-raters will be a strong one. including Irene, built three years 

 since from Watson's designs for Prince Henry of Prussia, Lais and 

 Varuna, lately sold to German owners, and a new Watson 40, Kom- 

 modore building by Schicau at Ebling. It is now proposed that the 

 English' fleet shall visit the Baltic instead of the usual trip to the 

 Clyde, the German yachts returning with them for Cowes week. Ad- 

 miral Montague is likely to take his new 40, Carina, to Kiel, and some 

 other British yachts will find their way there in all probability. 



The Ball von Kull Y. C. has elected the following officers: Com., 

 John Cronk; V~ice-Com., H. E, Buel; Rec. Sec. L. H. Defile; Fin. -Sec, 

 John Y. Caughey; Treas. Henry S. Vroom; Trustees, for two years, 

 David F. Simonson, Jacob I. Hoesman, W. H. Prall and Abram W. 

 Applegate; Trustees, for one year, Chas. 35. Griffith, Frederick Jehan, 



Chas. Notz, Geo. H. Dunham and Geo. Rose. At a meeting of the 

 trustees the following committees were appointed: Regatta, George 

 Ross, H. E. Buel, J. S. Donovan. Membership, H. E, Buel. Wm, H. 

 Prall, Chas. E. Griffith, House. A. W. Applegate, Abram Walsh, John 

 J. Caughey. Auditing, Wm. Prall, F. Gehan, Chas. Griffith. Bowling, 

 D. L. Simonson, E. J. Van Pelt. W. M. Lose. Billards and Pool, John 

 Cronk. Geo, Ochs, Geo. H. Tread well. The club is now at home in its 

 fine new house at Port Richmond. 



The Schoodic Y. C. has heen honored beyond any similar organiza- 

 tion in this country. Capt. Geo. Goodwin, of the ship Dirigo, a member 

 of the club, having expressed a wish to use the club colors as his pri- 

 vate signal, has been presented with a beautiful 30ft. flag made after 

 the design of the club pennant. This beautiful flag will wave over the 

 first iron ship ever built in the United States and will be carried by a 

 member of the Schoodic Y. C. to the most distant parts of the world. 

 The flag was purchased by Commodore Willard Pike and a few of the 

 active members and presented to Capt. Goodwin as a mark of then- 

 regard and good wishes, and hope it may be a mascot to himself and 

 his beautiful steel ship Dirigo, as well as a remembrance of his friends 

 on the St. Croix. — Daily St. Croix News. 



The yachtsmen west of Ontario have made a new effort for the 

 formation of a permanent, organization, and at a meeting on March 21 

 in Cleveland, the Interlake Yachting Association was organized, with 

 the following officers: Com., the Hon. George W. Gardner, Cleveland 

 Y. C; Vice-Corn., J. E. Gunckel, Ohio Y. O, Toledo; Rear-Corn., H. 

 C. Kendall, Citizens' Y. C, Detroit; Sec'y. -Treas., E. W. Radden, 

 Cleveland Y. O; Meas., W. A. Ladd, Put-in-Bay Y. C. ; Fleet Surgeon, 

 Dr. A. E. Claypool, Ohio Y. 0., Toledo; Race Committee, C. B. Lock- 

 wood, Sandusky Y. C, chairman; Wm. Gates, Toledo Y. O; C. J. 

 Lichtenberg, Detroit Y. C- A meet will be held at Put-in-Bay, Lake 

 Erie, with races on July 17-18, and a cruise starting on July 19. 



The third annual spring regatta of the Oak Point Y. C. will he sailed 

 on June 17, from off the club house, 149th street, Fast Biver, New 

 York. The courses will be: For sloops over 25ft., around Gangway 

 Buoy; 20 miles naut. For all smaller classes, around Stepping Stones 

 Light; 10 miles naut. The start will be made at 11 A. M., with 5 min- 

 utes to cross. Two handsome cups, similar to last year's Commo- 

 dore's cup, will be given for boats over 25ft. The prize for the 20ft. 

 cat class will be two lamps; for the 20 to 22ft. jib and mainsail class, a 

 set of yacht lights and a gold badge; for the 16 to 18ft. cat class, a sil- 

 ver-mounted punch bowl. The entries already number 28. 



The Corinthian Y. C. of San Francisco will open its fifth season with 

 a dinner on April 28 at the club house, Tiburon, with a squadron 

 cruise on the following day. Our list of fixtures shows that the club 

 has planned a busy season, in which short squadron cruises will be the 

 feature. The officers are: Com., T. F. Tracy; Vice-Corn., A. T. Lyons; 

 Sec'y, F. E. Baker; Treas., N. F. Dixey; Meas., F. Stone; Port Capt., 

 J. H. Keefe. Regatta Committee, J. R. Howell, W. H. Crowell, C. A. 

 Graham. 



The Bay Shore Y. O. has elected the following officers: Com., H. 

 M. Brewster; Vice-Corn., J. R. Howell; Rear-Corn., Edgar Reybert; 

 Treas.. Dr. E. S. Moore; Sec'y, Arthur Dominy; Meas., Josiah Rob- 

 bins. Regatta Committee— Henry L. Brown, John Daggett, S. C. 

 Hulse. House Committee— Harry S. Raven, Samuel B. Gibson, Ned 

 Dominy. The opening regatta will take place on June 13. 



On April 12, Capt. Cranfleld and twenty of Valkyrie's crew arrived 

 at New York on the Majestic and were taken on the White Star tug 



40-rater, designed by Will Fife, Jr., 1893. From an amateur photo. 



Pulver to Tebo's, where they installed themselves aboard the yacht. 

 The work of fitting out is now going on. the two new masts will soon 

 be shipped, and the yacht will sail for Glasgow as soon as possible. 

 She will he fitted with a wheel instead of a tiller for the ocean voyage. 



The Savannah Y. C. has elected the following officers: Com., F. S. 

 Lathrop; Vice-Corn., A. S Bacon; Rear- Com., G. L. Cope; Sec.-Treas., 

 M. A. Cohen; Stewards— H. A. Palmes M. Y. Henderson, H. M. Comer, 

 Jr., F. F. Jones. W. D. Simkins, I. Beckett, w. w. Starr, H.H. Gilmer, 

 John Screven, Jr., J. A. G. Carson, G. J. Baldwin, J. L. Walthour. The 

 annual regatta will take place about May 15. 



The Carolina Y. O, of Charleston, S. C, has elected the following 

 officers: Com., E. A. Simons; Vice-Corn., C. E. Prioleau ; Sec, E, P. 

 Ravenel; Treas., W. D. Middleton; Meas., M. D. Haig; Fleet Surgeon, 

 E. F. Parker, M.D.; Solicitor, G. M. Trenholm; Executive Committee— 

 Jas. Armstrong, F. Y. Porcher, H. M. Tucker, Jr., M. B. Hamilton, J. 

 S. Harleston, R. B. Lebby, R. Holmes, D. J. Porter. 



The Victoria Y. C, of Hamilton, Ont, organized last fall, starts its 

 first season with a membership of 68, the officers being: Com . Rev. 

 Chas. E. Whitcombe; Capt., T. Stephens; Sec'y., W Bayley: Treas., 

 W. J. Briggar; Meas., Robt. Hunter; Asst. Meas.. W. J. Lewis. The 

 club will make a special effort to promote skiff racing. It has applied 

 to the Lake Y. R. A. for admission. 



The Minnetonka Y. C. has elected the following officers: Com.,Wm. 

 Peet, Jr.; Vice-Corn., F. J. Hopkins; Sec, Robert G. Gale; Treas., C. 

 S. Langdon; Measurer, B. C. Hurd; Directors, Wm. Peet, F. J. Hop- 

 kins, J. B. Janney. C. B. Eustis, W. K. Morison, James Wyman, F. B. 

 Long, C. S. Langdon.W. A. Ramsey; Regatta Committee, F. B. Bailey, 

 C. H. Sweeney, Willis Williams. 



The New Haven Y. C. has elected the following officers: Com., 

 HenryS. Parmelee; Vice-Corn., H. S. Holcomb; Rear-Corn., F. T. 

 Hammer; Measurer, George W. Hunn; Trustees, Chas. Kimberly, 

 Geo. P. North; Sec, Geo. W. Guion; Treas., Geo. R. Chamberlain; 

 Regatta Committee, Daniel M, Goodridge, Stephen D. Baker, James 

 Gallagher, Jr. 



A cahlegram from Mr. Lloyd Phoenix to the Secretary of the Navy, 

 states that Intrepid had called at the Cayman Islands and recovered 

 the bell, memorial tablet and logbook of the wrecked Kearsage from 

 the wreckers who stole them and burned the wreck. 



The Carolina Y. C, of Wilmington, N. C, has elected the following 

 officers: Com., Geo. W. Kidder; Fleet Capt., Geo. N. Parsley; Flag 

 Capt., Ancrum Lord; Meas., Donald MacRae; Purser, J. MeRee Cowan; 

 Marshal, H. McL. Green; Governing Committee, J. H. Watters, Junius 

 Davis, Chas. E. Borden. 



The Milwaukee Y. C. has just been organized with the following 

 officers: Com., C. J. Williams; Vice-Corn., H. A. Coleman; Rear- 

 Coin.. John Joys. Jr. ; Sec, E. T. Bolcam; Treas., Fredk. Cook. Two 

 previous attempts have been made, in 1870 and 1880, to establish a 

 yacht club in Milwaukee, but each has failed. 



The Winchester Arms Co. have just completed two very fineLavigne 

 yacht guns of large size for the new steam yacht Columbia, J. H. 

 Ladew. They are on high carriages of mahogany, to clear the rail, 

 without portholes- Another fine gun now on exhibition in the Broad- 

 way store is for Mrs. Carnegie's new steamer Dungeness. 



The recent numbers of The Yachtsman have been specially interest- 

 ing on account of a number of excellent views of Nice, Monaco, Mar- 

 seilles and other Mediterranean ports now much heard of among 

 yachtsmen. The colored supplements are very fine and many other 

 views have appeared in the letterpress. 



Gloriana, cutter, has been sold by W. Barton Hopkins to H. M. 

 Gillig, owner of Ramona. schr. Mr. Gillig will not fit out Ramona 

 this year, but will race Gloriana, his old skipper, Capt. Gibson, going 

 from the. larger to the smaller boat. 



The rigging and tackle of the schooner Dauntless were sold at New 

 London last week to Mr. Morgan of that place. The sails have also 

 been sold, and the fittings and furniture have been taken to Hartford. 

 The hull will be moored in the Connecticut River. 



The Keystone Y. C , of Woodsburg, has elected the following officers 

 Pres, F. K. Walsh; Vice-Pres.. Jos. Rotino; Sec, W. H. Jay; Treas. _ 

 B. W. Lyon; Governing Committee— G. A. Wilson, E. C. Smith, Jos 

 Rotius, B. W. Lyon, E. L. Miller, C. A. Frost and F. K. Walsh. 



At a meeting of the race committee of the Rhode Island Y. O, the 

 following fixtures were arranged for the season of 1894: Jure 22, 

 ladies' day and June regatta; July 16, annual cup regatta; Aug. 20, 

 open regatta. 



Eidolon, cutter, designed and built by Chas. Olmsteadfor Vice-Corn. 

 Crosby, Riverside Y. C, was launched at Bay Ridge on April 10. 

 Garilan, the 25-footer built last year, was also put over at the same 

 time. 



Neckan, steam yacht, lately launched at Bristol, is now in Florida 

 with her owner, H. C. Baxter, of Brunswick. Me., and his family 

 on board. She will Start this week for Boston and Portland. 



Among the new British yachts' names are Carina, for Admiral Mon- 

 tague's 40-rater, and Romara, Unorna and Armorel for smaller racers. 

 One new boat is to be named Gaiety Girl. 



The Lincoln Park Y. C. has elected the following officers: Com.. W. 

 A. Paulsen: Vice-Corn., E. E. Berryman; Rear-Corn., A. C. Mather; 

 Sec, C. O. Andrews; Treas., D. D. Dutton. 



Nada, steam yacht, Chas. R. Flint, has returned from a cruise to the 

 Southern sounds, and is at Wood & Son's yard, City Island, for re- 

 pairs. 



Shearwater, steam yacht, has been sold by Henry Wolcott to Vice- 

 Corn. E M. Brown, New York Y. C, former owner of Fedalma. 



Capt Hank Haff will speak before the Massachusetts Y. C, at an 

 early date, giving some of his experiences in international races. 



Avenel, steam yacht, has been sold by A. J. Drexel, through Water- 

 house & Chesebrougb to a Boston owner. 



The Riverside Y. C. has announced the following fixtures: July 16, 

 annual cruise; April 17, club ball. 



Ventura, the 53ft. Pride of the Bronx, has been sold by H. J. Tif- 

 fany to Baron Harden Hickey. 



Lt. Henn is reported as dangerously ill at his father's home, Para- 

 dise Hill, Ennis, county Clare, Ireland. 



Polly, sip., has been sold to C. C. Noyes, who is having her altered 

 at Poillons'. 



The Yonkers Y. C. will build a new club house at once. 



The A. C. A. and its Critics. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



I have been very much interested in the various contributions that 

 have appeared in your columns regarding the reformation of the 

 A. C. A., aud not a little amused at some of the reformers' attempts 

 to tell how it should be done and also the amount of "undeveloped" 

 wit found in our midst. There is surely one thing that we have 

 learned; that is, where to look for our "board of governors" next 

 summer. 



I never see a "scrap" of this kind going on without having a desire 

 to take a hand in it, and had not weighter matters (sending out circu- 

 lars soliciting advertisements for the year book, as "Pulex" says) 

 kept my hands full I should have spoken my little piece before. 



Briefly stated, my ideas of the casus belli are as follows: First, 

 Mr. Holden comes "out and says, "Knock that chip off my shoulder." 

 Then Mr. Burns jumps on him and vice versa. "Ilex" next sets 'em 

 up and knocks 'em down. "Pulex" jumps on the wreck and incident- 

 ally nearly every one else (my turn will come next, I suppose). 

 "Ianthe" gets indignant and fires up, and then "Pulex" "laughs," 

 and so it goes. As "Pulex" says, "Now, gentleman, don't get flub- 

 dusticated." 



My impression is that if this discussion is carried on in proper lines 

 it will result in possibly new ideas, and at any rate an interchange of 

 thought that should result in good. But just as soon as you begin to 

 throw stones somebody's windows are bound to get broken. 



Mr. Burns and "Ilex" have the right idea -that it is advancement, 

 and not reform, that the A. O. A. needs. I might say for the enlighten- 

 ment of many, and which Mr. Holden has already found out if he is a 

 member of the L. A. W., that even with their memhership of nearly 

 50,000 and the immense trade backing that they have they could not 

 successfully publish a paper and send it free to every member for the 

 annual dues of $1, but have this year raised the dues to $1.50. More- 

 over, they don't have the expenses, without more than a commen- 

 surate gain, of an annual meet that the A. C. A. does. 



Now, I have an idea that will give the "funny men" a chance to 

 show what they can do. 



I have heard of an old saying that "What is lightly earned is lightly 

 spent," or another application, "That what is lightly gained is lightly 

 held." This refers to membership in our Association. 



I do not think the dues are too light, but I do think the initiation fee 

 is. It should at least be $3, or more properly f 5. Then our member- 

 ship would not be so lightly gained and would be much more strongly 

 held. Then, to protect our members, the camp dues of non-members 

 should be raised proportionately. 



This question of crying down the racing and the racing machine 

 should not be. Rather let us increase it all, and not only this but the 

 cruisers as well, and all other things pertaining to our camps and 

 canoeing. Goodness knows we don't want to go backward, as C. A. B. 

 would have us, to the time when we nearly broke our back or legs 

 trying to "hold" the canoe up; whereas now we are comfortable and 

 dry in a sliding seat. Nor do we want to abolish the plate board and 

 go back to the time when we could not make to windward against the 

 tide or even in a heavy blow; or for that matter to the old open cock- 

 pit, when you would gt t swamped in a seaway, or in case of a capsize 

 had to wait for some one to rescue you. These things should not be 

 legislated against but rather left to work out their own kill or cure as 

 experience proves them to be good or bad. 



I was quite amused last week to have one of my club mates come to 

 me and ask me who "Katrina" was and something about him; so I 

 suppose there will be something in answer to his letter in your columns 

 soon. I, at least, am glad to hear from "Katrina" and know that he is 

 still interested in the old A. C. A. Such letters as his show the feeling 

 that we should have for the association and its meets. Would that he 

 could come to Croton Point this summer and receive the hearty wel- 

 come that would await him, for many are the. inquiries that have been 

 made both to and by me as to his health and probability of attendance 

 at each camp since we met at Stave Island in '89. 



While I am at it, I might as well go through the list. To "A member 

 of six years' standing" regarding his proposition for life membership, 

 without criticising the idea, but merely as he would have it carried 

 out, I would like to ask if he thinks the secretary is looking for a job, 

 or needs some more detail to his work? If he does, I could give him a 

 tip or two. Now, gentleman, is your chance to "jump," but don't 

 jump too hard or you won't get any year book. Geo. P. Douglass. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



I think a laugh in print would look about as funny as "Pulex" in a 

 canoe! 



No, no, "Pulex," you take the cake for being funny, and you really 

 must not try to evade the issue by asking every one to "smile" with 

 you when you are safe in the oblivion that your nom de plume gives 

 you. If you should call at my store, for instance, and ask me to take 

 a "smile" with you, I would quickly grab my hat and go out with you. 

 Please don't be so tantalizing as to do it in print, though. 



But to come right down to business. Why, when I mentioned four 

 things that "Ianthe" does, and racing as the last one, did you select 

 only that one to elaborate on about your "conditioning?'' That seems 

 to b« but a fair sample of the way you meet the question all through. 



Also, why did you not deny my allegation that perhaps you "could 

 not show a certificate of membership or any credential that you are 

 even a canoeist"? 



Did my inspiration strike nearer the truth than even I had any seri- 

 ous thought of? Now, own up to the truth and don't beat about the 

 bush or even pass it by altogether, but come right out and tell us. 

 Are you a member of the A. C. A, or even an active member of any 

 canoe club? 



As a matter of fact, I believe you don't know why or what you are 

 talking about. To prove my assertion. 



Surely you are opposed to so much racing, and yet in your first let- 

 ter you wrote, to quote your own words, "But eliminate the racing 

 feature and the association camps would be dull places indeed to 

 spend two weeks. There would probably never be another Associa- 

 tion camp. Why is this? Because the average canoeman attending 

 the Association meets does not care enough for cruising and camp 

 ing." 



How do you reconcile these facts, as a first question, to what I state 

 above; and secondly, you are dead wrong, for the records will corob- 

 orate me that each year a smaller and smaller percentage of the men 

 attending the meets go in the races, and besides the racing men are 

 but a small percentage of the total attendance of the meets. 



I am sure that the cruisers are as anxious as any one to attend the 

 meets, why I even knew of one fellow that called himself a canoeist, 

 and he came from the famed Rutherford too, who was so anxious to 

 attend one of the meets that he "walked" all the way to Lake Cham- 

 plain to do it, and I doubt if he ever set foot in a racing canoe, either- 



