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German-American Association. 
Thk seventeenth annual festival and prize shoot of the German- 
American Shooting Society, President Otto TJehlein, was held in Deck- 
man'B Ridgewood Park, L. t, on Monday and Tuesday of last week. 
This society is one of the largest shooting organizations in New 
York. It contains a membership of over 1,200, made up of some 20 
odd separate companies. Many of the most expert riflemen in New 
York are members of the society, and so tbe annual festival of this 
organization brings together a group of riflemen who make the shoot- 
ing house a scene of decided interest. This year unfortunately for 
the society the weather conditions were such as to make the annual 
festival mucb less successful than is usually the case. Heavy rains 
on Tuesday kept many of the members and their friends from visiting 
the park. 
Owing to the weather conditions only 104 members participated in 
the slioot. There is considerable rivalry between the various com- 
panies in the society for the honor of kingship, and as each company 
contains one or more of the expert class of marksmen, these individ- 
uals are the center of mucb interest in their efforts to secure the 
coveted honor. The competition this year developed the usual excite- 
ment Two of the members made a tie score of 68 out of a possible 75. 
Tbe two fortunate marksmen were Messrs. John Facklam and Charles 
Frankel. The tie was decided by the last best shot. Faeklam's last 
shot outranking that of Frankel, he was awarded the honor and was 
crowned with the usual ceremonies. 
Another feature of interest to the members of the society j'b the 
annual team contest, each team representing its separate company. 
This year there were only six teams in the competition. The Lutzow 
Company team won the honor. 
The ring target offered twenty-five prizes, ranging from $80 to $1, 
three shots per ticket, the two best to count for the first five prizes. 
There was the usual struggle for first position on this target, and re- 
sulted in some good scores. Fred C. Ross and Louis Flach divided 
first and second. Gus Zimmerman took third. Messrs. Fred Bisele, 
Otto TJehlein, M. Dorrler and Philip F. Schmidt divided the next four 
prizes. 
The premiums for the most points made on the prize target during 
the festival was won by Gus Zimmerman. The- veteran Chas. Q, Zet- 
tler shot himself into first position on the man target, making 58. 
Scores: Target of honor, 8 shots, possible 75, 12 best scores: John 
Facklam 68, Chas. Frankel 68, Gus. Zimmerman 67, 0. Rein 64, 
8chincke 62, B. Zettler 60, G. Albig 60, B. Walther 60, M. Wirth 68, H. 
Zimmer 58, A. Stolzenberger 58, P. Schmidt 57. 
Prize target (25 prizes), 3 shots, possible 75: 
F CRoss 68 71—139 Otto TJehlein ...72 65—137 
Louis Flach 68 71—139 M Dorrler 70 67—137 
Gus Zimmerman 69 69—138 PFSchmidt 69 68—137 
Fred Eisele 69 68—137 
F. Kalb 69, L. P. Hansen 68, Ignatz Marten 67, Otto Hinz 66, Gus Ring- 
ler 66, B Zettler 65, B. Walther 65, Jos. Lurch 65, Louis Buss 64, Louis 
Yogel 64, Fred Lindkloster 64, R. Busse 64, C. Rein 64, C. G. Zettler 63, 
Henry Zimmer 63, C. Horney, Jr., 63, P. Meyer 62, W. Weber 61, J. 
Marz 61. 
Premiums (5 prizes) for the most rings: Gus Zimmerman 1,967, Ig- 
natz Marten 793, Ph F. Schmidt 736, R. Busse 687, Louis Flach 595. 
Man target (18 prizes), 3 shots, possible 60: C. G. Zettler 53, Qus Zim- 
merman 57, Fred C. Ross 57, Otto TJehlein 56, Ignatz Marten 56, M. 
Dorrler 56. B. Zettler 55, Louis Vogel 55, Thos Lloyd 55, Geb. Krause 
54, Louis Flach 54, Louise Busse 53, Ph. F. Schmidt 53, Wm. Weber 52, 
Mr. Wirth 51, P. P. Hansen 51, Henry Zimmer 50, Fred Lindkloster 49. 
Medal target, 3 shots, possible 75: Qus Zimmerman 73, Ignatz Mar- 
ten 70, Fred Eisele 69, L. P. Hansen 68, F. C. Ross 68, Gus Ringler 66, 
Fred Lindkloster 65, Henry Zimmer 65, C. G. Zettler 65, Chas. Rein 64. 
The team match followed: 
Lutzow Co. No. 12. Columbus Co. No. 2. 
G Zimmerman. .20 22 19 17 23—101 P F Schmidt. . ..19 17 20 18 22— 96 
B Zettler 15 19 18 20 1 9 - 91 O G Zettler 13 20 21 21 18— 93 
CRein 18 00 14 13 25— 61 H Witte 0 8 18 10 18— 54 
G Ringler 17 14 20 19 19— 89 A StoIzenbergerl9 13 21 21 24— 98 
B Walther 18 23 23 21 20—105 Reiser 24 19 11 14 00— 58 
447 399 
Gustav Adolph Co. No. 7. Garfield Co. No. 21. 
F Stolz 20 1 6 00 13 16 - 65 H Schulthies . . . 6 6 15 22 16— 65 
G Albig 15 24 22 17 23-101 Q Hintz 10 16 10 12 20- 68 
F Meyer 19 22 18 22 18— 99 F Lindkloster... 20 20 21 17 19— 98 
J Lurch 9 15 19 24 21— 88 Haupt 23 5 23 13 4— 78 
Knochenhauer.,11 10 17 14 20— 72 Urbauske 9 16 5 10 12— 52 
425 361 
Washington Co. No. 1. Schiller Co. No. 10. 
H Zimmer 21 22 21 21 23—108 J Facklam 19 18 12 18 18- 85 
Albrich 14 9 10 20 13— 66 O TJehlein 18 14 25 19 21— 97 
J Marz 18 22 10 15 21— 86 Butcher King. ..23 00 6 00 6— 35 
A Wirth 5 9 25 20 11— 70 Kirchuber? 00 10 10 20 9— 59 
F Eisele 20 22 15 14 11— 83 Knoesel 10 5 5 3 12— 44 
412 
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Rifle in Texas. 
A small delegation from the San Antonio Rifle Club attended the 
prize shoot of the Green Valley Club, Sept. 16. They went there with 
blood in their eye, intending the utter annihilation of their shooting 
brethren in the contest that was to come off. But the country fellows 
didn't do a thing to us. Oh.no! They just pounded us into the earth, 
individually, teamually and all. In the list of prize winners below it 
will be seen that one man from San Antonio alone shows up, Mr. Al- 
bert Steves. The names of the other San Antonio riflemen who par- 
ticipated are withheld by special request. 
At the San Antonio range there were only three men present. They 
shot through their hats all the afternoon, so it was thought unneces- 
sary to print tbe scores. 
Conditions: Four shots at 150yds., rest, off-hand target; 4 shots at 
185yd8., rest, off-hand target: Alf. Hartman 77, H. Bruemer 77, O 
Voges 76, H. Adams 75, O. Forcke 74, L. Sahm 73, Jos. Fey 73, A. Eber- 
ling 73, C. Schmelpfennig 73, D. Knibbe 73, A. Steves 72. C. Pape 72, A. 
Kneuper 72, H. Mittendorf 72, J. Schnabel 72, C. J. Marnoch 71, O. 
Krause 71, G. Koch 71, W. Triesch 71. G. Reininger 71, F. Kaderli 70 
Conrad Pape 70, Wm. Pape 70, H. Syring 70, A. Toepperwein 70, Ed. 
Koch 70, John Hillerb 70. 
Hartford Rifle Club. 
Hartford, Conn., Sept. 22.— I inclose you scores made by the Hart- 
ford Rifle Club at their bi-monthly shoot this afternoon. German ring 
target, 200yds., off-hand: 
Medal Match (one entry). 
H M Pope 25 17 23 22 22 19 18 23 24 23—216 
D S Seymour 24 24 19 18 22 22 21 21 IK 23—213 
W J Dunbar 21 21 16 20 22 22 13 25 20 17—198 
H A Fox =.'5 22 24 23 19 16 16 20 15 16-195 
J Edwards 23 23 20 14 22 21 18 11 14 24—190 
Re-entry Match. 
Seymour , 18 23 19 21 22 22 19 19 21 23—207 
22 22 21 19 24 22 23 22 22 22—219 
21 21 21 23 21 17 24 21 20 17—206 
Fox 25 22 19 24 21 21 20 22 24 13 -211 
21 25 20 20 19 21 20 24 23 22-215 
Pope 22 21 22 23 25 19 17 21 23 18 -210 
Dunbar 21 19 19 23 16 18 19 25 18 25—203 
21 25 20 17 24 21 16 22 21 22—208 
H. M. Pope, Secretary. 
Greenville Rifle Club. 
Greenville, N. J., Sept. 22.— The Greenville Rifle Club opened its 
new series for winter practice on the gallery range last night. Twelve 
members were present and participated in the competition for class 
prizes. Scores: First class— Scheeline 239, Purkess 235, C. Boag 238 
Plaisted 235. Second class— Gotthardt 221, Chase 229, Chavant 226, 
Charlock 227, Spahn 233. Third class— Hill 224, Renker 218, Holzapfel 
228. 
RIFLE NOTES. 
While on a visit to Wissel's Cypress Hill Park last week, friend 
Wissel reminded us of the fact that the shooting season of 1894 was 
fast drawing to a close and that Election Day (Nov. 6) would soon 
roll around. He then shot a query at us in reference to another 
"champion" match on that day on the same lines of that held Nov. 7, 
1893. He followed his query with the proposition to donate another 
trophy as an inducement for the experts to turn out and join in the 
competition. Under these circumstances we could do no less than to 
say to Mr. Wissel, We will have another match on Nov. 6, 1894 t and we 
will try to have all the experts lined up in the park on that day. To 
those readers of Forest and Stream, who have forgotten about the 
champion match of 1893, or who were not patrons of the paper at that 
time, wa will take this opportunity to recall some of the circum- 
stances of the inception and the carrying out of the previous match. 
It is well known to the fraternity that the Zettler Bros', "den" is the 
nest where many germs pertaining to rifle matters are hatched; so it 
was with the champion match of 1893. It came about in this manner. 
While making a call there in the early fall of 1893, the two brothers, 
Charles and Barney being present and rifle topics being uppermost in 
the minds of all of us, we broached the subject of a rifle match to 
bring together all of the experts and as many of the lay shooters as 
would care to go into a contest. In 1886, a match was held in Union 
Park in which twenty-five of our best marksmen participated. The 
conditions of the match were $5 entry, half winners and half losers, 
100 shots per man. We argued that inasmuch as it had been some 
years since a match of this kind had been held, the time was ripe 
for holding another one, and in order to add to the interest of the match 
a trophy should be put up. This seemed feasible, but where was the 
trophy to come from? Who would go down into their pockets for the 
expense of it? We made up our mind to bring about the match and 
have a suitable trophy for the winner. After a week's work canvas- 
sing among tbe people who are interested in the rifle we landed at the 
starting point. The trophy was not in sight and doubtless it would 
not have been to this day if Chas. C. Wissel had not discovered our 
dilemma and generously come to our assistance with the proposition 
to donate the trophy himself. Mr. Wissel's generous proposition 
cleared away all obstacles from our path; the Zettler Bros took up 
the matter with their usual zeal and the tournament was carried out 
to the end and the result was a grand success. Now comes Mr. 
Wissel's offer for a trophy for another champion match for Election 
Day (Nov. 6), 1894. The entry list for 1893 contained 38 entries 
and on the day of the match 29 men shot in the competition, 23 of 
whom shot their 100 shots. In the champion match for 1894, let us 
have 50 men entered and facing the targets on the morning of the 
shoot. Why can not the expert riflemen from distant States arrange 
their affairs in such a way as to visit New York and participate in the 
contest? A programme of the coming match will be published and 
dis ributed in due season. In the mean time let our riflemen one and 
all get into condition for the closing shoot of the season. 
The New York City Corps will have a day's outing and prize shoot at 
Stimmel'S Park, Whitestone, L. I., on Thursday of this week. 
The New York State Rifle Club held its annual fall tournament at 
Dover Plains, Dutchess county, on Tuesday and Wednesday of this 
week (25-26). 
Those who delight in rest shooting with the telescope find great 
pleasure in the possibilities for close grouping and small strings in this 
style of shooting. 
A further experience with Troisdorf nitro in the .38-55 Ballard on 
the Greenville Park range last week gave us the following results in a 
series of 20 shots, off-hand. German target: 
First string 23 24 18 18 21 23 24 21 24 22—218 
Second string 19 25 22 22 17 25 22 20 22 23—217 
The powder charge was about 17grs. in weight, with a lead bullet 
tempered about one to ten, using the Winchester No. 3-W. primer. 
A local correspondent of Fayetteville, N. C, writes that the Fayette- 
ville Independent Light Infantry Company is in a most flourishing 
condition. It recently held its one hundred and first annual election 
of officers. It has a finely equipped 200yds. ranee. At the recent 
annual target practice Capt. E. L. Pemberton won the Wilmington 
medal of 1856, which was presented to the company by James D. Nott. 
Scores, out of a possible 25: E. L. Pemberton 23, S. Widdifield 22, 
Maj. J. C. Van 20, W. H. Russel 20. How many other rifle or shooting 
organizations in the county can boast of having passed the century 
mark? 
The Greenville Rifle Club has decided to hold a gallery tournament 
within a few weeks; programmes will be issued at an early day. 
All ties divided unless otherwise reported. 
If you want your shoot to be announced here 
send In notice like the following: 
FIXTURES. 
Sept. 25-26.— Rochester (N. Y.) Rod and Gun dub tournament, with 
Central New York League team shoot, at Rochester. J. B. Mullan 
Sec'y. 
Sept. 26 —Central New York Trap-Shooters' League, sixth tourna- 
ment, at Rochester. 
Sept. 27-28.— Harrisburg, Pa.— Harrisburg Shooting Association; 
live birds and targets- 
Oct. 3-4.— REAniNQ, Pa.— Independent Gun Club; targets. 
Oct. 3-5.— West Newburgh (N. Y.) Gun and Rifle Association tourna- 
ment. Last day live birds. W. C. Gibbs, Sec'y. 
Oct. 10-11.— Interstate Manufacturers' and Dealers' Association's 
tournament, under auspices of the Palmetto Gun Club, at Charleston 
S. C. ' 
Oct. 11. — Lewiston, Me.— New England Shooting Association cham- 
pionship tournament, under auspices of Androscoggin Gun Club. 
Oct. 13. — Ashbourne, Pa.— Ashbourne Gun Club;~targets. E. Bilting, 
Jr., Sec'y. 
Oct. 1 8-19. — Elizabeth , N. J.— Elizabeth Gun Club's annual tourna- 
ment. Live birds second day; lunch and loaded shells on the grounds. 
Oct. 22-24.— Emerald Gun Club tournament, at Dexter Park. Targets 
and live birds. Dr. G. V. Hudson, Sec'y, 9 Madisou street, New York. 
Oct. 24.— Central New York Trap-Shooters' League, seventh tourna- 
ment, at Utica. 
Oct. 25.— Richmond, Me.— New England Shooting Association cham- 
pionship tournament, under auspices of Richmond Gun Club. 
Nov. 28.— Central New York Trap-Shooters' League, eighth tourna 
ment, at Syracuse. 
1895. 
April 3-5 —Interstate Manufacturers' and Dealers' Association's 
third annual grand American handicap at live birds, at New York 
May 14 16. — Dayton, JO. — Ohio Trap-Shooters' League annual meet 
ing and tournament under the auspices of the Buckeye Gun Club of 
Dayton, O. Ed. Taylor, Sec'y, 8 West Third street, Cincinnati. 
May 21-24.— Knoxville (Tenn.) Gun Club's fourteenth annual tourna- 
ment; $1,500 added to the purses. 
June 19-21.— Cleveland. O.— Chamberlain Cartridge and Target 
Company's second annual tournament; $1,200 in cash added. 
Oct. 3 6.— Pennsylvania State Sportsmen's fifth annual tournament, 
under the auspices of the Keystone Shooting League of Philadelphia 
John C. Shallcross, Sec'y, Frankford, Pa. 
DRIVERS AND TWISTERS. 
Club secretaries are invited to send their scores for publication in 
these columns, also any news notes they may care to have printed. 
Two trophies are offered for competition at the two days' shoot of 
the Harrisburg Shooting Association, which takes place Sept. 27 and 
28 at HaTisburg. Both are individual trophies, one being competed 
for at targets, the other at live birds. The Harrisburg Shooting Asso- 
ciation donates the target trophy, the Keystone Trap Shot Wad 
Company being the donor of the live bird trophy. Only members of 
the Pennsylvania Association are eligible to compete. The programme 
for the two days of events open to all is one that is sure to draw well ; 
the graduating handicap is used, winners of first and second shooting 
at unknown angles in the next event. 
Mr. H, L. Gates, of TJtica, N. Y., who captained the Oneida County 
Sportsmen's Association's team at the recent tournament at New 
London, Conn., writes that the 100,000 standard keystone targets 
which were won by his team, have been received. Mr. Gates expresses 
the appreciation of himself and of the other members of his team at 
the action of the management of the tournament in so promptly for- 
warding the carload of targets in the face of the fact that the number 
of teams stipulated for in the programme did not enter. 
On Oct. 30 and 31 a full two days' shoot at targets will be held at 
Marion, N. J. The tournament, which is promoted by Messrs. Fred 
Quimby, M. F. Lindsley, T. H. Keller and Al. Heritage, is intended as 
a complimentary benefit to Mr. C. H. Townsend, the late trap editor 
of this paper. The promoters have already secured promises from 
several of the best known trap-shooters in New Jersey and New York 
that they will take part in the tournament. 
At the final tournament of the New Jersey Trap-Shooters' League 
held at New Brunswick, N. J., on Thursday last, seven clubs coiej 
peted, with the following result: South Side Gun Club of Newark 109- 
TJnion Gun Club of Springfield, 101; Climax Gun Club of Plainfleld 99- 
Myrtle Park Gun Club of Irvington, 99; Brunswick Gun Club, 94- 
Maplewood Gun Club, 92; Endeavor Gun Club of Jersey City, 90 
The Emerald Gun Club's tournament at Miller's Dexter Park on Oct. 
23, 23 and 24, gives every promise of a successful meeting. The first 
two days are target days, Out. 24 being reserved for live birds. Tne 
main event in the live bird programme is the Empire City handicap at 
25 live birds per man, $10 entrance, birds extra. A detailed programme 
will be given next week. 
Miss Annie Oakley will shortly leave the States and sail for the Oi 1 
Country, where she will star in "Miss Rora," a play specially writt- n 
for her. The play gives Miss Oakley plenty of opportunity for dis- 
playing her wonderful talents as a horsewoman and as a shot. A 
realistic fox hunt which takes place on the stage is one of the features 
of the play. 
The live bird shoot which will take place on Thursday of this week, 
Sept. 27, at Elm Park grounds. Port Richmond, Staten Island, is an 
assured success; entries number about 22. The conditions are 20 live 
pigeons per man, 80yds. rise, $10 entrance, with $200 added. The 
grounds are about three minutes' walk from Elm Park station. 
Notwithstanding the steady downpour on Sept. 18: Wm. Stewart 
and Jones mot atWillard's Park, along with about 50 friends, to 
settle a live, bird dispute 'or $50 a side. The birds, which were fur- 
nished by Rogers, were fast, too fast for the shooters, who got 3 and 
1 respectively out of their 10 birds. 
Rollo Heikes's trophies which he won at the New London tourna- 
ment recently are on view at the store of the Winchester Repeating 
Arms Companv, 314 Broadway. The Chambarlin Cartridge Company 
of Cleveland. O . claim to have loaded Heikes's shells with which he 
has been so successful this year. 
ThePoygan Gun Club, a Chicago association, has leased 2,700 acres 
of land, having a frontage of eleven miles. This land includes Pine 
River. Willow Creek a.nd Pumpkin Seed, all that portion on the west 
end of Poygan, and all of Norwegian Bay, Lake Poygan. 
Next week's fixtures include the Independent Gun Club, of Reading, 
Pa., tournament at targets on Oct. 3 and 4, and the live bird and target 
tournament of the West Newburgh Gun and Rifle Association on Oct. 
3, 4 and 5; live birds on the last day. 
During the second day of the California State Sportsmen's Associa- 
tion's tournament at Santa Monica. President Crittenden Robinson, of 
San Francisco, killed every pigeon he shot at— 52 straight. 
"The semi-monthly shoot of the Metropolis Gun Club of Kansas City 
resulted as follows: Horton 34, Pugh 32. Peck 20, Co°bv 18, Rooney 17, 
Winters 17, Smock 16. Estep 15. Stilwell 14. Peterson 6. 
The Ashbourne Gun Club, of Ashbourne, Pa. will hold a shoot at 
targets on Oct. 13. For programmes and further information address 
E. Bitting, Jr.. Ogontz, Montgomery county, Pa. 
That shoot at Chattanooga was a most successful one, and has 
boomed trap-shooting in that vicinity. Remember Charleston, S. C, 
on Oct. 10 and 11. 
The Sioux Gun Club, of Clinton, la., is making extensive arrange- 
ments for a shoot at the Interstate Fair which will be held in that city 
shortly. 
Although there are no new developments in the proposed interna- 
tional live bird shoot, the project is not slumbering. 
- Edward Banks. 
Knoxville and Memphis in '95. 
This year the "$l,0O0-added-money" tournaments made the eyes of 
trap-shooters bulge with astonishment. To divide $1,000 among those 
who took part in the different programme events was without ques- 
tion a big thing. The Knoxville Club however, have announced that 
they will at their '95 tournament add $1,500 to the purses, together 
with an additional $1,500 to be raised as follows: Every shooter who 
wishes to compete at the Knoxville tournament in 1895 shall pay an 
entrance fee of $10; the club counted upon 100 shooters doing this, and 
that means $1,000; the remaining $500 to be donated by the sporting 
goods manufacturers and dealers of the country. 
Memphis. Knoxville's Sister, can look with pride upon her gun club, 
that organization having gone her friendly rival at least $500 better in 
money added by her club. The following is how the matter stands 
now, the facts having been obtained from Messrs. Irbv Bennett, 
Divine, Allen and Frank during the tournament at Chattanooga, in 
which they took part: 
The Memphis Gun Club at a recent meeting appointed Messrs. Thos. 
A. Divine, president of the organization, W. F. Allen and Irby Bennett 
an executive committee to arrange for and carry out a touniament in 
1895, authorizing that committee to pledge thename of the club for 
from $2,000 to $5,000 in added money. It is understood that $2,000 has 
been deemed sufficient, and that that sum will he added to the purses 
during a four-days' tournament next year. The date has not been 
definitely settled so far, but in all probability the tournament will 
take place the week following the shoot at Knoxville. the dates for 
which are May 21, 22, 23 and 24. In Messrs. Divine, Allen and Bennett 
the club has selected a strong trio, a guarantee that the shoot will 
prove the suecess it deserves to be. 
The Ohio Trap-Shooters' League tournament at Dayton, Q , on 
May 14. 15 and 16, the Knoxville shoot the week following, with the 
Memphis shoot one week later, will make a circuit that will give the 
boys all the shooting they want for three weeks, the Dayton shoot 
acting as an eye-opener. The added money in the last two weeks, 
$5,000 in all. should draw shooters from their very death beds. 
In regard to the proposed 100 shooters at $10 each for the Knoxville 
shoot, it may be as well to state that Mr. Summers Van Gilder raised 
the number of those entered to date to 78, adding several to his list by 
his visit to Chattanooga. 
Weir City Gun Club. 
Weir City, Kan., Sept. 13. — The following scores were made by 
members of our gun club during the present week. The monotony of 
target shooting was somewhat fractured by a liberal donation to a 
live bird shoot. The good crop in southeastern Kansas is all that ever 
induced the business me.n of Weir City to engage in the hilarity of a 
pigeon shoot, and judging from the way the boys came out behind it 
will take two good crops to get them in another pigeon sweep: Ten 
live hirds, entrance $7.50: Wilkinson 7. Mcllhany 9, Blackett 9, Feath- 
erson 7, King 6, Calhoun 9, Best 5, Morrison 8. Ties on first and third 
divided, Morrison won second. 
After the pigeon shoot the club fell back on the old reliable blue- 
rock and spent the balance of the afternoon cracking mud. The main 
event was at 25 singles. Scores: Calhoun 24, Doan 23, Mcllhany 21, 
Abbott 18, Morrison 17, Beadle 15, Ayers 16. 
The North handicap has firmly established itself among our shooters. 
It was used at the tournament recently given here, and was pro- 
nounced by all shooters as just the thing. While entirely satisfactory 
to shooters it was so simple and easy to handle that the "cash man" 
didn't know he was figuring on a handicap. Its main advantage lies 
in the fact that it encourages and benefits the poorer shooter without 
any real detriment to the better shot, for while the high man may 
occasionally drop down and lose his place, this fact so pleases the low 
man that he takes his third and fourth money and stays with the 
game, thus keeping each event well filled ud. Our own shoot, con- 
ducted under the North system, was most "flattering to Mr. North's 
inventive genius, and showed that his thought in this line had pro- 
duced something needed. Mamaluke. 
Americans on British Grounds. 
Philadelphia, Sept. 17. — Editor Forest and Stream: I have read 
Mr. Moore's article in your issue of the 15th inst., in which he apolo- 
gizes for his statements published in the public prints shortly after 
his arrival from England. Had he stopped at the apology I should 
have been better pleased, and it would have put an end to a disagree- 
able incident, but unfortunately he again draws my name and that of 
Mr. Alberger of this city into the controversy in his review of the 
facts upon which he founded the charges. 
For myself and Mr. Alberger I desire to reaffirm the statement 
which I have already made, namely, that neither Mr. Alberger nor I 
have any fault to find with the treatment which we received from any 
of the gun clubs in England or their members I take advantage of 
this occasion to thank those clubs at which I shot for the privileges 
extended to me as a guest. 
Should Mr. Moore desire to write another letter on the subjpct I 
must ask him to speak for himself alone, and to leave me out of the 
affair. r. a. Welch. 
Binghamton Gun Club. 
Binghamton, N. Y. , Sept. 20.— By shooting a double score to day the 
Binghamton Gun Club finishes their series of shoots for prizes. First 
prize was the Lefever hammerless gun which Harvey McMurchy won 
at our spring tournament and then so generously donated it to our 
club to shoot for. Our arrangement was for twelve shoots, ; 5 birds 
each shot, highest average to take first choice, and so on. Below find 
scores of five leaders. McHenry being away has two scores to shoot 
yet, but will probably land fifth with Boss following closely: 
Brown 21 22 19 24 23 19 23 24 19 23 47—264 
Hobbie 13 19 18 24 22 21 24 24 19 22 45-251 
Kendall , 21 20 20 12 23 21 17 16 19 22 44-245 
Waldron 20 21 16 23 15 20 21 21 20 22 45-244 
McHenry 19 22 18 19 22 18 20 15 16 18 ..—187 
WlNPIELD. 
Peekskill Gun Club. 
Peekskill, N. Y., Sept. 22 —Following are the scores of the members 
of thti Peekskill Gun Club of the month of September in the 1SE4 prize 
compelition. The shooting is at 25 targets, rapid-firing sysieui, with 
added birds not to exceed 10: 
H L Armstrong 0111101101111111111111011101001— 24 
DrHB Wygant 111011001010111111111111111 — ii 
Dr P H Mason 10010111111 101111111 '11 11 —21 
H P Drtir 111001110010011111011111011)11 -22 
O J L.,d. , llOllllllllOOHOOlllOlllln —24 
Other high scores lor the month, not in the above competition, are: 
Pierce, 98 out of 100; Mason, 49 out of 50; Evennghim, 39 straight; 
Halsted, Dain, Horton, Perry and F. Southard, 24 out of 25, 
B. C. Everinghim, Sec'y. 
