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March 1G, 1895. 
medal for the second time, Mohr" getting the silver medal. Scores 
at 25 targets were as follows: Brey 22, Mobr 20, Benning 18, S. 
Weiler 16, Ulmer 15, Miller 14. J. Weiler 13, Acker 13, Holie, 12, 
Mertz 12. Smith 11. During the. next six months the club will 
compete for an L. C. Smith gun which will be given to the compe- 
titor making the best average score at the next six medal shoots. 
Louis T. Duryea is still shooting pigeons well. On Wednesday, 
March 5, he won for the second tim the President's Cup presented 
to the Carteret Club by George Work, its president. Although 
rather paradoxical, the "cup" is a Purdey gun, Duryea won with 
19 out of 20; among his opponents were Work, Knapp, etc. The 
birds were evry good tvpes. EDWARD BANKS. 
Weir City Scores. 
Weir City. Kansas, March 1. — Enclosed herewith find scores 
made by members of the Business Men's Gun Club at their last 
regular badge contests. "Sandy" Hamilton, who is a beginner at 
the traps, carried away the club's medal very easily on a score of 
26, allowance included, out of a possible 25, which "of course was 
very good under the circumstances. Mcllhany was allowed to 
win the President's medal on the low score of 19. 
A rather unique live-bird contest has been arranged between O. 
H. Calhotm and Josh Wilkinson, both of the Business Men's Club. 
The match will be at 25 birns, American Association rules, except 
that the use of only one barrel will be allowed. The match is for 
§150 a side, and as each seems unusually confident of winning, the 
outcome will no doubt be close. They will probably shoot on 
March 23. 
Club Medal, 25 Targets. 
Scores of club shoots: 
Mcllhany, 0 11111111101 11001110111111-21 
A. Hamilton, (5 1011110011110111111111110—20 
Abbott, 8 1110010111111000011010010—14 
Best, 5 1101001011111111101110011—18 
Doane, 4 1 01 01001 01 11 0110111 0111 01—16 
J. Hamilton, 5 001110100001 1100101J 10001— 12 
Holmes, 4 0110110110101101001011110—15 
Blackett, 5 1011010110111011111001011— 17 
King, fi 101101010111' 100000111111—16 
Edmiston, * 0100111011100000110101111—13 
President's'Medal, 25 Targets. 
Amateurs. 
King 0000101101011000101010011—11 
A. Hamilton 1110010111001010111001011—15 
.1 . Hamilton 0010110010010011001101011—12 
Abbott 010111110100010111111000.1—15 
Best 100111 1 1100111 101 011 1 0001—16 
Goddard 1001010011101100101011101—14 
Edmisto n* 1 101 1011 011100000001 OHIO— 13 
Semi- experts. 
Mcllhany 1101111101011101111110011—19 
Blackett 0101010110110101101100000-12 
* Visitor. 
, MAMALUKE. 
Trap-Shooting at Port Dover. 
Port Dover. Ont., March 6.— Owing to the heavy snowstorm 
which fell on the 4th, blocking many of the country roads, a 
number of shooters were prevented from attending the first an- 
nual tournament of the Phoenix Gun Club of this place, not 
withstanding that the day was a perfect one. Outside of a little 
delay in starting, and some slight trouble caused by one of the 
traps, everything went off very smoothly, making our first tourna- 
ment a decided success in more ways than one. Another year 
we hope to present a more attractive programme, with good 
purses, which we trust will induce some of the professionals to 
visit our little lakeport town. All events were shot from three 
traps, four moneys, high ruds, known angles, unless otherwise 
stated. Scores: 
Events 1 23456789 10 
No. of Target 12 15 15 15 20 12 15 20 15 20 
J. Fick 6 8 2 10 12 9 10 14 6 15 
F. Thorold - 10 9 13 9 14 . . 12 . . .. 12 
H. Marlott 10 10 13 11 14 6 14 15 12 17 
G. W. Price 8 13 9 13 17 11 14 16 V2 18 
P.Wells 10 .. .. 15 .. .. 12 .. .. 
J. Brett 4 3 ...... .. 
T. B. Landon 5 . . 7 
B. Fick 11 .. 9 
If McQueen 7 10 14 8 14 
W. Renton 14 12 15'.. 10 14 .. 14 
H. Collins 11 5 
Nos. 1, 2, 4, 6, 7 and 9 were 50 cents entrance; No. 5, SI entrance, 
and $5 added to the purse; No. 3 was a merchandise shoot; prizes: 
1st, "Gun and its Development," by W. W. Greene']?! 2d, Canvas 
hunting coat; 3d, 100 Nitro club shells; 4th, 1 B.*G. I. Co.'s high 
grade shell closers; entrance, 80 cents; No. 6 was a race at 6 pairs, 
while No. 7 was a team race between the following pairs: Marlott 
and Price, Fick and McQueen, Tborold and Renton; No. 9 was 
at unknown angles, and No. 10 was $1 entrance, $5 added to the 
purse. A. W. LAWRIE, Sec. 
California Trap Notes. 
Pasadena, Cal., Feb., 23. — The scores given below were made 
this afternoon., The boys had made every preparation for a good 
time, but unfortunately the birds wore a very poor lot, having 
been cooped up too long. The scores are very low, considering 
the quality of the birds. Scores: 
No. 1, 9 Blue Rocks— Confer 8. Childs 7, Stewart 3, Schurmeir 2, 
Conger 6, Rose 8, Woodburry 6, Ppnser 6. 
No. 2, 10 targets— Confer 7, Childs 2, Stewart 3, Rose 8 Schurmeir 
0, Conger 6, Woodburry 4. 
No. 3, 7 targets — Confer 6, Childs 6, Stewart 3, Rose 7, Conger 5, 
Woodbury 4. 
No. 4, 7 targets— Confer 5, Childs 3, Rose 7, Woodbury 5. 
No. 5, 32 live birds— Woodbury 19, Childs 21, Schurmeir 19, Rose 
18, Penser 12, Stewart 25, Conger 9, Johnson 11, Confer 15. 
CORVfE 
Syracuse Gun Club. 
Syracuse, N. Y., March 7. — The Syracuse Gun Club held its 
regular medal shoot this afternoon. Twenty-one members 
were in attendance and some good shooting was witnessed. 
The medals in both class A and class B were closely contested. 
D. M. Lefever and Geo. Mann tied in class A, Lefever winning 
on the shoot off at 10 targets by breaking 10 to Mann's 7. F. 
Lefever and J. Dey won in their respective classes- Scores: 
Cities .A- 
D. M. Lefever, 50 1111111111111111011111110 
1111111111110011001101011—43 
Geo. Mann, 40 lOllllllOlllOllllllllllll 
111111111110111111111 —42 
C. F. Arno, 46 • 1111011111111110110111111 
111111111111100111111 —41 
Thompson, 50 0110101010011111111110111 
1111101111111110101001111—37 
Willard, 50 1111111111111111010010110 
0 100100000110100011111111—33 
Class B. 
F. Lefever, 45 llllllllllOllOlllllllllvi 
11111111111111111111 —42 
Morris, 48 llllllllOlll 1011111111101 
11111111100111111011110 —41 
Blizzard, 45 0111111111111111111110111 
111011111011101111111 —41 
Class C. 
J. Dey, 50 1100011101111101010011001 
limilOlllllllllOOOlllll— 36 
A. R. K. 
Freehold— New Brunswick— Dayton. 
Dayton, N. J.. March 9.— Freehold this afternoon won 
another victory over her opponents, New Brunswick and 
Dayton, in the second match of the season between these three 
clubs. The day was unfavorable for target shooting, a strong 
wind blowing during the shoot, snow on t the ground also gave 
off a glare that was very trying to the eyes. Freehold won by 
14 breaks but the race for second place was very close, the 
Brunswicks heading their rivals by only one target. The 
third shoot takes place March 30 at New Brunswick, on the 
grounds of the Brunswick Gun Club. The conditions of to- 
day's shoot were 30 targets, unknown angle; at New Bruns- 
wick, each team will shoot under expert rules. Scores: 
Freehold. 
Bnrtis 111111111101111111111101111011—27 
Van Schoiek OlOllllllllOlOlOllOlllOlllOlll— 22 
Walling 001111111100111111110011010111—22 
Sherman 1101010011 00111110110100010011—17 
Hance OHIO 1 0111 01111101010011 000111—19 
Snyder 111111111001111111111111100111—26 
Campbell 010110010111100110110111111111—21 
Hall 111111111111101111111111111111-29 
Davis 001111101001101100111010111010—18 
Conover 1111111 lOlllOOlllOUOlOOllOOll— 21 
Denise 110111110111101111100001000111—20 . 
Ivins 011111011011011011111111001110—22—264 
Brunswick. 
I. Hoagland 100111110100011111111111100110—21 
Voorbees 101011010111111111001100111001—19 
Blis h 010011 11110110111 11 01100100111—20 
Stevens 111111111111101101111111111101—27 
Renyolds 010010111111101111110111110011—22 
A. Pettit 001110000101111100111110111101—19 
Mundy 1111010101 0110111 1111101100001— 20 
M. Allen 001101011011101011101011111011—20 
Fisher 010011101111001011111111101110—21 
Van Nuis 001101111111001001000010111111—18 
Sperling. ' 111011111111100010101100011110—20 
Clark 111111101111110011100111111100—23-250 
Dayton. 
Fh illips 010111111100110111111010010011—20 
McDonald 010011101111001011000111001011—17 
Blackwell 000001111111110101110110111110—20 
Snook 01111011 11110001 01 000110111110— 19 
Carroll 111111100111010001111101111111—23 
VanDyke 111111111111011110110111111111-27 
M. Farr 010011001111101010011110101111-19 
P. Emmons 111111110010111111011101111110—24 
Clinton 010010011100101110101111111111—20 
Allen 001111011101011111110110011010—20 
Barclay 0101111 11110101111111011101111—24 
Groendyke 001010011101110101010010011011—16—249 
March 7. — The following scores were made this afternoon at 
the regular monthly club shoot; 30 targets, unknown angle; 
weather cloudv, with occasional showers: 
-McDonald 29, P. Emmons 21, Blackwell 25, Snook 24, T 
Emmons 22, Barclay 21, Clinton 23, Rightrnire 23, VanAcIr e 
20, M. Farr 24, Carroll 25, Groendyke 20. 
Hartford Gun Club. 
Hartford, Conn., March 9. — The following scores were made 
by the members of the Hartford Gun Club at their regular 
shoot this afternoon: 
Ford 1 1 11111111011111111111111-24 
W adsworth OlllllllllllllHlllOlllOll— 22 
Sexton 1101111110111121111101111—22 
White 1111111111111110101011011—21 
Mills 11111111101 11011110110111—21 
Melrose HI 0 1 11] 10111 1 11 11101 101 1—21 
Tucker Ill J 00j 111111111111110101— 21 
Ropkins 01110111010111101011011] 1—18 
wiieos oon noi oi 1 1 o i oo 1 1 1 1 o i loll— 1 6 
Britton 001 00 11010 1 0011101 011 0010— 12 
D. S. W ADSWORTH. 
The Grand American Handicap. 
Pittsburg, Pa., March 9.— The Interstate Association, since 
its origin, has worked for, and been wonderfully successful in, 
the elevation of trapshooting. Its introduction of so important 
an event as the Grand American Handicap has resulted in 
placing live bird shooting on an eminence as distinguished as 
that which lifts Monte Carlo events into such prominence. 
There is little doubt but that at the conclusion of this event in 
1895 it will rank with the main events of Monaco. When the 
expense and excellence of arrangements of the Grand American 
Handicap of 1S95 are considered, it cannot but place the Inter- 
state Association in the foremost rank of such organizations 
in the world. Aside from the completeness of the mechanical 
adjuncts of the affair, care has been taken to make it, and the 
minor events surrounding it, the most attractive programme 
ever conceived in that line. The management need have no 
dread of the successful termination of all the events scheduled. 
Iu one of them, and especially in the Grand American Handi- 
cap, have the interests of every shooter, high and low, expert 
and amateur, been neglected. Shooters can enter any of the 
contests without confronting the fear that favorites only will 
be played, and the new and undistinguished shooter be for- 
gotten. It is the aim of the management to conclude the 
Grand American Handicap and its kindred events with the 
encomium, that while the great might have won, the humble 
will not have it to say that he was unfairly treated in the race. 
There is little doubt but the experience gained through taking 
part in these contests, and contact with the most renowned 
shooters of this country, will result in untold good to those 
already wise and those but beginning to understand the arts 
and ways of this noble sport. | 
Sportsmen who contemplate making entry for the Grand 
American Handicap should not forget that regular entries close 
March 30, and must be sent to J. A. H. Dressel, Seeretary- 
Treasurer, 313 Broadway, New York city, on or before that 
date. ELMER E. SHANER, Manager. 
off Work missed his first bird; Capt. Money lost bis chance to 
win by letting his bird get over the boundary, where it fell 
dead. Work then killed his next nine birds and won the cup 
when the captain dropped his 10th bird. The ninety-threes 
divided third and fourth moneys without a shoot off. The 
balance of to-day's proceedings were sweeps of various kinds, 
Work and Knapp both showing up well. 
The scores in the main event are given below. In order to 
facilitate the shooting of the 1,500 birds in a single day, the 
club's old grounds were brought into service as well as the 
river grounds; the shooters were divided into two squads, one 
squad shooting at the old grounds, while the other squad shot 
at tbe new grounds. As soon as each squad had shot 50 
pigeons, they changed grounds. Scores: 
George Work, 30 2222222222212222202122122—24 
22221011121222222010*2222—21 
2222222222212220222222222—25 
2222222212212222222222122—24—94 
Captain Money, 27 1221122102212222122122211—24 
2222212122*1121 21 11220212- 23 
2212202220021211221222212—23 
2022021 122212222222222222—24—94 
"Jim Jones," 27 2211121221222221021211122—24 
2121222111222221022211202—23 
0022222221220202222122111—21 
2111122221111122221222222—25—93 
John Baker, 27 2102*12121212212111*22212—23 
2222222122202201211221112—23 
2211211202112111220212102—22 
2111122121221112212222212—25—93 
J A Post, 27 2222012122110012222222221—22 
2121111011222120102122222—23 
212222*22122221 2222202221—23 
2211121122121121121222122—25—93 
F G Moore, 28 , 1122212221222222222112112—25 
2212221011210222112221110—22 
220*2222*22*2222221222222—23 
2222210222122221122222222— 24-93 
L Finletter, 28 2221221212222022202222121—24 
222222202120222112212122*— 22 
222222*1*2222112222222222—21 
2022212122222222122222222—23—92 
R A Welch. 30 12022222122212102*2122022—21 
• 2212202211222222222222222—24 
2212222202122221111222*22—23 
2221220222222222*12220211—23—91 
W Downing, 27 1100222212012110222201222—21 
112221212202211211101 21 1 2—23 
2221212121202102212212222—23 
2222212122211222221211120—24—91 
" The other scores (unfinished) were: J. S. Page (27), 87 out of 
35; Mott (30), 87 out of 95; J. P. Knapp (30), 81 out of 90; E. 
3. Edwards '26), 70 out of 82; Jas. A. Wolstencroft (27), 63 out 
jf 75; E. Eekert (30), 63 out of 75. 
Onondaga County Sportsmen. 
Syracuse, N. Y., Feb. 28.— The Onondaga County Sports- 
men's Association held its regular medal shoot this afternoon. 
D. Lefever and his son Frank, both scored 46 out of 50 in Class 
A, the senior winning the medal; Class B medal went to Dan 
Walters with 37, J. Boyd winning in Class C with a similar 
score: 
. Class A. D. Lefever, 46; F. Lefever, 46; Forsythe, 44; Arno, 
43; A. G. Courtney, 42; A. C. Ginty, 40; H. Jones, 40; George 
Mosher, 35. 
Class B. Dan Walters, 37; R. Hunter, 36; W. Morris, 35; 
Livingston (not a member), 38. 
Class C. J. Boyd, 37; Geo. Sanford, 35; J. Glenn, 34. 
A. R. K. 
Riverton Club's Tournament^ 
Riverton, N. J., March 9, — The Riverton Gun Club's handi 
cap, 100 live birds, $100 entrance, has proved the biggest thing 
of its kind gotten up by any club in many a long year. Fifteen 
entries in a sweep of that size is something for the club to be 
proud of, and the fact that the result was arrived at in one day 
(March 8) is another matter for congratulation. The day, it is 
true, was not all that could have been desired, and the weather 
had its effect on the scores; still the rescords made are remark- 
able, no less than nine killing over 90, while three others had a 
similar chance had they shot their scores out. The closeness of 
the race shows that the handicappers were about right in their 
estimate of each man's capabilities. Georere Work and Captaiu 
Money tieing for first and second money on 94, they agreed last 
night to divide the two moneys, $750 and $375, shooting off. 
miss and out, this^morning for ,the $200 trophy. _^ In this shoot 
Wants Harder Shooting- 
Grand Rapids, Mich., Feb. 16. — Editor Forest and Stream: 
There has been much said lately in the different papers about 
the evils that are to be found in trap shooting. One of the 
worst of these is dropping for place, and it has brought forth a 
big kick from those that are not concerned in it. Now shoot- 
ers are but human, and when temptation is thrown in their way 
it is very hard to resist it. By temptation 1 mean tbe easy 
way of shooting, the blackboard system of scoring, and the bad 
condition of things generally. First, make the shooting harder, 
drop the old known trap known angle system, or the known trap 
unknown angle, which is no improvement over the other, 
and adopt the system of shooting from five unknown traps, one 
man up, or five men up. This will make shooters pay more 
attention to how they are shooting than to what the others are 
doing. Do away with the blackboard; this will be found a 
great preventive to unfair work. 
A good system to take the place of this thing was explained 
to me the other day by Ben O. Bush, of Kalamazoo, Mich., but 
1 am not at liberty to give it away, as he intends to be present 
at Willard Park during the Grand American Handicap week, 
at which time and place he will make his ideas public. In 
regard to the meeting at the Astor House on tbe evening of 
April 3, I am sure that whatever the convention decides to do^ 
will meet with hearty praise from the large number of clubs 
and individuals who are interested in the movement, but who 
cannot be present at the meeting. We all hope that they will 
decide upon something that will bring both tbe expert and 
am iteur together on an equal footing, so that they may have 
the best of feeling the one for the other. AMATEUR. 
Is Not This What We Want? 
A week or so ago a gentleman in New England wrote to 
Forest and Stream suggesting a division of the purses by a 
system that had "popped into'' his head "while reading Forest 
and Stream last evening." Upon the face of it the scheme sug- 
gested seemed so equitable and, above all, appeared to contain 
the one essential point that we have all been looking for, viz. ; 
Something to put an end to dropping for place, that we took the 
trouble to try and find weak points in it. As shown later, the 
only one we could find is really of no consequence, requiring a 
combination of circumstances that very rarely occurs. It is, of 
course, quite probable that there are some other points which 
have been overlooked, where the scheme may not be all that is 
claimed for it. Such cases, if any, will no doubt be speedily 
brought to the surface just as soon as cashiers, etc., of clubs 
begin to figure on the division of purses as given below. 
An actual test of the system was made at a shoot 
of the New York County Gun Club a few days ago. The 
result was entirely satisfactory, every member present express- 
ing himself as decidedly in favor of the system. From the fact 
that under this system it pays a man better to break as many 
targets, or kill as many live birds, as possible, there being no 
longer any advantage in "second money alone," the system has 
been named, "Straight out" for want of a better title. With 
the above introduction we will now try and explain the work- 
ing of the system, first giving the formula nnd example sent us 
by the New Englander, who adds: "For local reasons please 
keep my name to yourselves, and let me be known only by the 
name 'Green Amateur,' signed to this communication," The 
formula, etc., runs as follows: 
"Establish the relative value of prizes in points. Multiply 
the number of winners of each prize by the relative number of 
points of each ^prize; add these products; divide the prize 
money by this total, and you have the value of each point of 
prizes to be awarded. Take for illustration this example: 10 
entries, $1 each, 10 live birds each; value of prizes, 4, 3, 2 and 1 
points; result of shoot; 3 men kill 10 birds each, 2 kill 9 each, 
2 kill 8 each, 3 kill 7 each. Now figure: 
3 firsts x 4 points each — 12 points 
2 seconds x 3 " u — 6 " 
5 thirds x 2 " " — 4 " 
3 fourths xl,." " — 3 " 
• Total, 25 points. 
Divide prize money of $10 by these'.25 points, and you have 40 
cents as the value of one point, The'division of money will be: 
3 firsts, 4 points x 40 cents— $1.60 each— $4.80 
2 seconds, 3 " x 40 " -1.20 " —2.40 
2 thirds, 2 « x40 " — \ 80 " -1.00 
3 fourths, lj " x;40 " — .40 " —1.20 
$10.00 
