Deo. 15, 1894.] 
FOREST AND STREAM. 
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DOG CHAT. 
There are many terrier owners and breeders whom we 
could name who will read "Terrier's" letter, in another 
column, with interest. There are hundreds of terriers in 
some kennels that are simply eating their heads off and 
from which their owners derive little pleasure except it be 
to see them have an occasional "turn-up" with a "bagged" 
woodchuck or tack up a card or two won at shows. For 
lack of opportunity to indulge in their natural propensities 
their dogs come under the category of pets, and cribbed and 
eonnnedas they necessarily are, are losing the courage and 
vim that we associate with such terriers — the fox, Irish, 
Scottish, Dandie Dimont and Bedlington terriers, for 
instance. The reason for thin condition lies in a great meas- 
ure with the owners themselves. A setter or a pointer 
owner — if a sportsman — does not expect to find quail or 
grouse in towns and villages but seeks such country aa will 
give him the sport he craves. This the terrier men should do. 
Mr.'C. T. Brownell has sold the well known Gordon setter 
Trim B. (Dixie— Beaulah) to Mr. A. Ziegler, Jr., Buffalo, 
N. Y. 
The Westminster Kennel Club is desirous of having their 
premium lists ready for distribution by Jan. 1, and in order 
to publish therein a complete list of special prizes the club 
would be glad to hear from the secretaries of the different 
clubs and others who may wish to offer prizes, as early as 
possible. The address of the superintendent, Mr. James 
Mortimer, will be 59 Liberty street, Room 2, New York, and 
not at 44 Broadway as heretofore. 
Mr. A. C. Bradbury intends visiting the Liverpool show, 
leaving here early in January. He is taking over a fine lot of 
brown Leghorns for exhibition in England, and will return 
in February in time for the New York show, bringing with 
him the Herschel greyhounds. He will be pleased to execute 
any commission for American fanciers. 
When the month of December comes round and two or 
three dogmen congregate together the question is asked: 
"Have you heard any thing of the judges?" and it is un- 
necessary to ask what is meant. Not that the question of 
judges has much influence at a W. K. C. show as far as 
entries go, still for some reason there is a halo that surrounds 
the position that seems to clothe the wearer with a higher 
opinion of himself. Nothing is known as yet who will be 
appointed, but as the premium lists are expected to be out 
by New Year's, we should not have long to wait. The selec- 
tion of such a list is a difficult problem, owing to the im- 
portance of the shows and the awards to be made. While 
on this subject we might remark that it has been suggested 
that the W. K. C. have the judging extend through the four 
days of the show. For many reasons this idea is a good one. 
The hoi'seshow is judged in that way, and thereby the public 
interest is kept up during the whole week. At the New 
York show the judging generally extends well into the 
second day, and there is more or less of a rush to get through 
the work even in that time. If the judging extended through 
the four days it would not be necessary to have more than 
two large judging rings. This would leave more space for 
benching, an important consideration when the entries have 
increased to such an extent that it is now a difficult matter 
to bench all on one floor. For instance at the last show, the 
pet dogs and some of the terriers, around whose benches there 
should be ample space, had to be placed above the main 
floor among the chairs, a situation far too cramped for such 
interesting and important divisions. On the first day certain 
breeds, say pointers, setters and St. Bernards, could be 
judged; on the second, mastiffs, greyhounds, deerhounds, 
great Danes and spaniels; next day all terriers and so on. If 
the schedule of judging was announced in the premium lists, 
visiting dogmen would then be able to make their arrange- 
ments accordingly, and they would thus be sure of meeting 
those of their friends interested in their particular fancy. 
The daily newspapers, on whom so much depends to create 
an interest among the public, would then have material 
to work up a good story each day and not be crowded with 
lengthy prize lists the first two days, in which the general 
public take little interest, and have little to write about the 
remaining days of the show. There is really no reason why 
the judging should be rushed through in one day, except 
that it would be impossible to get out a marked catalogue 
before the last day, but this is not of sufficient importance 
to offset the other advantages. The announcement in the 
dailies of the breeds to be judged would draw the public, as 
with slower judging and fewer rings they would be better 
able to follow the awards. As at present carried oat there is 
a good deal of confusion and most of the work is meaning- 
less to the general public. The award boards could be 
properly kept, and if each handler of a dog when entering 
the judging ring was supplied with a card on which was con- 
spicuously printed a number corresponding to the number of 
his dog, the judging could be followed with interest and 
benefit. The suggestion has been made and we should like 
to hear how other exhibitors feel about it. 
The Meadowmere Kennels, not content with scooping in 
most of the prizes lately with their black poodles, and start- 
ing several other kennels with winning teams, are still seek- 
ing to improve their new kennel team. They have just 
received two dogs from France which their Paris agent 
informs them are the best dogs of this type seen there this 
year. These, with the eight imported for Mr. Trevor by 
Messrs. Mortimer and Vail three months since, will enable 
this kennel to put down a better team of black poodles at 
New York show than has yet been seen. Mr. Trevor says 
that owing to the present unsatisfactory state of the trans- 
portation arrangements, he is doubtful whether he will risk 
showing any prize winners at any but the New York, Chicago, 
Boston and Philadelphia shows, where his man accompanies 
them. On the last trip from Toronto his dogs came back in 
an almost exhausted condition, and, as he justly remarks, the 
amount of glory to be obtained from a win is not worth the 
risk of losing one of his dogs. 
Mr. Shirley Stewart reports the loss of his great Dane dog 
Don Csesar, Jr. (23,638). Caesar was lost from his home in 
Toronto four weeks ago last Saturday. He has never been 
known to stray or even stay away from home over night, and 
it is supposed he has been stolen. Don Csesar was a well- 
known prize winner at Canadian shows, having won two 
firsts at Toronto Fair shows and other prizes. He is a blue 
dog, with briudle markings on face and legs, and his ears are 
well cut. Mr. Stewart is living in St. Catharine's, Out., at 
present, and still has two good great Danes in his kennels, 
Chamois and Brurda; the latter has won several prizes. It 
is feared that Don Csesar has been sent over the line. If any 
of our readers should come across him and then communi- 
cate with Mr. Stewart, they will be doing a friendly action. 
The Sportsmen's Exposition that will take place in Mad- 
ison Square Garden, New York, May 13 to 18, 1895, promises 
to be a very interesting affair. In our issue of Nov. 10 was 
published, in another department, a description of the differ- 
ent classes which define the character ol the undertaking. 
As kennel owners generally have not seen that part which 
relates to the kennel display, we draw more particular atten- 
tion to it here: 
Class I.— Kennel Supplies will form an interesting group 
and include all kinds of dog food mentioned, improved ken- 
nels for benching and feeding, transportation crates, dishes 
and watering troughs, dog medicines and surgical instru- 
ments, books on the care and training of various kinds of 
dogs, literature defining the status of the dog as personal 
property, and the advancement in dog history." 
Mr. Frederic S. Webster, the secretary, who is well known 
to dogmen as the secretary of the Pointer Club, informs us 
that the scope of this kennel division has been enlarged and 
will embrace a display of mounted specimens of every breed 
of dog recognized by the Kennel Club, and, where possible, 
it is intended to show the purposes for which they are used 
in sport. For instance, pointers and setters will be mounted 
in the act of pointing quail, etc.; Chesapeake Bay dogs re- 
trieving ducks, and so on. Thus the exhibition is intended 
to be both interesting and educative to the general public. 
To carry out the idea we suppose the St. Bernard will be 
represented in the traditional manner, but what to do with 
the Boston terrier has not yet been decided. The exhibit, 
however, is expected to be very interesting, and those who 
have mounted specimens of dogs should communicate- with 
the secretary with a view to loaning the same. 
The sudden death is announced of the celebrated animal 
artist, Mr. C. Burton Barber. His charming pictures of 
dog life have made his name familiar to all lovers of the dog. 
Stock-Keeper (Eng.) has a cable message from America 
addressed to Caracas, care of Rasselas, London, but it is 
couched in a code that they have no clue to, and wish the 
sender to explain matters. 
The Hempstead Farm has purchased the well-known 
collie Had field Don from Mr. W. W. Thompson. It came 
over in Spratts care. 
Attention is drawn, in our business columns, to the re- 
duction in the fees of the Mere Kennels' stud fox-terriers. 
Intending breeders should not forget that Jollice is by De- 
spoiler, who has lately made such a name for himself as a 
sire in England. Dame Fortune, the sensational pup of the 
year, that beat Vice-Regal, is by Despoiler. The Mere Ken- 
nels, through their advertisement in FOREST AND STREAM, 
sold one of Jollice's get to a fancier at the highest price ever 
paid for a puppy from their kennels. 
The shooting of Mr. Bateman's beagles still exercises the 
minds of the beagle men, and more letters have been received 
on the subject. It is not likely that the National Beagle 
Club will take the matter up further than to officially bring 
the case to the attention of the S. P. C. A. A committee to 
act in the matter will be appointed at the next meeting of 
the club, Jan. 4. A similar case is reported in the English 
Stock-Keeper this week. A game keeper and his master 
were sued in court for shooting a valuable collie bitch, Clay- 
ton Match. The case was left to the jury to decide, and a 
verdict for $200 in the plaintiff's favor was rendered. The 
American Kennel Club is supposed to look after the interests 
of dogdom in this country, and instead of piling up a useless 
surplus, it might well take in hand such cases as Mr. Bate- 
man's, and make an effort to prove to the average layman 
that dogs on which taxes are paid are just as much property 
as the same man's cows or horses, on which no direct taxes 
are levied. 
There is a growing feeling among dog breeders that the 
American Kennel Club should inaugurate the coming year 
by devoting some portion of its income to special prizes at 
the coming shows. The dog men feel that they should be 
afforded an opportunity to get their money back instead of 
contemplating a balance in a bank that does no one any 
good, except the bankers. If the American Kennel Club 
was a proprietary club it would be different, but it is sup- 
ported by dog men and for dog men, and it is through dogs 
it has its being, therefore, it is considered that the club 
should make some effort to improve dogs as well as the 
morals of dog men. 
Mr. E. M. Oldham has resigned the treasurership of the 
American Spaniel Club and in doing so leaves the treasury 
in a healthier condition than when he found it. There is 
now some $200 to the good. 
The American Kennel Club has long felt that the offices 
at 44 Broadway, were not as well arranged as could be 
wished and as the Executive Committee at its meeting last 
week gave full power to the secretary to choose others.it is 
very probable that in May when their lease expires the club 
will move to the corner of Liberty and Nassau streets where 
better offices at similar rental can be secured. 
The admission by Mr. Hook, of the Boston Terrier Club's 
Pedigree Committee, that the Boston terrier men were get- 
ting their terriers with too many terrier characteristics and 
that they had been advised to breed back to the bulldog to get 
certain properties, shows the inherent weakness of their 
claims for the breed. Forest and Stream questioned the 
olicy of the A. K. C. in admitting the breed and it will yet 
e found that those who were not in favor of it are right. 
Certain members of the club led us to believe that their aim 
was to breed out the bull characteristics and make the dog a 
terrier. The type is mixed euough now, in all conscience, 
and if the breeders have already to resort to first crosses to 
save certain properties where is their claim of fixed type? 
The regular monthly meeting of the recently organized 
Montreal Kennel Association was held Dec. 4, Dr. Mills in 
the chair. About forty members were present, and these 
had the pleasure of electing twenty-two new members. The 
president gave a dissertation on dogs generally, classifying 
them by type, etc. Dr. W. H. Drummond read an interest- 
ing paper on Irish terriers, but we can scarcely agree with 
him that "as a sheep dog he (the Irish terrier) is invaluable 
and has as much ability as the Scotch collie." As for his 
companionability, gameness and varmin killing qualities, 
these are conceded without question. The next lectures will 
be on fox-terriers, by James Lindsay, and St. Bernards, by 
J. A. Pitt. 
Interesting experiments, according to Stock-Keeper, have 
been made by the French chemist, Pictet, on the resisting 
power against cold possessed by animals. A dog was placed 
in a copper receiver at a temperature of 60 to 90° C. In ten 
minutes the bodily temperature showed a rise of 0.5°, and 
after an hour and a half had only lost 1". A little later 
nature gave up the struggle, the temperature rose rapidly, 
and the animal died suddenly. 
The noted bull bitch Bicester Beauty and others of Mr. 
Thomas's bulldogs are offered for sale in English papers. 
At the late Fox-Terrier Club show held at Derby, Mr. F. 
Redmond, who it will be remembered judged fox-terriers for 
the American Club show at Newport, R. I., had a good 
innings. With Dame Fortune he made one of the biggest 
winnings ever scored at one show. Besides winning the 
smooth championship and beating Vice, Regal. Venio, etc., 
she won in cash £54 or §270. With all his dogs Mr. Redmond 
won $7501 The owner of Meiford Molly was also a big win- 
ner, taking in about $25u. At this show there were 380 
entries of smooths and 175 wires, the total entry eclipsing all 
previous records. In wires Mr. C. Bartle won about $200 
with his Wellingborough Judy, and $100 more with his whole 
team. Mr. Pirn, who judged wires, seems to have upset his 
awards in a most aggravating manner. Blooming Beak was 
fourth in the limit class and Wellingboro Scorcher reserve. 
In the next class Scorcher takes first and Beak second, and 
another dog Meersbrook Lordship gets fourth. In the Derby, 
Lordship meets Beak and the judge puts Lordship second 
and the Beak third. It will be interesting to read Mr. Pirn's 
report. 
The s.s. Greece brought over recently the Llewellyn setter 
bitch Phoebe Wind'em, purchased by Mr. H. L. Smith, of 
Strathroy, Ont., from Mr. Llewellin. This bitch won second 
in the Puppy Stakes at the Shrewsbury trials last spring 
and first at the trials on grouse at Bala, Wales, in August 
last. Mr. Smith, we understand, was the first to import a 
Llewellin setter and this was just twenty years ago. 
The Woodlawn Park Kennels have bought the good bull- 
dog Nugget, that won first in the under 451bs. class and the 
Sawyer cup at New York last February, from Mr. C. A. 
Houck, of Albany, N. Y. Last Saturday they sold the good 
yo»ng bulldog Rustic King II., one of the memorable litter, 
to Mr. E. Ficken, an architect of New York city. We regret 
to say their bull bitch Grosvenor Lass, recently imported, 
gave birth prematurely to seven fine pups by King Orry, but 
the mother and all the old bulldogs are doing well. 
We desire to call the attention of pointer breeders to the 
closing date, Dec. 15, for entries to the grand annual sweep- 
stakes of the Pointer Club for 1895. For pointers born 
between the dates Sept. 18, 1893, to Sept. 15, 1894. Fee $3. 
Mrs. Smythe, whose sad accident has brought her many 
expressions of sympathy from her friends in the fancy, de- 
sires us to thank them in her name for their kind thoughts, 
as at present, although on a fair way to recovery, she is 
unable to do so herself. It seems that the accident might 
have been avoided had the flagman been at his post or had 
not endeavored to stop the horses. The engine did not 
whistle or the flagman appear and no warning whatever 
was given of the train's approach, and the carriage had 
almost crossed the tracks when the flagman ran out of his 
box and caught the off horse by the head and backed them 
on the track. The flagman, as stated before, was killed, and 
also Zadie, Mrs. Smyth's pet mare, but the off horse was 
unhurt. Mrs. Smyth, with part of the carriage and the 
robes, was carried a distance of 50yds. on the cow-catcher, 
when she rolled off to the track. Her companions, Mr. and 
Mrs. Meacham, were killed, as stated in our first account. 
Mrs. Smyth happily remembers nothing of the day's occur- 
rences. Her left arm is broken in two places above the elbow 
and there are three breaks in the pelvis. She has plenty of 
courage but needs it all. Mr. and Mrs. Meacham were saved 
suffering of any kind, the former being instantly killed and 
the latter dying an hour after the shock. 
Mr. C. A. Loud, late of Los Angeles, Cal., passed through 
New York last week on his way to Bessimer, N. C, where 
he intends establishing a breeding and training kennel. Mr. 
Loud is well known in field trial circles and is a veteran in 
the business of handling and training field dogs. He had 
with him half a dozen very nice English setters that he had 
bought from Mr. Shallenberger of Alma, Neb. We wish 
him every success in his new home. 
Roderigo is dead. Field trial men and setter breeders the 
country over will receive this announcement with regret and 
sympathy for Messrs. Avent & Thayer. Roderigo died the 
night after Mr. Avent returned from the field trials. His 
cause of death is not known.ibut as this grand old dog was 
whelped April 12, 1883, it wiil be seen he was getting on in 
years and his death might have been expected. Mr. Avent 
says he was a faithful companion and loved by all his family 
as one of themselves. Roderigo was buried in Mr. A vent's 
yard and a monument is to be erected over his grave. Rod- 
erigo won the All-Age Stake at the National Field Trials at 
Grand Junction, Tenn., 1885;',but it is as a sire that his name 
will long be remembered. Among his illustrious progeny 
such names as Antonio, Rowdy Rod, Orlando, Joey B., 
Toledo Blade, Bonair, Rod's Sue, Topsy's Rod, Clementina, 
Cynosure, etc., occur to the student of field trial form as 
many time winners of the principal field trial events. His 
get won three Derbies in succession at the E. F. T. C. Trials 
and in 1889 his get won three of the principal All-Age stakes. 
Roderigo was by Count Noble out of Twin Maud. 
Pointer Club Meeting. 
Editor Forest and SVrea/m: 
A special meeting of the board of governors of the Pointer 
Club was held Dec. 8 at the office of the president, 44 Broad 
street. President Wise called the meeting to order with the 
usual quorum present. The Hempstead Farm Kennels 
claim for prize money was ordered paid. 
Voted that all applications for entries in the special Pro- 
duce Stakes for 1896, which shall be made by the owner 
within fifteen days after the receipt of the official notice of 
the stakes shall be accepted by the secretary. 
The following specials were offered at the coming W. K. C. 
show: $20 to best pointer, the same to be bred and owned by 
members of the Pointer Club. But the same person need, 
not be the breeder and owner; $20 to best pointer shown and 
owned by a member of the Pointer Club with the best field 
trial record. To be judged by his or her record and not by 
show points. 
It was then resolved that the management of the W. K. C. 
show of 1895 be requested to permit the Pointer Club of 
America to appoint a judge to award the special prizes 
offered by this club. F. S. Webster, Sec'y. 
Beagles Shot. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
Who bred, owned, trained and sold Sedgwick? 
Quaker. 
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