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best of it in speed and range and cut his open ground out 
more intelligently. Jolly was quite at home in the tangled 
cover, and though some may say she pottered a bit, still it 
seems her style is about what the conditions here require if 
birds are to be found. A good deal or it is simply in and out 
crawling through the briers and water-soaked sedge, 
.-.Lunch at the old barn and the hot coffee and several-years- 
ago chicken sandwiches kept us busy for a time. 
Duke of Kent II. (a bye).— This was run with Our Pet, 
and they put up a fairly good heat. Going into swamp 
again, Pet pointed a single in a thicket and balance of bevy 
flushed. Into the open again both showed speed and range, 
Duke having the best of it, but did not hunt out the likely 
spots with the intelligence of Our Pet. This closed the first 
series, and Tennessee Vandal, Bounce, Bradley and Our Pet 
were kept in. 
Second Series. 
Tewjessee Vandal— Bounce.— Down at 2:08 in stubble. 
After covering considerable mixed ground Bradley pointed 
rather slouchingly at the side of a hedge and Vandal honored 
him stylishly, but nothing came of it. Crossing swamp and 
on the hill, Vandal pointed a fence rail. Some said there 
was a flush, but the nature of the ground made it difficult to 
see. The setter seemed handicapped by the wet and heavy 
going, while the pointer cut through in a rather snappy 
manner and had a little the best in speed and range, while 
his cover work was the more intelligent, and he was under 
better control than the other. Briers and thickets did not 
scare him. 
Bradley— Our Pet.— Down at 2:48 in open field. Rang- 
ing over hills Bradley was first to score at the edge of 
swamp. Pet coming up to back, the dog moved and a bird 
flushed, then another, at which he was cautioned. Making 
a cast round the swamp Pet pointed stylishly on three, but 
rushed in at Sharp's flush. To the right Bradley roaded up 
to another but was not steady to wing. Taken out into the 
open they were called up at 3:04. Both dogs ranged far and 
wide but the cover work was in Pet's favor. Bradley was 
under best control, in fact there was little to choose between 
them. The judge knew just how they stood and announced 
his decision at once: 
Our Pet, first; Bradley second; Bounce, third. 
We did not waste much time in congratulations but made 
for the barges and a sharp drive of, eight miles to the City 
Hotel at Taunton, brought us once more to comfort and 
civilization. Everyone was wet through and there was a 
great run on chest protectors which were served hot. 
After we had dried ourselves thoroughly and partaken of 
a hearty supper, the word was passed round that the Gordon 
men were expected to meet in the paalor, where the filling 
and draw for the Gordon Setter Club's stake was to take 
place. It resulted as follows: 
Hampton Kennels' bitch Jolly G. (Clark's Jake— Darby 
M.), handler, L. A. Pearl, with Noyes Billings's bitch Minnie 
T. (Ranger B, — Diana), handler, J. S. Treen. 
J. B. Blossom's bitch Belmont (Dasher— Blanche IV.), 
handler, W. Tallman, with S. A. Nickerson's dog Count 
Noble (Ben Butler— Belle), handler, C. R. Taylor. 
Alex. G. Coehrane's dog Mac's Paul (Don — Challie), handler, 
W. L. Striegel, ivith Dwight Kennels' dog Heather Lad 
(Heather Nap— Heather Rose), handler, A. L. Orr. 
J. B. Blossom's dog Heather Bruce (Comus— Heather Bee), 
handler, W. Tallmau, with Atwood Collins's dog Shot (Ben 
—Skylark). 
Noyes' Billings's Range B. (Tom II.— Nora), handler, J. S. 
Treen, With J. B. Blossom's bitch Beaumont's Belmont (Beau- 
mont — Belmont), handler, W. Tallman. 
M. Jean Van de Putte, of Ghent, Belgium, and his dog 
Speck did not turn up, much to the regret of the visitors, 
who wanted to see in what language he would point. Herr 
Putte, it was said, had sailed on the Champagne that arrived 
last Sunday, but anyhow he failed to connect and missed a 
hearty welcome and a good deal of tmwholesome physical 
labor that would have given him a wrong impression of 
America. 
A pleasant evening was spent, Mr. E. Knight Sperry filling 
the. ehair most acceptably with beaming smile and generous 
hospitality. "Billy" Tallman was in good form and gave us 
some reminiscences of old field trial work "downsouf," while 
Dan Goodwin's ecclesiastical recitation brought down the 
house. When we retired for the night it was raining hard. 
WEDNESDAY. 
Gordon Setter Sweepstake. 
An early start was made for the long drive to the grounds, 
and though there was no rain the heavy clouds gave no 
promise of fine weather. 
Mr. A. R. Sharp had been prevailed upon to judge, and he 
makes a capital one; his temper is accommodating and he 
was willing to allow the dogs every opportunity to get birds 
if they show the slightest inclination that way. Of this 
stake, as a whole, we must say that there were dogs entered 
which did, under vastly harder conditions than prevailed 
last year, work that was superior to that which was done in 
the last Gordon stake, and Mac's Paul, Minnie T., Ranger B. 
and Jolly G. are dogs that would hold their own with the 
best that have run on these grounds. 
Shot did not put in an appearance, so Heather Bruce ran 
his bye with Minnie T. 
Several of the dogs, for instance Heather Lad, did not 
seem accustomed to this choppy style of hunting, and were 
at a disadvantage. The weather was execrable. Pine when 
we started from Taunton, the dogs had no sooner been cast 
off in the first heat when it commenced to rain, and with 
little let up did so all day, thoroughly soaking us through 
before we had been going more than half an hour. There 
was some thought of postponing the running after lunch, 
but as there was little more to do, we kept at it, and finished 
early. The grounds were wet enough yesterday, but with 
the heavy rain during the night were more so to-day, and it 
would have been difficult even to imagine hunting under 
more adverse circumstances. The wind was northwest, but 
little of it. 
First Series. 
Jolly G.— Minnie T.— Down at 9:10 in cabbage field. 
After working in cover on bottoms we moved to upland and 
Jolly G. pointed, roaded a bib but could not locate — two 
birds flushed, and further on she pointed again on footscent. 
Birds were running and it was difficult to nail them close. 
A man with a hound had scattered the birds and they ran in 
all directions. Little more was done and dogs up at 9:50. 
The hunting conditions were so poor that little test could be 
made of the dog's capabilities. Jolly G. had the best of it in 
range, speed and style, but Minnie did better in cover. 
Count Noble— Belmont.— Down in stubble 9:58. Count 
Noble was seen to have the speed and range though at best 
both were limited, Belmont notwithstanding her years and 
obesity was able to keep up a fair gait. Getting into cover, 
Count poiuted and Belmont swinging round, 50yds. further 
on in the open pointed and roaded the running birds that 
were seen. Then Noble got in ahead and flushed and chased 
the birds. Following the marked birds Count pointed on 
footscent and birds afterwards flushed from the trees — as we 
passed beneath, Neither dog did good work and were not 
under good control. Belmont while not ranging so well was 
fairly wise in the work aud showed better nose, tip at 10:25. 
Mac's Paul— Heather Lad.— Down at 10:30 in pasture 
edge of woods. A lot of open and mixed ground was cov- 
ered, both dogs getting out fairly well, but Paul showed 
more judgment in his casts, while Lad came back to his 
handler too often. Crossing the "prairie," a wide, bare 
stretch of exposed fields, gave them chance to show their 
speed, but they did not take advantage of it. Down in a 
hollow in hedge Paul pointed a bird and Lad, called up to 
back, did so. Paul, sent on to locate, caught the bird, which 
could not fly. It was one of the lot turned down yesterday. 
We met several of these during the day, and they reminded 
us of the first year's trials. Bob Leslie caught one of the 
birds. Further on a few yards Paul nailed another, and Lad 
coming up, refused to back and walked all round the point- 
ing dog, who held steady on a weak bird that was found just 
after. This was poor work for Lad and destroyed his chances. 
All the work was clearly in Mac's Paul's favor, and besides, 
he showed a useful familiarity with the style of country. 
The Heather Bruce-Shot heat was called next, but Shot did 
not respond, so 
Ranger B. — Beaumont's Belmont were put down at 
11:15 in open ground. Beaumont's Belmont at once 
made a wide cast of half a mile and gave us the 
only taste of so-called "high class" ranging seen during 
the trial; after her spurt she was more amenable but did not 
heed her handler as she should have done. She has been 
trained in the South and was only in Mr. Tallman's care a 
few days. Ranger B. ranged out quite snappily and with 
wisdom; he is familiar with the country and knows where 
to look, but was rather unlucky; getting into thick swamp 
birds were seen running aud one flushed ahead of B. Bel- 
mont, and at edge of corn another flushed as B. B. went 
through the thicket. Then after B. B. had passed along 
Ranger nabbed the running birds; these were some of the 
poor weak ones spoken of. Ranger pointed again but B. B. 
instead of backing walked round him and came up to him 
as Ranger left his point, and directly one of the weaklings 
made a flutter and Ranger chased a yard or two and grabbed 
it, but stopped to command; rather excusable, however, 
under the circumstances. A lot more ground was covered 
but nothing transpired. Up at 12:15. Ranger was much 
superior in style and intelligent seeking, and as his work was 
only on those turned down birds that give little scent yet, he 
should have had another chance, as he was clearly the most 
finished worker in the stake. B. Belmont will be spoken of 
further on. 
Heather Bruce, a bye— Running with Minnie T., they 
were put down in open at 1:03. Getting to the swamp 
again Minnie pointed and birds flushed wild, being marked 
to the hillside, where Bruce was found on a sort of point in 
thicket, or stopped on a flush, as the birds were seen to flush 
immediately before. Minnie roading, the birds flushed wild 
again and a lot of backing and filling was done with no de- 
cisive work, until getting over a ridge Minnie drew carefully 
to a point on five birds, which her handler flushed; steady to 
shot and wing. In fallen trees Minnie exhibited a good deal 
of "local" sense, for calmly scanning the top branches and 
seeing nothing, she roaded carefully through thicket to a 
point, but bird was running and was put up to one side. 
Minnie did nearly all the hunting, Bruce sticking to his 
handler and showing little inclination to hunt. Up 1:39. 
Second Series. 
Mac's Paul— Jolly G. Down in stubble at 1:50. Both 
ranged out well though Paul's range showed better system, 
cutting out his field nicely. While down in swamp Minnie 
T. on chain with her handler winded birds on the bare open 
stubble and the heat dogs being called up Mac's Paul made 
a couple of good, wise casts and swinging in across wind 
stiffened stylishly on a large bevy which his handler flushed. 
This was a good strong covey of "natives." Jolly G. backed, 
indifferently. After the scattered birds in swamp Jolly 
pointed and Paul honored her but nothing was found; but 
sent on to locate she did so nicely and both were steady to 
shot and wing. Then Paul swung round and located 
another. Leaving there we worked through swamp and up- 
land for some time and dogs finally up at 2:30. 
The stake was practically decided now, but the judge was 
prevailed upon to give Beaumont's Bellmont who had come 
with something of a reputation, though the reason was not 
apparent to the naked eye, another chance on birds to see if 
she would point. A bevy had been marked in open and she 
was worked to it, but as she was in swamp below birds 
flushed from the field above, and she was never able to locate 
afterward, though given every opportunity. The judge 
flushed one at edge of orchard. The bitch instead of work- 
ing through a thicket where the birds here are likely to be, 
would run round it, shirking her cover work almost entirely. 
She seemed to have no nose, and if she did not smell the 
money it was no fault of judge or handler, they gave her 
every opportunity, displaying much patience, wet through 
and running over as we all were. Called up at 3:20, and 
walking a mile to the old barn the judge rendered his deci- 
sion to the bedraggled company: Mac's Paul first, Jolly G. 
second, Minnie T. third. 
Mac's Paul's win was a popular one and he deserved it, 
and had the judge seen all of Minnie's work, I think she 
might have displaced Jolly, Ranger B., who as far as man- 
ner of hunting and sense displayed was the peer if not 
superior to anything in the stake, and by comparison high 
class should have had another ten minutes when we struck 
the good strong birds. As working on these marked birds 
was no fair test, still in the work actually done the judge's 
decisions are entitled to respect. 
The boys were only too glad to bundle into the barges and 
start for home and dry clothes, vowing once more never to 
walk over those grounds again. But we shall all meet there . 
again next year if nothing happens. H. W. L. 
The Rutherfurd Fox-Terrier Sale. 
A goodly crowd assembled at the American Horse Ex- 
change, New York, on Fridey, Nov. 16, attracted by the 
announcement that Messrs. L. & W. Rutherfurd would dis- 
pose at auction of a draft of their well bred terriers. Mr. 
William Easton handled the mallet, but even his well known 
persuasive powers failed to bring the bids up to anything 
like the proper values. It must be said, however, that with 
few exceptions the draft was an ordinary lot, many of them 
being on the coarse side The majority were whelped this 
year. The highest price obtained was 132, for a Warren Safe- 
guard — Warreh Daisy bitch pup with black and tan mark- 
ings on one ear, and whelped May 2, 1894. She now belongs 
to Mr. C. D. Bernheimer, of New York. A dog pup, whelped 
Jan. 23, 1S94, with the Safeguard markings, by Warren Safe- 
guard — Warren Pansv, she by Pitcher, brought §25 from 
Mr. J. R. Kennedy. A litter sister to Mr. Bernheimer's pur- 
chase brought $22. Two Safeguard pups went for $14 each, 
and a dog pup by Charlton Verdict— Refuge, brought $18. 
The balance ranged from $11 to -SI, several being sold for 
almost the price of chain and collar. Reprieve, by champion 
Result, and dam of Warren Regent, and Warren Pansy, by 
Pitcher, dam of Warren Romper and Prancer, the winning 
pup at the Terrier show, were cheap at $7 and $5 respectively 
Mr. A. C. Bradbury picked up a bitch by First Flight — 
Refuge, a sure breeder, for $4. In all the sale brought $261.50 
for twenty-nine sold, an average of -39. 
There was some discussion at the New England Field Trials 
about white on a dachshund and the amount that would pass 
without being penalized on the bench, The cause of this 
was Mr. Manice's Princetta, who had white on forefeet, and 
our contention is upheld by a little correspondence now going 
on in the Stock-Keeper (Eng.) on the same point. That 
journal remarks that German judges inform them that, 
"except a little touch of white on the chest, that marking Is 
most objectionable in black and tan, red or liver-colored 
dachshunds. Some judges will shut their eye to a speck on 
the hind toes, but after that all tolorance should end, and 
white shirt fronts, white on heads aud white feet should be 
barred." 
POINTS AND FLUSHES. 
[By a Staff Correspondent.] 
In Forest and Stream of Oct. 6 I noticed Mr. Wells's 
kindly expressed explanation concerning the matter of his 
decision of third prize in the All-Age Stake of the Manitoba 
Field Trial Club's trials. 
I had no intention to join issue with Mr. Wells in reference 
to his decisions. I beg to show him that he wrote the follow- 
ing under a misapprehension: "As to Mr. Waters's conten- 
tion that Ightfield Diana should have been in third money," 
etc. 
The paragraph itself, which Mr. Wells refers to and which 
was a part of the report of the Manitoba trials, puhlished by 
Forest and Stream, was as follows: "I fancied the two 
pointers, Ightfield Diana and Tick Boy, for third, they being 
her superior in judgment, range and work on birds, taking 
one heat with another, though she (Allene) excelled in 
style." 
This was advanced simply as my opinion, and not'set up as 
a contention against the judge's decision. 
In this connection, I desire to reiterate what I wrote in my 
report of the trials, namely, that Mr. Wells handled the 
stake with great skill, was painstaking, and his decisions 
were well received. When a judge, single-handed, can decide 
two stakes with so much credit as Mr. Wells justly won for 
himself at the Manitoba trials, it is difficult to bestow proper 
praise without appearing fulsome. 
Mr. Stoddard, in a letter published in Forest and Stream 
of Oct. 27, a letter which I trust is happily auspicious for a 
better future in respect to kennel literary contributions, 
since it is kind and tolerant, adverts to the flush and chase 
mentioned by Mr. Wells. He explains that the flush was 
across wind, and that Tick Boy marked the bird and fol- 
lowed it. I remember well this circumstance. Tick was 
roading a running bird across wind. The bevy had split up. 
The dog's work then was most difficult. The remarkable 
feature, in my judgment, was that he did it so well. The 
flush I considered as almost unavoidable and of no import- 
ance whatever as an error. 
This must not be construed as any contention in regard to 
the decision. Mr. Wells is a gentleman of experience m such 
matters, and of unquestioned integrity. When a gentleman 
has proved himself competent and reliable, a difference of 
judgment is simply a difference of judgment. No reporter 
should attempt to override the judgment of a gentleman so 
experienced or as competent as himself. Still a difference of 
udgment does not impugn a decision in the least. 
Field Trial Reports. 
Apropos of nothing at all, I realize clearly that reporters 
may make mistakes, they being mortal, too. If there were 
nothing else to show in support of this view, the fact that 
their opinions differ from each other betimes would be evi- 
dence enough. No doubt there is room for improvement. 
The mere act of taking a pencil in hand and making notes 
does not clothe the reporter with the functions of a court of 
last resort. The ex cathedra tone of some of the field trial 
reports of past years was not well taken. In a few of them 
there was no justification for the arrogation of the power of 
final review and readjusting of the judge's decision. As a 
matter of opinion, differences were not improper. This, in 
respect to reports in general. There have been, however, a 
few instances in which sharp criticism has been just and 
wholesome, and where the soundness of decisions has not 
been beyond question. But the times have changed. The 
old cast-iron, unsympathetic standard of reporting, applied 
indiscriminately to all alike, is out of place in the present 
day, for the judges are in most instances thoroughly trained. 
No judge can hope to succeed if he is inexperienced. It would 
be just as reasonable to assume that he could sail a ship, or 
manage a bank or a railroad without any special training, as 
to assume that he could judge without any experience. 
When a reporter comes across a gentleman in a saddle who 
is incompetent from inexperience, natural unfitness or indo- 
lence, there is then a just subject for criticism. Neverthe 
less, criticism may be just without being caustic or peevish. 
Where a new club is holding its first trials and the judges 
are new, a reporter may have in some instances greater 
knowledge consequent to longer and wider experience. 
This, however, is less noticeable with each recurring year, 
since the field trial patrons and judges are now quite thor- 
oughly trained, and expert in their duties. 
Barring All-Age Winners. 
Mr. Wootton, Sec-Treas, of the Manitoba Field Trial Club, 
did me the honor in Forest and Stream of Oct. 27, to reply 
to my comments on opening the club's All- Age Stake to All- 
Age winners which had not won two firsts in All- Age stakes. 
His reply impressed me as being imperfect. He considered 
but a small fragment of the matter. His argument is en- 
tirely ex parte; it is from the standpoint of the man who 
owns a first-prize winner, though I do not imply that because 
Mr. Wootton, Mr. Ellis and Mr. Avent own first-prize win 
ners that such interests are the grounds of their arguments. 
I mean simply that the argument is one-sided, from the 
standpoint of the owners of winners, not from the stand- 
point of the best interests of all concerned, namely, the club 
members who put up money and do the work, the amateur 
who pays in his fees and competes for the love of the sport, 
and the professional, who engages in the competition as a 
detail of his business. 
There are more interests to be considered than those of the 
meu who own some first-prize winner. 
As the matter is of some importance, I will take up Mr. 
Wootton's reply in detail. He being the secretary of the 
club, no doubt the views he published are the official views 
of the club. j. 
He says: "I am and have been for years in favor of allow- 
ing a dog two wins before beiDg disqualified, and I think that 
I am safe in saying that three-fourths of our members who 
attend and take part in the trials are in favor of it." 
Now, how many "members attend and take part in the 
trials? " Would not from four to six be the correct number? 
How many do not attend and take part? Should not the 
wishes of those who do not attend, be considered? 
But Mr. Wootton's main plea is in the following: "Why 
bar a dog from competition after winning one first prize? 
If he can repeat his performance under another judge and 
with the same and other dogs in competition, we are fully 
assured of his quality, and it gives us a chance to know 
more about him before breeding to him. Many times there 
is little or no choice between the first and second dog in a 
stake. If you bar one, why not the other?" 
Has not a dog proved his quality when he wins one first 
prize in an All-Age stake? If the first win proves nothing 
conclusively, what constitutes the potency of the second 
win? Why not insist on a third or fourth win, etc., to de- 
termine the dog's quality? In what manner do two wins 
fully assure one of a dog's quality? Therearemore than the 
wins to be considered in breeding to a dog. 
Mr. Wootton shows the extreme difficulty of a dog win- 
ning twice, when he says that there is little difference be- 
tween the first and second dog in a stake. The first-prize 
winner might compete all his life and never win again when 
competing against able other first-prize winners besides other 
competitors. If breeders wait till a dog has won two firsts 
in an All-Age stake before breeding to him, the list of avail- 
able stud dogs will be exceedingly limited. There is bat one 
such important All-Age stake, I think, wherein a dog can 
get two wins if he can and that Imust serve for competition 
for its winners and the winners of all other All-Age stakes, 
some half-dozen in number, to score the desired two wins in 
