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FOREST AND STREAM. 
[Sept. 15, 1894. 
The Record Fish of the Gunnison. 
Denver, Sept. 3. — I inclose article from Gunnison 
Tribune of Sept. 1: "Mayor Shove, in company with. 
Larry Lawrence, J. H. Collins and Alfred Butters, went 
down the river fishing on Wednesday. The boys had 
fair luck until in the afternoon, when Gene hooked a 
whale. It was impossible to draw the monster to shore, 
so Gene and the fish decided to nave it out right there in 
the middle of the water. They went at it hammer and 
tongs, Izaak Walton rules, and for forty-five minutes both 
contestants showed wonderful gameness. At the end of 
this time, however, the trout had to give up the fight and 
turned his nose heavenward. With the perspiration roll- 
ing down his face in torrents, Gene brought the van- 
quished victim safely to dry land and was proclaimed 
champion of the whole country amid loud huzzas. 
By the aid of the four the fish was assisted into the buggy 
and the boys were in such a hurry to get to town that 
the vehicle only struck the high places. Gene and Larry 
were smiling so loud that when they struck the Zugelder 
Hill the noise was heard and by the time they reached 
town a crowd of sports were gathered on the corner. 
"Oh, you're not in it," cried the excited mayor, and the 
next instant he exhibited a trout that by actual weight 
and measurement was the largest fish ever caught in this 
vicinity. John Latimer's tape line said 29in. in length, 
16in. around, while Jake Miller's scales pointed to lOf lbs. 
It was a rainbow trout and its long sides were a com bi- 
nation of beautiful hues. Mr. Shove sent his catch off to 
Denver to have it mounted, and when it is returned will 
be put some place to serve as a living advertisement of 
the wonders of the roaring Gunnison." 
I have a personal letter from Mr. E. P. Shove, who is 
cashier of the First National Bank of Gunnison, and in 
every way reliable, vouching for the measurement and 
weight of the fish caught. Mr. Shove had a No. 6 coach- 
man and a 7oz. rod. H. M. O. 
Metabetchouan Ouananiche. 
In camp on the Metabetchouan River, near Lake St. 
John, on Sept. 3, 4 and 5, the Rev. Dr. Henry Van Dyke 
of the Brick Church, in New York, took 32 ouananiche 
or landlocked salmon, weighing l36lbs. The largest fish 
was 5 Jibs. , and the average over 4lbs. They were taken 
with small trout flies, hare's-ear, Reub-Wood, professor 
and dark-coachman. They were all weighed with an 
English tested balance. Guides, Ferdinand and Francois 
Larouche, from the Hotel Roberval. 
fgtstyuUure mid $inh $jrotqction. 
Fishing for Frost Fish in New York. 
Copt of a resolution passed by the Commissioners of Fish- 
eries at a meeting held Tuesday, Aug. 14, 1S94: 
Resolved, That frost fish may be taken in any of the in- 
land lakes between the first day of November and the 
fifteenth day of December in the same year, with seines and 
dip-nets between the hours of sunrise and sunset. Persons 
desiring to take frost fish by seines or dip-nets must notify 
the Commissioners of Fisheries at theiroffi.ee, 53 Broadway, 
New York, of their intentions so to do on or before the first 
day of November in each year, and no person except such as 
shall have notified the Commissioners of Fisheries of 
their intention so to fish, shall have the legal right so to do. 
All lake trout, brook trout, California trout or other game 
fish taken while fishing for frost fish must be returned to the 
water at once without unnecessary injury. 
A list of the persons who shall have applied for such per- 
mission will be filed in the office of the Chief Game and Fish 
Protector, Albany, New York, and any person who may fish 
without having notified the Commissioners of Fisheries of 
their intention so to do will be arrested and prosecuted. 
L. D. Huntington, Pres., Edward P. Doyle, Secy. 
New York Fish Laws. 
Syracuse, Sept. 7. — I presume that all intelligent anglers 
will assume that my remarks in relation to the bass and 
trout season before the Senate Committee at Rochester were 
misquoted by a local newspaper; but lest there may be some 
Who will not do me such justice let me state that what I did 
say was in favor of having the trout season open universally 
May 1, and the opening of the bass season made from June 
15 to July 1, suitable to the temperature of water and the 
spawning season. 
I made a plea for the better enforcement of the laws, and 
for uniform laws, with boards of supervisors divested of the 
power to pass special laws without the approval of the Fish 
Commission. 1 also took position against the proposition to 
divide the State into districts with a special code of laws for 
each. D wight H. Bruce . 
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PIXTURESi 
DOG SHOWS. 
Sept. 10 to 14.— Toronto Industrial Exhibition Association, at 
Toronto. 0. A. Stone. Sec'y. 
Sept. 10 to 14.— Pittsburgh A. C. Kennels, at Pittsburgh, Pa. A. A. 
Batchelor, Sec'y. 
Sept. 18 to 21.— Rhode Island State Fair Association, at Cranston, E. 
. W. W. Dexter, Sec'y. 
Sept. 18 to 21.— Orange County Agricultural Society, at Newburgh, 
N. Y. D. A. Morrison, Sec'y 
Sept. 19 to 22 —Orange County Fair, at Newburgh, N. Y. 
Oct. 2 to 5 — Danbury Agricultural Society, at Danbury, Conn. C. 
M Rundle, Sec'y. 
Oct. 30 to Nov. 2.— Terrier Show, by New England Kennel Club, at 
Country Club, Brookline, Mass. D. E. Loveland, Sec'y, 128 Tremont 
street, Boston. _,. 
FIELD TRIALS. 
Oct. 23.— New England FMd Trial Club, Members' Sweepstake. A. 
R Sharp, Spc'y, Taunton, Mass. 
Nov. 5.— United States Field Trial Club, at Bicknell, Ind. P. T. 
Madison, Indianapolis, Ind., Sec'y. 
Nov. 6.— International Field Trials, at Chatham, Ont. W. B Wells 
Sec'y. 
Nov. 16 — Eastern Field Trials Club, at Newton, N. 0. All-Aged, 
Eastern Subscription and Selling Stages. Entries close Oct. 1. W. A. 
CoRter. Saratoga Springs. N. Y.. Sec'y. 
Dec. 17.— Southern Field Trials, at New Albany, Miss. T. M. Brumby, 
Sec'y, Marietta, Ga. 
Manitoba Field Trials. 
THE Derby winners were: Delhi first. Cynosure second, 
Tony Boylthird. All-Age winners: Brighton Toby first, 
Topsy Rod second, Aliene third. Full report by Mr. Waters 
n our nest issue. 
An English Fox-Terrier Kennel. 
< There are not many dog men who see The Asian, pub- 
lished in India, and as our terrier fanciers always like to 
hear about the other man's kennel, we doubt not that John 
Brown's interesting account of a day in Capt. Keene's kennel 
will prove amusing and instructive, as it touches on a good 
many things that interest terrier men and others. Capt. 
Keene is a well-known breeder of fox-teiriers, bull-terriers, 
Dandies, etc., as well as a judge, in England. We pass over 
the preliminary courtesies of the visit and find Capt. Keene 
and his visitor in the former's den: 
"You will see a lot of old friends on the walls around you. 
There's old Fuller and Nettler and Diamond, terriers of 
thirty years ago; that is old Sam; all are foundation stones 
of our modern breed. There's grand old Belgrave Joe. 
Here are Result and Vesuvienne, two of the very best that 
ever lived That large photograph of the head of the bitch 
I took myself. Yes, her ears are hung very high, but she is 
a grand bitch for all that, though I prefer the dog myself. 
These are the cracks of the present day — D'Orsay, Venio and 
Vice Regal. Not much like Vice Regal? No, it isn't. Ems 
has not quite hit him off, but the other two are excellent. 
This is my own bitch, Vesure; she was killed in my own ken- 
nels in a fight with two other bitches of mine. Those are 
two bull-terriers I had; this is a life-size head of my old 
Dandie, Border Viper. You know I have nob been showing 
fox-terriers very long, only about two years. I had bull- 
terriers for a time, and then I went in for Dandies. The 
Dandle is a grand dog; he is slow, of course, and no good for 
following a horse, but otherwise he is one of the best and 
gam est of our terriers. Old Border Viper, 'Shem' I call 
him as a kennel name, is one of my especial favorites. He 
never leaves my side. Yes, I am very fond of Scottish ter- 
riers, too. I have a bitch which I shall show you presently. 
I know you will be greatly interested in her. Yes, that is a 
good photograph of a setter, isn't it? I took it myself, caught 
him instantaneously in the act of sitting. Come and look at 
this enlargement of the same picture." 
"It is as good as any professional work." 
"Oh, I dabble in a lot of odd things in mv leisure moments, 
I am very much interested in the principles of breeding, 
heredity, and atavism. I have been making some experi- 
ments on the subject of the influence of a previous sire, 
which I know will interest you. Certainly, T grant the in- 
fluence. The question is, is it physical or mental? I am now 
inclined to think the former. I have been having some cor- 
respondence with Romanes on the subject. We must have 
some further talk about that, let's go to lunch now, and then 
we will stroll over the grounds." 
After tiffin, we lighted our cigars, and made our way to 
the kennels. 
"What sires have you here now ? " I asked. 
"Only Starden's Victor, a little dog I have a fancy for. I 
have Hunton Billy, but he is not here at present. His Ex- 
cellency is at the stud in town. Yes, he is too big I allow, 
and I don't breed from him myself. Everlelyn was qiute right 
to chuck him out at Wolverhampton, and I don't quarrel 
with the verdict. I quite agree with you regarding the demer- 
its of the type of the present day. 1 am of opinion the cracks 
of the day would hold their own if exhibited with the best 
specimens of, say, ten years ago, but the tag rag and bob-tail 
of the existing type are awf ui to behold. However, as you 
say, the evil will cure itself in time, and I am waiting for 
that time. You will not see an over-sized dog or bitch, that 
lam breeding from in my kennels to-day. They are small 
and compact, and when the craze for large, leggy, lathy 
terriers dies out, and I am convinced it will, my time will 
come. * * * See, here we are. This is Persistence, by 
Venio out of Determination, by Decision. What do you 
think of her? " 
"S be is a lovely little bitch." 
"She is quite the pick of my kennel at preseut. How she 
would have been 'all there' if exhibited ten years ago, but 
compare her with that seven months puppy by her side. He 
is what I call a specimen of the present type. I don't like it 
a bit. Persistence has won seven prizes for me, three firsts, 
three seconds and a third, beating Stephen's Ethel New- 
come sold for £150 She has splendid shoulders, in which 
• she takes after her sire. She has a first-rate narrow front, 
and look at her jacket. The Vicary makes an excellent 
cross for the Clarke breed. In fact, I think it is the only 
cross to set it right. I am thinking of sending the bitch to 
Dominie. I hope to get some good ones from her this season. 
This is Starden's Victor, bred by Major How, by Result out 
of Forest Queen, by New Forest. He is a seventeen-pound 
dog, and as game as a pebble. He worked with hounds for 
two or three years. I am going to breed freely from him 
this season. With his style and breeding I think he ought 
to make a successful sire. He is a little dog I have a great 
fancy for. The bitch with him is Souville, by Belgrave — Se- 
quence out of Deshabille. I shall put her to him bye and 
bye. Come here, I want to show you what I think one of 
the best Dandies of the day. Here she is, Lowland Lass, by 
Netherby II., by Border Viper, by Border King. I claimed 
her at Edinburgh at her catalogue price, and am of opinion 
I did a good business. What do you think of her?" 
"She is a very nice bitch, but I don't altogether like hor 
coat." 
"Oh, she is a bit off coat at present. Still, I don't think a 
Dandie's coat should be too hard or altogether hard. A 
proper admixture of hard and soft hair is what we want, 
a coat like that of a fox. I expect to breed some good 
ones from that bitch. Before we cross the road there is 
another bitch here that I expect will take you a bit by sur- 
prise " 
"What? a white Scottish terrier. I don't know that I ever 
saw a white one before." 
"No, I am not surprised at it, I believe her to be unique. 
I don't know that there is another white one in the world." 
"Where on earth did you raise her?" 
"I thought this would interest you. When, some years 
ago. we were quartered at Berwick, we had some very good 
Scottish terriers we used out shooting, but their color used 
to bother me. I was always afraid of shooting them in mis- 
take for a rabbit. I then took it into my head to try and 
breed white Scottish terriers, and I failed. I put a white 
wl -e-haired fox-terrier dog to a Scottish terrier bitch. The 
result was a litter of puppies all blacks and brindles and iu 
shape, taking after the shape of the dam I then tried a 
white fox-terrier bitch and a Scottish terrier dog, again no 
white puppies. They were all black this time, except that 
they had a few white hairs on the chest. In shape they 
again took after the Scottish terrier. A third time I tried a 
white fox-terrier dog with a Scottish terrier bitch, and again 
a litter of black and brindles, and all practically Scottish 
terriers, with very little evidence of any cross. A fourth 
time I tried breeding from one of the bitches, the results of 
the cross, and again all the pups were black and brindles, 
with perhaps just a few white hairs on them. These experi- 
ments show the prepotency of the Scottish terrier when 
crossing it with the fox." 
"It is, of course the, older and the purer breed " 
"There is no doubt about it. Still one would have thought 
a white puppy would have, now and then, appeared in a lit- 
ter; or, at any rate, one with a fair amount of white. I had 
intended selecting the whitest ones, and breeding from them 
again, till I had attained my object; but as far as I had gone 
I had made no progress whatsoever." 
i_. "But what about this white bitch then?" 
"1 am coming to that. One day I read in an account of 
the Ayr show that a white Scottish terrier was being exhib- 
ited there. I immediately fired off a telegram to secure her, 
and she was ultimately purchased for me at what I consider 
the very low figure of five quid ($35). This is the bitch before 
you. White Heather, by Athol II. (a light gray brindle) out 
of Judy (a dark gray brindle), all previous ancestors being 
the usual blacks and brindle colored ones. I afterward 
learned, on inquiry, that there had been one other white 
puppy, a dog, in the litter, but that he had died. I presume 
I was able to buy White Heather cheap, as no one else had 
thought of the curiosity of her color; they may even have 
considered the color objectionable, not bping the usual one. 
In all other points she is an excellent Scottish terrier, and I 
consider I wis very lucky to get her. I then thought I 
might possibly breed white ones from her, I put her to the 
Scotch terrier Kildee, and she missed. She is a very un- 
certain breeder. I tried her with another dog and she missed 
again. I then put her to Kildee again and she had seven 
pups, but no white ones among them. The fourth time I 
put her to one of my half-breeds from the white fox-terrier 
cross, and again a litter of blacks and brindles. So you see 
I have not made much progress in my attempt to produce a 
race of white Scottish terriers. White Heather still stands 
alone as a unique specimen. 
"She is not an albino either." 
"No, not a bit of it. There is another Dandie here, if you 
care to see her — Lowland Peggy, by Border Viper out of 
Bracken, by Mars. She is in whelp to Border Viper. Shall 
we cross over now to the other kennels? We were talking 
just now of the influence of a previous sire. I tried an ex- 
periment in the case of fowls. Do you see those white Leg- 
horns? I penned up a number of hens with a Langshan cock 
for some time, and then separated them entirely. For a 
month they had no access to any cock at all; and I then put 
them with a white Leghorn cock of their own breed, and 
hatched a few broods. The young birds were in all cases, 
except one, apparently pure Leghorns. There is the excep- 
tion before you. Look at his coloring, and look at the feath- 
ering down the outsides of his legs down to the feet. The 
influence of the Langshan cock is very plainly discernible in 
him." 
"Yes, it seems so." 
"I am now experimenting with guinea pigs, as being rapid 
breeders. I have put this rough boar to three smooth sows. 
When they have littered I shall try them a second time with 
a smooth boar of their own breed and note the result. The 
rough, long-haired guinea pig is quite a distiuct breed, with 
marked peculiarities. The. sows I am using are young ones, 
and have never been bred from before. I am giving the ex- 
periment every chance. When you come to see me again 1 
may have more interesting information to give you. Now 
here is a little bitch, quite of the old school, Viana, by Venio 
out of Veruia, own sister to Veuilia, dam of Vesuvienne." 
"Yes, she is a nice cobby little terrier with great bone and 
substance." 
"Of course, with the present rage for flat shoulders aud 
very narrow fronts she would not be in it at a show." 
"Yet she is fashionably bred." 
"Well, you see they all come from the same foundation 
stock. There is no reason why there should not be small, 
compact ones and long, lathy ones in the same litter. It is 
just a question of show fashion. The cobby ones have had 
their day, and the long leggy ones are now having a turn. 
When you come home again the weathercock of fancy may. 
have veered round once more. What do you think of this 
one? Viatka, by Venio out of Volka, own sister to Vengo." 
"Don't like her so well." 
"She is a bit full in the eyes, short in head and heavy in 
ears, but otherwise she is not half a bad bitch. Her legs 
and feet are very high class. She is now in whelp to my dog 
Starden's Victor. I expect you will like this bitch better." 
"I do She takes me tremendously. If she were just a 
trifle smaller in ear — " 
"She would be a high class show bitch, that just puts her 
out of the running." 
"What's her name?" 
"Finale, by Venio out of Determination, by Decision. I 
am not letting her out, as she is such a fighter. This is the 
bitch that killed Vesure, she is a little demon when she gets 
her blood up. Yes, there was another bitch mixed up in 
the row, but it was practically Finale that did all the fight- 
ing. It is no barking around with her, she means business 
when once she starts." 
"I am glad to see that show fox-terriers have not lost 
pluck, whatever else they have changed in." 
"No, the pluck is right, enough. Redmond's Dominie and 
D'Orsay are as game and keen as they can be. Old Venio 
is a hot one, I can tell you, Vice Regal is the same. Des- 
poiler is a little devil, and the bitches are as bad as the 
dogs. I can hardly take three or four of mine out together. 
They get up a row among themselves, or with something 
they meet on the road, and then it is a business to part 
them. Come in and look at the pups. Here is the dam. 
Determination, by Decision, out of a bitch by Result. She 
is the dam of my bitch Persistence. The pups are by Clive 
Newcome; there are four of them, three dogs and a bitch." 
"They look nice, sturdy little beggars, and as healthy as 
possible." 
"I think they are very promising. See, I have nob cut the 
tail of this one I am going to leave it to see how he looks 
with an undocked tail." 
"Won't that stand in his way at shows?" 
"I don't think so. I don't see why it should. I don't 
imagine they can pass over a dog that was otherwise good, 
merely because his tail was uncut. This one has a naturally 
short tail, and looks as if he would carry it well. Nowadays 
they often do little more than pinch off the tip, and what's 
the difference between a dog with an inch of his tail cut and 
one uncut altogether " 
"There's something in that. Personally, I don't care for 
the very long dock; but unless they dock to a reasonable 
length they might as well leave the tail alone, as nature 
made it." 
"Now, what do you think of the condition of my dogs?" 
"I think they are all as fit as possible." 
"So do I, and put it down to my meat feeding. Very few 
men give any meat at all, but I allow it freely with, in my 
opinion, the very best results. I don't think it natural for a 
dog to be a vegetarian." 
"Captain K^ene is a member of the Kennel Club and of the 
speeial Fox-Terrier and Dandie Dinmont Clubs. He is an 
excellent judge of a terrier, and judges in a sound, intelli- 
gently, commonsense fashion, without displaying any of the 
• curious idiosyncrasies of the faddist. I know very few men 
of whose judgment I have a higher opinion. But he is more 
than a mere judge. He is a sound, practical breeder, thor- 
oughly conversant with the principles of breeding, and is 
moreover a keen observer of nature. With a well stored 
memory, he does not trust memory alone; his note books, re- 
cording the results of his observation and experiments, are 
kept in a careful and business-like manner; and his kennel 
books are the picture of neatness. The remarks I have noted 
regarding the white Scottish terrier bitch White Heather, 
and the attempt to raise a breed of white Scottish terriers 
will, I feel sure, be read wiih interest by all doggy men." 
Our transatlantic voyaging fanciers are having some diffi- 
culty in getting home again, the steamers being so crowded 
that passage must be secured some time ahead. Advices 
from the other side received to-dav (Friday, Sept. 7) state 
that Mr. Mortimer will leave on the Etruria, which is ex- 
pected to arrive Seot. 8. Mr. Oldham has also been delayed, 
and will not reach New York till Monday, Sept.. 10, on the 
Berlin. Both these gentlemen are down to judge at Toronto, 
and they will have little time to get rid of their sea legs before 
handing out the ribbons. Mr. Oldham will unavoidably be 
a day late, so spaniels will not be judged at Toronto until 
Tuesday, Sept. 11. 
