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FOREST AND STREAM. 



[June 23, 1894. 



The conclusion of the Commission in regard to these forms 

 of apparatus is stated as follows: 



"1. Tbat fixed engines confer a monopoly upon particular 

 fishermen, which is opposed to the ordinary principles of 

 legislation. 



That those fixed engines which are erected on fore- 

 shore, the property of the Crown, should be abolished on the 

 termination of the existing leases or lives on which they are 

 held. 



"3. That no new fixed eugine should be erected on either 

 public or private property." 



Passing now to the Trawling Commission of 18b5 wnicn 

 pursued the same line of inquiry as the previous Commis- 

 sion already alluded to, we find the following conclusions 

 and recommendations based upon the results of their labors: 



Summary of Conclusions. 

 "I. In territorial waters from the Moray Firth to Grimsby 

 — (a) A falling off of flat 'fish, (b) A decrease of haddock iu 

 certain places. 



"II. In off-shore waters— No decrease in the total take of 

 fish in the North Sea, except in the case of soles. 



"III. The beam trawl is not destructive to cod or haddock. 

 ThiTe. no proof of injury to the spawn of herrings or other 

 edible fish. . 



"IV. There is no wasteful or unnecessary destruction of 

 immature food fishes by the beam trawl. 



"V. The number of fish on particular grounds, especially 

 in narrow waters, may be sensibly diminished by the use of 

 the beam trawl. 



"VI. The injury done by the beam trawl to the food of 

 fish is insignificant. 



"VII. It has not been proved that the use of the beam 

 trawl is the sole cause of the diminution of fish in territorial 

 waters. 



"VIII. In the absence of a proper system of fishery statis- 

 tics and scientific observations, it is impossible to discover 

 the causes or measure the fluctuations of the fisheries. 



"IX. Much avoidable damage has been done to drift nets 

 and haddock lines, particularly by steam trawlers. 



"X. Peculiar difficulties attend the recovery by fisher- 

 men of compensation under the Sea Fisheries Act, or of civil 

 damages. 



Recommendations. 



"In consequence of these conclusions and of other facts 

 brought before us in the course of our inquiry, we submit the 

 following recommendations to Your Majesty: 



"I. That a central authority be created to supervise and 

 control the fisheries of Great Britain, if not of the United 

 Kingdom, and that a sum of momy be annually granted to 

 such authority for the purpose of conducting scientific experi- 

 ments and for collecting fishery statistics. 



"II. That in the meantime powers be given to the Scotch 

 Fishery Board similar to those of the Irish Board, enabling 

 them to make by-laws for the regulation or suspension of 

 beam trawling, or of any other mode of fishing within ter- 

 ritorial waters: and that a sum of money be granted annu- 

 ally by the Treasury for the purpose mentioned in the last 

 paragraph. 



"III. That a similar authority with similar powers he 

 created for England, and that iu the meantime those powers 

 be conferred upon the Secretary of State or president of the 

 Board of Trade. 



"IV That statutory powers and means be given to the 

 fishery authorities to enable them to collect adequate statis- 

 tics. 



"V. That the cruisers serving under the Scotch Fishery 

 Board, whether employed for police or scientific purposes, be 

 replaced by efficient steam vessels. 



'VI. That steam trawlers, besides having their number 

 and letters painted on the bow, should also have them painted 

 on the quarter." 



Considering this most recent report, it is evident that pub- 

 lic sentiment in England, so far as it is expressed in the 

 report of the Trawling Commission of 1885, is far in advance 

 of public sentiment in this country iu regard to the same 

 subject. 



In conclusion, I desire to say, that iu the discussion of this 

 subject, I have aimed to avoid questions or occasions of con- 

 troversy. 1 have sought to lay down the fundamental prin- 

 ciples upon which it will be necessary to construct such 

 legislation as may be found requisite to remedy actual or 

 prevent impending decrease in our fish supply. No one will 

 dispute the power of the State, having in view the general 

 interest, to prescribe such regulations as may be found expe- 

 dient. It will be equally conceded that such power should 

 be exercised with the utmost conservatism, and with due 

 regard to the important interests concerned. It will not be 

 denied, I presume, that the effect of unrestrained fishing in 

 our rivers is to reduce supply, which it is necessary to com- 

 pensate for, either by artificial propagation or bv restrictions 

 in the fishing, or presumably, both combined. This necessity 

 arises from the fact that it is possible in our rivers to inter- 

 cept or obstruct the fish on their way to their spawning 

 grounds. The further conclusion must be drawn that 

 wherever, in reference, to our coast fishes, it cau be shown 

 that the methods and locations of the fisheries are such as 

 to obstruct or materially impede access to their spawning 

 grounds, the same results must inevitably happen in refer- 

 ence to these that we have already found to take place in the 

 case of our river species. 



The broad fact! wish to impress upon this audience and 

 upon the fishing interests is this: That the interest of the 

 community is m maintenance of supply, and the interests of 

 tnensheries cannot m any measure be separated from the 

 general interest. Whatever measures are required to increase 

 or maintain production, are. as clearly in the interest of the 

 fishermen themselves as in that of the communitv of which 

 they constitute a part. M. McDonald. 



A Threatening that Reacted. 



™T^ 1E if U J? lu " n V N> Advertiser reports: J. Couatt, the 

 man who threatened btate Game Protector Carr's life at the 

 head of Cayuga Lake recently, was sentenced Thursday at 

 ltiiaca by Judge Almy to one year in the Onondaga countv 

 penitentiary and to pay a fine of $100. The lawless fishermen 

 of this region who are preparing to threaten the lives of the 

 game protector and his deputies should beware and not 

 threaten Carr nor be tried by the district attorney of Tomo- 

 =™ S f C i?- Unt % £ or a PP ea r before Judge Almy, for it means 

 something if they do Deputy Fenny Helmer of Montezuma 

 has lately relieved the river of eight nets. Carr has lately 

 collected tines of parties m Genoa for killing rabbits after 

 the law had expired. He also collected fines of parties in 

 Ithaca on the same complaint. The Seotts caught twentv- 

 nine lake trout from Owasco Lake Thursday andlhrew back 

 Uf teen because they were too small. That's very commenda- 

 Dte. i^ercn and bass are beginning to bite at various fishing 

 grounds owing to the warming up of the waters of the lakes 

 ana rivers. 



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The Dams of English Setters. 



BY P. H. BRYSON. 



The dams being more numerous than the sires, we cannot 

 do justice to all in this article. We consider that Gladstone, 

 Druid-Rubv and Count Noble, as a rule, furnish the blood of 

 the winning dams. Gladstone's daughters are superior to 

 his sons in producing winners. It can be truly said, his 

 daughters are the mothers in Israel of field trial winners, the 

 great majority having passed to the happy hunting grounds. 

 Few dams breed on unless rich in his blood. He was the sire 

 of Peep o' Day, the dam of Carrie J. and Gath, the latter the 

 sire of Gath's Hope and Gath's Mark, who have a double 

 cross of Gladstone in them, through their dam, Gem, Gath s 

 Hope siring Bessie Shoupe, who gets another cross of Glad- 

 stone through her dam. He was the sire of Twin Maude, the 

 dam of Roderigo, that breeds on with another infusion of 

 Gladstone blood, through his daughter, Bo-Peep, the dam of 

 Orlando, Antonio, etc. He was the sire of Lillian, the dam of 

 Toledo Blade, Joey B , etc., the best bitch I ever saw, though 

 the public, judging by her public performances, may not 

 think so. He was the sire of Gladstone's Girl, the dam of 

 Rod's Sue and Dot Rogers. The sire of Fate Gladstone, the 

 dam of Paxtang and also of Bo-Peep, the dam of Rowdy Rod, 

 etc., and of Florence Gladstone, the dam of White B. and 

 Rod's Whim. He is the sire of many other producing dams. 

 The Gladstone blood is the most potent of any to breed on 

 through the dam. Few winners are now without his blood, 

 and each year we find them getting less. 



Count Noble's sons on the other hand are superior to his 

 daughters and furnish more winning sires than dams that 

 breed on. Count is the sire of Bohemian Girl, the dam of 

 Paul Bo; he is the sire of Katie Noble and some other pro- 

 ducing dams. I stated in my article on sires, Count Glad- 

 stone IV., Eugene T., DeSoto and others bred as they, could 

 be relied on to breed on when judiciously used — Gath and 

 Roderigo furnishing the object lesson— they being almost 

 the same blood as Gath and Roderigo. The Druid-Ruby 

 blood ranking next to Gladstone in producing winning dams 

 that breed on. 



We find also that bitches of this blood are superior to the 

 dogs. This blood, unless crossed with the Gladstone blood, 

 is not so prolific in winning sires or dams, confirming what 1 

 have stated, that tUe Gladstone blood mixes wpII with 

 almost any other blood. 



The Druid-Ruby blood furnished Sue, the dam of Glad - 

 stone's Boy, the sire of Lora, Vanguard, etc.; Vanguard is 

 the sire of Maiden Mine, Gleam's Pink, Gleam's Sport, who 

 ought to breed on, if properly mated. They are the third 

 generation and winners. 



This blood furnished Juno A., the dam of Rowdy Rod and 

 Nannie S., also Lavalette, the dam of Paul Gladstone. It 

 furnished Lotta, the dam of Ollie S., the latter bearing a 

 double cross of it through Paul Gladstone. Combined with 

 the Gladstone's blood, it produced Gem, Lillian, Florence 

 Gladstone, Fate Gladstone, Gladstone Girl and other pro- 

 ducing dams. It will be seen the Druid-Ruby blood is a 

 very important factor in breeding, when you want level 

 heads and game finders. Combined with Gladstone it will 

 .be an important factor in the future, as we have reached 

 that point in; breeding for high-class dogs where we have 

 many of too much nervous force. This blood is going to be 

 the balance wheel that will enable others to breed on. 



Roderigo, like his sire, Count Noble, has not produced near 

 so many winning dams as winning sires. Rod's Sue, Betty 

 S. and Dot Rodgers are among his winners. They have so 

 much nervous force, great care should be used in selecting a 

 sire suitable for them. 



It is claimed by some that the blood of Daisy F., the dam 

 of Daisy Hope and Daisy Hunter, furnished the leaven that 

 leavened the blood of Daisy Hunter, causing her to breed on. 

 As Gath's Hope blood furnished more winners than the. Daisy 

 F. blood, without it, I am of the opinion it is more potent 

 to breed on. 



I showed in my article devoted to "Sires" that the suc- 

 cessful sires, as a rule, were large dogs; the opposite is the 

 case, as a rule, with the dams, though not so marked as with 

 the sires. 



I will give some illustrations of both small and large pro- 

 ducing dams, and my readers ca.nma.ke their own deductions: 



Petrel, the dam of Gladstone, was a small bitch; so was 

 Peep o' Day, the dam of Gath; Twin Maude, the dam of 

 Roderigo; Sue, the dam of Gladstone's Boy, Lillian, etc.; Lil- 

 lian, the dam of Toledo Blade, etc.; Bo-Peep, the dam of An- 

 tonio, Orlando, etc.; Florence Gladstone, the dam of Whyte 

 B.; Belle of Hatchie, the dam of Bob Gates, Lady C, etc.; 

 Juno A., the dam of Rowdy Rod, etc.; Dashing Novice, the 

 dam of Sweetheart, etc.; Ruby's Girl, the dam of Count 

 Gladstone IV.; Topsey Avent, the dam of Topsey's Rod and 

 many other producing dams that were either small or of 

 medium size. Gem, the dam of Gath, was a large bitch, so 

 was Sanborn's Nellie, the dam of Prince Noble, aud also'Bo- 

 hemian Girl, the dam of Paul Bo, and Belle Belton, the dam 

 of King's Mark, was another large bitch. 



Otder large producing dams could be named, but I think 

 the preponderance of producing dams is largely in favor of 

 the small or medium dams. It may not be amiss to state 

 that good results have been obtained by breeding large dams 

 to small sires. I have space to cite only Gath to Gem. pro- 

 duced Gath's Hope and Gath's Mark; Paul Gladstone to Bo- 

 hemian Girl, produced Paul Bo. 



Small dogs often win the Derbys. I cannot recall where a 

 small dog won the Aged Stake. It is the medium-sized 

 dogs that train ou after their Derby form. 



"Moss-Back Robber" Rule and "High Class" Dogs. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



In answer to Mr. C. E. Buckle allow me to say that each 

 aud every trial is simply a trial, and not a competition in 

 which the number of points made by either dog will neces- 

 sarily count in his favor. Each dog will be given a thorough 

 test, both as to his finding and pointing qualities, even if the 

 dog has to be worked alone to reach this result Discretion 

 is given the judges to run the dogs as ofteu and in what 

 order as they think best, until they are satisfied which are 

 the best dogs. The rule requiring the first and second prize 

 winners to run together before the decisions are announced 

 is superfluous, as the decisions are usually arrived at before 

 the two dogs are put down in this trial, and they are often 

 taken up before the dogs have gone 100yds.; this is done 

 simply to conform to an unnecessary rule. Heretofore bitches 

 in heat had no show whatever. How often, Mr. Editor have 

 you seen magnificent bitches denied the right of competing 

 m trials simply because they were in heat, the owner or hand- 

 ler thus losing all of his time and money. At this club's 

 trials at Grand Junction last February, Mr. Rose asked ner- 

 niission of his brother handlers to start Allene, she beine in 

 heat. She ran in company with Topsey 's Rod and she caused 

 him no bother, the judges placing him first in the stake 

 t>7? P e " eu 5 e nas Proven to me that a bitch in heat is the one 

 that is handicapped; the good dog pays attention to hunting 

 game instead of trailing a bitch. " s 



P. T, Madison, Sec'y-Treas. U. S. F. T, Club 



Indianapolis, Ind., June 10. 



I have had bitches in season and have had to wait for an- 

 other year, but the larger kennels seem to have a special 

 license to act as they please; their aim is to help the world, 

 the flesh and the devil, and in helping the latter they inci- 

 dentally help themselves. The kennel world is too full, and 

 has always been so, of philanthropists, and when you denude 

 these philanthropists of their feathers they have no more 

 luster than the peacock who fell among jackdaws. I think 

 the judges ought to be allowed to handle the dogs to suit 

 themselves, whether dogs or bitches in the heat. Pay the 

 judges and demand justice and have the same judges all 

 around the circuit. H. S. Bevan. 



Somervtlle, Tenn., June 9. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



We think this a wise move on their part as it is a great in 

 justice to an owner to go to the expense of training a bitch 

 and then not be allowed to enter her. 



I would therefore suggest the field trial clubs adopt the 

 following rule, which I think would prove satisfactory to 

 all and solve this much talked of trouble: 



A bitch in season should take the place of a byedog should 

 there be one in the first series; if not, then draw her to run 

 against a bitch in first series and likewise in second and 

 third if she shows sufficient merit to be taken into these 

 series, and. finally, if she proves to be good enough to com- 

 pete for first place and a dog should be her competitor, run 

 them separately after taking into consideration their speed, 

 style, range, bird sense and ability to handle game. Experi- 

 enced judges could easily select the winner. 



If allowed to compete on any other basis it would, iu my 

 opinion prove extremely hazardous and unsatisfactory. 



A. M. Young, Sec'y Manchester Kennel Co. (Lim,). ' 



Manchester, Tenn., June 14. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



I have long thought that there ought to be some change 

 made to protect bitches in season, as the old rule of forbid- 

 ding their running is unjust, and has a tendency to keep 

 back bitch entries. 



It is just as reasonable to look for improvement to the 

 English setter through our bitches as through the dogs, 

 therefore they should be placed upon terms of equality. 



I think it necessary, however, that some protection should 

 be extended to the dog, in case the bitch should interfere with 

 his chances through undue attraction. It would have been 

 more to my mind had the matter been left discretionary to 

 the judges, who could have then kept a* dog that was inter- 

 fered with from running with the bitch, until the last 

 moment, at least; and were the objectionable rule, that pro- 

 vides that first and second prize winners must run together, 

 eliminated, I think leaving the matter to the discretion of 

 the judges without trying to control unknown issues by rules 

 that will only complicate, things, would always regulate 

 these matters to the satisfaction of all concerned, 



I might add, as a precedent, that Rowdy Rod and Daisy 

 Hope ran their heat together in the four-hour race at the 

 Central trials, when the bitch showed unmistakable signs of 

 being in season. 



Ightfield Rosalie ran through the Derby at the last Grand 

 Junction trials in full season, and no one ever would have 

 known it from any signs in the field. 



Allene also ran in season, and that good little dog Topsy's 

 Rod never paid the slightest attention to her, and I will add, 

 that I never knew the bitch was in season until after the 

 trials, neither did I know that Ightfield Rosalie was in season 

 during the running. 



As one of the judges, I would have noticed anything detri- 

 mental to any dog runuing, had the same happened, I am 

 certain. 



While I am not ready to assert that the great hunting 

 desire is always developed to the extent that when hunt- 

 ing, a bitch in season will not be in the way of a dog, yet 

 I have never seen a case where such was the result, though I 

 have never made a practice of trying any experiments in this 

 line. 



I think the most satisfactory way to have settled the mat-' 

 ter would have been to have left the matter to the discretiou 

 of the judges, and in cases where a bitch in seasou stood to 

 win first or second, to have suspended the rule providing that 

 first and second winners should run together, and as it is a 

 useless provision the elimination altogether could do no 

 harm. W. W. Titus. 



Editor Forest and Stream: 



I am most decidedly in favor of abolishing the old rule of 

 prohibiting bitches in season from competing in our trials. 

 Under the old field trial rules where the judges were simply 

 machines to carry out the instructions of the club under 

 which they were judging, there may have been some excuse 

 for the rule, but with the rules as they are now constructed, 

 there seems to be no reason whatever why bitches in season 

 should not compete. 



The views expressed by Mr. P. T. Madison on this subject, 

 seem to me. to cover the ground entirely. I fully agree with 

 him in all that he. says. C. G. Stoddard. 



Davton, Ohio, June 15. 



POINTS AND FLUSHES 



[By a Staff Correspondent.] 



IN a pleasant letter to me from the well known sportsman, 

 Mr. Jos. H. Hunter, of Washington, D. C, he incidentally 

 mentions doggy-matters and the pleasant days passed at 

 Lexington, N. C, at the field trials, where his vivacity made 

 him the life of the party. He writes: "I will be in the cir- 

 cuit with two strong dogs this fall — Hoosier Boy and his sis- 

 ter, Daisy H. II. He is going to make them all get up and 

 go, and Count Gladstone could never cover any more ground, 

 than he can. By the way, little Daisy II is no plug." 



By the way, I note that the field trial men have lost a deal 

 of their erstwhile vivacity concerning sure winners. I have 

 not heard of a sure enough Derby winner this year, aud the 

 spring time has about passed by. Such a state' of affairs is 

 without a precedent. Heretofore, at, least, six or eight sure 

 winners were openly announced, with many more which 

 privately felt certain that it was merely a ceremonial to take 

 the prize. Truly, the palmy days of the ante-contest winners 

 have gone into the sere and yellow-leaf. 



A surprising number of complaints have come to this 

 office, in respect to unfair treatment to patrons by dog 

 trainers. And one is the other way, namely, dishonest 

 treatment of a trainer by a patron. It is a source of regret 

 that such matters occur. There should be reasonable busi- 

 ness precautions observed in the business transactions of dog 

 matters as in every other business. Human nature is much 

 the same everywhere and among every class, it is neither all 

 good nor all bad. 



In any event, the best way to settle differences in business 

 when a settlement can not be reached by agreement, is to 

 have the matter in dispute adjudicated by the proper court. 

 Matters which appear sometimes as unfair from an ex parte 

 statement, appear entirely different when both sides are 

 heard, with the necessary legal proof. 



Editor Forest and Stream: Cl ., , 



Iu regard to bitches in heat I wish for one rnia ™w strikes, commonweals, riots and anarchy may prevail in 



it be, and let it]be adhered to ' whatever 1 the world at large, but harmony and good fellowship bloom 



perennial with the noble guild of sportsmen. B. Waters. 



