Jan. 26, 1895.] 
FOREST AND STREAM. 
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Schlicbt Rifle Club. 
West Hoboken, N. J., Jan. 15.-The Schlicht Club held its 
weekly gallery shoot for class medals last night. Scores : Geo. 
Dorr 238, Geo. Schlicht 243, Charley Meyer 239, Aug. Meyer 231, 
Capt. J. Dedriek 233, Geo. Lautenberger 231, Jacob Diehl 230, 
Fred Lambrix 230, Wm. Schlicht 229, Geo. Keichert 230, Jacob 
Schlicht 222. Andrew Deubline 210. Medal winners— Geo. Dorr, 
champion medal; Aug. Meyer, first class medal; Geo, Lauten- 
berger, second class medal; Capt. Dedriek, third class medal. 
Greenville vs. Our Own. 
Hoboken, N. J., Jan. 16.— The return match between teams 
representing the Greenville liifle Club and the Our Own Club 
was shot off on the range ol the Our Own Club this evening. 
There was a large gathering of Hudson county marksmen pres- 
ent to witness the contest. 
The Our Own team shot in better form than in the previous 
match, but the Greenville team being reinfo.eed by some of its 
first class men held the Hoboken team safe and won the match 
by 35 points. Scores: 
Greenville Team— Agneau 222, Charlock 233, Chase 222, Dodds 
239, Holza,pfel210, Collins 24.3, Purkess 237, Chavant2i0, J. Boag 
240, E. Wuestner 193; total, 2,279. 
Our Own Team.— Eruse 223, Sessman 214, Steuber 233. Dilger 
220, Malz 234, Heucken 220, Kloepping 228, Murray 226, Stuhrman 
219, Meyer 212; total, 2,214. 
Zettler Rifle Club. 
New Yobk, Jan. 16.— The Zettler Ciub held its weekly shoot on 
Tuesday night lor prizes in the winter series; 13 members were 
present and participated in the competition for high scores. 
Philip Fe.gel made 245 on the first entry for the champion 
medal; this score remained high for the night. The best 10-shot 
score was made by Holges aud Dorrler who made 49 each. Louis 
Flach made the highest total for the best 5 scores, 1228; Boss 
was second with 1225. Scores : 
Champion medal: Ph. Feigel 245, F. C. Boss 244, M. B. Engel 
243, Or. Grosch 242, L. Flack 242, M. Domer 241, H. Holges 241, 
H. D. Muller 239. C. G. Zeitler 238, B. Zetller 237, J. B umonberg 
235, G. Nowak 234, S. Buzzini 229. 
Five best scores : 
LPiaoh 242 248 248 248 242—1228 
FCBoss..... ..214 246 213 216 246—1225 
M Dorrler -. ..-.241 243 249 247 244-1224 
HHolges .241 240 245 249 242—1217 
MBEugel 243 217 241 241 244—1216 
Best 10-shot score : H. Holges 249, M. Dorrler 249, L. Flaeh 248, 
M. B. Engel 247, B. Zettler 246, F. C. Boss 246, Ph. Feigel 245, G. 
Nowak 245, H. D. Muller 239, Dr. GroBch 242, C. G. Zettler 243, 
S. Buzzini 233, J. Bl umonberg 235. 
A Close Shave. 
Geeenville, N. J., Jan. 17. — One of the best team contests shot 
in or about New York in many a day was shot on the Greenville 
Ciub ranges to-night. 
It was the first ol the series of matches between teams of eight 
men representing the Empire Billy Club of JSew York and the 
Greenville Bifle Club of this borough, locally known as the 
"Farmers." 
The Empire team next to the famous Zettler Club is known as 
the strongest group of ga.lery marksmen in New York, and when 
the match was made it was looked upon as a cinch tor the Em- 
pire team. But the result of the match proves the old saw to be 
true : "There's many a slip betwixt the cup aud the lip." There 
was a large gathering ol riflemen from New York and Hudson 
County aud the club-house was taxed to its utmost to accommo- 
date the crowd present. 
After the members of the two teams had shot their prelimi- 
nary practice score the match was opened, Barney Zettler of the 
Zettler Bifie Club was elected referee and C. \Y. Agneau of tlie 
Greenville Club scorer. Wm. Bosenbauru of the Empire team 
Was the first man to enter the contest for his team. This marks- 
man is considered one of the best gallery shots in New York 
and he was booked to put up a score that would paralyze the 
Jerseymen. But Bosenbaum was not equal to the task laid out 
for him. In previous practice he had put up 246, and now he 
made 234. Another good thing gone wrong. George Purkess of 
the Greenville team was the first man to lead off for the Jersey- 
men. Purkess is one of the reliable men of his team and is 
usually good for an average score. But Purkess was out to the 
Hoboken match the night previous, where tho team did not 
reach home until the morning light was breaking, tired nature 
exerted itself and the result was that Purkess quit with a total 
of 233. So the Empire team started off in the lead. 
As the match progressed the men of both teams with few ex- 
ceptions were a disappointment. When the seventh man of the 
Greenville team had finished his score, the eightn and last man 
of the Empire team had finished and the total for the Empire 
team was 1882 points. The eighth and last man of the Greenville 
team. M. Dorrler, had yet to shoot and in order to win the match 
Dorrler must make 243 points; this score would give the match 
to Greenville by a margin of 1 point. 
When Dorrler went in to shoot his score the positions of both 
teams were decidedly interested in the outcome of the old vet- 
eran's labor. Bets were freely offered and quickly accepted that 
Dorrler would not make the number of points necessary (243), 
to give Greenville the victory. Dorrler's first four shots had the 
effect to cool the ardor of many of his iriends, for he had six 
points off. He had six more shots to shoot and to win he must 
make five forty-fives and one twenty-four. Would he do it? 
Dorrler's fifth shot was in the center, a twenty-five. The shout 
went up, Mike's all right. He's found the shot. His sixth, sev- 
enth, eighth and ninth shots were all in the twenty-five ring. The 
last shot was to come. A twenty-four would win. 
There was a long wait before Dorrler consented to press the 
trigger to let loose the last bullet that was to decide the momen- 
tous question. At last it came and settled itself well In the 
twenty-four ring. Greenville wins ! Dorrler is king ! Long live 
Dorrler. A rush was made for Dorrler, and the old veteran 
perched upon the shoulders of his olubmates was carried 
around the club-house midst the greatest excitement. There 
was considerable argument on the part of the Empire's men 
over the score of one of the men ol the Greenville team (Plaisted) 
whose second shot was a matter of dispute, the Greenville judge 
claiming it to be a 25 and the Empire judge calling it a 24. The 
decision was left to one of the visiting marksmen, W. J. Hen- 
nessey, of the Excelsior club. Mr. Hennessey decided the shot 
to be 25. So the Greenville club added one more mark to its 
long list of victories. 
The average of the two teams was low, much below what was 
expected to bo the result of the match But this is accounted 
for from the fact that the men of both teams were worked up to 
a high tension. "We must win" was the all absorbing topic of 
both teams. The usual result followed; low score and indi- 
vidual disappointment. The Greenville ciub, under the lead ot 
its president, Edwin Ban-, had prepared a fine lunch for the 
visitors, and as ••chef" for the occasion, Mr. Burr allowed no 
visitor's stomach to depart in emptiness. Every one went away 
with a "deck load." Areturn match wi'.l be shot off on the 
Zettler ranges, No. 219 Bowery, New York, on Jan. 31. Scores- 
Greenville Team : Dorrler 243, Collins 241, C. Boag 230 Cha- 
vant 227, Plaisted 236, J. Boag 236, Bobidoux 237, Purkess 233. 
Total 1883. 
Empire Team : Bosenbaum 234, Maisenho'der 235, Kohn 232, 
Grimm 231, Buss 245, C. Zettler 234, H. Zettler 231. Zahn 240. 
Total, 18S2. 
Zettler Club Tournament. 
The three days' prize shoot of the Zettler Bifle Club was 
brought to a close last Tuesday night. All the prominent gallery 
experts in and about New York were present and participated 
in the contest for the prizes. The programme called for fifteen 
prizes on the ring target. On the bull's eye target there were 
ten prizes for the best centre shot and two premiums for the 
most bull's eyes. The Bhooting was of a first-class order, many 
full scores being made on the ring target scores: 
Bing target, 3 shots per score, two best to count : A. H. Iabell 
149, H. M. Pope 149, Louis Flach 149, H. Holges 149, F. C. Boss 
149, M. B. Engel 149, M. Dorrler 148, Wm. Bosenbaum 148, Jos. 
Dodds 147, W. C. Collins 146, C. G. Zettler 146, C. Horney, Jr., 
146, B. Wa'lther 146, Ph. Feigel 145. II. D. Muller 144. 
Bull's eye target, 10 prizes for best centre: Louis Flach 9 
deg., Wm. Bosenbaum 9%, Gus NorooK 10, Henry Holges 10%, 
W. C. Collins 11, B. Zettler 11%, M. B. Engol 12, Philip Feigel 
13%, B. Walther 13%, C. J. Zettler 15%. 
Premiums : Most bulls, H. D. Miller 26, M. Dorrler 22. 
The shooting committee of the National Bund has issued the 
English edition of the programme for the great festival which 
takes place in Glendale Park, Long Island, next July. Any per- 
son desiring a copy of the programme and rules governing the 
shoot can procure the same by addressing the secretary, Chas. 
F. Boedel, No. 12 St. Mark's place, New York city. All rifle asso- 
ciations in the country who are interested in promoting rifle 
should avail themselves of the opportunity to join the Bund be- 
fore the entry books are closed. Only members belonging to 
societies in the Bund can participate in the competition for 
prizes on the Columbia and German targets. The prize list on 
these two targets will aggregate thousands of dollars in cash and 
merchandise. 
The Greenville (N. J.) Bifle Club at its last regular meeting 
voted to join the Bund. 
The Wiliiamsburgh Shooting Association, of Brooklyn, E. D., 
will hold its annual gallery tournament next month. 
There will be a meeting of the delegates of the National Bund 
at headquarters, No. 12 St. Mark's place, on Friday night of this 
week. 
"We have received from the New York branch of the Rochester Brew- 
ing Company a handsomely lithographed calendar. Around the sides 
are half a dozen sieins of various forms represented as hanging from a 
door, while in the centre in a picture of three old cronies enjoying their 
beer. — Adv. 
YACHT NEWS NOTES. 
Lagonda, steam yacht, under charter by Bev. W. L. Moore to 
D. C. Mantell for a cruise to the West Indies, has been held at 
Fernandina on charge of carrying munitions of war. It is sup- 
• posed that she and another steam yacht, the Amadis, chartered 
Dy the same party, are to bo used "in some filibustering expedi- 
tion. 
Yampa, schr., R. S. Palmer, sailed from New York on Jan. 
17, for Gibraltar, in charge of Capt. Edwd. Sherlock. On 
board were Messrs. T. C. and VY. I. Zerega, who will be joined 
later by Mr. Palmer. A broken leg, which is just healing, has 
compelled Mr. Palmer to make the passage by steamer, 
Sylvia, steam yacht, Vice-Conimodore E. M. Brown, New- 
York Yacht Club, arrived at New York on Jan. 16, having left 
Queenstown, on Dee. 20, calling at Madeira on Dee. 2o-M7, and 
at Bermuda, on Jan. 10-13. Captain Arthur II. Clark was in 
command, accompanied by Mrs. Clark, The yacht procjeded 
to Port Jefferson on Jan. 18, where she is now laid up. 
The R. Y. C. Challenge. 
The London Times of Jan. S, gives the following report of the 
meeting of the Royal Yacht Squadron on the preceeding day T : 
"It is now certain that there will be a contest for the 
America Cup next fall, between a new 80 foot Valkyrie, 
designed by Mr. G. L. Watson, for Lord Dunraven, and a Cup 
defender to be built in America. The members of the Royal 
Yacht Squadron held a special meeting Jan. 7 at noon at 
Boodle's Club, St. James's, to consider the nature of the receipt 
which the New York Yacht Club requires tbe Royal Yacht 
Squadron to give in the event of their representative yacht 
winning the Cup. It was unanimously agreed to give a receipt 
for the Cup on the terms of "the deed of gift," 1887, without 
conditions, and thus a mutual understanding between the 
Royal Yacht Squadron and the New York Yacht Club Com- 
mittee has been arrived at, the formal acceptance of the chal- 
lenge being now only required to complete negotiations. The 
Prince of Wales, Commodore, presided at the meeting, and 
there were present the Marquis of Ormonde (vice commodore), 
Lord Ashburton, Mr. R.A. French Brewster, Mr. Godfrey Bar- 
ing, Sir R. H. Buckley, Mr. E. S. Bowlbey, the Earl of Caledon, 
Mr. W. R. Cookson, Capt. J. Towers Clark, Lord Colville, of 
Culross, Mr. W. N. Diggle, Earl of Dunraven, Sir Henry Ed- 
wardes, Major Seymour Wynne Finch, Sir John Fowler, Mr. 
Montague Guest, Mr. Henry Hervey, Mr. A. Harcourt, Mr. F. 
M. Huth, Mr. Willfam James. Lord A. Gordon Lennox, Lord 
Lonsdale, Mr. S. H, Montgomery, Admiral the Hon. Victor 
Montagu, Mr. Philip Percival, Jr., Lord Revelstoke, Major W. 
H. Ptoberts, Cot. John Sterling, Lord Suffield, Mr. S. Nugent 
Townsend, Mr. Arthur Verschoyle, Mr. John Wardlaw, Mr. J. 
Roberts West, aud Sir Allen Young. 
"Lord Dunraven explained the situation at some length, to 
the meeting. He alluded to the objections raised by tbe Royal 
London Yacht Club in 1887, when tbe new deed of gift was 
made public first, to the resolution passed in 1888 by the Yacht 
Racing Association to express their disapproval of the form of 
the deed, to the refusal of the Royal Clyde Yacht Club to 
forward a challenge under the deed, and to the negotiations of 
1889. All these matters having been recounted in full by the 
Times, do not require repetition. The position now, he said, 
was similar to that which had been left open m 1889, the races 
of 1893 having taken j>lace on the special terms that "should 
the Cup come into the possession of a British yacht club, it 
should be held subject to a challenge on j>recisoly similar terms 
as those contained in this challenge; provided always that the 
club shall nob refuse a challenge in accordance with the condi- 
tions laid down in the deed of 1887." In 1894, however, the 
New York Yacht Club went back to the position in 1889, but 
held the opinion that the mutual agreement clause would over- 
come ail difficulties. Thus Mr. Smith had written Nov. (15, 
1894), 'Any agreement that the Cup if won by you should be 
held open to challenge under precisely the same conditions as 
those under which you challenge is superfluous, for, under the 
provisions of the deed, a winner would certainly be entitled to 
do so, without any acquiescence on the part of the New York 
Yacht Club, and be perfectly free to publicaily announce his 
intention of so doing." The same gentleman had written (Dec. 
11, 1894), "We cannot understand why, with power to make 
any agreements desired for a match with the holder of the Cur>, 
the Royal Yacht Squadron, for example, should expect us to 
covenant that must do what they can do and want to do, nor 
why, after all the correspondence which has taken place, there 
should be any fear in the absence of such agreement with us, of 
even appearing to expect, as the party challenged terms differ- 
ent from those under which von challenged, as expressed in 
your letter of Nov. 7, 1892." The New York Y r aeht Club, Lord 
Dunraven said, evidently placed a very broad intrepretation on 
the mutual agreement clause, and further, by proposing to sail 
in November, had shown that it was possible, in their opinion, 
to break one of the most stringent clauses in the deed of 1887. 
Indeed, if this clause could be broken by mutual agreement, it 
was obvious that no binding clause could be attached to any 
clause or condition in the deed. For his own part, Lord Dun- 
raven did not think the construction placed upon the deed of 
gift was correct, and believ ed that the mutual agreement clause 
was intended to apply to the details of the races; but if the 
New York Yacht Club placed their construction on the deed, 
he saw no reason why the Royal Yacht Squadron should 
object. They could not be said to be receding trom their posi- 
tion if fchey accepted the New i'ork interpretation, and the sole 
question for them to consider was whether having regard to 
that interpretation, the Royal Yacht Squadron could give the 
required receipt if the occasion for doing so shou hi arise. 
"The Marquis of Ormonde proposed, and the Earl ot Oaleuon 
seconded, that the following should be telegraphed to America 
forthwith; "Having regard to the construction p aced on the 
deed of gift of 1887 by the New York Yacht Club the Royal 
Yacht Squadron is willing to give the receipt on the terms con- 
tained in the deed of gift, 1887." 
"This resolution was unanimously agreed to, and subsequent- 
ly telegraphed to Mr. Smith, as well as the following from W . 
R. Grant, the Secretary of the Royal Yacht Squadron: id 
Smith, Y r achb Club. New York—Cabled you to-day result ot 
special meeting of Royal Yacht Squadron; conclude challenge 
now entirely settled.— Grant, Cowes." 
"Subsequently, Lord Dumaveu having expressed at the 
meeting his strong feeling that something ought to be done to 
prevent the necessity of the long correspondence and to meet 
in advance the difficulties which had arisen in 1889 aud 1894, a 
committee, consisting of the flag officers of the squadron, bir 
Alleu Young (who, with Mr. J. Mulholland and Sir James 
Baring, was on the special committee of 1889), Sir Charles 
Hall, and Mr. Justice Bruce, was appointed to deal with any 
questions which might aris«. 
"The challenge sent ou Dec. 2 is subjoined: 'R. Y. S. Castle, 
Cowes, Dec. 2, 1894 Dear Sir— I am requested by the Earl of 
Dunraven to forward you a challenge for the America Cup on 
the terms and conditions of the chal lenge sent by me on his 
behalf on Nov. 25, 1893, but subject to any modifications as to 
dates, courses, starts, and other details which may be agreed to 
between Lord Dunraven and the committee appointed by the 
New York Yacht Club to conduct negotiations and arrange 
details. I, therefore, on behalf of the Royal Yacht Squadron, 
and in the name, of the Earl of Dunraven, a member of the 
squadron, challenge to sail a series of matches with the yacht 
Valkyrie against anyone yacht or vessel constructed in the 
Uuited States of America, for the America Cup. The follow- 
ing are the particulars of the challenging vessel, viz. : Owner, 
the Earl of Duuraven; name of yacht, Valkyrie; length on load 
water line, 89 feet. The Custom House measurement will 
follow as soon as the vessel can be measured for registration. — 
I have the honor to be, dear sir, Richard Grant, Secretary R. 
Y. S." 
The above is the only detailed report of the .meeting yet seen 
on this side. From the above, it is evident that the action of 
the R. Y. S. in finally indorsing the new deed of gift, was 
brought about solely by the influence of Lord Dunraven. In 
presenting the case before the Squadron, Lord Dunraven, still 
harping on the fact that the races of 1893 were sailed on special 
terms, and not under the new deed, has evidently glossed over 
the real issues of the case, as repeatedly summed up in the 
Forest and Stream, and has dealt -at length with the unofficial 
utterances of Commodore Smith. The result is that the Royal 
Yacht Squadron has at last backed down completely, and has 
been forced to recognize and accept the new deed of gift. It is 
more than likely that the future will disclose that the Squadron 
has no more idea of what it is doing now than it had when it 
challenged in ,1892-3, but this makes the case no better. The 
main face is that the New York Yacht Club has at last received 
an unconditional challenge under the new deed of gift from the 
■premier British yacht club. 
The position of tbe Royal Yacht Squadron in the matter is 
not one that will add to the reputation of that august body. 
After having objected on principle to the action of the New 
York Yacht Club, in 1887, as illegal and unfair, it has at last 
■withdrawn its objections in a way that is an admission that 
they were groundless. It is true that the New York Yacht 
Ciub has, in the present case, grarted more favorable terms 
than ever before, but as far as all the vital issues are con- 
cerned, they are exactly the same as in 18S7. If, as we believe, 
the Squadron and other British clubs were right in protesting 
then, they are wrong now in quietly recognizing the claims of 
the New York Yacht Club to the ownership of the America's 
Cup, and to the right to regulate at will the conditions under 
which it may be sailed for. 
As to Lord Dunraven, his position is a peculiar and a most 
unenviable one. The friends of fair play and of international 
yachting, on both sides of the Atlantic, have been engaged for 
many years in the effort to secure to all challengers for the 
America's Cup those rights as the equal of the holder in making 
a mutual agreement which were given them by the original 
donors. Siuce the making of the new deed in 1887, by which 
the challenger was deprived of all rights, this work has been 
still more imperative and more difficult. On several occasions, 
however, the club has been on the point of repudiating and 
abandoning the new deed on account of the serious opposition 
to it, and the failure to negotiate a race. 
On each occasion Lord Dunraven has come to the assistance 
of the New York Y^acht Club with an offer to waive all ques- 
tions of principle, provided the club would grant him such 
immediate conditions as he wished. It was through his efforts 
that in 1892-3 the Royal Yacht Squadron was induced, without 
its knowledge or its will, to endorse the Valkyrie II. challenge, 
and this year he has gone still further iu inducing the Squadron 
to offer an unqualified challenge under the new deed, with the 
assurance that it will receipt for the Cup, if won, as required 
by that document. The position of the Royal Yacht Squadron 
is a humiliating one to all British yachtsmen, acceptiug as alms 
and concessions those things to which they are entitled by right, 
and looked on by the American public as both greedy and un- 
grateful. That they must occupy such a position in all future 
races for the America's Cup is due solely to the long continued 
and finally successful efforts of Lord Dunraven. The Yachts- 
man of Jan. 10 has the following editorial on the matter: 
We confess to a feeling of surprise, which, we think, will be 
• shared by many British yachtsmen, at the humiliating submis- 
sion of the Roval Yacht Squadron to the New York Club. 
After repeatedly refusing to accept the "New Deed" on the 
score of its invalidity and the base nature of its birth, the club 
has now seen fit to reconsider its opinion and has claimed itself 
content to hold the trophy, should it be so fortunate (?) as to 
come into possession of it on the conditions of that document. 
Yet the facts of the case remain unaltered since 1887, and the 
same objections to the action of the Royal Y r acht Squadron will 
hold good should it receive tbe Cup as have been levelled at 
that of the New York Y r acht Club. It is uo palliation to say 
that the R. Y. S. had no hand in framing the obnoxious docu- 
ment. That is merely to deny to the club what little admira- 
tion may have been excited by the acuteness of our friends be- 
yond the ocean. 
Lord Dunraven's eloquence, and his ardent love of racing — 
with a strong predilection for international struggles— have no 
doubt achieved this notable change. But surely it must have 
crossed the minds of some of tbe R. Y. S. committee that 
Britain and America are nob the only nations on the earth 
which pursue yacht-racing as a sviort. W e have within the last 
three years or so seen a great impetus given to French and 
German yachting, and it is by no means beyond the bounds of 
likelihood that either of these countries might in a year or two 
produce an aspirant for International honors. How then, is 
the R. Y. S. to meet them, supposing that it holds the Cup? By 
insisting on the terms of the "New Deed," of course. But what 
if such a Continental challenger should refuse to sail under 
those conditions, on the ground that they are illegal? Pre- 
sumably the R. Y. S. would take shelter under the "mutual 
agreement clause," by way of showing that it walks in the 
path of right. But the mutual agreement clause, as twisted by 
the N. Y. Y. C. Committee, has been itself illegally dealt with, 
even supposing the validity of the "New Deed." The deed has 
definite conditions which may not be altered, and yet the mu 
