Feb. 16, 1895. 
FOREST AND STREAM. 
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to Philadelphia over night; had he stayed in New York trusting 
to going over in the morning, he could never have reached 
River ton in time to shoot the match that day. The blizzard 
that raged all the previous night and all day Friday, the day of 
the match, knocked railroad schedules sky high, and made 
pigeou shooting savor more of work thaa play. Bad as the 
weather was. and wildly as the gale swooped down on the 
grounds of the Riverton Gun Club, the match was shot, and 
some fifty spectators wei e on hand to witness the removal of 
the club's trophy to the Empire City In care of George Work. 
Both men did great shooting, and the score made by Work 
is an extraordinary one, when the conditions are taken into 
consideration. Although Welch retired in the 89th round, his 
score of 76 out of S8 shot at is a good one. The birds were 
good, and the wind played Hail Columbia as it whistled through 
their feathers. 
Out of his first 50 birds Work scored 48, 30 of them needing 
but the use of one barrel. Altogether Work scored 37 drst 
barrel kills, Welch being credited with 35 of the same kind. 
Under the circumstances, Work's 82 out of 89 may be classed 
among the best of his performances. His long runs were: 24, 
16, 15, 12, 11; Welch's runs were: 15, 15, 13. With a lead of six 
birds to overcome, and only twelve more birds to shoot at, 
Welch realized the hopelessness of his case, and retired at the 
end of the 88th round, Work shooting at and missing his 89th 
bird. Had Work shot at his 100, he had a chance of scoring 93; 
from the form he was shooting in, it was any odds that he 
would have made 90 or better. Score: 
G-eorge Work 1111211111122222121122220—24 
2112112222112110112211112-24 
21102 120 12221222122202222 -21 
22222222222120 —13—82 
R A Welch 
.2222221212221110221221202—23 
2121112222220210022021222—21 
2101112112112111210111011—22 
2212202101110 —10—76 
EDWARD BANKS. 
Moore Won the Larchmont Cup. 
Saturday, Feb. 9, was slightly better for pigeon shooting 
than its predecessor, Friday; only slightly, not much. The sun, 
it is true, was shining brightly, but a northwest gale was driv- 
ing the powdery snow in blinding clouds across the Larch- 
mont Yacht Club's shooting grounds the whole of the time that 
the competition for the cup presented by J. P. Knapp was 
taking place. Atemperatuie of 10 above zero did not add to 
the enjoyment of the occasion. Unpropitious as the day was, it 
speaks well for the popularity of the donor of the cup; for the 
equitable nature of the handicaps served out to those who 
entered; and ;also for the great interest taken in trap shooting 
among the members of the clubs around New York, when it is 
recorded that eleven men accepted their handicaps and put up 
their money to shoot in such weather. 
- The event was an optional $25 or $12.50 sweepstake at 25 live 
birds; handicaps varying from 26 to 30 yards, allowances as 
follows: 28 yards men," one miss as a no bird; 27 yards men, two 
misses as no birds; 26 yards men, three misses as no birds. The 
score given below shows the totals as they stood after the allow- 
ances had been shot up; the allowances were shot up at the end 
of each round when required. In the first round, Stafford, 
Butler and Jones each missed, and shot their allowances with 
the result shown in their detailed score, Floyd-Jones again 
missing and being credited with a cypher. In the second 
round, Harriman missed a right quarterer from No. 4 trap; he 
retrieved the error by killing an easy left quarterer from No. 3. 
Stafford used up his allowance on the third round when he 
drew a very fast driver from No. 1; he was still credited with 
a straight score when he killed a right quartering incomer from 
No. 3. Edey missed a strong and hard bird from No. 5 in the 
fourth round, and used up his allowance, being credited with a 
kill of a left quarterer from No. 2 when he went to shoot his 
extra bird at the end of the round. Hopkins struck a bad 
streak in the 5th and 6th rounds, both his birds getting away 
from him; his fifth was an incomer from No. 3 which fell dead 
over the boundary, while his sixth was a left quartering in- 
comer from No. 1, by no means a hard bird. To make matters 
worse he slipped up again when he shot off his allowance bird 
on the 6th round, a right quartering driver from No. 1. Harri- 
man was compelled to use up the second of his allowance birds 
in the 7th round by missmg an easy left quartering in- 
comer from No. 1; as he killed his extra bird he still had a 
straight score. "Harold" also used up his allowance on the 
same round, having a right quarterer from No. 5 drop dead over 
the boundary. Hopkins took his third and last allowance bird 
in the 8th round after losing a fast left quartering driver from 
No. 4; he followed up this miss by duplicating his work in the 
6th round by missing his extra bird. He was thus in a bad 
way, all his allowance birds gone and two misses credited to 
him. Harriman was now the only man left with any allow- 
ance; he had one more miss as a no bird; this allowance he took 
advantage of in the 15th round, when he missed a fairly easy 
left quartering incomer from No. 2. Killing his allowance bird 
he was left witn a string of fifteen kills, having the only 
straight score on the board. Seaver Page made the longest run 
o£ the scratch men before he missed a bird, not dropping one 
until the 12th round. 
Edey was the first to be dropped under the rule of three 
misses" out; he missed his 7th, 8th, and 9tb, the last two being 
extremely hard birds. Floyd-Jones joined him in the next 
round, when his 10th bird fell dead out of bounds. G-eorge 
Work was the next to receive the "green button," having 
dropped his 6th, 8th and 14th birds; he was clean off his form 
and shot somewhat as if he was stale. Stafford shot well, but 
drew some of the few corkers which were in the traps, the 
result being that he retired in the 17th round. The next to 
drop out was Harriman, who looked like a good thing for a 
part of the money. His 16th and 17th got away from him, and 
his 19th fell dead out of bounds. Butler, who had cyphers 
placed to his credit in the 2d and 7th rounds, was shooting in 
good form and was decidedly iu bard luck when his 21st bird 
just struggled over the boundary, the wind materially aiding 
it in its efforts to get away. 
This left five men in the' race, their conditions beine as follows: 
Knapp and Page had one miss each; Moore, Hopkins and 
Harold, two each. Page's 24th got away hard hit, falling 
dead a few yards over the boundary, a piece of extremely hard 
luck. Knapp had but tD kill his last bird to win his own 
cup and first money, but failed to do the trick. Harold also 
missed his 25th, leaving the otber four tied for the three 
moneys, on 23 each. The ties were shot off at three birds each. 
Moore, Knapp and Page killed their birds; Hopkins killed his 
first bird, thus completing the second longest straight run of 
the event, 18 straight; he had bad luck with his next bird, 
which fell dead just over the right field boundary ; this seemed 
to dishearten him, as he apparently clean missed his next bird, 
an easy one, too. The next series of three birds settled the 
business. Moore, who was shooting very well, killed his three 
and won the cup and first money, finishing his work in this 
event with the high run of the' day of 19 straight. Knapp 
missed his second bird of the series and took second money, 
Page having dropped his first two birds; the latter took third 
money, 20 per cent, of the puise. Knapp's position at the close 
of the event was not due entirely to his skill; he shot in differ- 
ent form to that which he usually displays, slobbering many of 
his birds in an almost incomprehensible maimer. The birds 
themselves were somewhat of an enigma. They, should have 
been good birds but they were not; strong as the mischief when 
once started, they were very loathe to leave the traps time 
after time, making the event a tedious one. The only explana- 
tion at all satisfactory is that the severe cold of the past few 
days had caused theh\feet to have been frostbitten; hence they 
would naturally be tender and would deter the birds from 
jumping briskly when the trap was opened. This made them 
necessarily a very uneven lot, corkers being mixed up with 
others that were next door to duffers. 
The way in which the traps fell to each shooter is often a 
revelation as to how much of an element of chance there is in 
live bird shooting from five unknown traps. The table given 
below shows that 248 pigeons were shot at in the main event, 
including, of couse, the allowance birds. A due proportion for 
five traps would be nearly 50 for each trap; the table shows 
that No. 1 and No. 2 were pulled well below the average: 
Moore 
Knapp 
Page 
Hopkins 
Harold 
Butler 
Harriman 
Stafford 
Work 
Jones 
Edey 
No. 
C. 
5 
3 
4 
2 
2 
4 
5 
3 
2 
2 
38 
1. 
No. 2 
4 
6 
4 
5 
7 
4 
1 
3 
0 
2 
to 
No. 3. 
•8 
5 
8 
11 
6 
4 
3 
5 
3 
4 
1 
58 
No. 4. 
8 
7 
.6 
9 
2 
7 
8 
4 
3 
2 
2 
58 
No. 5. 
; 4 
10 
8 
3 
11 
3 
3 
4 
3 
3 
3 
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Beyond the contestants, «he puller, trappers, and representa- 
tives of the sporting papers, there were but few persons pres- 
ent at the shoot. Messrs. Arthur Duane and Jordan L. Mott, 
Jr., however, found the magnet too strong to resist, and with a 
few other fellow members, put in an appearance at Larchmont 
during the day. Mr. Mott was risking a great deal, too. as he 
has only just recovered from a bad attack of the grip. How 
the shoot progressed, and all the details thereof, is told by the 
following score: 
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5 15142354134 3 3 433214234 5 2 
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F G Moore,29 2 112102212202222212221112 
J P Knapp, 30. . . . 
J S Page. 29 
A R Hopkins, 28. 
G Harold, 28 
HA Butler, 28... 
J B Harrkuan, 26. 
W A Stafford, 2?. 
Geo Work, 30 
C F Jones, 28 
£-23 
5544 5415 334325 5 3142124552 
-*-*-> \ J. <V-+,*< — >J.;<\<-Ti"<-W-> 
.2 22232*221222 12222212222 0—23 
443124145523433255 5 6 13543 
f-iT^^-tTNT^/tt^T^tH-^Ht* — ><- 
.2 12 11112222021122212222* 1-23 
24214115333 3 5423434445334 
<-<-<- ^ t S W ^ T 1 T 7> \N ^ f \ T T \-> N-> 1 
.1 12110101111222 2 11111211 2—23 
53354334525115 325 2 355 5 525 
.2 251221102221*2211221112 Q— 22 
353432422324524241114 
C M 'Sr* J TfS ft*? ^ I - ? J" ]" J 
W S Edey, 28 
Ties at 3 birds: 
1021120111112122 
3341443415245422514 
t*-\/~ *V«-,l W/* T<-<- W/" W 
.2 11121112121212001* w 
5 3 2 15 15 3x14454333 
-V* \-»T \1<-T t ^t^nn.;* 
.2 1111121021201220w 
5 135543242 3 141 
2 2 121010112210w 
5 5334435 3 1 
.0 2 2 2 1 0 2 1 2 *w 
542214513 
,2 22222000w 
w 
—18 
-14 
—11 
Moore . 
Knapp. 
4 2 1 14 3 
1<-N Ht-? „ 
..2 1111 1—6 
14 4 15 3 
T4\ NTT 
..2 2 2 2 0 2—5 
Page. 
3 5 2 
.2 2 2 
5 2 2 
0 0 1—4 
4 4 3 
Hopkins .1 * 0 —1 
■ EDWARD BANKS. 
For Cleaner Tournaments. 
Galesburg, Ills., Feb. 8. — Editor Forest and Stream: Much 
has been written, good, bad and indifferent, on this subject; as 
a real lover of a manly and beautiful sport, I submit the follow- 
ing, it has the merit of at least being new: 
We seek first to increase the number of shooters, and in so 
doing bring about a larger attendance at the tournaments; it 
seems to be very well established that both trap and field shoot- 
ng. are now extreme^ popular sports, and are destined to be- 
come more so. Such being the case, those who would further 
encourage its growth, must probe deeply and thoroughly, to 
find all the causes which now retard its increase, and prevent 
many from joining our ranks. In considering this question 
the first proposition that comes un is, that the professional 
shooter is utterly unworthy of consideration in this matter; if 
the manufacturers must have him, as an advertisement of their 
wares, then let him attend as many "shoots" as he possibly 
can, but so heavily handicap him, that he will leave some of 
his employers' money, instead of carrying off that of the men 
whose guest he is. In most trade gatherings, conventions, etc., 
the boot seems to be on the other leg, the salesmen for the 
supply houses take it upon themselves to spend their empt- 
ors' money, and right royally, too, in entertaining the gentle- 
men who are their present or prospective customers. 
The bad feeling engendered among visiting or local shooters, 
is a very unpleasant feature of many "shoots"; some are cer- 
tian to win, and others must just so surely lose; the losers are 
apt to think that they have been discriminated against, by 
trappers or referee if they are visitors; while if, as is so often 
the case, they are the local boys, they often talk about 
"sharks," and '•combinations," and "we will hereafter bar all 
professionals"; albeit that at many small "shoots" the very 
men referred to are in no sense professionals. Men like to be 
winners, whether it is a social game, a test of speed, or the race 
of life for business success or social prestige; and just so surely 
as the stakes are high and the reward great, is the competition 
strong and severe, and the temptation great to gain at all 
hazards and by any means, fair or foul, the desired end. Tne 
majority of trap shooters go to a tournament for the good time 
o be had, the commingling of kindred spirits, the being in 
and with a crowd whose inclinations are so similar; no thought 
of gain, he only hopes he wont lose too much; he expects to 
charge up a good round sum of money, "to fun, " aud if per- 
chance he should win a medal of the value of a few dollars, how 
well repaid; what an ample reward! 
On the other hand there are also present a certain class, who 
attend from one to three shoots a week (during the season), who 
represent some firm which wishes to sell to the shooter; these 
agents may be public or private; there is also the class who 
would like to fill such places; and a very small class who are 
there simply as an investment or speculation; these men are all 
cool, calculating and alert, with eyes open by which to gain an 
advantage, with wits sharpened and trained by experience, all 
of which helps them more m- less, in doing the right thing at 
the right time, in dropping into the right place; or mayhap 
three or four have a little partnership combination, by which 
they make in the divide more than they could hope to alone. 
The amateur goes from all this, thinks and talks it over with 
his friends and many of them make up their minds; the result can 
e seen to-day, in slim attendance at what should be large 
gatherings. 
As a remedy to really enhance trapshooting, as a lover of it 
for the sport of it, for which we are all willing to pay, in cou>- 
mon with all sportsmen, to reduce the cost of attending a tour- 
nament to the minimum, why not eliminate the gambling feat- 
ure entirely; cut it off, as the one thiug without which, many 
other evils will at once cease to exist, too; introduce a system 
of medals, merchandise prizes, or pay a small sum for each 
target broken; make a small and only nominal entrance fee 
thus doing away with the temptations to combinations, crooked 
work, etc., fix it so the rewards are honors and honorable, not 
financial and remunerating. Of course there are many who 
will object to this idea, but none of the better class will be 
found opposing it. The great majority to whom the trade look 
for support, can, with this idea in force, be gotten out in large 
numbers to local tournaments, and persuaded to shoot, just for 
fun. Another feature should be the introduction of certain 
events, for those who never took a prize, whose average is low 
(as shown by the books, if an organization should exist in that 
State), and another, for those who never shot at the trap. 
Cater to this class if you would put trap shooting on a higher 
plane, and make it more popular and widespread; do not let it 
be said, "we just pay our entrance fees lor the privilege of 
shooting in the company of Expert, Shark, Rounder and Co.," 
Do not continue to conduct tournaments so that the sport of 
the largest number of attendants shall be materially cut down, 
by the thoughts of their contributions to a fat purse, in which 
they knew they could have no chance, when they entered. As 
a concluding thought, allow the suggestion, that if the idea of 
establishing classes of shooters, their standing being determined 
by the records of an organization, be carried out, that great 
results might be obtained. There should be a State League in 
each State, and a National League formed of delegates from 
each State Leaguer then with properly kept books, every mem- 
ber's standing and class could be known each year, or such 
other time as thought best. 
If the Inter-State Manufacturers' and Dealers' Association, 
would really improve and increase trap shooting, would it not 
be a'good plan for them to start work along some such lines as 
these, and labor for the great majority, to bring them out arid 
increase their interests? At any rate let us hope that some one 
will feel called upon to move in the matter. The sooner, the 
better. 
These ideas were in form some time since, but I hardly dared 
to give them expression, until 1 saw the courageous stand taken 
by Dr. Jackson, of Springfield, N. J., at the meeting held at 
the Astor House, in New York, on January 24; when he stood 
up as one, who always did and would, shoot "for the birds 
nly." NARRA GANSETT 
Smeck vs. Eckert. 
Allentown, Pa., Feb. 7.— The much talked of match for $500 
between James Smeck and Isaac Eckert, of Reading, came off 
to-day at Hancock, Berks Co., Pa. T on grounds near the public 
house of Mr. Swartz. The event was shot off in a blinding 
snow storm, with a strong west wind blowing across the traps; 
this combination made the shooting very difficult. A large 
number of sportsmen from all over the State were present at 
the match. The scores made do not look large when compared 
with the former records of the two men, but, taking the exist- 
ing: conditions into consideration, they must be counted as good 
ones. Smeck was the favorite in the betting, but there were 
plenty of takers; several good bets were placed before the 
starting of the match, and altogether about $1,000 changed 
hands on the result. When the match was about half over the 
Smeck men offered 100 to 50 on their man but found ro takers. 
Some time ago Eckert beat Smeck in a 50 bird race, the scores 
standing 41-39; Smeck's victory over Eckert to-day makes the 
honors easy. A third match has been arranged to take place in 
about four weeks, under the same conditions as the one which 
was shot to-daj r . The following is a copy of the official score: 
Smeck 2020222200220022222220222- 18 
2202222202221110022220222—20 
2201112222222212002222022—21 
2222022222220021112102200—19 
Eckert. 
78 
.2202010201201210122222220—18 
0022200022201200120200222— 14 
2022210022222222212000122—19 
1000101021000210020001210—11 
J. W. B. 
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Carteret and Watsons. 
Chicago, Ills., Feb. 5. — Mr. W. P. Mussey, of Chicago, who 
has just returned from New York, says that he found the Car- 
teret grounds puzzling to shoot over. In his race with Mr. 
Edey, 11 out of the 14 birds Mussey missed were out of No. 1 
trap. There was snow on the ground, a bad background for a 
white bird. The fence made a background for a gun colored 
bird, and worst of all, a great many left quarterers out of No. 1 
trap flew toward the clump of trees, against which a dark bird 
was hard to see, for a fellow with glasses. Mr. Mussey says 
pleasanter men to shoot with than the New Yorkers could not 
be found, but he does not think the Carteret game is as hard as 
the J. Watson game, of Chicago, as the birds are taken right 
out of the coops, full fed and fat, just before they are trapped, 
and so do not fly for all they would be worth if handled to a 
better advantage. Mr. Mussey was not used to the croquet 
ball method of "flagging" a slow starter, and said it seemed to 
him like doing a combined shooting and bowling match. But 
he was delighted with his experience in the East, and the many 
pleasant gentlemen he met. E. HOUGH. 
Bronx River Gun Club. 
West Farms, N. Y., Feb. 9.— The Bronx River Gun Club had 
a shoot this afternoon. It was originally intended to shoot for 
a Franchotte gun, offered by one of the members, but the in- 
clemency of the weather acted as a deterrent to the members. 
The result was that only nine men were present. The club 
medal shoot was decided, Fisher and Loomis tieing for the Class 
A medal, W. S. Brown winning in Class B. In the second 
event, a 4 bird sweep, Jas. Duane killed all his birds, using a 
Winchester repeating shotgun with 24 inch barrels. The scores 
in the events tell the rest of the story : 
Medal Shoot, 10 live birds, handicap rise: 
MHerrington,30.2022220**0— 5 H Cathart, 28. ...2220220212— 8 
G E Graiff, 30. ..2221221122— 9 B G Loomis, 30.. 1121222222— 10 
WLHall, 23.... 121 1002202— 7 Wm Fisher, 29. .1111111211— 10 
C H Dittmar, 27.1020120222— 7 C White, 30 2121112*21— 6 
W S Brown, 26.. 1212211220— 9 
No. 2. 4 live birds, sweepstake: Jas Duane 4, M Herrington 
4, B G Loomis 3, W L Hall 2, Wm Breidenbach 3. 
J. T. Murphy, Sec'y and Treas. 
Christianson vs. Budd- 
Randall, Iowa, Feb. 4.— Editor Forest and Stream: In report 
of Christianson-Budd match contained in your paper of Feb 2, 
is following statement: "Both contestants used L. C. Smith 
guns, Winchester Leader shells, and E. O. powder." This may 
be true as far as Budd is concerned, but for my part it is not. 
My load was 3 drams Dupont Smokeless powder, Winchester 
Leader shell, primed, in first and 3-4 drams Schultz in U. M. C. 
Trap shell in second 1 1-8 oz. No. 7 Chicago chilled shot in both 
barrels. A participant is usually not a good judge as to whom 
the birds are favoring. My impression was that the first 100 
birds ran fairly even to both contestants, but in the last 100, I 
was largely favored by the birds. It looks that way on the 
score, but Budd has it the other way, maybe he is right. 
G. P. CHRISTIANSON. 
