FOREST AND STREAM. 
[Oct. 13, 1894. 
Mr. John Armstrong, who is preparing Mr. T. G. Davey's 
dogs for the International Field Trials to be held next 
mouth, writes his brother that quail are not at all plentiful, 
he having found but four bevies in two weeks' work, so bis 
dogs are getting a theoretical training. 
At the next election of officers of the National Beagle Club 
which takes place at the annual meeting, Oct. 29, a slight 
change will be made in the constitution to meet the proposed 
division of the secretary-treasurer's office. In future there 
will be a secretary and a treasurer, Mr. George Laick being 
nominated for the former and Mr. G.W. Rogers for the desk 
work. Au adjourned meeting of the club will take place at 
the A. K. C. rooms, 44 Broadway, New York, on Thursday, 
Oct. 1 1, at 3:30 P. M. 
There are several new offers in our business columns this 
week. G. W. Patterson offers young St. Bernards; J. Hope, 
English and Irish setters; Exchange Kennels, bull-terriers, 
Yorkshires, etc; W. J. Percival, pointerdog; H. L.Kreuder, 
well bred beagles; Joe Lewis, some choice English setters; 
T. H. Garlick, dead game Scottish terriers; Chas. D. Roberts; 
ch. Duke of Dexter pointer pups; Standard Kennels, beagles; 
D. L. McCarthy, Airedale terriers; A. G. K wants a fox- 
hound for rabbits. Our readers, interested in dogs, may 
find in our list of books on dogs the very best and latest 
works on almost every breed, their training and care. 
An American fox-terrier breeder has offered Sir Hum- 
phrey De Trafford, the Manchester Baronet and sportsman, 
$1,500 for his crack terrier Roper's Nutcrack, but the offer 
was refused. 
The Swiss Mountain Kennels, in renewing their stud ad- 
vertisement, report good results. They have several good 
St. Bernard dogs for sale, as owing to the excessive express 
charges now prevalent this kennel will not show so exten- 
sively as in the past, though they will not give up the breed 
by any means. 
Members of -the English Spaniel Club have broken out in 
revolt and anew club is in process of formation. 
Poor old Princess. Florence. We never expected to read 
this criticism, penned by the Rev. A. Carter, when he judged 
St. Bernards at Darlington show: "Princess Florence, 
third, has sadly deteriorated and was execrably shown. She 
appeared in the ring roach- backed, with her tail tucked right 
under her belly, and quite sheepish in expression, and was 
allowed to simply slouch round the ring. That she is, at her 
best, a grand bitch, is beyond denying. Though houudy in 
head, she has great depth, enormous bone, and is a wonder 
for size." 
From the British, Fancier we learn that Mr. Jas. Agnew, 
owner of the Old Hall Kennels in Scotland, has sent to this 
country the collie bitch Old Hall Una, winner of several 
firsts. This makes the sixth collie Mr. Agnew has sent to 
American kennels since November last, and the interesting 
news is given that it is just eighteen years since he shipped 
his first collie to America. It is not stated who the Ameri- 
can buyer is. Our American fanciers somehow delight in 
keeping their own secrets. 
The Daily Nor'wester, of Winnipeg, Man. reprints Mr. 
Waters' article in n Points and Flushes" of Sept. 29, which 
treats of the amendment in their rules which allows a dog 
the privilege of winning twice in their All Age stake before 
becoming ineligible in the club's future All Age stakes. 
Mr. Waters advances a very strong argument against this 
innovation, and as this is a very important subject we 
should like, to have the opinions of field trial men generally 
on this point. 
At a meeting of the New England Kennel Club held at the 
club rooms, Oct. 4. the election of officers for the ensuing 
year resulted as follows: President, Edward Brooks; Vice- 
President, .James L. Little; Secretary-Treasurer, David E. 
Loveland; Board of Governors, the above-named officers and 
•Tohn E. Thayer, Samuel Hammond, Jr., George A. Fletcher, 
Andrew B. Cobb, C. Stedman Hanks and Oscar W. Donner; 
Bench Show Committee, Edward Brooks, Samuel Ham- 
mond, Jr., and David E. Loveland; Delegate to the A. K. C, 
Edward Brooks. 
The Hempstead Farm Kennels have sold the prize-winning 
pointer Hempstead Beau to Mr. Clarke of Philadelphia, Pa., 
for §250. Mr. Clarke owned the pointer Gamester, but we 
regret to say that on arriving at Pittsburgh the Sunday 
before the show the dog was taken sick and died the 
next day. It seems that last July 4 he was very much 
frightened by a packet of firecrackers that exploded under his 
•belly; since then he has been very nervous, and the vet at 
Pittsburgh gave it as his opinion that his death was due to 
nervous prostration and fright brought on by traveling. 
As a natural consequence when certain men become too ac- 
tive in a specialty club there are bound to be ructions. Several 
Eoglisn specialty clubs do not keep pace with the ambitions 
of some of the members, and two or three new clubs are re- 
ported in the process of formation. Mr. Krehi- beems to 
fiave straddled a situation in the Schipperke Club, of which 
he was president, and has resigned. A good deal of public 
correspondence of a warm order has ensued, emphasizing 
the fact that no one counected with a kennel journal should 
take prominent positions iu such clubs or other canine asso- 
ciations, for however good their inteutious may be, there 
will always be found certain men who will attribute other 
motives to their zeal and create ill will. 
A nice question at law was involved last week in a civil 
case in Cnief Justice Murphy's Court at Williamsburgh. 
The owner of a black and tan terrier called Snip, related how 
he loved his dog in life and when it fell sick he got a vet's 
prescription of one drop of Crotou oil, in two drops of tish 
oil, to he given in live doses. The prescription was put up 
by a druggist who according to the dog's owner put two 
drops of Croton oil and two ounces of n»h oil iu the bottle. 
Snip gave up the gbnst wheu this dose was forced upon him 
and so it happeus that the owner sues the druggist lor $50, 
as the value of the dog and the damage to his feelings. We 
have not yet heard the result. 
Danbury Show. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
I have just read your paragraph about the Danbury show. 
I intended to have written to \ou last Saturday auu called 
your attention to their loose ways. At my request my sou 
entered Harry L. at Daubury. He took conquerable paius 
to get him ready aud was going on Monday so as to rliuw 
tne dog. Satuiday the inclosed lag came, aud upon looking 
it, over f made up my mind that Harry would stay at home. 
1 think that if 1 had tied that tag on tne dog he would have 
chewed it oH in a short time aud then he would not have 
been taken in. Another tfiing; there was no ticket for the 
boy to enter on to show the dog, and no ideutincaiion ticket 
but the coupon, and according to this coupon he ..could not 
be sent home until Saturday night, and thus be obliged to 
lie over Sunday somewhere on the road. 
Andrew J. Lewis. 
Cenjeal Falls, R. I. 
To Pointer Breeders. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
The Pointer Club of America, in offering their new stakes, 
are alive to the importance of introducing to the members 
and the breeder generally some means by which interest in 
the pointer and our club may be advanced and encouraged. 
The Board of Governors has decided that competitions of 
this character ought to work advantageously in accomplish- 
ing the desired end. They urge every member and all 
pointer breeders who can possibly arrange to compete for 
these prizes to do so. 
Events of a similar character, offered by other specialty 
clubs, have always been a decided success and a source of 
large income to the breeder and exhibitor. We auticipate a 
stake of $250 or §300, and are sure that it will be a sum worth 
competing for. 
The entries cannot fail to bring together the best of this 
kind, and a win iu these competitions must prove of incal- 
culable value to both the dog and the breeder. 
The Pointer Club has been liberal with its fund* iu the 
past, and it intends to expend the future income of the club 
in even larger special prizes than heretofore, but to arrange 
the competitions so that there will be no walkovers for old- 
timers, but to encourage the breeding of new stock and the 
perpetuation of the best types, and the survival of the fittest. 
Pointer men, don't play the laggard or keep in a manger, 
but make a liberal stroke in the right directiou. Show your 
knowledge by showing your stock; make your plans this 
year for next year's work, and send in all the entries you can 
muster as soon as possible. In thus doing your part toward 
the work before us you advance your own interests more 
surely by the enlargement of the field we represent. 
We believe the pointer has never had the succe-s which he 
deserves, because of the lack of confidence in the possibilities 
to be attained. By steadily pushing him to the front with 
the expenditure of some thought, time and money, he is sure 
to get there. • F. S. Webster, 
Secretary Pointer Club of America. 
New "York Cut. 
United States Field Trials Club's Derby A. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
The following-named dogs are dropped from Derby A On 
account of non-payment of second forfeit: 
ENGLISH SETTEES. 
Yale— H. K. Devereux's dog. 
Tort Dotlett— F. R. Hitchcock's bitch. 
Will — Minnesota Kennels' dog. 
POINTERS. 
Dan— N. L. Chaffin's dog. 
Blythe's Lad— C. G. Stoddard's dog. 
Douray— C. G. Stoddard's dog. 
Wamddska— C. G. Stoddard's bitch. 
Damsel— John T. Mayfield's bitch. 
P. T. Madison, Sec.-Treas. 
utitinq met (^ottifsiijij. 
FIXTURES. 
FIELD TRIALS. 
Oct. 23 —New England Beasjie Club at Oxford Mass. W.S.Clark, 
LiDden, Mass., Sec'y. ' Nomina' Ions close Oct. 1. 
Oct. 29. — National Beatrle Club Oeo Laick, Tarrytown, N.Y.. Sec'y. 
Nov. 5 — Brunswick Fur Cluu. Bradford S Turpin, Dorchester, 
Mass , Sec"y 
Nov. 7. — Northwestern Beagle Club. Louis Steffen, Milwaukee, 
Wis., Sec'y. 
COURSING 
Oct. 16.— Kenmore Hub's annual meeting; at Goodland. Kan. C. F- 
Weber, secretary. E H. Mulcasc r, judge. R Taylor, slipper. 
Oct. — Western Kansas Coursing Ulub's meeting at Leoti, Kan. 
W. O. Aliphin, secretary. E. H. Mulcaster, judge. R Taylor, slipper. 
Oct 30. -Chejenne Coursing Club, at Great B*nd, Kan. Ira D. 
Brougher, S c'y. 
Oct 30 — Altcar Coursing Club's autumn meeting at Holyoke, Col. 
S. W, Vidler, secretary. Basil Hay man, judge. R. Taylor, slipper. 
Nov. 14 —California State meeting at Merced, Cal. J. R .Dickson, 
S cretaiy. . 
New England Beagle Club's Field Trials. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
Inclosed please find list of nominations for the New Eng- 
land Beagle Club's second annual trials to be held at Oxford, 
Mass , commencing Tuesday morning, Oct. 23: 
CLASS A, ALL-AGED STAKE, DOGS AND BITCHES, 13 TO 15tN. 
Marguerite — Glenrose Beagle Kennels' white, black and 
tan bitch (Fitzhugh Lee— Dido;. 
Buckshot— George F. Reed's black, white and tan ticked 
dog (Dave— Daisy). 
Lewis— Howard Almy's tan aud white ticked dog (Ban-' 
nerman — Parthenia). 
Piper— A. D. Fisk's white, black and tan dog (Fitzhugh 
Lee — Lady Novice). 
Royal Rover— G. A. Bnckstaff's black, white and tan 
ticked dog (Rover— Singer &.). 
Jean Val Jean — H. S. Joslin's black, white and tan dog 
(Chubb— Mystic If.). 
Louie Fitz-Lee — H. A. P. Smith's black, w^hite and tan 
dog (Fitzhugh Lee — Maid). 
Mollie L. — Mark Lewis, Jr.'s white, black aud tan bitch 
(Don— Mollie). 
Quaboag Belle — Awashonk Beagle Kennels' black, white 
anu tan bitch (Larry — Louie). 
ZENO— Awashouk Beagle Kennels' black, white aud tun 
dog (Deacon Tidd — Daisy). 
Vice R.— Forest Beagle Kennels' black, wmite and tan 
bitch (Fitzhugh Lee— Nell). 
Forest Hunter— Forest Beagle Kennels' black, white and 
tan dog (Forest Boy — Lady Lee). 
Dorset Mollie — Pottinger Dorsey's black, white and tan 
ticked bitch (Jack — Beauty). 
Blanche — Miss E C. Kreuder's black, white and tan bitch 
(Frank Forest — lua). 
CLASS B, ALL-AGE, DOGS AND BITCHES, 13IN. AND UNDER. 
Gypsey Forest— Forest Beagle Kennels' black, white and 
tan bitch (Frank Forest — Sue). 
Viola — Forest Beagle Kennels' white and tan bitch (Val- 
entine — Jeanuette). 
Ulaf of Denmark— Henry Hansen's white, black and tan 
dog (fcJauuerniau — Partheuia). 
CLASS C, DERBY, DOGS AND BITCHES, 13 TO 15IN., WHELPED ON 
OR AFTKR JAN. 1, 1893. 
L'MSLOPAGOUS OF GLENROSE— Glenrose Beagle Kennels' 
black, while aud tau dog (Fitzhugh Lee— Partheuiaj, 
Nell R. — George F. Reed's tan aud while ticked bitch 
(Ned— Haida). 
Blossom— A. D Fisk's white, black and tau bitch (Fitz- 
huKh Lee — Lady Novice). 
Pealeb— H. A. P. Smith's black, white and tau dog (Ned 
— Suap). 
Slip— H. A. P. Smith's black, white and tau bitch (Ned- 
Snap). 
Diamond— Awashonk Beagle Kennels' black, white and 
tan dog (F. Forest, Jr. — Diamond Kruger). 
Bingo— Awashonk Beagle Kennels' black, white and tan 
dog (Deacon Tidd— Daisy). 
Zeno— Awashonk Beagle Kennels' black, white and tan 
dog (Deacon Tidd— Daisy). 
CLASS D, DERBY, DOGS AND BITCHES, 13IN. AND UNDER, 
WHELPED ON OR AFTER JAN. L, 1893. 
Pride of Glenrose— Glenrose Beagle Kennels' black, 
white and tan bitch (Fifer— Gypsey A.). 
Beatrice of Glevrose— Glenrose Beagle Kennels' black, 
white and tan bitch (Fifer— Gypsey A.) 
Laick's Roy— George Laick's black, white and tan dog 
(Rover— Minnie L j 
CLASS G, ALL-AGED, BASSET HOUNDS AND DACHSHUNDS. 
Pp.incetta— Windrush Kennels' liver and white dachs- 
hund bitch (Jay — Princess). 
■ • • • 
Show Beagles as Practical Field Dogs. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
I did not think of again writing on this matter, but the 
letter of your correspondent in a late issue sets me going 
again. He concludes his letter with the hope that he will 
hear more from his friends. Setting aside that hope, some 
other pans of his letter would probably have brought me 
out. 
He challenges his friends who do not believe he knows 
what a good dog is, to look up his record and see about his 
haudlinu as many beagles and other dogs as any one in the 
State; and then he goes on and tells us that the beagles (?) he 
has owned and handled are the "short, bow-leerged, long- 
bodied beagles." Shade of Sirius! What kind of a beagle is 
that ? Had the gentleman owned a French or German name 
it might have been excusable, but for one with a good Anglo- 
Saxon name to refer to a beagle as "bow-legged" and "long- 
bodied," it takes the fish biscuit. I read the letter aloud to 
my neighbor last evening, and as he went, lantern in hand, 
to close the kennel gate between us and the pack, none of 
which measure 28in. from tip of nose to root of tail, I thought 
I heard him quote Shakespeare's "Oberon" — "Ho, ho ho!" 
and say, "Bow-legged, long-bodied" beagle. Once in a while 
unfortunately such a dog creeps into field trials: but if our 
friend bad followed 1 he result of last year'sawards he would 
have found such a dog. although winning a first, was duly 
disqualified as not being a typical beagle. That there are 
poor beagles and useless beagles no one at all acquainted 
with the breed will deny; that some are gun-shy is well 
known, the latter, as "Agamak" says, being among the best 
of workers, yet it does not follow that such a fault is trans- 
mitted to the progeny, neither does it follow that all the 
puppies from those that are not gun-shy will be like their 
parents in that respect. I have in mind now the product of 
two bitches, one gun-shy and one not; the former never 
raised a gun-shy puppy (and her puppies have been used in 
the fieldj; the latter produced both, and that from the same 
dog, yet the gun-shy dog was a thorough workman. As a 
breeder remarked to me the other day, "Everything depends 
on getting your puppies into good hands." If one has a repu- 
tation to make it is better to dispose of the young stock to a 
practical field man for a less amount than to the uninitiated 
for a higher price, for the practical man will certainly give 
the pup the necessary chance. Such a one wrote me only a 
few.days ago, asking at the same time after the welfare of a 
pup of his breeding; this same man at onetime owned Fitz- 
hugh Lee, showing that practical men do use show beagles. 
Your correspondent tells us that he has a beagle and that 
he thinks it will make a good hound; if he has now a "sure 
enough" beagle I hope it will turn out well and if he handles 
it gently and gives it. a good chance there is a strong 
probability that he will have a highly satisfactory hound. 
If he thinks it as good as someone's else there are three or 
four annual field trials for beagles provided for the purpose 
of proving quality, where I believe all hounds get a fair 
chance to be seen and heard. 
And now I come to the last but one paragraph where your 
correspondent thinks it a "bitter pill to swallow when one 
goes out only to hear the. hounds. I feel like the gentleman 
that wrote "what's the nse;" perhaps your correspondent 
will tell me why a true huntsman tries to match the tones of 
his hounds, if it isn't to hear their music? Why does the 
bard of Avon say "match'd on mouth like bells"? I always 
supposed that it was the music of their voices that the fox- 
hound, the harrier and the beagle had been cultivated for, 
as much as for their scent and rabbit hunting. In my 
estimation not less than four dogs are necessary for a satis- 
factory run; they need to be selected something like this: a 
treble, a high tenor, a second tenor and a deep tone or 
baritone; then if they pack with equal nose and 
speed, why the music and echoes are worth losing 
a few hours' sleep to listen to. Perhaps to properly 
appreciate such music one has to be educated thereto. For- 
tunately, as a boy, I bad opportunities of hearing such packs 
of foxhounds as the Earl of Coventry's, the Berkeley and 
the Ledbury, on days that their meets were in the neighbor- 
hood. Every veer of the wind was studied, every sound lis- 
tened to — but perhaps I had better not diverge from the 
beagle subject; knowing I could never own enough fox- 
hounds to make a pack, I thought I might some time own 
some of his diminutive relatives, and I think I have laid a 
foundation. I know it is a long way round, Mr. Editor, to 
breed a satisfactory hunting and musical pack, but then 
there is the pleasure of it and the satisfaction of knowing 
each individual's peculiarity and breeding thoroughly, and 
the stimulus of overcoming the many obstacles to be met 
with. 
I used to like taking a gun to shoot rabbits where they 
were thick, but it is nearly a year since I had a shotgun in 
hand, and, with one exception, nearly ten years since I shot 
a rabbit. I know my friends and acquaintances often laugh 
at me about getting nothing, but I laugh back. Last time I 
got cold, and had to stay indoors two or three days, then 
they say, what do you go in the woods nights for? I answer, 
to hear the dogs run. Well, they say, you can't see what the 
dogs hunt, but I reply that it is to hear the dogs' voices, that 
musical discord that the bard of Avon writes of. 
That brings me to those "beagle meets." I am a little 
selrish in making the suggestion, I want to hear the com- 
bined music of a number of hounds such as we have here; 
some of the stock will furnish the treble, we may get the 
short tenor and counter tenor from the Forest stock; 
probably for long notes of a very mellow cadence we can find 
some of old Ringwood's near descendants, while perhaps the 
Lee and old Tone blood will furnish us with deeper tones. 
The more I think over this subject the better I think of it. 
1 am pleased to see that "Colombia" favors the idea even if he 
thinks the meets should be three times a week; probably I 
agree with him and it is not unlikely that I shall go more 
than once a week, but if the once-a-week works well, it will 
be little trouble to broach the subject of .more frequent 
meets. 
Acting on your suggestion, I have no objection to act as 
"whipper in;" in fact, I shall be glad to hear from any local 
or other beagle men on the subject. A postal addressed 
"Comedy," Maiden, Mass., will reach me all right and be 
duly answered. I may say that, so far as two or three of us 
are concerned, the meets are an established fact, and I have 
received cousiderable encouragement from others. I hope 
those who wish to associate for the purpose of running their 
hounds will be of the kind that care for the sport more than 
the rabbits. 
Had it not been for the drought I should probably be 
writing this letter from camp, as my neighbor and self had 
so arranged, taking the hounds and staying over Labor Day, 
but think it would be almost useless to expect much of a 
run this dry weather. 
