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FOREST AND STREAM. 
[Deo. 8, 1894. 
New York Yacht Racing Association. 
A meeting nf the New York Ya^ht Racing Association called for 
the purpose of bearing the report of the regatta committee on the 
an Dual regatta sailed on Labor Day last was held at O'Neill's Nov. 23. 
The meeting- was largely attended, all the members of the Association 
with a few exceptions being present. In the absence of the president 
and vice-president, Mr. George E. Gartland was elected to preside, Mr. 
George Parkbill acting as secretary. Some routine business had been 
transacted, such as reports from the treasurer and secretary being 
read, a nominating committee consisting of Charles E. Simms, Jr.. of 
the Columbia Y. C . Frank M. Randall of the Pavonia Y. C, and Wm. 
Ross, Jr., of the Tower Ridge Y. 0. were appointed by the chair. 
They are to make nominations and submit them to the clubs, mem- 
bers of the Association, before Jan. 1, the annual meeting occurring 
on the first Wednesday in February. 
The report of the regatta committee was then called for and Com. 
E, Langerfeld. the chairman of the committee, said that as the treas- 
urer of the committee was absent, they were not in a position to give 
a full report. This created much unfavorable comment among the 
delegates present, and it was asked why the meeting had been called 
if the committee were not ready to report. By general request the 
report of the judges to the committee was then read. This seemed to 
be the only matter the committee had, not having prepared any writ- 
ten report whatever. The winners as announced "were the following: 
Class D.— ^olus, Com. R. R, McMurray, Staten Island A. C. 
Class E. — Lottie, J. E Drew, Hudson River Y. C. 
Class F.— Forsythe, Alexander Roe, Jersey City Y. C. 
Class G. — Bessie, Com- Garrett Van Home, Jersey City Y. C. 
Class 1.— Pnllv, A. M. Potter, Yonkers C. Y. C. 
Class 8.— Clara S., J. M. Stilgar, J., Hudson River Y. C. 
Class 3— Zetus, J. A. Kipp, Harlem Y. C. 
Class 4,— Mary, Wm. E Ellsworth. BayoDne Y. 0. 
Class 5.— Win or Lose, F. M. Randall, Pavonia Y. C. 
Class 6.— Owl, A. Youmans, Yonkers C. Y. C. 
Class 7. — Henry Dauer, O. A. Dougherty, Pavonia Y. 0. 
Class 8. — TJ and I. McGiehan and Woodruff, Greenvilie Y. C. 
Class 9.— Frank. C D. McGiehaD, Greenville Y. C. 
Classic— Dead heat, between Cinch, F. W. Fabian, Bayonne Y. C, 
and Chip. E. J. Darvel), New Jerrey A. C. 
When they came to class 10 the chairman of the committee said that 
he did not know exactly what to say. The judges reported Chip, be- 
longing to E. J. Darvell, and Cinch, the property of F. W. Fabian, to 
have made the same corrected time. The other members of the com- 
mittee had left it for him to decide and he had decided it a dead heat. 
This decision was announced notwithstanding that both the owners 
had agreed to a remeasurement. and that such remeasurement was 
made by the treasurer of the Greenville Y. C. Such measurement 
showed a difference in the length of the respective boats, and proved 
one to have won the race. It seems to us that a committee composed 
of seven yachtsmen could certainly arrive at some conclusion, and it 
certainly does not speak well for the committee. Some years ago we 
had occasion to call the attention of the Association to the general 
mixing up caused where there are judges and an unwieldy regatta 
committee, and we thought the Association had profited by 6ur advice, 
as for three years it has had an efficient regatta committee of three. 
It seems, however, that last year they went back in the same rut. In 
an association of this size it should not be a difficult matter to get an 
efficient committee together who would manage the regatta as it 
ought to be managed. Too many men as judges and on the committee 
are certain to do poor work. It is expected that at a future meeting 
of the Association some report mav be submitted by the regatta com- 
mittee. It was also said that the regatta committee might de- 
termine to refer the decision in class 10 for final action. The success 
of the Association to a great extent depends on the proper manage- 
ment of the annual regatta, and the results this year are not what 
they should be, 
The Pilot's Story. 
The Yachtsman of Nov. 8 contains a long and interesting interview 
with "Tommy Dutch," or Capt. Thomas Diaper, late pilot of Navahoe 
and Vigilant. The experiences of over forty years' yacht racing make 
a story worth reading, but we can only quote that portion specially 
concerning the two American craft, as follows: 
"Yes. I was appointed pilot of the Navahoe on the recommendation 
of Mr. Kersey, a friend of Lord Dunraven's, and I joined her immedi- 
ately on her arrival at Cowes, and brought her up the Itchen. I had 
a very good time in her, and liked her owner, Mr. Royal Phelps Car- 
roll, very much indeed." 
"Do you think everything was done that could be done for Navahoe 
to win?" "Of course, she had a very bad suit of sails— her canvas 
might as well have been upon a barge. I believe her to be as fast a 
vessel as the Vigilant if she was properly canvased." 
"You don't mean by that to infer that Vigilant is not a fast boat?" 
"Oh, good gracious, no ! I consider the Vigilant to be the fastest yacht 
that has ever been afloat, and I believe that, if I had the handling of 
that vessel, with an English crew, I could go and beat the Britannia or 
anything else In British waters." 
"You were pilot of her as well as of Navahoe?" "Yes, I joined her 
on her arrival in the Clyde, and piloted her in every race in which she 
took part." 
"Of course, then, you remember the celebrated race round the Isle 
of Wight, when you and Britannia are said to have bumped on the 
rocks between Shauklin and St, Catherine's?" "Yes. and we did 
bump, and no mistake. We had gone so close in to Shanklin Pier, 
that any of us could easily have jumped ashore. We were on a full 
reach, and there was no need to go in so close, but then Britannia 
and we were luffing each other I said -to Hank Haff, 'Well, are we 
going to luff her on the shore?' A friend of Mr. (Mould's forward — 
I forget his name*— heard this, and called otit to Mr. Gould, 'Plenty 
more ships where this one was built.' He answered, 'Yes;' and then 
the friend said. 'What is it to be? Shall we take her through the Isle 
of Wight?' Mr. Gould rejoined, 'Let her rip,' Britannia then was on 
our port bow, our bowsprit end being on her weather quarter. I said 
to Mr. Gould, 'You will take all responsibility off me, sir?' And he re- 
plied, ' A 11 right. Tommy. 
"I suppose you knew it was far from being 'all right?' " " Yes, and 
I suppose he must have known it, too; but he was much excited, and 
was determined to pass the Britannia in some way or another. I went 
to the skipper and said, 'You have another man at the wheel with you, 
for I can tell you when you are going to strike, and you might have a 
chance of rushing off her lee quarter, but she (pointing to Britannia) 
will strike first.' The Prince of Wales' boat was just a little ahead of 
us, and those on board ought to have known the danger she was in, 
but, of course, all on board both vessels were nearly mad with excite- 
ment that day. I could see the rocks in the water just ahead of Bri- 
tannia, and I said to Captain Hank Haff, 'Now, look out, she's going, 
to strike!' And she struck first, as I had said, and she jumped over 
the rock as if she had been steeplechasing, and then the Vigilant did 
just the same. Both vessels jumped over into deep water, and then 
one of our men rushed below to see if she was making any water, and 
he called back and reported all safe. The two yachts then luffed, and 
luffed, and luffed, til) they got nearly on the beach. Britannia struck 
a single rock and swung her head off, her bowsprit going underwater, 
and then she slipped off again. Satanita passed her. but we got the 
lead. When we got nearly to the Needles, Mr. Gould's friend, to whom 
I have already referred, actually wanted the vessel to be sailed between 
the Needles and the cliff. He asked me if there was a passage there, 
saying 'it was wide enough,' and I replied, 'Yes, I've been through 
there.' He answered, 'Then we can go through?' I said, 'It was in a 
rowing boat.' He ask*:d, 'How much water is there, Tommy ?' I told 
him five feet, and then he scratched his head and seemed to think it 
was not enough. The attempt of course was not made, but it was a 
"warm 1 time, I can assure you. We won the match, and run Britannia 
8% minutes from Alum Bay to Cowes Roads, and won the Yachtsman 
cup." 
"Of course you remember the second time Vigilant 'bumped'?" 
"Yes, on the Saturday. It was a light, fair wind when we came out 
of Cowes Roads, and you would not dream that any man would have 
the centerboard down on such a time. When we got down a little 
distance I took the wheel, and steered as far as Hurst Castle. Pres- 
ently Captain Haff took her from me, and soon afterward we. were 
joined by Mr. Gould and General Knollys, the Prince of Wales's secre- 
tary. There was some difference of opinion as to whether the match 
should start to leeward or windward. I said to Mr. Gould, 'If you will 
listen to me, sir, this is just our point, going to windward.' And, after 
some conversation, it was agreed we should go, and he told the Prince's 
secretary we would start. I never knew all this time that the center- 
board was down— I will swear to that," 
"Was it down when you left Cowes?" "It appears they put it down 
as soon as we left Cowes, while they were messing about with the 
sails. As far as I know, the captain told the centerboard man to put 
it down, but he had never told me of it. When it was decided we should 
go out to race, we let draw, and set a course for the Needles to start, 
Britannia being ahead. Captain Haff asked me, "We're going all 
right?' And I replied, 'As long as Britannia, is to leeward you're all 
right, as she draws more water than you do.' We were on the weather 
quarter of Britannia , but all at once Vigilant bumped. I exclaimed to 
i-Vin nonfoln *f3nn<1 ClrtA \ what ia fhnx? Ts thfi nenf.ArhnH.rrl rinwnV 
and swept the keel. It was finally decided the board was gone, and we 
signaled to the Prince of Wales accordingly. We bore up for South- 
ampton, but when we got into the river we found that the center- 
board was jambed in the keel. When this was put to rights we raced 
at Dartmouth and beat the Satanita, but we did not meet Britannia 
again, as she lost two men at Portland, and came back to Cowes, 
and we lost our centerboard when sailing up from Dartmouth to 
meet her in the contest for the Cape May cup, and had to abandon the 
race " 
"Of course you have seen what some of the American papers 
have said about the English pilot of the Vigilant?" "Yes, I have; 
rather " 
"And of course you see that it is insinuated the English pilot made 
. the vessel oome to grief?" "Yes." 
"Well, what have you to say to that?" "You can tell the Yanks it's 
a lie." (Tommy u?ed an adjective which I need not repeat.) "If they 
had listened to their English pilot they would have done much better 
than they did do with the Vigilant. I did my best all the time I 
was there; Mr. Gould knows that and admits it. For all or any of 
the mishaps I was in no way responsible. I knew some of them were 
going to happen, ano 1 they might have been easily prevented. The 
evening before the private match with the Prince of Wales Mr. Gould 
said to me. 'Tommy, if you win that prize to- morrow the money shall 
ba yours.' " 
"And you did win"?" "Yes." 
"Did you have the money?" "As soon as we got into Cowes he came 
and shook hand with me, and said, 'I congratulate you, Tommy; the 
money is yours 1" 
"Have you got it?" "Well, I have not got it, but I hope to have it 
some day." 
"Laying Up" at San Francisco. 
Last Sunday pretty much wound up the yachting season with the 
Corinthian boys at Belvedere, and many of the yachts were moved 
inside the bridge into Rashan's Lagoon. 
The operation of raising the draw of the bridge to let them through 
was a Corinthian job as well, as that "draw" is a terror to flaccid 
muscles. 
Under the superintendence of Frank Stone, assisted by about fifteen 
or twenty others, all bossing the job, heavy blocks and tackles were 
rigged to the uprights, and every available man and boy that came 
along was utilized and made to man the "fall" which was strung up 
along the bridge, and with a "heave, ho," and a surge the heavy draw 
was raised a few inches and then fell back. It was evident more 
muscle was required, and a conscription and draft was made on the 
yachts that gathered in a cluster waiting to get through. Their crews 
scrambled on to the bridge and laid hold of the "fall," and as some of 
the boys bad good stern weight, it told; and after many "spells" and 
much shouting, the draw was up on end, and then commenced the 
scramble to get through, 
Bob Gibson in the Magic and Will Brooks in the Witch were among 
the first, then came the big house boat Atlantis and she stuck fast in 
the draw. A miscalculation had evidently been made in her dimen- 
sions or in the width of the "draw." She was just about an inch too 
wide or the draw that much too narrow — whichever way it might be t 
For a full hour she blocked the way and all the tugging of several gas- 
oline launches could not budge her ; hut finally some wise head discov- 
ered that, hy cutting away a "batten" on the piles an inch or two 
could be gained, and it was done, when she started and moved slowly- 
through, amid the cheers of the large crowd that had collected by this 
time. The big house boat being out of the way, the smaller ones in 
tow of launches hurried through and the smaller yachts in tow of 
their boats had a hard pull, as "by this time the tide had turned ebb, 
and made hard work. However, all got through and the draw lowered 
to let the accumulated crowd cross the Rubicon. 
It is a great pity that the bridge has not a turntable simplifying the 
passage of boats through. If such were the case, most of the yachts 
would remain in commission all winter, but as it is, the danger of 
lying outside renders it impossible, without great risk to the safety of 
the boats, as in a southeaster it kicks up a nasty sea; and the bottom 
being soft and the holding ground poor, the probability of being plas- 
tered up on the beach and being filled with mud and water, is not a 
pleasant prospect. 
The Lagoon presents quite an animated picture with the numerous 
yachts and house-boats at anchor, 
What a jolly idea it would be for the Belvedere Land Company to 
get Von Schmidt at work in the lagoon— dredge the shores and carry 
his pipes over the marsh, convert it into solid land, then lay out villa 
lots along the shore fronting on the deepened water. What lots of 
boat houses would be built and boats rowed by ladies— in fact, it 
would be a miniature Venice. It will be a great mistake to fill up the 
lagoon. It would pay better if deepened, and its shores lined, as 
would be the case, with villas and cottages. A water frontage is ever 
popular, and in this case for rowing and sailing it would be greatly so 
and profitable. 
The lagoon would be worth more twice or even ten times over as 
water than as laud. Land is everywhere, water available for any 
such purpose is not to be fouud. Think of it, ye grasping owners of 
the land and water over there. There is money in it, and so, I say, 
that lagoon can be made the most attractive and profitable scheme 
yet struck. It would beat the Lurline Baths or any other water 
scheme to be devised.— Old Yachtsman, in Field Sports, Nov. S. 
down or up. I might just as well ba out of the 6hip, and as soon as I 
get back to Cowes I'm going out of her.' The captain said, 'The cen- 
terboard is gone.' and sent his son below, and he came back and said 
he believed that was so. We made all plear and then got a rope over 
*Mr. Iselin 
London Sailing Club Model Competition. 
We have received from Mr. George Terrell, honorary secretary of 
the London Sailing Club, the following particulars of the model com- 
petition and exhibition to be held at the club house, Lower Mall, Ham- 
mersmith, from Feb. 19 to March 2, 1895. The competition is open to 
American yachtsmen: 
The success of the popular 1 and 0.5 rating classes seems assured 
for next season, and the time may be said to have arrived for the club 
to repeat the experiment of former years, and to announce another 
exhibition of models. As, however, there is a strong probability that 
the rating rule will be altered, it is felt it would be better to defer 
such exhibition of class models for another season, as hardly any 
useful purpose will be served until the new rule has been passed. 
The London Sailing Club has therefore decided to hold an exhibition 
and competition for half models and drawings of singlehanded 
cruisers. 
By the term singlehanded cruiser is meant a craft not exceeding 
30ft. over all, capable of being navigated singlehanded in open waters, 
such as the lower reaches of the Thames, and providing cabin accom- 
modation for her crew. 
Mr. Dixon Kemp has kindly consented to act as judge, and will 
award the prizes. 
Following the precedent adopted in the former exhibitions held 
under the auspices of the club, for the purpose of equalizing the 
chances of amateur designers in competing with professionals, the 
finish of the models will not be calculated as an element of merit in 
awarding the prizes. For the protection of professional designers all 
models and designs entered for the exhibition will remain the property 
of the persons exhibiting them, and no one will be allowed under any 
circumstances to take any measurements, except the judge for the 
purpose of judging. 
A member of the committee of the club will be present throughout 
the time the exhibition is open, to insure the strict observance of this 
restriction against taking measurements. 
No exhibitor may in any way whatever disclose his identity either 
on his models, drawings, or particulars, until after the judging has 
taken place and the prizes been awarded, and no exhibitor will under 
any circumstances be awarded a prize in respect of any models or 
drawings on which his name or identity, except in the sealed envelope, 
is in any way disclosed. 
Entry for the competition must be made by application in writing of 
the honorary secretary of the London Sailing Club, and on payment 
of an entrance fee of 5s. for each model proposed to be exhibited, a 
card for each proposed exhibit will be furnished containing the ex- 
hibitor's name and address. No application for entry will be received 
after Tuesday, Feb. 5, 1895. 
The models packed in a box containing the drawings and measure- 
ments hereafter referred to, and also the entrance card inclosed in a 
sealed envelope marked "Entrance Card" nujgtj j>e delivered at the 
club house, Lower Mall, Hammersmith, on or t,w.*«re Friday, Feb. 15, 
The honorary secretary will, on receipt of the boxes containing the 
models, mark in the order in which they are received a number on 
each model, drawing, and sealed envelope, for the purpose of identifi- 
cation. The sealed envelopes will not be opened until after the prizes 
have been awarded, 
REQUIREMENTS. 
1. A half model of hull of singlehanded cruiser not exceeding 30ft. 
over all, scale lin.=lft. 
2. Sail plan showing center of effort, scale J4ra. =lf t. 
3. Cabin plan, scale lin.=lft. 
4. Section at fore bulkhead of cabin. Scale do. 
5. Section at aft bulkhead of cabin. Scale do. 
The following drawings and particulars may also be deposited with 
the model: 
6. Sheer plan, scale lin.=lft. 
7. Body plan. Scale do. 
8. Half-breadth plan. Scale do. 
9. Centers of buoyancy and lateral resistance to be marked on sheer 
plan. 
" 10. Displacement, 
11. Weight of proposed ballast Inside and on keel. 
12. Details of cabin fittings and rigging. 
13. Material of centerboard (if any) and manner of working it. 
All drawings intended for public exhibition must be on one sheet of 
paper, and it is requested that such sheet of paper be of a width that 
it can conveniently be hung underneath the model. 
Owing to want of space to exhibit them, no rigged models can be 
accepted. 
The drawings and particulars, Nos. 6 to 13 inclusive, are required by 
the judge to enable him to form a correct estimate of the models. 
Supplying them is, however, optional on the part of the competitors, 
but they must understand that the merits of a design may fail to be 
observed if a model, cabin, and sail plan, only are placed before the 
judge. A competitor may, however, inclose such drawings and par- 
ticulars in a sealed envelope, and mark the same for the use of the 
judge only, in which event the drawings and particulars will be pro- 
duced to the judge at the time of his making the award, and after- 
ward sealed and returned by post to the competitor. 
The order of merit will be ascertained by the award of points, and 
the following table will show the heads under which points will be 
awarded, and the maximum number respectively obtainable there- 
under: 
(a) Hull 50 points. 
(6) Sail plan, rigging and fittings., 25 points. 
(c) Cabin and accommodation 36 points. 
The club will give a first prize of seven guineas to the boat scoring 
the highest number of points under the three heads, according to the 
judge's award. 
A second prize of four guineas. 
A third prize of one guinea. 
And also such certificates of merit as the judge may award. 
The committee of the club will take every possible care of the models 
and drawings of the exhibitors, but they undertake no legal liability 
whatever for any loss or damage. 
The decision of the committee, except in the award of prizes, in all 
matters of dispute arising out of the competition and exhibition will 
be binding and final on ail exhibitors. 
The exhibition will be opened on Tuesday, Feb. 19, 1895, aDd remain 
open until and including Saturday. March 2, 1895, between the hours 
of 2 and 9:30 P. M., Sundays excepted. 
Admission free. 
Any further information desired will be furnished on application to 
the Honorary Secretary, London Sailing Club, Lower Mall, Hammer- 
smith. 
The incoming regatta committee of the American Canoe Associa. 
tion, taking office last month, is confronted with a moBt difficult and 
unsatisfactory task. By a vote of the executive eommittee,the regatta 
committee is instructed to devise and put in practice a system of 
handicapping which shall revive the waning interest in canoe racing- 
The difficulty of the task becomes apparent when we consider that no 
practicable system of handicapping has ever been found in canoeing; 
and that even in yachting, where handicaps have always been the 
custom, many serious disadvantages exist for which no remedy can 
be found. 
The rather lengthy discussion which preceded the adoption of the 
resolution developed an unanimous opinion that something was 
necessary to revive the racing, and an opinion almost as ananimous 
that the only practicable remedy was a system of handicaps. When 
it came to the rather important question of detail, however, out of 
the many indefinite schemes suggested, not one was free from serious 
objections, and it may be said that in this respect the discussion was 
void of practicable results. 
The only point definitely agreed on is one which is not likely to be 
of much aid to the committee— that the handicap should be arranged 
on the basis of time in starting, and not by calculations made after the 
finish in order to determine the winner. 
The regatta committee has already commenced work on the pro 
gramme and other arrangements for the races cf the '95 meet, but at 
the outset it is at a loss as to any practicable means of carrying out 
the instructions of the executive committee. In order to obtain sug- 
gestions that may aid, we shall be glad to give space to letters from 
oanoeists, and invite such a discussion of the question as may bring out 
detailed plans rather than crude and indefinite suggestions. 
■ It is the racing men, old and new, who are to be benefitted by ihe 
work of the committee, and it is from them that any discussion must 
come. 
In the present condition of canoe racing, both in the clubs and at 
the meets, almost any change must be for the better, and an arbitral y 
handicap may well be tried for a season. At. the same time we have 
no idea that however successfuly managed, it will hring back a fleet 
such as was seen even three years since; or that it will escape a great 
deal of unfavorable criticism. The establishing of handicaps and the 
placing of each man involves no small amount of responsibility on the 
members of the committee, and is likely to call down on them the 
criticisms of individuals who consider themselves unfairly treated, 
and of canoeists in general should the scheme fail of securing large 
fields of starters. __ 
One panacea for all the ills of i*acing has been advocated for some 
years, the limitation of sail to a comparatively low figure. Should 
this be done, however, it is likely to lead to worse evils. For the first 
or second year, while the present craft raced with moderate rigs, the 
anticipated result might be realized; but it would not be long before 
some keen canoeist would build for the new conditions, putting under 
his rig of 100 or 125ft- a hull cut away in all directions. Whatever 
may be urged against a boat of good body, such as Wasp, Bee or 
Toltec, carrying 180ft. of sail; she would be a better craft than one o 
reduced freeboard and midship section, barely enough displacement 
to float her crew and rig, and standing up no better under 125ft. than 
the other under 180ft. 
CANOE NEWS NOTES. 
We learn from the Yachting World that Mr. William Willard Howard 
has sent his canoe Yankee back to this country to have her forefoot 
cut off, and also that he may go into the half -rating class on the Solent 
next year in a boat of the Spruce type. 
A correspondent writes to learn of a route for a canoe cruise from 
Dunkirk, N. Y., through lakes Ontario, Huron and Superior, and 
thence bv the Ogoke and Albany rivers to James Bay, Ontario. Pos- 
sibly some of our readers on the Lakes or in Ontario may be able to 
furnish information. 
A. C. A. Membership. 
Atlantic Division: Mrs. H. Lansing Quick, Yonkers, N. Y. 
Schlicht Rifle Club. 
Wbst New York, N. J., Nov. 27.— The Schlicht Rifle Club held its 
weekly gallery shoor for clans medals as iU headquarters last evening. 
Scores: Geo. Schlicht 241, Jacob Diehl 236, Geo. Dorr 232, Fred Kro- 
katsch231, Geo. J. Goehrig 214, Gus. Tribout 214, Jacob Schlicht 225, 
Geo. Reichert 225, Fred Lambrix 227, Conrad Schlicht 203, W. Scuiicht 
227, Geo. Lautenberg 222, Capt. S. Dedrick 228, Aug. Meyer 229, w m . 
Last 202, Charley Meyer 204. Medal winners, Geo. Schlicht, champion 
medal; Jacob Diehl, first class medal; Fred Lambrix, second class 
medal; Capt. J. Dedrick, third class medal, F. Lambrix, SeQ. 
