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FOREST AND STREAM. 
[Sept. 92, 1864, 
ANGLING NOTES. 
Planting Young Salmon. 
, The time is drawing near when the first plant of finger- 
ling landlocked salmon will be made in Lake George, 
and I believe it is the intention of the U, S. Fish Commis- 
ioners to make a similar plant, which will be the third in 
as many years, in Lake Champlain. 
I have examined the streams flowing into Lake George 
during the past summer, at high water and at low water, 
and selected those in which to plant the young fish, and 
all those selected seem to offer everything that is desired 
for them; pure water of low temperature; absence of saw- 
mills and dims; no predaceous fish to prey upon the 
salmon — except it may be brook trout; and plenty of food. 
Last summer Mr. Rowland E. Robinson wrote me upon 
the subject of planting salmon in the tributaries of Lake 
Champlain, and I intended to quote from the letter at the 
time, but I was away from home fishing and the letter 
was mislaid until now. He said: 
"Your mention of the salmon planting in Lewis Creek 
[this was in Forest and Stream June 2, '94] some twenty 
years ago, reminds me that you may be ~ interested to 
know that, so far as I know, not one of the fish ever re- 
turned to the stream, nor, indeed, that one ever got out 
of it of his own volition, even so far as the lake. The fry 
were put in so far down-stream that they were exposed 
to the attacks of almost every predatory species that in- 
habits Lake Champlain. Three years ago a large number 
of landlocked salmon were placed in the same stream, 
although in what part I have not been able tolearn. If they 
were put in well up-stream, where there are ho large preda- 
tory fish except an occasional pickerel, and where brook 
trout are yet found, there is a reasonable chance that 
some may pull tbrough to maturity and a home in the 
lake; but if, as is rumored, they were turned out below 
the last dam on this stream, doubtless they have all gone 
to the living tombs that so speedily closed over thpir kin- 
dred in 1874. It is a pity that such experiments in stock- 
ing streams should be only half tried." 
The intimation in Mr. Robinson's letter that the land- 
locked salmon were not properly planted, or rather that 
they were not planted in suitable waters, was a surprise 
to me, I may say a very unpleasant surprise, and it is a 
matter of regret that his letter has slumbered in my letter 
box until this time. 
About the time referred to I had been to Vermont by 
direction of the U. S. Fish Commissioner to examine and 
select waters for planting yearling California salmon, 
and later I went with the U. S. fish car and planted the 
fish in the waters I had selected. From Arlington, Vt., 
on the Battenkill, I came home, and the car went on the 
same night to Maine to[get the landlocked salmon mentioned 
in Mr. Robinson's letter for Lake Champlain. I heard from 
the car when it arrived at Essex Junction, that there had 
been a considerable loss of young salmon in transit, but 
never until I read Mr. Robinson's letter did I suspect that 
the planting might be fruitless through the selection of 
the waters in which the.plant was made, or rather plants, 
for the fish were planted in several different places. I do 
know this, however, that when I left the car the men on 
it had orders to plant the fish in waters selected by a resi- 
dent of Vermont, who had made the suggestion as +o 
proper waters to the U. S. Fish Commissioner, and I feel 
sure that the men obeyed instructions; so if there was 
fault in planting it cannot be charged to the TJ. S. Fish 
Commission. 
I may say just here that I have a great respect for the 
ability of the landlocked salmon, once it has grown to 
fair size, to take very good care of itself so far as preda- 
tory fish are concerned, if I may judge from recent 
experience. 
Two weeks ago to-day I caught aouananiche at the foot 
of the big chute in the Grand Discharge, and a few 
moments later I caught a pike from behind the same rock 
that had harbored the salmon. The ouananiche weighed 
S^lbs. and the pike 141bs. Rather queer tenants of the 
same pool, for a tandem of such ouananiche could have 
gone down the throat of the pike without touching a fin 
at the entrance gate. 
Views of a Veteran. 
It is always very pleasant to quote what the veteran, 
John Mowat, may say about fish and fishing, as he speaks 
from long experience and close observation of the fish of 
Canada. In a recent personal letter he says: "This has been 
a very favorable season for the angler on the Restigouche. 
I believe there is no river on this continent that can 
approach it as a salmon stream, either in size and number 
of fish, easiness of access and particularly in its freedom 
from all danger to the sportsman. I have not the slight- 
est doubt that nearly if not quite 2,000 fish have fallen to 
the angler's rod this season, and although some of the 
pools formerly good have not turned out as well as usual, 
many have done much better. Changes owing to ice and 
heavy currents on the gravel bottom of the rivers are con- 
tinually going on, some places deepening, others filling 
up, thus causing the fish to select new 'lay spots' or rest- 
ing places, and in which the early running fish invariably 
rise to the fly. 
"I see that a much larger proportion of grilse than usual 
are with us this year. That they are in for the first time 
from the smolt stage, having been ten months at sea, is 
undoubted. They are perfect for propagating purposes, 
and all males. 
"If all the males come in at this stage, which I think is 
a correct view, then any year when they are plentiful 
would of necessity show a large stock of that year's 
product in tbe sea, as I believe it is now conceded that the 
female requires a year longer at sea to mature. There is 
so much of probability attending the habits of salmon at 
sea— where they go, how long they remain, period of 
return, etc. — that a great deal of what is written is theory 
and assertion. 
"I have again received proof that Atlantic salmon will 
become landlocked and thrive. I saw a full three-pound 
salmon caught in Parker's Lake which was planted there 
three years ago. Samples of the same hatching were got 
there last year weighing l£lbs. The fish was somewhat 
darker in color and deeper in body than our sea grilse, 
otherwise perfect. I have noticed that the trout in this 
lake are much deeper-bodied than any sea or river trout. 
The salmon was moulded similarly. Why should this be? 
"I caught a smolt last week so unusually large and full 
that I was curious to Bee what it fed on, and opened it, to 
find it quite full of milt so ripe that it would almost run. 
It is useless to theorize about the reason why this smolt 
was so out of rapport with its thousand of fellows on their 
way to the sea. 
"So far as I have heard none of the Bay or Labrador 
rivers can begin to show scores equal to tbe Restigouche. 
I have heard a proposition mooted to limit the rod catch 
to a certain number, say twenty-five or thirty fish to a 
rod. Should the Restigouche Club and riparian owners 
agree nothing would be easier, and it would show the 
netters that the angler does not wish to catch the last fish 
even if he could. 
"That there, have been one hundred rods on our rivers 
this year I have no doubt. Many only for a week or a 
few days. One party of two were on the water for three 
weeks, and I believe they had some salmon quite close to 
shore but failed to land them. However, angling must 
be learned by practical application. The best score of one 
rod was thirteen fish. Quite a decent day's work. 
"A fine body of parent fish, betweeen 500 and 600 sal- 
mon, many of them monsters, are now in pond here 
ripening for the hatchery, and they are quite a sight at 
times when they play like a lot of children out of school. 
Particularly is this so when the rising tide enters. 
"Trout here are no object, they don't count. The 6 
and 7-pounders we read about in Forest and Stream are 
not here. We call 3 or 4-pounders big ones, but they are 
not taken every day. June and September are their 
months with us, and from f to lib. the usual size. They 
are like salmon, they have their 'lay places' and" the 
angler, if not introduced must find them out for himself. 
Throwing a line hap-hazzard on our large rivers will not 
do; the angler must know where to get fish." 
What Mr. Mowat has observed of the landlocked Atlan- 
tic salmon in Parker's Lake, I have observed in lake 
trout, but instead of being constant it is exceptional to 
find them as he describes the salmon and brook trout. 
Occasionally I have taken a short, deep-bodied lake trout 
with rich, salmon-colored flesh, darker externally than its 
fellows. In more than twenty-five years' fishing, I have 
taken not over a dozen of these fish, which some fisher- 
men pretend to think are a different species. I have 
always said, and say now, that the difference is merely 
one caused by the quantity and quality of the food. 
When asked why different trout in the same lake should 
subsist on a diet so different as to make them very unlike 
in appearance, where probably the same diet was avail- 
able to all, I could only say, for the same reason that 
one man eats toast or rolls for breakfast, and another 
man eats pie. 
American Fly-Fishers' Club. 
During a recent visit to Canada to seek the ouananiche 
at Lake St. John, I talked a little with anglers that I met 
about the formation of a fly-fishers' club in New York 
city to be modeled after the club of this name in London. 
My article in Forest and Stream of Sept. 8 had not then 
appeared, but every one with whom I spoke on the sub- 
ject was warmly in favor of the project. Since the pub- 
lication of my letter Dr. Drumrnond, of Montreal, presi- 
dent of the St. Maurice Club and director of the Lauren- 
tian Club, has called at the office of Forest and Stream 
and expressed a great interest in the proposed club, and a 
desire to assist in its organization. He. said that the clubs 
with which he was connected, and all Canadian sports- 
men, felt that something of this kind ought to be done 
and that New York was the proper center for it, because 
the Canadians were much nearer to New York than New 
Yorkers were to Canada, and also because a very large 
proportion, 60 per cent, he said, of the membership in 
Canadian clubs were Americans. 
Dr. Drummond expresses my idea exactly when he says 
Canadians are much nearer to New York than New York- 
ers are to Canada, and the same may be said of other 
portions of the continent, for I believe I expressed it that 
New York was the great clearing house for anglers of all 
the States and Canada. My companion on the trip to 
Lake St. John was a member of the Laurentian Club 
(although he has never visited the preserve), but he lives 
in Texas. He was heartily in favor of such a club as I 
proposed and when I asked him where it should be loca- 
ted he said there was but one place, New York City. 
With that he gave me names of sportsmen from different 
parts of the South whom he vouched for as certain to be- 
come members. 
Very lately I gave a Canadian gentleman a letter of 
introduction to the London Fly-Fishers' Club, and he 
came back a member of the club. New York is much 
nearer to Canada or Texas than London. This day's mail 
brought me a letter from Mr. W. S. Eames, of St. Louis, 
and he says: "Anent the proposed Fly-Fishers' Club, 
permit me to urge upon you the propriety of your assum- 
ing command of the enterprise, and forcing the matter to 
an immediate issue. I have not consulted the 'brethren' 
here, but feel safe in saying that I can assure at least 
twelve local enthusiasts who will do their share as mem- 
bers of the proposed club. New York is a good place for 
the home." 
I now feel perfectly sure that the American Fly-Fishers' 
Club will become a fixed fact in the near future, for those 
who have already expressed themselves as favorable to 
the organization are sufficient to insure its success, as 
their names stand for success in whatsoever they may 
take a lively interest, and a club of the character that I 
have outlined will appeal to fly-fishers throughout the 
continent. 
I confess that it is a relief to find that Dr. Drummond 
believes that New York should be the home of the club, 
because in Canada I met one fly-fisherman so enthusiastic 
over the proposal to form such a club that, although he 
lives on tnis side of the line, I was somewhat afraid that 
he would, in his enthusiasm, organize a club in Montreal 
or Quebec before my letter could appear in Forest and 
Stream advocating New York. 
Scale of Hooks. 
I will answer three correspondents at once by stating 
that I gave the old, or Redditch, style, and the new style 
of numbering fish hooks, in Forest and Stream of Jan. 
20, 1894, page 52. The figures of the hooks were not 
given, but the numbers of the two styles were given one 
above another for convenience in comparing them. 
Chart of Fish Hooks. 
In Forest and Stream of Sept. 1 I offered to send 
charts showing sizes of fish hooks under the new and old 
scale, etc., to those who might first apply for what I had 
on hand. The supply was soon exhausted, and I now 
have nver a dozen requests for charts to which I cannot 
respond. I have sent to England for a new supply, and 
if those who have sent me their names will be patient 
with me I will soon be able to send them the chart, 
A. N. Cheney. 
NOTES FROM THE FISHING WATERS. 
Sw anton, Vt., Sept. 9.— Editor Forest and Stream: 
J. P. Rich, E. J. Harwood, of Scranton, and Dr. Charles 
S. Hart, of Montana, as the result of one day's fishing on 
the reefs near Hotel Champlain, Maquam Bay. caught 
20 bass; 6 of them weighed 22lbs., 1 weighed 51bs. 2oz., 
3 weighed 4Jlbs. a piece, 2, 41bs. a piece. 
We have had excellent luck the whole season, as this 
is an excellent place for black bass, as you see they aver- 
age large. C. T. D. 
[Is your arithmetic all right?] 
Reynolds, Wis. , Sept. 1. — A party consisting of Edward 
K. Lore and Roland Lore, of St. Louis, Arthur P. Hosmer 
and Tom Ferris, of Chicago, started from J. B. Mann's 
resort on Trout Lake and camped on Lake GreBham, a 
distance of about four miles. 
They were gone six daye and caught 38 muskallonge, 
the largest weighing 231bs. and the smallest being 5lbs. ; 
265 pike, the largest 7ilbs. and smallest 21bs., 17 hlack 
bass, the largest oilbs. and smallest lllbs. They threw 
back all muskallonge less than 5lbs., pike less than 21bs. 
and bass less than l^lbs. While anchored and casting 
for bass, Ed. Lore hooked a 161b. "musky" and had to 
fight him 18 minutes before he was able to land him. 
Hosmer has the record in this section for large muskal- 
longe, having landed an old warhorse of 351bs. weight. 
Master Roland Lore, a youth of 12 years, succeeded in 
catching the largest bass, unaided, the fish weighing 
5^1bs. as stated. Tom Ferris used his Kodac for a coaxer, 
which no doubt accounts for this elegant sport. 
T. R. F. 
Greenwood Lake, N. J., Sept. 13.— L. J. Louis of 
Brooklyn caught, Saturday and Sunday. 44 bass and 3 
pickerel, average weight of all 2lbs. F. Haug, John 
Iffland, C. J. Charles and E. Kokoschniegg of Newark 
caught, yesterday, 35 fish, 4 bass weighing 3ilbs. each, 1 
pickerel 3Jlbs. R. L. P. 
Clayton, N. Y., Sept. 12.— Hon. M. B. Wright of Sus- 
quehanna brought in a 401bs. muskallonge; J. N. Vache of 
New York a 151bs. muskallonge. Both are guests of the 
Walton House. The fish were caught on Skinner spoon 
No. 8. T. M. E. 
Essex Co., N. Y., Sept. 10.— The wall-eyed pike fishing 
is fine off Split Rock Point (Champlain); 2§lbs. pike are 
common. Heathoote. 
Ithaca, N. Y., Sept. 15. — The other day a private pond 
located in Dunby, a village a few miles south of Ithaca, 
was emptied of water, and the commoner sort of fish 
which the pond contained were drawn off by the wagon- 
load. An enormous quantity of fish was secured. A 
good many carp ranging in weight from 1 to 141bs. were 
taken, together with a big lot of large-sized pickerel. In 
fact, the pond was literally chock full of fish, and clearly 
disposes of the theory, held by some, that more than 
three or four varieties of fish do not thrive in water cover- 
ing limited areas. 
At present, Cayuga Lake anglers located at this end of 
the lake are taking a great many so-called German carp, 
running in weight from 2J to 81bs. Another species of 
carp, called English carp by some local fishermen, and 
silver bass by others, are taking bait freely these days. 
They do not average as large of the German carp, but are 
said to be quite as toothsome. Angle worms are used 
successfully as carp bait at this point. M. Chill. 
Canadian Trout Preserves. 
Dr. Drujdiond, of Montreal, who is president of the 
St. Maurice Club and one of the board of directoi-s of the 
Laurentian Club, has recently returned from a long trout 
fishing expedition in the territory controlled by those two 
associations. This territory, that is to say, that leased by 
the Laurentian and St. Maurice, covers an area of about 
120 square miles and its principal lake is Wayagamack, 
which, lying about 100 miles north of Three Rivers, has a 
shore line of not far from 50 miles. This lake is remark- 
able for the abundance and the large size of its brook 
trout. It is believed that it contains no lake trout. The 
largest trout taken there this year, which weighed over 
6lbs., was caught by Dr. McBurney, of New York, and 
Dr. Bosworth also fished there and took some good ones. 
Two gentlemen from Toronto secured a number of large 
fish. 
In seven days' fishing Dr. Drummond's party caught 
four or five trout each of which weighed over 5lbs., and 
they took thirty or forty weighing more than 4lbs. apiece. 
The territory covered by these clubs is pretty much an 
unbroken wilderness. It was lumbered over many years 
ago, but the timber on it, although second growth, is now 
large. There is some mineral wealth in the shape of iron 
t res, but settlers are very few and far between. No red 
deer are found there but there are some moose and plenty 
of caribou and bears. In fact it is not unusual for travel- 
ers to see caribou from the deck of the steamer. 
Tennessee Bass. 
Trimble, Tenn., Sept. 14, — Editor Forest and Stream: 
Solon Moss, one of Trimble's most expert anglers, made 
the largest catch of fish of the season a few days agn at 
Rees Lake, three miles from town. The lake is but a 
hundred yards or so in length and fifty or sixty in width. 
Charley Hendricks guided the boat for Moss, who began 
fishing at 11 A. M. The fisherman used a minnow troll, 
and when he ceased fishing just before sunset had landed 
seventeen trout, the aggregate weight of which was 851b*. , 
the largest weighing 4flbs. Of course in some localities 
this would be considered poor fishing, but it is the largest 
catch of trout ever made near Trimble. 
Jonas Jutton. 
The Forest and Stream is put to press each week on Tms 
day. Correspondence intended for publication should reach 
vs at the latest by Monday, and as much earlier aspracticab le~ 
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