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FOREST AND STREAM. 
[NOV. 3, 1894. 
The Common Sense of It. 
(An Editorial in the Rochester Post-Express.") 
-'At the meeting of the Genesee Valley Fish and Game 
Protective Association yesterday, reports were received from 
various officers who have been trying to protect the fish 
from the nets and dynamite of the poachers. 
It was said that the game protectors on Irondequot Bay, 
Long Pond, Buck Pond and Round Pond, have been very 
energetic ia the pursuit of offenders against the game laws 
and that there was less illegal fishing during the past season 
than ever before. The inspector who has been watching the 
ponds has brought forty-seven actions at law against 
offenders and secured convictions in all but six cases; and 
he captured no less than 142 nets. The inspector in charge 
of Conesus Lake, spoke of the difficulties in his way and 
complained that it was very hard to secure the conviction of 
offenders. There is much illegal fishing in this lake. The 
inspector has captured three jack lights, forty-three set lines, 
two large seines and twelve gill nets since spring; but these 
represent but a small part of the illegal devices in Conesus. 
At Hemlock Lake there has also been a great amount of 
illegal fishing and the inspector seems to have disregarded 
in a shameful way the duties and responsibilities of his 
office. Many complaints have been made of the use of set 
lines and of the spearing of fish, but not a single arrest has 
been made by the inspector and no illegal device has been 
captured. It was said that though the office was worth $600 
a year, the inspector had done nothing to earn the money. 
Accordingly a resolution was passed asking for his removal 
and the appointment of a more efficient and faithful man. 
The protector in charge of the upper river and Black Creek, 
reported that six nets and two set lines had been captured in 
the creek and that seven persons had been convicted of 
violating the law, The inspector said that in his opinion 
illegal fishing in Black Creek was nearly done away with. 
We give this summary of the reports in order that our 
readers may understand precisely what has been accom- 
plished in this region of the State toward the protection of 
the streams and ponds. We think they will agree with us 
that the reports are encouraging, but that there is great 
need of increased vigilance and of more relentless pursuit of 
offenders. 
The fact is, that the fishing in Monroe county is about as 
poor as it is on the dry and treeless prairies of the great West. 
It is simply no good. 
With the expenditure of money and a strict enforcement of 
the law, the fishing here might be made as good as any in the 
world. Within a few minutes' ride from the center of the 
city are many streams, ponds and bays, and the river flows 
through the city, and the lake is easy of access. These 
waters are the natural homes of bass, pickerel, pike and 
perch. It is fun to catch such fish, and it is pleasant to eat 
them. These waters should be teeming with fish, so that 
even the most unskillful angler could catch all he wanted. 
Let us suppose, merely for the sake of illustration, that there 
are 60,000 families in Monroe county; then if each family 
could secure fish for one meal a week from June to Novem- 
ber inclusive from the public waters of the county, and each 
meal were valued at 25 cents, the total saving would be 
nearly §400,000 a year in the cost of food. 
How foolsih it is for this community to permit poachers 
to catch fish with nets and kill them with dynamite, and 
destroy food worth many thousands of dollars. Every per- 
son familiar with the subject knows that the poachers who 
use nets to capture fish of all kinds, that a few are sold and 
a few are consumed by the poacher's family, but that the 
greater number are thrown away. We have been told of a 
farmer who drove away from the shore of a near-by lake 
with a wagonload of fish of all kinds; he used a few in his 
family, gave away a few to his neighbors and dumped the 
remainder on his land! The use of dynamite is even worse 
than nets in destructiveness, for fish of all sizes, even those 
too small for the hook or the net, are killed. In streams 
like Black Creek and Irondequoit Creek, where the chan- 
nels in places are deep and the banks high, dynamite is fear- 
fully destructive and one discharge of the explosive has been 
known to kill fish enough to fill a boat. The rascally poach- 
ers gather up the largest fish as they float on the top of the 
water and let the small ones drift down the stream. For 
each fish that they secure they may kill a hundred. This 
lawless destruction of fish has been going on in Monroe 
county to the verge of extermination. We have quoted the 
inspector in charge of the upper river and Black Creek as 
saying that poaching on Black Creek has practically ceased. 
We do not think that from a point on the stream a mile 
above the aqueduct down to the mouth — a distance, as the 
stream runs, of three miles or so— there are a dozen fish over 
4in. in length, and probably these are wormy rock bass. 
A few days ago two Rochester gentlemen, eager for out- 
door air and exercise, rowed from the State dam at the 
rapids to Black Creek, and up that stream for three miles. 
A dozen men were fishing on the river, ten were fishing at 
the mouth of Black Creek, four were strolling along the 
banks of the stream, and fifteen lines were soaking in the 
water at the acqueduct. This was a total of forty-one fish- 
ermen. Some of them, indeed most of them, had been fish- 
ing for hours. The bait was good enough, consisting of min- 
nows, grasshoppers, crabs, frogs and earthworms; and most 
of the fishermen seemed to be provided with suitable tackle, 
and to know how to use it. And yet the forty-one men, fish- 
" ing for many hours, had caught only four fish. It is no 
wonder that the poachers are not wasting their time on 
Black Creek. There are no fish there now, and on the river 
the fishing is poorer than in years. 
On the bay and the ponds to the north the fishing has been 
very poor the past season. It is astonishing that tne owners 
of hotels and other resorts at these places are not vigilant 
p rotectors of the fish. It is amazing that the owners of the 
railway lines do not insist upon the enforcement of the law. 
Thousands of dollars are expended every year for brass bands 
and entertainments of all sorts to attract the crowds to the 
resorts, but the fishing, which ought to be made the greatest 
attraction of all, is not improved. Irondquoit Bay might be 
made a wonderful reservoir of fish, and in that case it would 
be the most popular resort near Rochester; the railroads 
would make money, the hotel owners would get rich, and 
real estate would speedily double in value. 
Money should be used in stocking all our streams and 
ponds, the public waters should be protected more carefully, 
and offenders should be prosecuted more vigorously. We 
think this is very important. As matters stand, fish are so 
high, nets are so cheap, the risk of being detected is so small 
and the punishment is so light that the laws are violated 
continually. 
Robert M. Sturgeon, managing editor of the Harrisburg Call, was 
fishing at beautiful Kiverview last week, and took home to Harris- 
burg the following story, which appears in the Call to-day: "Al. 
Stoner, of York county, one of the most expert down-the-river fisher- 
men, says that the low stage of the river and the absence of bait fish 
in aud around the grass plots has made the bass more than usually 
voracious and at times they become so desperate that they Jeap and 
devour swallows. Of late this has been noticed and it has occurred 
about dusk when the swallows are in tbe habit of just skimming the 
water. Their failure to bite he attributes to the clearness of the 
water and shyness of the fish."— York (Pa.) Daily. 
The Forest and Stream is put to press each week on Tues- 
day. Correspondence intended for publication should reach 
US at the latest by Monday, and as much earlier as practicable 
FIXTURES, 
DOG SHOW8. 
Oct. 30 to Nov. 3— Terrier Show, by New England Kennel Club, at 
Country Club, Brookline, Mass. D. E. Loveland, Sec'y, 128 Tremont 
street, Boston. 
Nov. 14.— Gordon Setter Club's Trials, at Assonefc, Mass. L. A. Van 
Zandt, Yonkers, N. Y„ Sec'y. * 
1895. 
Feb. 19 to 33.— "Westminster Kennel Club's nineteenth annual show, 
at New York. James Mortimer, Supt. 
Feb. 26 to March 1.— Mascoutah Kennel Club, at Chicago. J. L. 
Lincoln, Sec'y. 
FIELD TRIALS. 
Nov. 5.— United States Field Trial Club, at Bicknell, Ind. P. T. 
Madison, Indianapolis, Ind., Sec'y. 
Nov. 6.— International Field Trials, at Chatham, Ont. W. B. Wells. 
Sec'y. 
Nov. 13.— New England Field Trial Club, Members' Sweepstake. A. 
R. Sharp, Sec'y, Tauuton, Mass. 
Nov. 16.— Eastern Field Trials Club, at Newton. N. C. All-Aged, 
Eastern Subscription and Selling Stakes. Entries close Oct. 1. W. A. 
Coster, Saratoga Springs, N. Y.. Sec'y. 
Dec, 17.— Southern Field Trials, at New Albany, Miss. T. M. Brumby, 
Sec'y, Marietta, Ga. 
Eastern Field Trials Entries. - 
All- Age Stake. 
ENGLISH SETTEES. 
Minnie T.— W. W. Titus's black, white and tan bitch 
(Dick Bondhu— Betty B.). 
Antonia— Eldred Kennels' black, white and tan bitch 
(Antonio — Miss Nellie Y.). 
Livingston of Rhoxbe— J. W. Shriver's black, white and 
tan dog (Gath's Mark— Cosette), Jan. 2, 1893. 
Monitor— J. W. Shriver's liver and white dog (Gath's 
Hope— Cleo S.), Aug. 12, 1892. 
Jack Berwyn— J. W. Shriver's black, white and tan dog 
(Berwyn Pride— Nettie G.), July 2, 1892. 
Sandy Gladstone— S. Murray Mitchell's orange and 
white dog (Breeze Gladstone — Delaware), 3yrs. 
LUCEETIA— B. E. J. Eils's black, white and tan bitch 
(Count Gladstone IV.— Marietta), 27mos. 
Mecca— T. E. Shreve's black, white and tan bitch (Paul 
Gladstone — Latonia), 3Xyrs. 
Blue Ridge Mark— Blue Ridge Kennels' black, white 
and tan dog (Gath's Mark— OUie T.), 3>£yrs. 
Dick Fox— Blue Ridge Kennels' black, white and tan 
dog (Chance— Countess Rush), 3^yrs. 
BESSIE Shoupe— Blue Ridge' Kennels' black, white and 
tan bitch (Gath's Hope — Countess Rush), 2%yrs. 
Allene— Blue Ridge Kennels' black, white and tan bitch 
(Gath's Mark— Ruby's Girl), 2>^yrs. 
Sot/BRETTE— E, J. Meyers's black and white bitch (Rowdy 
Rod— Prince Donna), July 24, 1892. 
Sadie Rose — Robert Cooper's black, white and tan dog 
(Gath's Hope — Tempest), 2%yrs. 
Dame Durden— H. S. Bevans's black, white and tan bitch 
(Eugene T.— Dell Rivers), 2Kyrs. 
Amethyst— C. F. Joyce's black, white and tan bitch (Count 
Gladstone— Tory Diamond), 2>£yrs. 
Maiden Mine — Pierre Lorillard, Jr.'s, lemon and white 
bitch (Vanguard— Georgia Bell), 4yrs. 
Antevolo— Pierre Lorillard, Jr.'s, liver and white bitch 
(Count Noble— Trinkett II.), 4yrs. 
Ightfield Rosalie— Pierre Lorillard, Jr.'s, lemon and 
white bftch (Fred — Rosa), 2>£yrs. 
EUGENE T.— Pierre Lorillard, Jr.'s, black, white and tan 
dog (Count !Noble— Ruby's Girl), 4yrs. 
Beryl — Pierre Lorillard, Jr.'s, black, white and tan bitch 
(Gladstone's Boy— Ruby D.), July 17, 1892. 
Topsy Rod— Avent & Thayer Kennels' black, white and 
tan dog (Roderigo— Topsy Avent), July 4, 1S92. 
TATE— Avent & Thayer Kennels' black, white and tan dog 
(Jean Val Jean — Mamy Avent), Aug. 12, 1892. 
Tory Sandstone— F. R. Hitchcock's black, white and tan 
dog (Count Gladstone IV.— Tory Diamond), July 1, 1893. 
Tory Topaz— F. R. Hitchcock's black, white and tan bitch 
(Count Gladstone— Tory Diamond), July 1, 1893. 
CAmille II.— D. G. Rowland's black, white and tan bitch 
(Roderigo— Topsy Avent), 4yrs. 
POINTERS. 
Romp III. — R, -T. Martinez's liver and white ticked dog 
(Coney's Fritz— Dolly), 5%yrs. 
King of Lynn — Robert Leslie's liver and white dog (Tem- 
pest — Nadjy of Naso), March 18, 1892. 
Delphi— Charlottesville Kennels' liver and white dog (Rip 
Rap— Queen II.), April, 1893. 
Wild Damon— Charlottesville Kennels' liver and white 
dog (Damon— Flora), April, 1890. 
SELAH — Charlottesville Kennels' liver and white ticked 
bitch (Rip Rap— Dolly), March, 1892. 
Tick Boy— Stoddard & Kidwell s black and white dog 
(King of Kent— Bloom), Dec. 28, 1892. 
Hessen's Boy— McGrew & Woodside's black and white 
dog (Duke of Hessen— Barmaid), Oct. 8, 1892. 
Lady Margaret— J. R. Purcell's black and white bitch 
(Dick Swiveler — Countess Bang), 3yrs. 
Subscription Stake. 
R. J. Martinez, of Louisiana — One nomination. 
Charlottesville Kennels of Virginia— One nomination. 
Blue Ridge Kennels, of Virginia — Two nominations. 
Pierre Lorillard, Jr., of New York — One nomination. 
Avent & Thayer Kennels, of Tennessee— Two nomina- 
tions. 
F. R. Hitchcock, of New York— One nomination. 
Major J. R. Purcelll, of Virginia — One nomination. 
Great Selling Stake. 
[ENGLISH SETTERS, 
Jack Burwyn— J. W. Shriver's black, white and tan doe: 
(Burwyn's Pide— Nettie G.), July 2, 1892; 
Ben Ghoil— E. J. Meyers's black and white dog (Rowdy- 
Rod— Prima Donna), July 21, 1892. 
LADY AramintA— Pierre Lor. Hard, Jr.'s, black, white and 
tan bitch (Eugene T,— Dell Rivers), January, 1892. 
Leona— Pierre Lorillard, Jr.'s, black, white and tan bitch 
(Eugene T.— Belle of Hatchie), July 23, 1892. 
Juno— Pierre Lorillard, Jr.'s, black, white and tan bitch 
(Eugene T.— Belle of Hatchie), July 23, 1892. 
Almont A— Pierre Lorillard, Jr.'s, black, white and tan dog 
(Gloster— Mopsa), Feb. 10, 1892. 
Longfellow— Pierre Lorillard, Jr.'s, black, white and tan 
dog (Blade — Maggie Gladstone), January, 1892. 
Topsy Ranger— Avent & Thayer Kennels' black, white 
and tan dog (Roderigo— Topsy Avent), July 4, 1892. 
Tory Topaz — F. R. Hitchcock's black, white and tan. 
bitch (Count Gladstone IV,— Tory Diamond), July 1, 1893. 
Tory Jess — F. R. Hitchcock's black, white and tan bitch 
(Count Gladstone— Molly), September, 1893. 
Tory Sol (formerly Snupkins)— F. R. Hitchcock's black, 
white and tan dog (Roi d'Or — Tory Diamond), January, 1893. 
Capitol— J. W. Shriver's black, white and tan dog (Sam — 
Laura), May 10, 1891. 
Mark H. — Shriver & Myers's blue belton dog (Count. 
Rapier— Belle of Hatchie), March 4, 1890. 
Dick Fox — Blue Ridge Kennels' black, white and tan dog 
(Chance — Countess Rush), 3Xyrs. 
Sadie Ross— Robert Cooper's black, white and tan bitch 
(Gath's Hope— Tempest), 2%yrs. 
POINTERS. 
Pop Grace— L. W. White's liver and white dog (Rap of 
Pearl — Lady Grace), lyr. 
Maud— T. H. Gibbes's liver and white bitch (Rush of Lad 
—Topsy L.), 3yrs. 
■ T. H. Gibbes's liver and white bitch (Rip Rap— 
Gibbes's Maud), 15mos. 
Pete— Col. C. H. Odell's black and white dog (Roger Wil- 
liams— Gibbes's Maud), 2>..'yrs. 
Bob— Col. C. H. Odell's liver and white dog (Beppo III.— 
Gibbes's Maud). 
Flock— J. R. Purcell's lemon and white dog (Staunch- 
Flake), 4yrs. 
Sam Bang— J. R. Purcell's lemon and white dog (Dick 
Swiveller— Countess Bang), 3yrs. 
Washington A. Coster, Sec'y. 
Saratoga Springs, N. Y. 
Tick Boy in the Manitoba Trials. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
Mr. W. B. Wells, of Chatham, Ont., gives, in a recent issue 
of your paper, his reason for not placing the pointer Tick Boy 
in the late Manitoba trials. Will you allow me a short 
reply? 
He says had it not been for his rank: piece of work in the 
first heat, flushing and chasing, he would have been placed 
higher. He also says he was told to stick to the rule that 
reads, 'All dogs must be thoroughly broken, as a matter of 
course." 
Now, what I wish to know is, why, if in the first heat he 
was so rank, he wasn't thrown out then, and not brought 
into the second and third series? If he flushed and chased 
in the first heat, and could not win anything on that account, 
what was to be gained by keeping him in when, no matter 
how good his other work should be, that rule about broken 
dogs was staring him in the face? 
As Tick Boy ran a very good heat with the winner in the 
second series, and showed up well with the winner of third 
in the third series, showing no inclination to chase or flush 
willfully, if he was being kept in to see whether he was 
broken or not, I think he proved conclusively that he was. 
I know nothing of the trials except what 1 have read, but all 
reports have been very favorable to the dog, 
I am not kicking against Mr. Wells's judgment, but must 
congratulate him on giving such general satisfaction, as but 
few men could judge a field trial alone and have less mis- 
takes', if any at all. 
I am interested in. the pointer Tick Boy, and am willing to 
learn anything relating to field trials and field trial judging, 
and that is why I ask for an explanation. 
W. L. Kidwell. 
Washington, D. C. 
The Montreal Kennel Association. 
A LARGE and enthusiastic meeting was held in Montreal 
on the 26th inst., which resulted in the formation of the 
above-named association. It was agreed that the scope of 
the association should be as wide as possible. The interests 
of the dog in every way would be fostered as far as the 
society could; so that the attention of members would not be 
given merely to the holding of shows, local or otherwise, 
but mutual instruction would be a chief end, and the sym- 
pathy of the general public secured by showing that the 
"fancy" points of dogs did not engross the entire interests of 
the association. 
The following officers were elected: Patron, Sir Donald 
Smith; Hon. Presidents, Sir Joseph Hickson and Samuel 
Cardson; President, Prof. Wesley Mills, M. D.; Vice-Presi- 
dents, W. H. Drummond, M. D., and Jos. Lindsay; Secre- 
tary-Treasurer, Geo. Lanigan; Executive Committee, Messrs. 
Wm. Robb, D.V.S.; J. C. Nichol, L.D.S.; McCullough, 
Smith, Pitt, Beautield, Ekers and McNally. 
A committee was appointed to draw up a constitution and 
by-laws. It is proposed to hold regular mouthly meetings 
at which papers will be read, discussions h^ld and specimens 
shown. L. A. Klein, president of the Eastern Township 
Kennel Club, was made an honorary foundation or original 
member. 
The Collie Club. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
Some few weeks since you expressed surprise at the 
scarcity of Canadian members of the Collie Club. Might I 
ask what advantages may be obtained by joiniug the club? 
I know the club offers annually a few five and two dollar 
medals and two challenge cups; but the conditions under 
which the latter are offered are such that none but a very 
wealthy breeder can ever obtain posession of either. There 
was some talk at the last New York show of a Produce 
stake, but as no effort has been made to get entries it has 
probably been abandoned. 
Practically speaking, the Collie Club is unknown and the 
object for which it was formed has been lost sight of en- 
tirely. The ma jority of the executive committee is composed 
of men who are but little known in the kennel world of to- 
day and are not actively intei-ested in the breed whose 
interests they are elected to care for. Until this is remedied 
and the club shows some disposition to "promote the breed- 
ing of collies and protect and advance the interests of the 
breed," I do not think the scarcity of members, either 
Canadian or American, should cause any one surprise. 
Scottie. 
Forest and Stream Fan Pedigree Blank. 
For some time past breeders of dogs have demanded a ped- 
igree form that wonld afford spaces for amore extended ped- 
igree than those hitherto published. The difficulty has been 
in arranging a form that, while admitting the required exten- 
sion, would be compact and not too large for mailing. This 
difficulty has been solved in the "Forest and Stream Fan 
Pedigree Blank" which is so arranged that a dog's pedigree 
can be recorded for eight generations, and the spaces radia- 
ting from a, center, the reader is enabled to trace at a glance 
the different strains which lead from sire and dam. Spaces 
are also provided for recording the name of dog, its lueed, 
color, sex, breeder and address, dates of birth and purchase, 
from whom purchased, E. K. C. and A. K. C. Stud Book 
numbers and certification. These blanks are for sale at $2.00 
per hundred, 30c. per doz. by the Forest and Stream Pub. 
•Co., 318 Broadway, New York. 
Eastern Field Trials. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
The Board of Governors of the Eastern Field Trials Club 
have postponed the meeting umil Monday, Nov. 19. The 
trials will commence with the Members' Stake on Monday 
the 19th, and on Wednesday, November 21, the regular 
trials open with the Derby. On conclusion of this stake the 
others will follow in order of running as heretofore adver- 
tised to the end of the meeting. The above nas been done 
in consideration of the handlers who have puppies running 
at U. S. Trials at Bicknell, lud., and who will attend tbe 
Eastern meeting, giving plenty of time to get to Newton and 
rest the puppies. 
Washington A. Coster, Sec'y and Treas. 
Saratoga Springs, N. Y., Oct. 33. 
