Oct. 20, 1804.3 
FOREST AND STREAM. 
"The success so far achieved there goes to prove that 
with proper protection, fish ways, etc., salmon would 
breed as free (comparatively) in the Hudson as in the 
Restigouche. But until I read your paper delivered before 
the Mohican Club, I was under the impression that the 
Hudson had been at one time a salmon stream. It is a 
marvelous thing, when one thinks of it, the persistency 
of the heredity instinct in the salmon. Even now in a 
small, narrow, but swift- flowing stream near Sherbrooke, 
P. Q., ninety miles from Montreal, fish are occasionally 
netted or speared in spite of the fact that the water is 
poisoned by acids and other impurities, and blocked and 
coated by sawdust, etc., to an extent that would seem to 
preclude the possibility of a fish living in it twenty-four 
hours. But sixty years ago this stream, Salmon River, 
swarmed with fish. At Three Rivers, on the St. Law- 
rence, eighty-five miles from Montreal, there was caught 
in a net last season a female fish weighing 2ilbs. It is 
many years since salmon regularly spawned in the river 
above mentioned, but these sporadic cases of atavism un- 
doubtedly do occur, perhaps oftener than the interested 
public are aware, for many of our inland habitans can- 
not recognize a salmon when they see it. It is simply 
'un gros 1 or l un belle po^sonS However, they don't care 
much about the game qualities of any fish, merely a case 
of 
"A primrose by a river's brim 
A yellow primrose was to him, 
And it was nothing morel" 
Memorial to Walton. 
It has been proposed to erect a memorial to Izaak Wal- 
ton in London, the memorial to take the form of a 
stained glass window in St. Dunstan's Church, with 
which Walton was so long connected. The window will 
cost about $500, and the matter of raising the money is in 
the hands of Mr. R. B, Marston, St. Dunstan's House, 
Felter Lane, London, to whom subscriptions may be sent. 
The circulars sent out with subscription blank attached 
have an excellent portrait of Walton, and I can send a 
single copy to anyone who may desire it. Mr. Marston 
will make no charge of any kind for expenses. 
When a Record Is Permissible. 
For many years I have denounced the catching of a 
large number of brook trout for the purpose of boasting 
of the number taken, and yet there is a time when it is 
not only permissible but praiseworthy to boast of the 
number of trout that a man or a number of men may 
have caugbt. A very dear friend wrote me the last of 
September from Diamond Pond, New Hampshire: "If 
you were only here you would enjoy capturing the 
spotted sides. The ponds are chuck full, and the jump- 
ing toward evening is incessant. We are fairly snaking 
them, but the trout do not run large — average half a 
pound." As a result of this snaking with a fly 700 brook 
were taken, and they are now in the breeding tanks of 
the New Hampshire Fish Commission at the Colebrook 
hatchery, where their eggs will be taken and the young 
fish hatched artificially. 
That is the kind of a record worth mentioning. 
A. N. Cheney. 
Notes from the Fishing Waters. 
Prince's Bay, N. Y., Oct. 13.— Splendid catches of 
striped bass have been made the past week. Trolling 
with send worms seems to be the most successful method, 
but a great many are caught by standing and casting into 
the surf. Several parties have captured from ten to forty 
in an afternoon or morning, just as the tide happens to 
be. Yesterday I. Smith caught nine beauties, some of his 
fish weighing over 6lbs. The whole lot were of good size. 
Anybody wanting any of this sport can find it between 
Petler's Hotel and Seguine's Point. R. L, H. 
sell his product — he is a market-fisherman, and so long as 
he confines himself to the code has as good right to fish, 
and to sell his fish as one does to fish for sport. The dif- 
ference is that the first named fishes for count and many 
of his catch may be lost for food, and the last sells the 
product of his labor in the market. We all draw a line 
between a pot-fisherman and a pot-hunter in our sports- 
man's definition of the terms, and I fully agree with Mr. 
Cheney in what he says on the subject. E. S. Young 
Vineyard Haven, Mass., Sept, 29.— Striped bass fishing 
has been very good at Squibnocket this season. 
R. W. C. 
Some Colorado Fishing 1 . 
Estes Park, Col., Oct. 9. — Estes Park is situated in the 
very heart of the Rockies, at an elevation of 8,000ft., and 
north of Long's Peak. This park is fifteen miles long and 
ten mile3 wide and contains three baautiful rivers, which 
are filled with trout. Our native trout is the mountain 
trout, with black specks, but we have the rivers stocked 
with Eastern and the rainbow. The fishing during July, 
August and September is very good, but no fisherman is 
allowed to keep a trout that is less than 3in. in length. A 
good trout fisherman can take 75 trout a day if the 
weather is fine, the fish averaging in weight about 4oz. 
The largest trout caught this summer weighed lflbs. 
dressed and quite a number weighing lib. were caught at 
intervals during the season. 
I was out fishing one day last week and caught 125 
from 9 A. M. to 4 P. M. in the Thompson Canon. Many 
people come here from the Ea9t to fish during the sum- 
mer. S. N. H. 
Sure and Easy Fishing 1 , but Expensive. 
State Game Protector Carr has made several visits to 
this village in the last few days, looking up facts reported 
regarding different cases of illegal fishing and hunting. 
It appears that some time ago one of our local sportsmen 
and a young Owego attorney, who is also a Newark Val- 
ley boy, taking advantage of the low water in a creek npar 
North Maine, by the use of a net took some half dozen of 
trout from a pool there. The penalty for this is $25 for 
each fish. Monday's Record says that the O wego attorney 
settled his offense for $25. It is reported that the Newark 
Valley man has since also settled his case for the same 
sum. It is also reported that Mr. Carr is hot on the trail 
of some other parties in town whom he suspects of ship- 
ping partridges from this station, and also some parties 
who were hunting birds before the season opened.— New- 
ark Valley Herald. 
Fishing for Count. 
Baltimore, Oct. 11.— Editor Forest and Stream: Mr. 
Cheney, in your issue of the 13th inst., echoes my senti- 
ments on the subject of pot-fishermen. Any man, when 
in camp or otherwise, who will kill any larger number of 
fish than can be consumed by them or their immediate 
friends, and kill such fish purely for record or for count, 
is a pot- fisherman pure and simple. 
Pot-fisherman does not apply to a man who fishes to 
Improved Supply for Hatching Troughs. 
A WOODEN distributing trough running across the head of 
a series of hatching troughs has been the regulation mode of 
supply in hatcheries since they have existed, and the practi- 
cal worker knows what a nuisance they are. Running the 
length of the building, the least settling opens the joints, 
and their length forbids their being moved after having been 
built in position. Then a bit of sapwood or heart in some 
spot will decay, and the whole trough will be condemned and 
a new one made. The life of such a trough may be from four 
to ten years, but it is always under suspicion of leaking at 
any time. I have one, now seven years old, that has been 
caulked and pitched several times, and still drops a little 
here and there, and it may last another winter; still if I 
were to put in more wooden supply troughs, I would line 
them with sheet lead of sufficient thickness— at least 31bs. to 
the square foot — to allow the replacing of a board when re- 
quired, or I would line an old trough with lead aud prolong 
its life indefinitely. 
Of course a slovenly superintendent who is content to have 
leaky troughs, a wet floor, and to slosh arouud in rubber 
boots, cares nothing for a leak here and there, any more than 
he does to see men spit on the floor of his hatchery, and it is 
not for him that this is written. 
The subject of dry and clean floors interested me years ago 
and still does. My floor is clean but a trough that leaks a 
few drops, just enough to show, is an annoyance, and I have 
one, a 60ft. distributing trough, which never has been tight. 
Having been called to plan a hatchery at Bath, Steuben 
county, N. Y., this season, I arranged for a row of troughs on 
each side of the building, with a 6ft. aisle in the middle at 
the foot of each series. The troughs were arranged by twos, 
for I would not have them in threes unless the lot was too 
small to expand the hatchery to the required capacity, and 
as the water was to be brought in a 6in. iron pipe for some 
600ft., with a fall of about 10ft. to the hatchery floor, my old 
ideas naturally ran to having the pipe branch above the 
building and flow into two distributing troughs, one on each 
side, and to discharge from the hatching troughs under the 
floor. I had long used brass gate-valves in wooden supply 
troughs, and as there were to be eighteen troughs on each 
side I finally decided, after sitting a half hour on a stump, 
that the inclosed sketch would be an improvement on any 
method yet devised, and I send a plan which I hope to intro- 
duce into all stations under my charge for the following 
reasons: 
1. Absolute control of the supply without a drip when shut 
down. 
2 Saving a portion of the space occupied by the supply 
trough. 
3. The ease of cleaning the main pipe A, by the full-sized 
gate, which when shut entirely down causes water not used in 
the troughs to flow over the upper dam into the ponds. 
4. Discharging in a central ditch under the floor. 
5. Cheapness in construction and lasting a hundred times 
as long as wooden troughs. 
When summed up there is little in this plan to suggest 
much thought or study, but it is new and did really take a 
little consideration to get it up, and the mark of a muddy 
hand, slapped on a pair of four-dollar trousers still remains 
to show how I emphasized my "Eureka," up in Steuben 
county. 
At my Long Island station I run the waste water back 
under the hatching troughs in 4-inch soil pipes to ft waste 
trough outside the building, because the ground under the 
hatchery is lower than the ponds outside, but at Bath the 
case is different and the arrangement shown is the best for 
the situation, if carried out as planned; and as it is a differ- 
ent mode of supply from any in use as far as I know, it 
seems worthy of illustration. 
The main pipe will be pierced for nine 2-inch uprights 
with "tees" to branch to each side, under the floor; these 
will bend up and over the troughs, ending in a "tee" with 
two one-inch branches and gates, which, with a head of 
several feet, will give the required flow. Fred Mather. 
Cold Sprins Harbsr, N. Y. 
Frog Culture. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
The query of "E. C. M.," of Chicago, in regard to frog cul- 
ture in the United States, may be answered in the negative. 
There is no book on the subject so far as I know, and if there 
were 1 think I should know of it. I don't know of anything 
published on the subject, except two or three articles of mine 
written a few years ago, about the time when frogs first be- 
came an article of trade in the New York markets. My first 
acquaintance with frogs— that is, to any extent — was when 
I went to look at forty acres of land now in the center of 
Chicago nearly forty years ago, which was offered me for $1 
an acre. The only value of the land then was for a frog 
farm, and having then only recently returned from Europe, 
where I had visited such an establishment, the thought oc- 
curred to me as I looked over the wretched swamp covered 
with green scum, and was deafened by the cries of the bull- 
frogs, what an excellent place it was for rearing these ba- 
trachians. We have advanced since then, and may now 
share with the French the name of frog eaters, although we 
have not got so far as the cultivation of the animals. 
We have no Bana esculenta, the edible frog of Europe. It 
is a really pretty creature, with its plainly marked yellow 
line down the back, which is greenish brown. It is not so 
large as our Bana mugiens, the common bullfrog, which is 
eaten here and often found in the New Jersey marshes to a 
length of Sin., and which I have seen take in and swallow a 
duckling. It sometimes weighs over 21bs. The pretty green 
spotted frog (Bana palustris) a better jumper than Mark 
Twain's sporting frog, noted as the victor in a match in 
which this truthful historian "jockeyed" the opponent's 
champion by feeding it with a pound of buckshot just be- 
fore the match came off, and which I have seen jump clear 
7ft. on my lawn, is often caught and eaten here. In the 
Hackensack meadows this frog used to be exceedingly abun- 
dant, but the enterprising New Jersey boys have of late years 
reduced its numbers almost to extinction. 
Some years ago, when pedestrianizing in the vicinity of 
Paris, I heard a noise like the rumbling of distant thunder, 
but seeing a clear sky all around I was led to investigate the 
cause of the phenomenon. Following the direction of the 
sound I soon came to an inclosure from which the babel 
proceeded. It was indeed a confusion of tongues. It came 
from the other side of a high board fence, and as I was peep- 
ing through the cracks to investigate, I was approached by a 
Humpty Dumpty of a little Frenchman, nearly as broad as he 
waslong, whoinvited me inside to inspect "mes grenouilles," 
The farm occupied about five acres (two hectares, the little 
frog-eater told me), and he thought he had more than ten 
thousand frogs. From the noise I thought he might have 
ten millions, and so I toid my host, at which he laughed im- 
moderately and said it was their singing time, just about 
sundown, when the frogs begin their love songs. The whole 
place was a series of ditches, with grassy banks between 
them. Going along these banks one could see myriads of 
frogs sitting in the long grass at the water's edge, and 
myriads more with their musical instruments just visible 
among the water cresses which mostly filled the ditches. 
The frogs were fed? Certainemenb, mon cher monsieur. 
Horse beef from the abattoir, chopped fine, was served twice 
a day, and flies and gnats helped to keep them fat and 
rotund. Mosquitoes were plenty, and they helped out for 
side dishes. There are other "grenouillieries^ (as we should 
say, froggeries) about Paris, and many thousands are sent in 
daily to the markets. Only the hindquarters are sent, neatly 
skinned and dressed and packed in baskets among the sprigs 
of watercresses, which are washed and tied in bunches and 
sold. 
A little way off there was a snail (escargot) farm (escargot- 
terie), where these luscious mollusks were reared for sale in 
the markets as material for soups and other mysterious 
dishes of which the French have so extensive a repertoire. I 
visited there the next day and found it something like the 
grenouillteric, except that the owner explained that he 
had great trouble to keep his stock from climbing over the 
fences and straying away into the adjacent market gardens, 
where they would ruin a whole crop of lettuce in a night. 
Lettuce is the main feed of the snails, and the banks between 
the shallow ditches, here also filled with watercress, were 
planted thickly with this vegetable. 
One of the most curious sights of the Paris markets is the 
small tables covered with snow-white linen, on which numer- 
ous edible trifles are exposed for sale, such as dressed spar- 
rows, larks (you may buy half of one), joints of fowls, hind- 
legs of frogs, and snails in bowls of chopped green stuff, 
small cheeses and tiny pats of butter about as small as we 
use on a small piece of toast. We may come to this in time 
possibly ourselves, and then we shall have frog and snail 
farms around our big cities, just as we have strawberry 
farms, henneries and broiler chicken factories and dairies, 
and farmers will have more lucrative crops to grow than 
50-cent wheat. H. Stewart. 
lew ffnMimUan^ 
Walton and the Earlier Fishing Writers.* 
A hecknt addition to our angling literature is to be found in "The 
Book-Lovers' Library," with the title "Walton and Some Earlier 
Writers on Fish and Fishing,' 1 by Robert Bright Marston. It is one of 
the most companionable of books, and the author in his treatment of 
the subject has stamped it with something of his genial personality, 
and it is plain to be seen that the book has been written for pure love 
of that which is best in the history of the contemplative man's recre- 
ation. 
There is a charm about the author's pen-work which he comes 
honestly by, through inheritance from his father, "The Amateur 
Angler," as he takes his reader into the sanctuary of his library, so to 
speak, and offers him an easy chair and creature comforts while he 
discourses about the old authors on his book shelves. 
I wonder if this manner of establishing friendly relations, a sort of 
camp -fire confidence, between author and reader is peculiar to angling 
writers, for I had occasion to note it in another angling author not 
very long ago. 
Naturally the editor of the 100th edition of Walton is on familiar 
terms with the Father of Anglers, but as one reads Mr. Marston'B 
later work it is discovered that he is on no less familiar terms with 
Dame Berners, compiler of the first book upon angling in the English 
language; John Dennys, the angler poet; Leonard Mascall, the pioneer 
fishiulturist in England; Thos. Barker, to whom Walton was indebted 
for directions how to make and use a ' flye for trout;" Gervase Mark- 
ham, and others high on the roll of fame who b'azed the way for 
others to follow in the paths of angling literature. 
Mr. Marston brings out one curious error in the first edition of Wal- 
ton in a way that I do not remember to have seen noted. Westwood's 
Chronicle of the "Compleat Angler" records certain errors britfly; 
namely, "and p. 245, 'contention' instead of 'contentment';" but this 
gives no idea of the sense in which the word was used. The error 
occurs in the last verses given in the original edition, and in the last 
two lines, which read: 
"And if contention be a stranger, then 
I'l nere look for it, but in heaven again." 
Only a part of the first edition (1653) was printed with this fatal 
error to the sense of the verse, "which," as Mr. Marston says, "when 
Walton discovered it, doubtless made him put on his hat and go with 
all speed to his friend and publisher. Richard Marriot, to stop the 
press." 
The author quotes from a circular sent to him offering a copy of 
Walton for sale: "We here offer a perfect copy of this precious little 
gem, for every page is genuine, and there is not so much as a page in 
facsimile. The last perfect copy brought by auction £310 [about 
SI, SCO] and the present one we consider to be reasonably priced. It 
is the first issue of the first edition, and contains the misprint on page 
245, 'contention' for 'contentment.'" 
To this the author adds: "The price asked was £235 (about $1,175). 
All good 'Waltons' go to America. Messrs. Pickering & Chatto have 
since informed me they sold this fine copy to an American collector." 
Mr. Marston's book is delightful reading from beginning to end, and 
is full of rare information about the old angling writers that will be 
new and interesting to most readers, but I have given so much space 
to Walton that I must leave the other old worthies to speak for them- . 
selves in the book. 
I have, however, a small bone to pick with the author. In a note on 
page 60 he says: "On referring to my copy of Rev. W. B. Daniel's 
'Rural Sports,' I find I am able to supply an omission in the 'Biblio- 
*"Walton and Some Earlier Writers on Fish and Fishing." By R. 
B. Marston, editor of the Fishing Gazette, Honorary Treasurer of the 
lly-F^shers' Club. London: Elliot Stock. New York: Armstrong 
&Bon. 1894. 
