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NEW YORK'S PROTECTIVE INTERESTS. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
The New York State Association has very important 
subjects to consider at its meeting in January, and its 
conclusions must in some way be brought before the Leg- 
islature so forcibly that they will receive proper atten- 
tion, elae very soon there will be no further need for pro- 
tective agencies, for there will be nothing to protect. 
Other States are moving earnestly and honestly in the 
right direction. Must New York State's game and fish 
and forest interests be at the mercy of the lobby for- 
ever? 
Wisconsin proposes to tax non-resident hunters from 
$85 to $50 for the privilege of hunting in that State. Can 
.9e not in the same manner protect our forests from the 
ravages of hundreds of "outside hunters?" 
In his biennial report to the Minnesota Legislature, S. 
F. Fullerton, executive agent of the Game and Fish Com- 
mission, vpill recommend that a law be enacted making it 
a high misdemeanor for cold storage companies to handle 
game, especially during the close season. He thinks that 
in no other way will it be possible for the State to prevent 
the great slaughter of game every fall season and the ulti- 
mate extinction of that game. This year has repeated the 
experiences of former years, and the cold storage houses 
of St, Paul and Minneapolis, or many of them, are filled 
with game which has been taken solely with a view to 
profit. The Legislature may pass laws until those laws 
fill a large volume, and yet come far short of protecting 
the game of the State, unless there is some new and bet- 
ter theory behind them. It is Mr, FuUerton's idea that if 
there is some system of better and more thorough inspec- 
tion at the big shipping points, the inducement to pot- 
hunting will be largely removed. Men will not tramp 
the woods for weeks and months and go to the trouble 
necessary in the killing and sending of large quantities of 
game to market if there is no chance for proho. The kill- 
ing of game for home consumption by tourists and woods- 
men, Mr. Fullerton says, is not particularly harmful, and 
will never depopulate the forests, but the hunting for 
profit, he holds, is a very serious matter, and one to 
which the Legislature should give its best thought, if the 
State is sincere in its desire to continue to rank as one of 
the best hunting grounds in the country. 
The Game Commission thinks that its agents should 
have the power not only to enter these storage houses and 
make seizures — this authority they have at present — but 
to arrest che storage men and subject them co the same 
heavy fines for having game in their possession that men 
are liable to who kill the game in the woods. It believes 
it is practicable and desirable to have close inspection of 
terminal points in the State, and make the storage men 
liable with the hunters for any violation of the law. 
The Fish, Game and Forestry Commission of New York 
State may awaken to the fact that its assumptions do not 
always satisfy the people, since 350,000 majority was 
given against the amendments to the Constitution which 
it approved so strongly. Such a commission in England 
would have at once resigned after such a vote of con- 
demnation; but this one will neither resign nor die, but 
may we not hope that the vote of censure will prompt it 
to see that there is sufficsient and proper legislation next 
winter to prove that it has at least some sympathy with 
the cause which it was appointed to represent? 
iNT^iGMTy. 
Tennessee Notes. 
Grand View, Tenn., Nov. 30, — Deerslayer has made a 
special plea lor his peculiar mode of killing deer, which 
perhaps could hardly be bettered. It contams a variety 
of hints which may be read with profit, if not with pleas- 
ure, by very many who carry the gun. Until we had 
read this production. Antler and myself were agreed that 
the previous communication about first noosin'g and then 
blowing oflE the head of a buck was a grim joke — in rather 
bad taste, no doubt, yet still a joke. We were evidently 
wrong, and comment seems superfluous. 
As iJlr. Theodore Eoosevelt recently said in substance: 
"If you quote to another the commandment, 'Thou shalt 
not steal,' and the other fellow asks 'Why?' about all you 
can do is to repeat the commandment." 
The meadowlarks and robins are still moving south. 
On Nov. 25 I saw about a dozen gold-winged woodpeckers, 
and yesterday a large flock of small birds, apparently of 
several sorts, passed southward. 
On Thanksgiving Day I missed a wild turkey at 40yd8. 
Shot behind him. 1 should have felt more thankl ul if I 
had bagged the turkey. 
I have had little chance to get up my shooting since I 
came here, but have up to this time killed all the game I 
have shot at. If I misa the next turkey I shall have to 
consider myself a "back number." 
Dee. 2, — We have had a heavy rain storm, followed by 
a fall ol the mercury to some 10° below freezing. I think 
the migratory birds have all passed southward. No snow 
aa yet, bat cold, northerly winds prevail and make us 
sees the fireside. 
There appears to be a project on foot to give the pos- 
sums a chance for their lives. It is proposed to give them 
a legal closed season from March 1 or April 1 to Oct. 1. 
Friends of this marsupial will rejoice. Kelpie, 
Creorsia Quail. 
Atlanta., Ga., Nov. •Z'd. — Editor Forest and Stream: I 
will ooey orders and report my luck to Forest and 
Stream. Fred and I went out Taanksgiving Day for a 
little hunt and succeeded in finding three coveys averaging 
about ten birds to the covey. We found them very wild, 
having been shot over so much. Tne smallness of the 
coveys is accounted for by the fact of there being so 
many negroes and pot-hunters. 
The last Legislature placed the open season on quail 
one month later this year, but it seems to have had no 
effect on them. I saw birds on sale as early as Sep- 
tember. 
I notice that some of your correspondents seem to doubt 
the ability of any one to clip the heads off quaU with a 
rifle. I went out early one morning several days ago 
with my little ,33cal, Stevens with ,32 short smokeless 
cartridges, and succeeded in clipping the heads off two. 
As they were very wild, I had to crawl up to them. I 
shot one at about aOyds. and the other at ninety-two paces 
(about 75yd8.). I use smokeless cartridges because they 
do not make enough noise to scatter the birds, 
£[. P, El 
Iowa Field Notes. 
NbvabI, la., Nov. 17. — Editor Forest and Stream: 
Iowa duck shooting has been better this fall than lor 
many years before. Many of the ponds are again filled 
with water and that fact calls to mind the old times when 
Iowa was a duck hunters' paradise. I have just finished 
reading Mr. Mather's last article on "Men I have Fished 
With." If Mr. Mather is as genial and entertaining a 
companion in the camp as he is in writing, then do I 
envy the men of whom he writes. 
I had feared that by the death of O. O. S, we readers 
of Forest and Stream had lost an entertainer who could 
not be replaced; but, though we miss him sadly. Forest 
AND Stream rises to the emergency and for the enter- 
tainment ot its readers once more has been fortunate in 
securing that inimitable writer and sportsman. Judge 
Green, of Portland, Ore. Truly we of the Forest and 
Stream family are more than lucky. Often, as I read the 
contributions of such men aa Mr, Mather, Judge Green, 
O, O, 8,, E, Hough and Rowland E. Robinson, do I have 
a feeling of pity for those of my teUow beings in whom 
the love of nature and field sports has not been developed. 
How many, many happy hours have I whiled away in 
tne pursuit of the sports of the field and stream, and in 
reading the experiences of others such as those named 
above. This love of nature and the sports of rod and gun 
afield are a blessing to any man. 
Quail are on the increase in Iowa, and if we do not 
have an unusually hard winter we will have as good 
quail shooting by next fall as any reasonable man could 
\*'ish for. Prairie chickens are holding their own remark- 
ably well, considering the way they are hunted, in season 
and out of season, Mr. E, Totten, living about one-half 
mile west of our city limits, recently lost a lamb and 
came to the conclusion that, the killing was done by 
wolves. As Mr. Totten is not raising sheep for wolf f ooa, 
he placed strychnine out and soon had the wolf. The 
wolf, a gray timber wolf, was poisoned within a quarter 
mile of the limits of our town of 3,500 inhabitants. 
John C, Briqgs, 
Observations on tlie Natural History^ of the Genus 
Homo. 
Greenville, Pa., Dac. 1. — Editor Forest and Stream: 
In readiag the various articles in the Forest and Stream 
regarding whether the game belongs to the sportsman or 
guide, the same brings up another argument, namely: 
the difference between the so-called sportsman and the 
market-shooter, sometimes called game hog. 
I know of many who call themselves sportsmen. They 
are sportsmen in fine shooting clothes, hammerless gun87 
and fine dogs; but that is all. They are poor shots, and 
they hire guides, mostly master shooters, to kill the game 
for them, so that they can have a big bag of game to 
show at home and blow about. They do not care whether 
there is another bird left in the woods or fields just so they 
have a big bag, the larger the better. 
Now what IS the difference between such sportsmen and 
market-shooters? Which is the game hog? What is a 
game hog? A game hog is one whose object is to kill all 
the game he can find. The market-shooter's object is to 
kill all the game he is able to find. Therefore he is a 
game hog. The fore-named sportsmen go out and induce 
game hogs to kill all the game for them that they are 
able to find. 
Is such a sportsman a game hog? H. P. Beaver. 
A Florida Game. Country. 
MiNNEOLA, Fla., Nov. 87.— Quail are very plentiful in 
this ^ectiou of Florida, 'i'he game law has been respected 
by most shooters, I have resided in this locality for six- 
teen years, and quail were nevermore abundant. An old 
native asked me co come down to his place and take a bear 
hunt, and I went. We saw plenty of sign, but failed to 
jump a bear. My Gordon Kex found eleven bevies of 
turkeys, some of them containing twenty-five birds. 
These birds were found on what is called Green Swamp, 
lying in both Lake and Polk counties. The old native has 
lived on this swamp for thirty years, and says he never 
saw so many turkeys. We bagged seven of them. They 
were full grown, and very fine eating. Ducks have not 
come as yet; it has been too warm north of us. After a 
cold snap we shall have some bluebills and mallards. The 
past summer was very dry, consequently the deer stay 
back in the swamps. On account o£ poor laws and mar- 
ket hunters they have become very limited in numbers in 
this locality. E, H. 
Deer and Dogs in Pennsylvania. 
Pittsburg, Pa., Dec. 3 — Editor Forest and Stream: 
We aie very much surprised to read in Forest and 
Stream the account, under title "Hunter's Lack," by 
Jacooataff, in issue of Nov. 21, that Dr. P, W, Levering, 
Dr, Z. P, Fletcher, John Polhemus and James Earl, of 
Jersoy City, and hunter Rabeurdin, of Pike county. Pa., 
had been hounding deer lu this State. The law prohibits 
hounding or running deer with dogs at all times. An ac- 
count appeared in Forest AND Stream columns about a 
year ago of something similar tuat took place in West 
Virginia, and this now in our own State is too much. We 
think they deserve editorial mention, and that the fact 
that there is such a book ae^ Oame Laws in Brief were 
made better known. N. H. if inley. 
Pennsylvania Deer and Birds. 
Spruce Cabin House, Canadensis, Pa., Monroe Co. — 
A party ot hunters left the Spruce Cabin House, Canaden- 
sis, Monroe county. Pa., Nov. 33 to hunt for large game. 
It consisted of Wm. P. Ketcham, G. E. Ketoham, Jr., of 
New York; the proprietors of Spruce Cabin House, Messrs. 
Wesley J. and Milton D. Price, with Paul Price as guide. 
After hunting across the country to the shores of Lake 
Ted-us-kung in Pike county, they there put up for the 
night. The next day, on tneir return trip, a large buck 
weighing aSOlbs. was sighted, and shot by Mr. Milton D. 
Price. A large number of pheasants and gray squirrels 
were also shot on trip. 
In Wisconsin. 
Cable, Wis., Nov. 36. — Deer are very plentiful here. 
Lots ot grouse have come la here within three years and 
also plenty of partridges. Plenty of them have been 
killed this fall. The fish in the lakes are abundant yet, 
as are also the trout in the streams, so that a good angler 
can get a nice catch of them, J. S, I. 
Politics and Game Protection. 
Wilkes-Barre, Pa.— Ruffed grouse are very scarce 
here tiiis fall. T am very much afraid that the birds will 
be entirely exterminated within thfl next few years if 
something is not done to stop market shooting. We have 
succeeded in getting a bill through the House and Senate, 
but the Governor vetoed it. I have made the suggestion 
to the gun club here, and they are going to act upon it, 
that we organize the sportsmen of this State politically. 
There are from 75,000 to 100,000 of us. We can control 
90 per cent, of the vote. We purpose to organize and 
show our power, and then make the next available candi- 
date for Governor sign a paper before election, pledging 
himself to sign a bill prohibiting the sale of ruffed grouse 
in market and the shipping of same out of the State. 
H. M. B. 
mid §iv^r Sifting. 
WHERE TO GO. 
Onb important, useful and considerable part of the Forkst and 
Stbeam^s service to the spoi tamen''s community is the information 
given inquirers for shooting and fishing resorts. We make It our 
business to know where to send the sportsman for large or small 
game, or in quest of his favorite fish, and this knowledge is freely im- 
parted on request;. 
On the other hand, we are constantly seeking information of tbta 
character for the benefit of our patrons, and we Invite sportsmen, 
hotel proprietors and other^ to communicate to us whatever may be 
of advantage to the sportsman tourist. 
MEN I HAVE FISHED WITH. 
XXIV.-Willlam Warren. 
It is a blessed privilege to be past the meridian of life 
to-day. What a store we white-headed fellows have of 
things which a younger generation of men can never 
attain I In the charmed recesses of remembrance lie the 
vast flocks of wild pigeons and of game to be had in an 
hour's walk where now there is naught of life save the 
abominable imported sparrow. And then there was the 
grand and glorious Civil War, but I must not write of that 
further than to say to the young men who were born too 
late to take part in it that I am sorry for them. Still 
they have the compensations of youth, and if fortunate 
enough to live where there is still some game left, or have 
the means to travel to the far-off places, will, after they 
get past the noon of life, have the same feeling of com- 
miseration for the boys who are forty years in the rear of 
them which I have expressed. 
There are two reasons for writing the above paragraph; 
one was because I accompanied Warren on my first and 
only buffalo hunt, and the other was because while tak- 
ing "a cold bottle and a hot bird" with my old army com- 
panion, Baron Berthold Fernow, once of Poland, but later 
Major of U. S. Volunteers and of the Topographical Corps 
of Sherman's army, last week, the Major, in response to a 
question if he was still living in Albany, said: "No, I am 
now living at 151 West Sixty-first street, in this city, a 
place where I used to shoot rabbits when I first came to 
America, and where I once got lost in the underbrush and 
strayed away off to the ' northeast, where the Astoria 
ferry now is," Think of iti The street is near the lower 
end of Central Park and right in the middle of the city. 
The late ex-President Chester A, Arthur told me that he 
had shot woodcock where the Fifth Avenue Hotel now 
stands, and that is only at Twenty-third street. All this 
lias nothing whatever to do with my fishing with William 
Warren further than to show what changes take place in 
our rapidly growing country. As a historian, in a feeble 
way 1 record it. As an American and a naturalist, 
I regret it. Emigration has been encouraged to build 
great cities where the buffalo should still range over ter- 
ritories which ought to have been left for Americans who 
will be born a century hence. These sentiments prove to 
you that 1 am an "old fogy," but one who believes that 
we should not give away our great farm when we have 
children growing; but that is "politics," and so we will 
go on to tell about this man with whom I fished in Kan- 
sas in the year 1857. 
I was boarding with a man named Serrine, on the 
Cottonwood, while looking up a suitable place to claim a, 
quarter section, and Warren came there often. He was 
Irom Chicago, and had a claim over on the Neosho. He 
was a big, strong fellow, about twenty-five years old, 
with a dark, pleasant face and a habit of clipping his 
words. A favorite way to begin a sentence was with the 
word "Betcher," which stood in his vocabulary for 
"I'll bet you." So one day in the spring he said to me: 
"Betcher da'sent take a day off o' land-lookin' an' go' 
shootin' buffler fish, they're just comin' up on the riffles 
now and a-wallerin'. They're thicker 'n hair on a 
dog; 'f you never shot 'em you'll like it. What yer say?" 
My rifle had been packed in a chest and sent by freight 
from Potosi, Wis., and the chest had been stolen some- 
where on the rivers or at St. Louis, and I had only a 
Colt's Ndvy revolver to shoot with. From what 1 had 
seen oi these big, unwieldly buffalo fish on the riffles it 
was certain that the revolver was good enough for such 
work. The hah were very plenty, and were mating and 
spawning on every riffle, but at the least alarm would 
dodge down into the pjols below. The Cottonwood was 
a series of deep pools and gravelly riffles, over which the 
water flowed swiftly, and sometimes these were so shal- 
low as to leave the hump-backed buffalo partly out of 
water. The river may have averaged 60ft. across, and it 
cat through a deep alluvial soil, forming high banks in 
most places, except at the inside of curves, where the 
current had made a gentle slope to the water. The riffles 
were at these points, and we could get near them by ap- 
proaching the dsh from the low side. It was not a par- 
ticle of sport, but Warren thought it fun, and wanted to 
no on killing after we had more than we could carry, 
but I said no, and we strung our fish and went home. 
"Batcher I c'ld kill a thousand buffler in half a day an' 
not go over two mile on the river. What's the reason 
you wouldn't kill any more? Don't yer like the fun?" 
' -No, there's no fun in killing things that you don't 
want to use, unless they're rats or other vermin which 
annoy you. My idea of sport is to hunt something which 
is hard to find, and is some use after you have found it. 
Shooting these fish is good enough when you want a 
change of diet from ham and salt pork, but they're too 
