Sept. 36 1896.1 
FOREST AND STREAM, 
DRIVERS AND TWISTERS. 
Club secretaries are invited to send their scores for publication in 
these cnlumna, also any news notes they may care to have printed. 
Ties in all events are considered as divided unless otherioise reported. 
Mail all such matter to Forest and stream Publishing Company, ShS 
Broadway, New York. 
Id the shoot for the State team championship trophy of Michigan 
at Grand Rapids the other day, when Holland beat Grand Eapida for 
the trophy, our correspondent, Mr. C. F. Rood, says that there was 
considerable difference of opinion as to what should be the referee's 
decision in the following case, and asks us for our ideas on the sub- 
ject: A man shooting at pairs of targets, and using a repeater, misses 
JBis first target and is unable to fire ac his second target through the 
shell sticking in the barrel and preventing the feeding of the second 
shell into the gun. In such a case, provided the referee is satiefied 
that tbe trouble was not caused by negligence on the part of the 
shooter (such as using bulged shells that he knew were liable to slicfc 
in the gun, or shells too long for the chamber), we have always held 
that the rule applying to missflres covers the case. The shooter 
should be allowed another pair, but he must shoot at the first target 
with a charge of powder only, the result of his previous shot being 
scored. A. S. A. rules for target shooting do not cover this point for 
any gun, but we have always thought that Rule 20 for live-bird shooting 
— "Missfire with the second barrel"— should be taken to apply to such 
cases in target shooiing. In the match at Chicago for the E. C. eup, 
emblematic of the inanimate target championship of the world, Heikes 
broke the first target of a pair, but was unable to fire at the second 
target owing to his gun not feeding the shell into the barrel. The 
referee allowed Heikes another pair. 
John H. Shaffer, of Pittsburg, Pa., who won the E. 0. cup at the 
Pittsburg Gun Club's tournament last June, has shown himself to be 
one of the best target shots in that city by winning outright the cup 
presented by the above-named company to the North Side Gun Club 
for monthly competitions. The conditions arranged by the club were 
seven monthly competitions, the highest aggregate for five out of the 
seven shoots to count. Iti the last shoot Shaffer had practically but 
one opponent who had any chance to beat him for the cup; that was 
Alex King, the noted live-bird shot of Pittsburg. King, however, could 
do nothing at the iast try, Shafft-r beating on that occasion by 7 tar- 
gets. Shaffer's best five scores totaled 448, while King's five best 
scores figured up 441, leaving the former 7 to the good. A close fight, 
but good enough to win by. 
Mr. H B. Norton, of Ironton, O., sends us the following in regard to 
his club's tournament next month: "The annual tournament of the 
Ironton Gun Club, of Ironton, C, Oct 21-32, will be one of the best 
ever given by the club. The events will beat 15, SO and 35 targets, 
unknown angles. Expert traps and blue rock targets will be used. 
All are welcome. The club will give }4, cent for each target thrown, 
as average money; first day, 40 per cent, to highest average; 30, SO and 
10 per cent, to next three. At 2 o'clock, second day, Messrs. West and 
Verges will shoot Clark and Stevens, of Parkersburgh, W. Va., 50 live 
birds, $100 per man, losers to pay all expenses. The management 
promises to all two days of good sport. The Rose system of dividing 
moneys will be used. Three moneys in 15-target events, four moneys 
in 20 and 25 Programmes will be ready Oct 5 For any information 
address H. E. Norton, Box No. 275, Ironton, O." 
Lieut. Peter Gibson tells us that he has had a inoat enjoyable visit 
in this city, and adds that his knowledge of human nature has been 
considerably enlarged by his communings with the good people of 
New York. The Lieutenant is an expert on rifles and guns, but he 
knows comparatively little about fishing. It seems cruel, therefore, 
to let him go back to Cinninnati with tbe idea that Jerseyaien habitu- 
ally secure trout by clubbing them. While J. Hildreth, of the Win- 
chester Repeating Arms Co., may have secured "thirty trout in three 
different runs one morning in 1869 by clubbing them," 1869 is many 
years ago, and Hildreth was not very big then. Jerseymeu and trout 
don't meet very often nowadays. 
Messrs. Q. W. Cole & Co., Ill Broadway, New York, have asked us 
to state that the company will send a box containing eighteen to 
twenty sample bottles of its "3 in 1" compound to any gun club in the 
United States, application to be made through the club's secretary. 
This offer is open for two weeks from the date of this issue, and 
Messrs. Cole & Co. particularly request that all club secretaries mak- 
ing application will state that tney saw the notice of the offer in 
Forest and Stream. Messrs. Cole & Co.'s advertisement in our col- 
ums gives all information necessary as to what "3 in 1" is and what it 
can do. 
We have received from Mr. Thomas Bell, president of the Bergen 
County Gun Club, of Hackensack, N. J., the following note: "A 
handsome silver cup, representing the championship of the State of 
New Jersey, will be shot for imder the auspices of the Bergen County 
Gun Club at Hackensack, N. J.. Nov. 7. The donor of the cup and 
the conditions of the contest, together with other necessary informa- 
tion, will be announced later in Fobkst and Stream. The contest is 
open to all New Jersey clubs." 
The contest for the Schmelzer Arms Co. trophy, held last year by 
Jack Parker, took place at Kansas City, Mo., on Friday last, Sept. 18. 
There were fourteen entries for the event, which was at 100 targets' 
reversed order. Sexton, of Leavenworth, Kans.. won with 84. Iti 
order came the following: Charlie Budd 83, J. 8. Fanning 82, Charlie 
Grimm 81. Gottlieb 81, Harvey McMurchy 80, B. A. Barilett 78, Jactt 
Parker 77, W. G. Sergeant 76, Norton 71, Scott 68, Riekmere 67. Miles 
and Hubbard did not finish. Sexton won the cup at the Schmelzer 
shoot last year. 
The shooting committee of the Westminster Kennel Club, Babylon 
L. I., has shortened the boundary line on its grounds. It has hitherto' 
been a 50yds. boundary, short enough usually for anybody on the 
birds George Mott always provides, particularly when the wind blows 
strongly from the northwest. The boundary now is one of 30yds. 
measured from the center trap. Scores made now on the above 
grounds will have the little black dot denoting dead out of bounds a 
little too numerous for high scores. ' 
The Epilogue Handicap at the Hollywood (N. J.) grounds on Satur- 
day, Sept. 19, had only three entries, the 100 birds a man, $100 en- 
trance, having scared away most of the shooters. Owing to the small 
list of entries the event was called off, and a 25-bird race, $25 entrance 
commenced. There were six entries for this event, which resulted as 
follows: Loening (26) 2.5, Edgar Murphy (30) 23. Bland Ballard (28) 
21, L. B. Hooper (26) 21, Count (25) 20. Fred Hoey (?8) 16 out of 21, 
Trap-shooters of this city and vicinity experienced some of the 
vagaries of the Weather Bureau last Saturday, Sept. 19. John L 
Winston was taking part in the target handic«p shoot at the Boiling 
Springs Gun Club's grounds at Rutherford, N. J., that day, and was 
not at all easy in his mind when the clouds began to whirl around 
over his head and the day turned suddenly into night. Winston made 
inquiries for the cyclone cellar, and refused to be comforted when he 
found there wasn't one. 
There will be a gathering of the clans at Harrisburg next week 
Philadelphia will be in it too, and Harry Thurman doesn't think the 
Quaker City will be "out of sight" when all is over. The Keystone 
Snooting League of that city can put a team into the field that is hard 
to beat on either targets or live birds, but both Harrisburg and Pitts- 
burg have been doing some figuring. 
Milt Lindsley says that h« is "chained to business like the other 
bear." The above being translated means that Milt cannot come 
East with Mrs. Lindsley to meet his old friends, the manufacture of 
King's Smokeless keeping him with his nose to the grindstone. His 
sole recreation is reading Forest and Stream and quarreling with the 
pet blacfe; bear that used to make his home in Hoboken, N. J. so 
peaceful and romantic, ' "' 
The tournament committee of the Endeavor Qun Club, of Marion 
N. J., has arranged for a two days' shoot the latter part of October! 
The events will all be merchandise races, the entrance fees being only 
the price of the targets. 
, The fall tournament of the Bedford, Ind., Gun Club will be held on 
Tuesday and Wednesday of next week, Sept. 29-30. Mr. F. T. Sher- 
wood is secretary of the organizaiion and will gladly furnish any fur- 
ther information regarding his club's shoot. 
Blackbird shooting has commenced on the Elkwood Park grounds 
Blackbirds from traps are somewhat of a novelty to many shooters' 
and 'are by no means as easy to hit as one would suppose. They are 
quick to leave the traps and do a good deal of towering. Their 
cheapness, as compared with pigeons, is a great thing in their favor. 
In our mention last week of the Winston- Gagnon match, which took 
place at Elkwood Park on Monday, Sept. 14, we omitted to state that 
vVinston allowed Dr. Gagnon two misses as kills. Notwithstanding 
this handicap, the Austin powder representative won by a birds on 
the 26. 
The Forest and Stream ia put to press each week on Tuesdav. 
Correspondence intended for publication should reap^ cH th§ 
by Monday f anii much earlier asfiracticable. 
The handicap on the experts that will be in force at the Pennsyl- 
vania. State shoot is exactly on all fours with that in use at Buffalo 
this summer, It is a hard one, but the boys will have to stand It or 
put up their guns. 
The Washineton State Sportsmen's Association will hold a tourna- 
ment Oct. 16-17. at Tacoma, Wash., under the auspices of the Tacoma 
Rifle, Rod and Gun Club. 
There will bs target sweeps all the afternoon at Astfalk's new 
grounds, Elizabeth, N. J , Thursday afternoon, Sept. 34. A special 
match, three men to a team, has been arranged to be shot about 
1 'oclook. 
Mr. G. W. Ooulston, a member of the New Utrecht Qun Club, of 
Brooklyn, N. Y., who has been in ill health for some time, is grow- 
ing convalescent, and will soon be able to be out at the traps 
again. 
The Elizabeth (N. J.) Gun Club announces Its eighth bi-monthly 
tournament for Oot. 27-28. iFirat day, targets; second day, live 
birds. 
Sbpt. 82. Edward Banks. . 
Calumet Heights Gun Club, of Chicago. 
Chicago, 111., Sept. 13.— The Calumet Heights Gun Club held its 
regular weekly trophy shoot to-day. There was a strong wind from 
the left quarter blowing all the time. In the trophy event Paterson 
was the winner in Class A, Whitman won in Class B, Black in Class C. 
The scores were; 
Class A. 
Booth 1101111100111110111011100—18 
Lamphere 1111111111111111101111111^24 
Paterson........ 4.. 1110111111111111111111111—24 
Wescott i . . i 1010101011100101 1111 1 1011— 17 
Knowles.. . , 110101111 linOlllOIl 10111— 20 
Young. . . . ti, 11 10000011000110000110111-12 
Cl&ss B 
Noroora ',...0100101011011100001101101—13 
Whitman 0010011101011111111101011—17 
CIbss C 
Harlan ..COIOIIOOOOOOIOIOOOOOOOOQO— 5 
Black 1100111001010111111101111—18 
Seven sweeps were also shot during the afternoon. No. 1 was at 
unknown angles. Nos. 2, 3 and 7 were at unknown traps and angles, 
No . 4 at reversed order, Nos. 5 and 6 were at 5 pairs, unknown angles. 
Scores: 
Events: 13 3 4 5 6 7 Events: 1 !! 3 4 6 6 7 
Targets: 10 15 W 15 10 10 10 Targets; 10 15 15 15 10 10 10 
Booth 7 6 8 10 8 6 4 Norcom 6 9 18 9.. 8.. 
Lamphere.... 9 6 11 .. 7 9 9 Whitman..... 5 7 6 10.. 6 ., 
Paterson 9 13 7 11 5 2 8 Harlan 4. 5 7 7 1 1 3 
Wescott...... 10 10 8 Black. 7 6 6 12 S 5 3 
Knowles 5 3 Jacobs 2 .. 
Young 4 8 McUichaels... i , .. .. 8 
Patit. 
West Lebanon Gun Club. 
West Lebanon, N. H,, Sept. 11.— The following sweeps were shot to- 
day, this being the second annual all-day shoot of the West Lebanon 
Gun Club. There were no expert shooters present, bur, good scores 
would have been expected it the targets had been made oE some mate- 
rial other than cast iron. The day was perfect and everything went 
on finely. 
All events were at known traps and angles except Nos. 4 and 10, 
which were unknown traps and angles, and 6, which was 5 unknown 
and 10 known traps and angles: 
Events: 13346678 Events: 1334S678 
Targets: B 10 10 10 10 IB 10 IS Targets: 5 10 10 10 10 16 10 15 
Bailey 3435443.. Young .... 003336, . 
Bitohelder 25455465 Wilmot.... ..3 7 6 
Renehan... 13423438 Hall 4 3 1 4 "7 " " 
Briere 12645678 Ober .. i ]" 
Pitman 3 7 4 Cross 1 '. ' 
Ciapp 0 4 5 4...,.,.. Johnson 6 .. 's "6 2 ' 
Hoffman.. 2 1 4 0 Carter..... ..6 
Carter..... 3 3 3 3 7 9 7.. 
A miss-and-out resulted in a win for Batchelder on the 5th round, 
Renehan and Clapp both losing their 5th targets. Briere, Young and 
Hall dropped out in the 2d round, Bailey ; Hoffman and Carter lost 
their 1st birds. 
Event No. 10 was a S-target sweep, Briere scoring 3, Batchelder 1 and 
EenehanO. Nap. Brierk, Sec'y-Treas. 
Fulton Gun Club, of Atlanta. 
Atlanta, Ga , Sept. 10.— Below are the scores made to-day by mem- 
bers of the Fulton Qun Club, of AtlEinta: 
Orme 0111010111001110101101100—15 
McCune 101 101 1 11001000011101 1111—16 
Mitchell ..... Ill 1 010100101 11001 101 1111-17 
Arnold IIUOIIOIOIIOOOOOOI 110110—14 
Hammond OIOOlllOlllOOOllllOlOllOI— 14 
McRae 1011111011111001010011101—17 
Richards , , . . . .110101100101 0110000011110—14 
Everett , 1111111111101111111 limo— 23 
Bennett... , llllOlOOnooilOOllOOlllOlO— 13 
Clarke . . ... ^ ..... ,i 11 01 01 001 00 1 11 1 1 001 1 1 1 110—1 6 
Frazier. . .v...... OlllOlOlOOOIOOOOOOOOlllOO— 8 
Holland 10010111 niOlOlOlIOnilll—18 
Hau inoioiiiuniioooiiiiiio- 19 
Bourne 11 000000001 00001 000010000— 5 
Rawson .....,,,,.,,..,.1111111111011110111101111—22 
Beerman 1100110011010001101110000—12 
Crabb 1111111111011111101101110-21 
Alatone 11111110lll0llllll01111ll-23 
Angier .0111010101001010111111011—16 
Day . .7."., ,,1111111111101111110110101— 21 
Morrison ;. ■ OlllOlllllOlOlOll nilllOO-18 
Blzzell 1111111111111111111111111-25 
The International Meeting in Herzegovina. 
The London Field of Sept. 12 has the following short account of the 
first 1 wo days of the international pigeon shoot which commenced at 
Ilidze, near Sarajevo, on Monday, Sept. 7: 
"The international pigeon shooting beean at Ilidze, Sarajevo, last 
Monday, when 2,000 sovs, added to the entry money, with numerous 
valuable trophies of Bosnian manufacture, were competed for. The 
grand prize of 1,000 sovs. added to an entry of 6 sovs, at 12 pigeons (5 at 
25 meters and 7 at 26 meters, ties at 27 meters), secured a numerous 
entry. MM. de Lunden and Journu, Signers Marconiciai, Pederzoli 
Mainetto, Gaioli and Guidicini, and Comte Keglevich, alone killed 
their 5 birds. 
"On Tuesday M. de Lunden led off by killing a good bird, but M 
Journu, beaten by a chnker, was quickly followed by Signer Pederzoli 
In the seventh round Count Keglevich was beaten by a good bird - 
While in the eighth round M. de Lunden shot under a fast rock from' 
the corner trap, thus leaving four Italians, Signers Mainetto, Gaioli 
Marconicini and the veteran Guidicini, with clean scores. In the 
tenth round Signor Mainetto missed, and Signer Marconicini also fail- 
ing to kill his eleventh bird, last year's winners, Signers Gaioli and 
Guidicini, thereupon divided first and second prizes, amounting to 890 
sovs, and shot off for the cup, which the first-named, Gaioli, won. At 
the sixteenth round Si^nors Mainetto, Pederzoli and Marconicini cut 
up the third and fourth prizes, amounting to 250 so^s. 
"Considerable praise is due to Barons Pereira and Pittner for their 
excellent organization of the shooting. The birds were all rocks and 
were trapped by Roberts from Hurllngham," ' 
Greensburg's Second Annual Tournament. 
The Greensburg (Ind.) Gun Club announces that it will hold its sec- 
ond annusl tournament on Oct, 14-15 The club has gotten out a very 
attractive looking programme, and issues a cordial invitation to ail 
persons interested in trap shooting to be present on the above dates. 
Shooters will be classifled, and the more expert will be handicapped 
so as to give the weaker shooters a chance to get in for the money 
All purses will be divided under the old system of 4 moneys— 35, 30 20 
and 15 per cent.— with the exception of two 20-target events each day 
in which the Ros'i system of dividing purses will be given a trial. The 
classification and handicap will be as follows: "Shooters will be clas- 
sified as they enter, and will be sliifted only when it is clear that they 
are out of their class. Class A will shoot irom traps pulled in reverse 
order- 1 and 5 Known angles, and 3, 3 and 4 unknown angles. Class B 
will shoot everything known." 
Event No. 6 on the second day (Oct. 15) will be the 50-target event 
for the amateur State badge, emblematic of the amateur champion- 
ship of the State of Indiana. This event will be shot known traps and 
angles, and is open to all amateurs of the above State. The Greens 
burg club presents the badge and also the targets shot at in the event . 
Web Woodflll, secretary of the club, will doubtless be clad to fur- 
nish ail further information that may be desired. " 
Programme for Pennsylvania State Shoot. 
Thh programme for the Pennsylvania State shoot at Harrisburg, 
Sept. S9-0ct. 2, contains a list of both State and open events. The 
most important feature on the programme is the handicap imposed 
on experts, the programme stating that — 
"All experts must break 19 out of 20, 49 out of fiO, 99 out of 100, in 
order to e-et in for money If straight scores are made. This rule will 
he strictly enforced by the manager of this shoot, and whose classifi- 
cation will be final." This is the handicap that was in force at the 
New York State shoot held at Buffalo in the month of June last. 
Some of the experts present at that shoot founrl the game rather too 
hard, but Sim Glover, who shot away up all the time, managed to 
come out well ahead. 
There will be three sets of empire traps in use at this shoot, Charlie 
Hebbard being in charge of the same. Targets, except in the trophy 
events, will be thrown at unknown angles. A good feature of the pro- 
gramme, and one that will bring out the shooters in the morning, is 
the average money offered. The programme says: 
"In all open and State sweepstake events the management will donate 
3^ cent for each target thrown, which will be given as average money 
each day: 25 per cent, to the shooter having the highest average. 
25 per cent, to the shooter having the second highest average, 25 
per cent, to the shooter having the third highest average, and 
25 per cent, to the shooter having the lowest average. Average purses 
will be paid only to tliose shooting in all State or open events on pro- 
gramme for the day, trophy events not counting for average in State 
events." 
The Harrisburg Shooting Association, under whose auspices the 
shoot will be held, adds $385 to the purses. On the first day it adds 
$50 to the State events and $85 to the open events, the latter being five 
in number: four 20-target events and one 60-target event (Gold Dust 
powder event). On the second day $50 is added to the purses in the 
State events, and $75 to the open events; the same amounts are added 
to the State and open events on the third day. Oo these two days the 
open events are five in number: three 30-target events and two 50-tar- 
get events. On the second day the two 50-target events e-i to make 
up one event of 100 targets, the E. C. Powder Company offering a cup 
to the winner of the event; this rice is a handicap ranging from 1 to 
20 extra targets to shoot at. On the third day the same two events 
make up a similar lOO-target handicap event, Parker Bros, offering an 
$80 grade gun as special prize. 
Friday. Oct. 2, the last day of the shoot, is live-bird day. On that 
day the State live-bird tropbies will be shot for; $2 miss-and-outs' will 
be shot off on the open set ofjtraps. 
The shoot will be managed by Elmer E. Shaner, who will have the 
grounds ready for practice work by Monday afternoon, Sept. 28. All 
purses will be divided on the Rose system. 
The following paragraphs, taken from the advance s'neets mailed us, 
show that the Pennsylvania State Sportsmen's Association does not 
intend to make this year's tournament merely a social event; it is to 
be for business also: 
"The annual meeting of the Association will be h^ld on the evfining 
of Sept. 29 at the Commonwealth Hotel, at 8:30 P. M., sharp, and will 
be devoted exclusively to the work of the Association, namely, the 
reading and approval of the minutes of 1895, reports of committees, 
election of new members and oflicers, and fixing place for next annual 
meeting and shoot. 
"On the evening of Sept. 30, at same place and hour. ther« will be a 
meeting of the Aasoeiation's Le.eislative Committee, H. M. F. Worden, 
Harrisburg, Pa,, chairman, and all those interested in the better pro- 
tection of our game and fish are urgently requested to be present. 
This meeting will be continued from night to night, at same place and 
hour, until the work of this committee is completed. A list of this 
committee will be found in this book." 
Western Traps. 
THE LTMtTED GUN CLUB, OF INDrANAPOLIS. 
Chicago, III., Sept. 19.— The programme of the Limited Qun Olub. 
of Indianapolis, Ind , is out for the third semi-annual tournament of 
that organization, Oct. 6-8. The tournaments of this club have always 
been of singular interest by reason of their entire independence of 
scheme and their departure fr om ordinary tournament methods. It 
has been the avowed intention of the club to hold shoots for sport and 
not for business, and no regret has ever been expressed by a manage- 
ment there that the "push"^ was not on hand or was early in its de- 
parture. The present programme is plainly marked "for amateurs 
only." The Rose system will be shot, and there is a classification 
handicap, Class A to shoot known angles from traps pulled in reverse 
ordfir. Class B to shoot known angles from traps pulled in regular 
order. The shooting will be at targets for two days, with a third day 
devoted to live birds and to the Indianapolis specialty of sparrow 
shooting, A new method of trapping will be employed, by which the 
rapid-fire and unknown trap systems will be employed, thus doing 
away with much of the slowness of live-bird shooting. If this should 
mean the leaving of birds unretrieved, thus offering the old spectacle 
of grounds covered with dead or crippled birds, even sparrows, the 
method on the face of it may be branded as undesirable and wrong 
for a tournament of to-day. There must always be time to-day to be 
humane and considerate of th? claims of the sport in general upon 
good observances. Instantaneous retrieving is the only sort, be it for 
pigeon or sparrow. 
The programme of tbe Limited Gun Club announces that there will 
be a meeting called on the evening of Oct. 6 for the purpose of organiz- 
ing an Indiana Trap-Shooters' League, and each club is asked to send 
two delegates for that purpose, or to appoint proxies. It is to be 
hoped that this movement will materialize into a grand union of the 
clubs of tbe great State of Indiana. The Limited Gun Club is typical 
of the enterprise and vigor of the shooting fraternity of the common- 
wealth. 
THE COOK. COUNTr MAGUK, OF CHICAGO . 
The seventh and next to tbe last of the series of eight contests of the 
Cook County Trap-Shooters' League, Chicago, was held to-day at the 
grounds of the Eureka Gun Club. The weather was cold and windy, 
he appearance of autumn being strongly in the air. The last shoot, 
in October, will see winter near at hand at this point. To-day blue- 
rocks and the magautrap were used. 
Up to to-day, in the race for the Mussey Club emblem, the Eureka 
Gun Club was well in the lead, the Garden City and Garfield clubs 
being the next of the eight competing clubs Eddie Steok, F. P. Stan- 
nard and G. C. Lanphere were bunched fc the first place in the indi- 
vidual race of the League. It is not safe to prophesy anything as to 
the winner until after the contest which concludes the series. 
1206 BoYCE Building. e. Hough. 
Mr. Winston Explains. 
New York, Sept, 20.— SdtftJr Forest and Stream: The charming 
and kind article in the last issue of Sportsmen's Review has just been 
shown me. As I always like to know who my friends nre, and partic- 
larly my "gentleman" friends, Mutton will confer a favor upon me 
if he will let me know his name and address. Most of the statements 
he makes are false. Just do a little figuring. Had it taken me "at 
least five minutes to shoot each bird" it would have taken me a frac- 
tion over eight hours to have shot my 100 birds alone. Then think of 
Mr. Duryea's. 
As the match commenced at 2 o'clock and was finished in less than 
two and a half hours, this statement is false. As to "nagging Mr 
Duryea," that is false also. The moment Handed in a certain store 
Id Chicago I was told I could get a race for $100 or $1,000, and the 
gentleman was "looking for mo" 
I got the race, as all know. Unfortunately I do use tobacco, and as 
I am growing old and it is a great solace to me, I shall not abstain 
even to please Mutton, As to my "monkeyisms," I am the most ner- 
vous man who ever pulled a trigger. The wiping of the perspiration 
from mj' hands, the fixing of my hat, is a little mental philosophy to 
steady myself, not to annoy my C'nipptitor. 
WiU wind up with Mutton by saying he certainly is not a Shooter, as 
he says "all shooters are gentlemen." 
Ana again wben a person repeatedly tells me he is a gentleman I am 
inclined to think that he doubts it and wants corroberation. Am sur- 
prised that such an article should escape the pencil of the editor. 
As to the editor: he treated me particularly well while I was in 
Chicago. He honored me by asking me to meet his wife I euppose 
he, like I, would onl/ introduce his wife to a gentleman. Mr. Duryea 
did offer to return "our stake." I come from a place (Kentucky) 
where we never "ruo back" and I declined it, thouah appreciating to 
the full his spirit. John S. Winston. 
Tournament at East St. Louis. 
East St. Louis, 111., Sept. U.— Editor Forest and Stream: The 
King's Smokeless Gun Club will give a three days' shoot on Oct 8-10 
at its grounds, Obert's baseball park, East St. Louis, III. Twenty-one 
railroads enter East St. Louis, which makes It easy of access to 
shooters aU over the country. Visiting shooters will be enabled to at- 
tend the fall festivities of St. Louis that week. The Veiled Prophets 
parade Oct. 6; St, Louis fair, Oct. 5-10; the St. Louis Exposition and 
theatres. 
Shoots will be arranged to suit experts and amateurs, and we sin» 
cerely hope the attendance of experts will be largf>, as they have 
never attended a shoot in or around St. Louis. The grc unds are the 
finest in the State and electric cars run direct to gate. Programmes 
will be iBBued this week and mailed to all shooters. 
^. M, TaKfiDiEYi .Sec'y. 
