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There were several young girls among the whites, and 
some old girls too, and all of them found many things to 
remark and giggle about. All the while the Indians 
played their cards silently, except for an occasional grunt. 
A white man said, "Those fellows are pretty good sized 
men, average well with white men for size." 
Another said, "I wonder how they make a living here 
— all beggars, I suppose." 
"Oh, they eat rabbits and coyotes," said another, the 
smart passenger, "and the Government gives them 
blankets." 
"I wonder if they can talk English yet," said another 
spectator. 
About this time one of the Indians looked up for the 
first time and said to the last speaker: "Say, you d — n 
fools don't know anything until you live in this country 
awhile. Give me half a dollar, will you? I'm about broke 
on this game." 
The emigrant withdrew without contributing, while 
something like a flush of brand new intelligence crept 
over the palefaced crowd, which soon dissolved and 
sought the train. 
The incident is one of those that cannot be reproduced 
, satisfactorily with words. But perhaps enough has been 
given to exemplify that tenderfeet and greenhorns are 
somewhat allied, and that men are victims to circum- 
stances and the circumscriptions of their comprehensive- 
ness, I don't like to resort to such formidable words, but 
they must be used once in a while to aid our desire to be 
expressive and keep in advance of aboriginality. 
Shasta Mountains, California. RANSACKER. 
NITRO IN THE RIFLE. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
A correspondent writes in your issue of Saturday last 
that he has tried nitro powder in his rifle and that it did 
not come up to his expectations. Now I have tried it and 
it exceeded mine. 
A chum of mine, who has the same make and caliber 
rifle as mine, .32-40 Winchester, model of '94, who uses 
nitro, finally after a lot of arguments got me to try it. 
But before I took the step I wrote to the Winchester 
Arms Company to see what they had to say about it. 
They answered my letter very promptly and to this 
effect: That they didn't recommend the use of nitro pow- 
der, and then went on to say: "Of course it (nitro powder) 
can be used and is used satisfactorily, but we cannot see 
any advantage in it except the slight absence of smoke. 
It is not as good as black powder and we believe you will 
do better work and get better results with black powder." 
They recommended 17grs. by weight of Du Font's No. 1 
smokeless rifle powder primed with No. 2^ W. Winchester 
primer, and finished by saying I must use metal patched 
bullets. 
After quite a little experimenting I found that 15grs. of 
powder with four -^gin. cardboard wads and a 165gr. bul- 
let, hardened, did the work. If you use ten parts lead to 
one of tin in making your bullets there is no need of 
using metal patched bullets at all. I have caught the bul- 
lets so made in rags after firing and found no signs of 
stripping. 
As for accuracy, I can put most all my shots in an Sin. 
circle at lOOyds. Of course I realize this is very common 
shooting, buti blame neither the ammunition nor the rifle, 
because I have seen it put four shots out of five in a 4tn. 
circle at the same distance; the only difference in the con- 
ditions being the man behind the gun. 
In the use of black powder it is always a source of an- 
noyance to think after a shoot, "Now before I reload 
those shells they'll all have to be cleaned and dried." 
Now I'll acknowledge I am a little lazy, but I've never 
seen the man yet who enjoys cleaning dirty rifle shells, 
especially when they are as small as .32- 40a are. If you 
use nitro powder you will find cleaning unnecessary, and 
your shells last so much the longer. Your rifle is also 
much easier to clean. An oily rag passed through it once 
or twice is sufficient. How about noise? A .32 40 car- 
tridge loaded with 15grs. of smokeless makes about as 
much noise as a .25-5dO loaded with black. 
To sum up the whole matter, I think by the judicious 
use of nitro powder you have the same accuracy, range 
and penetration as black powder, without the noise, re- 
coil, smoke, weight or dirt. F. E. Jackson. 
CHICAGO AND THE WEST. 
Sept. 19.— Mr. E. 0. Garter, assistant chief engineer of 
the Chicago & Northwestern R. R., left this week for a 
trip through the Rockies, to last till the close of the sea- 
son. He goes to Missoula, Mont., and will outfit there 
for some point to the north of that place probably, 
though he may go south into the Bitter Roots. 
I hear of no large bags of prairie chickens in this State 
or any other State except the future state. Mr. B. 
Waters, of the Forest and Stream staff, New York city, 
who shot in Minnesota, near Kennedy, last week with 
Prof. Edmund Osthaus and Mr. Draper, of Toledo, O., 
states that the high bag of the party was thirty-six birds, 
with almost no birds missed. About half a dozen coveys 
a day was the average found. I have heard of no better 
bags than this so far. 
Jacksnipe are down from the North on the first flight. 
A bag of thirty-eight was made two days ago by a mem- 
ber of English Lake Club, Kankakee River, Indiana. 
The Packing of Bob White Quail. 
I remember that some time ago I spoke of seeing a pack 
or large body of Bob White quail in Texas, which num- 
bered as I thought 75 or 100 birds. The statement was 
doubted by my friends, who thought the flock was made 
of meadow larks, and who believed that the Bob White 
never packs up into large flocks of that sort. Yet after- 
ward I have met four different shooters who have seen 
such packs, and by this morning's mail have a letter 
which speaks of such an occurrence. The letter comes 
from Mr. H. B. Jewell, of Wabasha, Minn., who says: 
"I shot the first quail yesterday. I have shot for over 
fifteen years in this vicinity. Saw four large packs of 
from thirty to fifty each, and could have killed many 
more than the few I did had I taken the time. They were 
all in a radius of forty acres." 
I am disposed to believe, from what Mr. Jewell says 
that the quail which have suddenly appeared in lower 
Minnesota this fall are migratory birds, and perhaps their 
presence does not mean any great abundance next year. 
Why they should be migrating to the North is something 
not easy to say. Of course all old quail hunters know 
that these birds do migrate, somewhat as squirrels do, 
though usually with more regularity. The line of move- 
ment of the quail in lower Illinois and in Missouri is 
known and often spoken of by shooters of that part of the 
country. It is very much more apt that birds on such a 
movement would be in large bodies than when under the 
home habits on their native grounds. 
Believes in Selling Game. 
Out in St. Paul is the young sporting periodical called 
the Western Field and Stream, which carries no less a nam e 
than that of Charles Hallook on its editorial page. Edi- 
torially this paper states that its mission is to foster good 
laws and preserve the game supply of the country. Yet 
in the business columns of the paper this month I find two 
large display advertisements of game dealers, each of 
whom calls upon the sportsmen not to "throw their game 
away," but to ship it into the market for sale. "Write for 
tags and shipping instructions," says one of these dealers, 
and "state where you want your money forwarded." This 
concern guarantees "an honest count and prompt returns." 
These advertisements are so at variance with the an- 
nounced purpose and platform of the paper that the 
thought occurs that they must have been overlooked in 
the make-up. Let us trust that they disappear next month. 
Such an appeal is useless to the real sportsmen of Minne- 
sota or any other State to-day, and the misuse of that term 
must be an offense to readers who are really sportsmen. I 
suggest the advertisements be replaced by two large one- 
quarter page cards reading "Stop the Sale of Game I" 
That will be consistent, sportsmanlike and useful. 
1306 BoTOK Building, Chicago. E. HOUGH. 
PENNSYLVANIA STATE SPORTSMEN'S 
ASSOCIATION. 
The legislative committee of the Pennsylvania State 
Sportsmen's Association, that will convene at Harrisburg, 
Pa., next week, is constituted as follows, there being but 
one representative from each county: 
Adams— Conrad Meyers, York Springs. 
Allegheny — H. M; Brackenridge, Natrona. 
Armstrong — C. J. Jessup, Kittanning. 
Beaver — H. W. Nair, Beaver Falls. 
Bedford — A. J. Zeth, Hopewell. 
Berks — Henry D. Green, Reading. 
Blair — G. G. Zeth, Altoona. 
Bradford— W, F. Dittrich, Towanda. 
Bucks — Elmer Boileau, Hartsville. 
Butler — Edward Gumpper, Butler. 
Cambria — J. B. Holsinger, Johnstown. 
Carbon — Samuel M. Downs, Mauch Chunk, 
Chester— E. W. Baker, West Chester. 
Clearfield— Frank B. Row, Clearfield. 
Clinton — James W. Frederick, Lock Haven. 
Columbia — J. H. Mercer, Bloomsburg. 
Crawford— C. F. Emerson, Titusville. 
Cumberland — R, E. Shearer, Carlisle. 
Dauphin — H. M, F. Worden, chairman, Harrisburg. 
Delaware— Richard J. Baldwin, Chadds Ford. 
Erie — Hon. J. Ross Thompson, Erie. 
Fayette — Jesse O. Allen, IJniontown. 
Franklin — Thomas Nelson, Chambersburg. 
Greene — J. F. Bell, Carmichaels. 
Huntingdon— G. G. Harmon, M.D., Huntingdon. 
Indiana — A. D. Sutton, Indiana. 
Juniata — L. Banks, Mifflintown. 
Lackawanna — T. J. Snowdon, Scranton. 
Lancaster — Geo. Crane, Mountville. 
Lawrence — Fred W. Grace Newcastle. 
Lebanon^r-J. C. Bucher, M.D,, Lebanon. 
Lehigh — J. F. Weiler, Allentown. 
Luzerne— J. F. O'Neill, Wilkesbarre. 
Lycoming — F. P. Abercrombie, Williamsport. 
Mifiiin — A. T. Hamilton, Lewistown. 
Monroe — J. F. Brownell, M. D. , Stroudsburg. 
Montgomery — ^Wm. Metz, Lansdale. 
Northampton — A. W. Miller, South Bethlehem. 
Northumberland— S. A, Peck, Northumberland. 
Perry — James S. Magee, New Bloomfield. 
Schuylkill— F. C. Palmer, Pottsville. 
Snyder — H. H. Grimm, Middleburg. 
Somerset — Dr. Lenhart, Jennertown. 
Susquehanna — John M. Kelly, Montrose, 
Union — C. K. Sober, Lewisburg. 
Venango — John A, Wilson, Franklin, 
Washington — Norwood Johnson, Canonsburg, 
Westmoreland— J, O'H. Denny, Ligonier. 
Wyoming — Charles A, Alexander, Vernon. 
York— W. H. Burnham, York. 
Philadelphia — James Wolstenscroft (Frankford). 
Philadelphia— Thomas S. Dando, 34 South Third street. 
No member of tbe committee has yet been named from 
the following counties: Cameron, Center, Clarion, Elk, 
Forest, Fulton, Jtfferson, McKean, Mercer, Montour, Pike, 
Potter, Sullivan, Tioga, Warren and Wayne. 
The 30-Caliber on Game. 
New York, Sept. ti— Editor Forest and Stream: While 
out on the cattle ranges recently, and obliged as usual to 
rely on my rifle for fresh meat, I made quite a full trial 
of the .30-30-160 Winchester, using a half jacketed bullet, 
the nose being of naked lead. The bullet mushroomed 
both on tissue and bone, and it is as wicked shooting a 
little weapon as I . have ever handled. Nothing that I 
struck got away. There is no recoil and no smoke; the 
weapon is very light and handy, and the range and pene- 
tration are excellent. I have not made a long enough 
trial to speak about the accuracy with certainty, but ac- 
cording to my own experience it is as accurate as the 
,45-90, and it is equally good in long range shooting at 
antelope and in cutting off the heads of grouse. In my 
rifle there was a slight tendency to lead, which necessi- 
tated careful cleaning at the end of each day; but on the 
whole I think it the most satisfactory rifle that I have 
ever had. It knocks down an antelope as if the beast 
were hit by a sledge hammer, and I should myself use it 
without hesitation "for any game in America. The last 
shot I made with it I was in company with a Western 
friend, with whom I killed my first buffalo thirteen 
years ago. The antelope was 180yds. off, running; I 
struck him in the flank, ranging forward and coming 
out at the opposite shoulder, bringing him down before 
he had made another jump. My companion came up 
and looked at the hole the bullet made, shook his head 
and said solemnly, "I guess that little ,30 30 is the ace;" 
nd I quite agree with him. Theodore Roosevelt. 
Roe Deer Hunting* iu Germany. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
"When in Rome do as Romans do." In the far-away 
fatherland nearly a year ago an American of most excel- 
lent standing was invited by some of his numerous Ger- 
man friends to take in a deer hunt. This American had 
seen deer before, but always in the zoological garden, 
iiever in their wild state. He gladly accepted the invita^- 
tion; the novelty of hunting deer in Germany was not to 
be missed. The party was gotten together, the start 
made and the beating and howling begun. Under the 
circumstances imagine our American brother's disgust, 
standing by a "drive" armed with a 16-bore shotgun fur- 
nished him by a "German sportsman" who either forgot 
or willfully neglected to warn him to stop and examine 
the sex of each deer before pulling the trigger of that 
"German deer gun," 
Two roe deer fell to the crack ! crack I of that little gun, 
"a double on deer," and this his first deer hunt, 
Joe, your delight was genuine, your zeal that of the 
true sportsman; your gladness was only exceeded by that 
Qf your companions, and only excelled by your ignorance 
of German deer shooting. 
Your cablegram and letter received a warm welcome 
from those who have followed you over the rocky ridges 
of Pike county after the fleet-winged grouse, and cared 
for you when the chase had been pushed so fast by your 
friends that your strength failed you. By those compan- 
ions of the quail fields of North and South Carolina, 
where your grit and good qualities are well known and 
never forgotten; in the old Berkshire Hills of Massachu- 
setts, where, should you accept all the invitations sent 
you, you would be obliged to give up business, be not an- 
noyed by Mr. Armin Tenner's uncalled for criticism; stick 
to the sport, and hope some time to know as much as he. 
But in the future, while visiting foreign countries, be 
careful of the company you keep. Thomas Elmer, 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
It is true that great poets and painters are born, not 
made; but a true sportsman is made. Some indeed may 
be born great sportsmen, but as a rule the road to a high 
standard is a long and tedious one, though it has many 
delights by the way, and is well worth what it costs to 
attain. One who has attained the heights is naturally an 
object of mild envy to those who are still struggling in 
their barbarous delights. But one who is on the heights 
should not soon forget that those floundering below can- 
not see from their point of view. It seems, for instance, 
almost impossible to me now that anyone could shoot a 
grouse on the ground or sitting in a tree; yet I canremem- 
bQr — and my memory is none of the wc rjt — a time when I 
might have done such a thing myself. 
Mr. Armin Tenner has not only a commendable knowl- 
edge of the methods by which deer are to be killed, but 
he evidently carries his knowledge into practice. But 
what I wonder is, whether there ever was a time when he 
went on his first deer hunt, armed only with a muzzle- 
loading shotgun well filled with buckshot. Poor Joe! 
He has been believing for several months that his German 
friends were trying to give him a rare treat, and when he 
saw the pair of roes within easy range he thought they 
had succeeded. But now it appears that the ignorant or 
deep designing Germans have only put his name under a 
cloud in his own country. 
Do not take it too much to heart, Joe. Do not resolve 
never to slay another deer, even of the fair sex. Buy a 
rifle and practice with it diligently. Think of the time 
when you may hope to know as much as your critics, and 
when you would scorn to turn a shotgun upon a lady. 
L. W. B. 
Wild Rice for Wildfowl. 
Wild rice has been successfully grown to furnish at- 
traction for wildfowl. Mr. E. E. Thompson concludes an 
illustrated paper on wild rice in the Aug, 25, 1892, issue 
of Forest and Stream with these practical points: "Wild 
rice is very prolific and grows annually on the same 
grounds, requiring no care to cultivate. It will grow 
well in almost any water that has a muddy bottom , is not 
too cold and has not a strong current, and is not more 
than 8ft. deep. It will succeed in any of the Middle 
States and Northwest as far as latitude 50°. Rice has 
been found doing well on prairie sloughs of Minnesota, 
the water of which is tinctured more or less with alkali; 
it has been successfully introduced into many of the salt 
marshes of the Hudson River and Long Island, and it 
grows well in fresh-water marshes and on the banks of 
slow-running streams. The proper time for sowing the 
seeds is immediately after it is gathered ripe, i. e. , in Sep- 
tember. The plant is hardy, prolific and aggressive, and 
usually more than maintains a footing once established. 
Its failure to grow in so many cases is due to the fact that 
the seed has been impaired by too long keeping, and in a 
number of cases the seed used has been threshed by the 
Indians, who scorch the grain to facilitate the operation. 
A few months seems sufficient to destroy the vital germ, 
so that though spring sowing has succeeded in some few 
cases, the trial of winter storage is usually too much for 
this delicate grain." 
Off for Maine. 
New York, Sept. 18— Editor Forest and Stream: In- 
dications point to an unusually large exodus of New 
York sportsmen to the Maine woods this fall. The better 
known guides have long ago ceased booking sportsmen for 
the early part of the hunting season. Jock Darling, for 
instance, writes Mr. Eagle, of the New York C. C, 
that he cannot promise him a guide for October, though 
he will do what he can for him if he comes into camp. 
Charlie Hebbard, of the Empire Target Co., with a 
party of four, leaves next week for Norcross. Their 
hunting ground lies back of Katahdin. Mr. G. H, Haul- 
enbeek, the well-known advertising agent, with a party 
of about the same number, will try the country tapped 
by the new line of the B. & A, , going in from Masardis, 
this week. 
Mr. C. H, Webber, New Fredonia, Pa., passed through 
New York Sept. 16 on his way to Jackman. He had with 
him a fine three-barrel gun in which the two rifle barrels 
lie on top and the shotgun barrel underneath, in the place 
generally assigned to the rifle in guns of American manu- 
facture. This gun weighs about S^lbs. and was made in 
Germany. The barrels are of fluid steel and the gun is 
flnely sighted, the rear and tang peep sights folding into 
recesses when not in use. The triggers are provided with 
set screws. The stock is very straight and fltted with 
