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FOREST AND STREAM. 
[Nov. 17, 18M. 
Eastern Coursing Kennels' red bitch Butterflies (Royal Crest— Dry- 
time) beat R. S. Howard ns, CD. M. Sidle's) red bitch Siddie Secret 
(ijaughed At— Lady Maud). 
Dr. Q. Van Hummell's brindle and -white bitch Van Ollie (Gem of 
the Season— Wild Rose) beat C. Audas's brindle bitch Queen Victoria 
(Spot— Lulu). 
R. S. Howard ns (D. M. Sidle's) black bitch Lizzie Lee (Norwegian- 
Dick's Darling) beat H. C. Lowe's brindle and white bitch Lonely 
(Lord Neversettle— Partera). 
D. C. Luse's fawn hitch Fascination (Norwegian — Bueneretiro) beat 
S. W. Vidder's black bitch Valletta (Miller's Rab— Comedy). 
Dr. J. M. Norman ns. (J. P: Cochran's fawn and white bitch Pearl 
(Laughed At— Lady Maud) a bye. 
Second Boudd. 
Butterflies beat Lady Alko. Pearl beat Fascination. 
Lizzie Lee a bye; Van Ollie dr. 
Third Bound. 
Pearl beat Butterflies. Lizzie Lee a bye. 
Deciding Course. 
Pearl beat Lizzie Lee and won. 
B. 
[Our report not having arrived on time we can only give 
the results this week.] 
A. C. A. Executive Committee Meeting. 
Albany, N. T.. Nov. IS, 189U. 
Official Reports 1 893-4. 
The twelfth annual meeting of the executive committee of the 
American Canoe Association was held in Albany on Nov. 12, Com. 
Witherbee presiding. The meeting was called to order at 10 A. M. in 
a parlor of the Hotel Kenmore, the following officers and members 
being present: Com. W. C. Witherbee, Sec. -Treas. C. E. Cragge, 
Librarian W. P. Stephens; Atlantic Division, Vice-Corn. H. L. Quick, 
Purser Thos. Hale, Jr., ex-Com. I. V. Dorland, J. K. Hand and H. H. 
Smythe; Central Division, Vice-Corn. C. G. Belman, Purser W. S. 
Hackett, ex-Com. W. R. Huntington ; Eastern Division, Vice-Corn. R. 
Appollonio. Purser Cutler by proxy, A. W. Dodd, ex-Com. Dr. G. L. 
Parmele; Northern Division, Vice-Com. W. L. Scott, Rear-Com. J. W. 
Sparrow. Messrs. Wilkin, Butler and Winne of the board of govern- 
ors were present, while Mr. Edwards was represented by Mr. Scott. 
There were also present Messrs. F. A. Nickerson, F. H. Metcalf, J. R. 
Robertson, L. W. Francis, L. B. Palmer, W. L. Dudley, R. |A. Wads- 
worth and W. B. Davidson. 
The minutes of the previous meeting not being at hand, a motion 
was carried to dispense with the reading of them. The reports of the 
secretary- treasurer and the camp-site commi l 'tee were then read and 
accepted. The report of the Atlantic Division was read, and ex- 
Com. Dorland called attention to the interpretation therein of the 
word "receipts" in Chap. I., Sec. 2 of the by-laws, under which the 
back dues for previous years collected in 1894 were not included in the 
total receipts to be paid to the A. C. A. treasury. After remarks by 
several members, the following motion was offered by Vice-Com. 
Quick, seconded by Dr. Parmele: 
Besoived, That it is the sense of the executive committee that Par. 
2, Sec. 2, Chap. I. of the by-laws be construed as follows: "The re- 
ceipts for the Division in which the meet is held shall include all 
moneys received during that year; and the percentage due the Associ- 
ation from the other divisions shall be figured on the total of all dues 
and entrance fees received during the year." 
On motion of Mr. Dorland, the report waB ordered returned to the 
purser for correction, there being still due to the A. C. A. treasury 
some $25 more under the above ruling. 
The reports of the Central, Eastern and Northern Divisions were 
then read and accepted. The proposal of Sec'y-Treas. Douglass, pub- 
lished in the Forest and Stream of Oct. 27, to amend the Constitution 
in Art. V., Sec. 2, par. 8, to make the terms of the Division officers 
concurrent with those of the Association officers, from Oct 1; was 
taken up after discussion was carried. 
Com. Witherbee then announced the following committees for 1895: 
CampSite: W. R. Huntington, chairman; J. R. Robertson, L. W. 
Francis and Clarence Ashenden. Regatta: M. V. Brokaw, chairman; 
F. A. Nickerson, H R. Tilley. Transportation: C. V. Winne, J. K. 
Hand. F. H. Metcalf, R. E. Burns. Signal Officer: Dr. C. A. Neid6. 
Fleet Surgeon: Dr. W. M. Nellis. 
Mr. Huntington then made a verbal report for the new campsite 
committee; the following motion, by Mr. Dorland, seconded by Vice- 
Com. Belman, being passed after a brief discussion: Resolved, That 
the report of the camp site committee for 1895 be accepted, and that 
their recommendation, that Bluff Point, on Lake Champlain, be 
selected as the site of the 1895 camp, be concurred in. Considerable 
discussion followed over the matter of the date, whether from Aug. 9 
to 16, or Aug. 9 to 23, the latter being finally adopted. Mrs. H. V. 
Backus, of Rochester, was elected an associate member; other names 
presented too late for publication in advance being left for a vote by 
mail. 
Mr. Winne tendered to the canoeists present, on behalf of the Mohi- 
con C. C. an invitation to a "Commers" at the Fort Orange Club in 
the evening, which was accepted with a vote of thanks. Mr. Stephens, 
as chairman of the special committee on future camp sites, then called 
the attention of the executive committee to the motion of Mr. Wilkin 
adopted at a meeting of the persons in camp at the last meet, instruct- 
ing the executive committee to discbarge the committee; requesting 
that this be done. Mr, Wilkin spoke on the question, again urging 
the discharge of the committee. After a little discussion, a motion to 
adjourn was carried, and all went to lunch with Com. Witherbee in 
the hotel dining room. When the meeting re-convened at 2.40 P. M. 
Mr. Dorland brought up the question of the site committee, speaking 
very strongly of the work expected of the committee, and of the dis- 
courteous reception which their efforts had met, finally moving, in 
accordance with the wishes of the different members, that the com- 
mittee be discharged, which was done. 
The report of the retiring regatta committee was not at hand, but 
the chairman, Vice-Com. Quick, introduced a proposal to institute 
handicaps by classes in those races outside of the trophy, record and 
unlimited, the general plan proposed being to place the racing men 
in one of three classes, with a fixed allowance for each class. Several 
plans were suggested by which the three classes could be made to 
finish without time allowance to be added afterward. The plan met 
with general approval, and the following motion was adopted, as 
offered by Vice-Com. Quick: Resolved, That it is the sense of- the ex- 
ecutive committee that the regatta committee shall make all races as 
far as possibte handicap races, except the trophy and record races; 
and that the handicapping be made in difference of time in starting. 
All the details will be left to the new regatta committee. Vice-Com. 
Quick then called attention to the growing practice of giving valuable 
prizes, presented for the purpose to the Association, in addition to the 
silk flags as called for by the racing rules. No action was taken. 
A long discussion followed over the revising of the list of lady mem- 
bers, being ended at last by a motion to instruct the vice-commodore 
of each division to appoint a special committee from the division ex- 
ecutive committee with power to revise the list for that division, to 
report to the secretary-treasury by Feb. 1. The matter of omitting 
the flags of the various canoe clubs from the Year Book was discussed, 
and it was decided that in view of the considerable cost of revising 
and correcting the present plates, the flags be omitted. The meeting 
then adjourned. 
A meeting of the Board of Governors was held at 4 P. M., there 
being present Com. Witherbee, Sec.-Treas. Cragge, Pres. Wilkin, and 
Messrs. Huntington, representing Mr. Winne, the recorder, Butler 
and Scott, the latter representing Mr. Edwards. After a full discus- 
sion of the finances of the Association, it was voted to set aside the 
present balance of about $650 for a temporary sinking fund, and to 
apportion 80 per cent, of the income for 1895 for the expenses of the 
year, the balance to be added to the sinking fund. To accommodate 
the secretary-treasurer until the next year's dues are collected, the 
sum of £250 was advanced from the sinking fund, the balance to be 
deposited in the hands of the president and recorder. It was resolved 
that in cases where a meeting may not be necessary, a mail vote may 
be taken, and that no money shall be appropriated for any purpose 
except upon the affirmative vote of three members of the board. 
At 7:30 the committee and visiting canoeists to the number of 42 
assembled in one of the hotel dining rocn:s ai the guests of Com. 
Witherbee, a very elegant dinner being spread for them. When the 
dinner terminated at 10 o'clock, a delegation from the Mohican O. C. 
was in waiting to escort the entire party to the Fort Orange Club, 
where an elegant and substantial cold spread, with pipes and beer, 
was prepared in a large inclosed piazza of the club house. The 
orchestra from the hotel dining room was already in position in a 
high balcony when the guests reached the club house, and played 
throughout the evening. Among the large number present were 
many old A. C. A. men, and the whole affair was a most enjoyable 
reunion of old friends. The fun kept up with songs, stories and danc- 
ing until the visitors from out of town departed to catch the early 
morning trains, long after midnight, all carrying with them a lively 
appreciation of the hospitality both of Com. Witherbee and the Mo- 
hicans. 
Report of Secretary-Treasurer, 1894. 
Receipts. 
To balance sec.-treas. R. Easton Burns, as per report $278 14 
To which was added an increase from Northern Division of . .. A 71 
And a remittance from the K. C. C. to be credited to 1893 of . . 5 00 
Making an actual balance of 3886' 85 
In addition Mr. Burns turned over $25 worth of transporta- 
tion on the N. Y. Central R.R,, which I sold at the rate of 
a fare and a third, for a net result of 16 67 
Atlantic Division, full income 326 00 
Central Division, 30# 63 30 
Eastern Division, 30# 100 20 
Year Book 55117 
Postage on Year Book 43 92 
Camp dues 273 00 
Sale signal codes 5 60 
Camp site committee, returned amount overpaid 29 45 
Subscriptions for regatta expenses 55 00 
Total 31,751 16 
Nov. 9, Northern Division, 30# 31 20 
Final total 31,782 36 
Expenditures. 
Office expenses , 350 95 
General expenses , 28 80 
Express charges 11 55 
Year Book 372 25 
Postage and addressing Year Books 50 00 
Camp site committee 344 60 
Regatta committee ($45.29) prize flags ($23.25) 71 54 
Camp expenses, paid by secretary-treasurer , , , . 243 52 
Balance ,. 609 15 
$1,782 36 
There are no claims against the Association, or outstanding 
bills. 
Newark, N. J., Nov. 9, 1894. Geo. P. Douglass, Sec.-Treas. 
The undersigned committee appointed by 
Commodore Irving V. Dorland, to audit 
the accounts of the Sec.-Treas., George 
P. Douglass, find the same correctly kept 
and properly vouched. 
Harry S Farmer, No. 1553. \ >.„ A ^ nr „ 
Richard Hobart, No. 1260. (■• a - UQlcors - 
Report of Camp S ite Committee. 
Brooklyn, Oct. 23.— Irving V. Dorland, Esq., Commodore A. C. A.: 
In accordance with the custom your camp site committee beg to hand 
you its annual report of the expenses attending the arrangements of 
the camp located at Croton Point on the Hudson. 1894. 
The committee's expenditures in full were as follows: 
Expenditures. 
Labor, 15 men in all, and also for teams, etc $371 87 
Lumber 379 03 
Three pumps, nails, tubing, etc 16 85 
Flag poles, etc 29 20 
Printing receipts, etc., also for postage and expenses at camp, . . 12 50 
Making change 70 
$810 15 
Beceipts. 
Receipts from Geo. P. Douglas, Sec'y-Treas $315 15 
From members for labor and lumber 439 50 
From W. A. Hnderhill Brick Co., lumber, pumps, flag poles, 
etc., sold 55 50 
$810 15 
Of the above expenditures your committee feels that it is proper to 
call your attention to one item, namely, that of the work done and 
material used for headquarters, which was 345.80. 
The balance of the charges were for tht> benefit of every member of 
the camp, and this item we feel, should stand by itself, so as to become 
a record for future administrations. 
Your committee further report that it has in hand outstanding bills 
of $2.50, two of which it is unable to locate, and one which is con- 
tested, and in regard to these matters we recommend that no further 
action be taken. 
Trusting that the work of the committee has met with the approval 
of the members this report is respectfully submitted. 
as, j camp A s c te A c °^ ittee ' 
Raymond Apollonio, ) B A * u ley *" 
Brooklyn, Oct. 23, 1894. 
Audited and found correct. 
Percy F. Hogan I Auditora 
W. McK. Miller f Auaitors - 
Reports of Pursers. 
Atlantic Division. 
Beceipts. 
Balance from Purser F. L. Dunnell $86 73 
Dues from 1892 3 00 
» " 1893 21 00 
" ft 1894 275 00 
u t. 1895 . . 1 00 
Entrance fees, 1894'.'.'.'.'. .'.'.','.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.".'.'.' '.'.'.'.'.'.".'.'.! 70 00 
Regatta Committee 5 00 
R. B. Burchard '94 aca't. atn't returned from '93 appropriation.. 3 CO 
$464 73 
Expenditures 
Regatta Committee, 1893 $3 50 
Office expenses 44 09 
Postage— A. C. A. Year Book 13 00 
Secretary-Treasurer, G. P. Douglass 326 00 
Collection charges 26 20 
Balance 51 94 
$464 73 
Nov. 1, 1894, balance to Purser T. Hale, Jr 51 9 4 
Membership. 
Members, Oct. 1, 1893 293 
New members 70 
Reinstated 3 
366 
Resigned 4 
Transferred 2 
Dropped 65—91 
Total membership Nov. 1, 1894 \ 275 
F. L. Dunnell, Purser. 
Audited and found correct. 
Robert H. Peebles, } A „j f f nrs , 
Thos. Hale, Jr. f AUQltors - 
Central Division. 
Membership. 
Number of members, as per last report .147 
New members , 25 
Transferred from other divisions 2 
Reinstated 23, dropped 9. Gain . , , 14 
Present membership 188 
Beceipts. 
Balance from C. E. Ward well, Purser $301 29 
Back dues ^3 00 
Dues for current year , , 1E3 00 
Entrance fees , 25 00 
$512 29 
Expenditures. 
Express on books $ 85 
Printing circulars, etc 17 00 
Printing 1 00 
Postage on Year Books 7 04 
A. C. A. Treas (&0% dues and fees to date) 57 90 
Printing aid envelopes , • , 150 
Office expenses for year 10 47 
A. C. A. Treas., bal. of 30# 5 40 
Balance on hand 411 13 
Port Htnrv, N. Y., Oct. 81. 
Audited and found correct. 
J OA. Neide, No. 14, 
S. W. Francis No. 2357, 
$512 29 
Chas. E. Cragg, Purser. 
Eastern Division. 
Beceipts. 
Balance Oct. 1, 1893 $42 73 
Dues, 1893 ,. 1 00 
Dues, 1894 281 00 
Initiation fees , , 52 00 
$376 73 
Expenditures. 
Stationery, printing, etc $39 10 
Postage on Year Books 16 80 
Expense at Eastern Division -meet 187 31 
Sundry office expenses 14 6<5 
Thirty per cent, dues A. C. A. Treasurer 100 20 
Balance NOV/.5, 1894 18 66 
$376 73 
Membership. 
Number of members Nov. 1, 1893, , 340 
New members , 52 
Reinstated 1 
393 
Dropped for non-payment .103 
Resigned 8 
Died 1-112 
Number of members Nov. 5, 1894 281 
Boston, Nov. 5. R. Apollonio, Purser. 
Northern Division. 
Beceipts. 
Amount forward former purser, 
Dues, 1894 " 104 00 
.$ 92 
$104 92 
Expenditures. 
Printing and stationery $ S 75 
Postage 13 47 
Sundries, cartage and expenses , 1 70 
Thirty per cent, to Sec'y Douglass , 31 20 
Cash on hand 49 SO 
$104 92 
Membership. 
Number of members 1893. 1 76 
Reinstated 1 
New members , 7 
Dropped , 
Present membership 
The above report has been audited 
by auditors appointed by Com- 
modore Molson and found to be 
correct. 
Edw. Pratt, ) . :„,,*„;,:, 
Chas. E. Archbald, f Auditors. 
184 
..89 
. 95 
J. R. Kinghorn, Purser. 
A. C. A. Membership. 
Central Division: Miss Margaret C. McVean, Miss Marie B. Mc- 
Vean, Mrs. Augustus M. McDonell, Rochester, N. Y. 
Lord Dunraven's request for the marking and measurement of the 
load waterline and the limitation of crews is not only fair and reason- 
able, but the necessity for some such measurer was made plain by the 
case of Vigilant's "ballast crew." If no limits be fixed and the rules 
be left in their present imperfect state, the only result will be an 
inducement to further evasion by both parties, destroying the equality 
of prime conditions which should existinsuch important international 
contests; and leading to disputes over interpretations of obscure and 
defective rules. If an unlimited crew can be used to advantage in 
such big craft, then the challenger will doubtless be prepared to go 
quite as far as the defender in the future; and we may see the plan in 
practice which was seriously discussed on Vigilant in the last cup 
races, of slinging the crew in life lines outside the rail. All the details 
of crew, measurement and ballast should be governed by fixed rules, 
made before the yachts are designed. 
The request that all windward and leeward matches be started dead 
to windward is fair in itself, in fact, such a stipulation was carefully 
inserted in the new deed of gift; but such a start is often difficult to 
obtain without going far off shore. It is quite unlikely that the Cup 
committee will be any less anxious for a windward course than Lord 
Dunraven himself; but to agree positively on a start dead to wind- 
ward would mean still more numerous failures and postponements. 
Wallace Foote, Jr., No. 2630, ) 
v Auditors. 
The question of a limit to size and sail area is an important one to 
both parties, and should Lord Dunraven's request be acceded to, 
either by the adoption of a sailing length limit or, what would be 
much the same, by a mutual agreement not to exceed a certain area 
of sail for a waterline of not over 90ft., the races would be more in- 
teresting and both parties would be the gainers by the removal of the 
existing incentive to outbuilding and overcanvassinj. The records of 
the past four contests show that the defender has always gained by 
having the more powerful boat and the larger sail plan; but just as 
soon as this advantage is appreciated by the other side, it must dis- 
appear, the challenger also availing himself of it. There is every 
indication at present that Mr. Watson and Lord Dunraven will profit 
by the experience of Valk) rie with Vigilant and by the knowledge of 
the latter boat gained this year; and that the new challenger will be 
up to the 90ft. limit and sparred and canvassed for Sandy Hook and 
not for the Solent or the Irish Sea. Should this prove to be the case, 
the margin for overpowering the challenger, which has been utilized 
so successfully in the cases of Puritan, Mayflower, Volunteer and 
Vigilant, will have disappeared, and while challenger and defender 
must share equally the risks attendant upon over-sparring, neither 
can gain materially from an excess of size. 
If it can be assured that, even in going to the 90ft. limit, Mr. Wat- 
son would build a yacht of Valkyrie's power, leaving the defenders 
free to again outbuild, it would be good judgment for the club to de- 
cline to place any limit on sail. All the circumstances, however , point 
in the opposite direction of a very large and powerful boat as chal- 
lenger; so large that a new attempt at outbuilding will involve 
dangerous risks to spars and gear. It rests with the New York Y. C. 
to place the entire contest on a fairer footing, with advantage to both 
p.irties, by removing the existing premium to a dangerous rivalry in 
overpowering. 
Lord Dunraven's letter clearly shows that nothing final has been 
done, and that the design is still open to changes, according to the 
conditions to be agreed upon. With the matter in this state, a word 
from the New York Y. C. would no doubt remove the competition to 
a smaller class than 90ft., an advantage to the defender rather than 
the challenger, but which the latter would probably agree to. Whatever 
appens, the ' 87-footer'\of 1893 is out of date, as much so as May 
