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FOREST AND STREAM. 
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We annex hereto a Btatement of receipts and expenditures of the 
eommtttea. Respectfully submitted. 
OLnrEB, E. CROMWEIil/, 
Oliairman, 
D. LkRot Dbesseh, 
Walter C. Kebr, 
Charles A. Sherman, 
Secretary, 
Charles W. Wetmobk, J 
Race Committee 
Seawanliaka Cor. Y. C. 
The Iiake Associations. 
A.S previously announced, the annual meeting of the Council of 
the Yacht Bacin^ Union of the Great Lakes, with the special meetins 
of the Lake Y. B.A. and the Council meetine of the latter Dody, were 
held on Jan. 16, at the TifEt House, Buffalo, N. Y. A number of 
yachtsmen from the different Lake porta arrived in Buffalo on the 
previous evenine and were entertained at dinner at the Hotel Iri^quois 
by the Buffalo Y. C., Com. Hower presiding at the table. 
The meeting of the Y. R. U. Council was called to order at 10:30 A. 
M. on Saturday, witli Mr. Jarvis as temporary chairman. Those 
present were: S. H Jones, of Toledo; E W. Bidder, Cleveland; E. H. 
Ambrose, Hamilton; Com. Howei% Buffalo; iBmilius Jarvis, Toronto, 
and E. A. Burrougbs. Rochester. The first business after the reading 
of the minutes was the election of permment officers, Mr. Jarvis 
being nominated and unanimously elected chairman. Mr, Badder 
was nominated for secretary, but refused to acGeptthe office, nomi- 
nating Mr. Fry, of Toledo, who was fleally elected. Applications for 
membership from the Interlake Y. R. A., of Lake Erie, and Lake Y. 
R. A., of Lake Ontario, were considered and accepted. 
The following amendments were then taken up in order; 
AMENDMENTS NOTICE OF WHICJa HAS BEEN GIVEN BY THE INTERLAKE 
YACHTING ASSOCIATION. 
1. That the following be added to Rule XIV. as Section 4 thereof: 
"In yachts of the first and 59ft. classes one guest or owner may be 
carried; he shall not, however, assist in working the boat; also a cook 
and waiter if regularly emploved during the season." 
2. That Rules IV., VI. and VII. and Definition II. be amended by 
adding the words, "or brought to the Lakes after that date," after 
'•1896," in each of these rules. 
3. That the >vord "immersed" be inserted before the word "mid- 
ship" and before the word "vertical" in Rule IV. 
4. That the following be added to Rule XIV., Section 3: "but no 
yacht under and including the 42ft. class shall carry more than two 
professionals," 
5. That Rule III. be amended by striking out the second paragraph 
of Section 2 and substituting therefor, "All yachts shall be measured 
for load waterh'ne length with the same number of persons on board 
as constitute her crew, or in the absence of any person a dead weight 
of loOlbs. to be used." 
The first and second were passed as printed; the third was then 
taken up. Mr. Jarvis proposed a different wording of the clause 
relating to the coefficient of the midship section, as follows: "The 
largest transverse section shall be taken as the midship section, and 
the parallelogram shall be taken to the lowest part of the vessel at 
this point, or forward of it. Of any greater depth which may be 
foimd aft of this point, one third shall be added to the depth of the 
circumscribinff pai'allelogram." He also introduced a new provision, 
that the Council may require that any yacht built orior to Nov. 6, 
1896, ami which shall fall below the limit of midship section called 
for in her class, shall give extra time in proportion to the formula 
established for the special 84£t. class of the Larch oiont Y. C. In the 
case of Canada, with a coefficient of ',^8 per cent., the proposed stand- 
ard being 35 per cent., the measurement would be increased 7 per 
cent., making s.n extra allowance to Zelma, wi'h a 85 per cent, sec- 
tion, of 'ij^m. in 30 miles. This was carried, after a discussion, by a 
vote of 4 to 6, Messrs. Andrews and Burroughs, both under instruc- 
tions from their clubs, voting against it. 
The consideration of the fourth amendment was postponed until 
after theL. Y. R. A. meeting, and the filth was taken up, in connec- 
tion with the proposal of the Royal Hamilton Y. C. to hmit the aver- 
age weight of crew to lasibs. Mr. W. P. Stephens was present, and 
on motion he was requested to give his views on the question of 
measurement with or without crew. After a great deal of debate the 
meeting ad .iourned at 12:50, to meet again in the evening after the 
meeting of the L. Y. R. A. 
Immediately following a meeting of the Council of the L. Y. R. A. 
was held, most of the yachtsmen, not being engaged in this meeting, 
taking the opportunity for luncheon in the hotel. 
The special meeting of the L. Y. R A, was called to order at 2:30 
by President Ambrose, there being present delegates fj'om the Roch- 
es er, Os*ego, Victoria, Royal Canadian, Royal Hamilton, Buffalo, 
Queen City and Kingston clubs. The Buffalo and Kingston club4 have 
just jomed the Association, and as it was known that they would vote 
with the Royal Canadian Y. C, an objection was made to their recog- 
nition on the groimd that they had been elected after and not prior 
to the annual meeting; but it was not sustained. The amendments to 
he consiae'red were as follows: 
AMENDMENTS NOTICE OP WHICH HAS BEEN GIVEN BY THE LAKE YACHT 
RACING ASSOCIATION. 
1. That Section S of Rule I. be struck out. 
2. That the second paragraph of Section 2 of Rule HI. be amended 
by substituting "16" for "L^jO" and adding the following to such 
paragraph : "But any yacht built prior to Nov. 7, 18 0, which by rea- 
son of being required to measure with crew on board tshall exceed the 
upper hmit of cue class in which she has previously sailed shall be 
Eermitted to continue to sail in such class provided her measure jient 
as not been increased since that date, but shall give time allowance 
fi'om her actual r. 1., notwithstanaiDg any provision to the contrarv 
m Rule VII." 
8, Tnat Section 3 of Rule III. be amended by striking out the words 
"fore side of the mast" in the second paragraph of measurement "J" 
under head sails, and substituting therefor "heel of the spinnaker 
boom when shipped in its place " 
4. That Rule IV. be amended by inserting after the word "yacht" 
in the second line "over 7ft. r. 1.," and by striking out the words 
"extreme draft wherever found" and substituting therefor "draft at 
such section." 
5. That the following be added to Rule V., Section 2, "except as pro- 
vided in Rule III , paragraph 2." 
6. That the following be inserted in Rule Vfl. after the word 
"other" In tne fifth line: "except as required in Rule III., para- 
graph 2." 
7. That the word "built" be substituted for the word "launched" in 
Rules rV., VI. and VIL, and in Definition I[. 
8. That the following be added to Rule IX., Section 2: "A yacht 
chartered for the season shall be considered the property of the per- 
son or persons chartering it." 
9. That the following be added to Rule XI., Section 3: "The regatta 
committee may in thetr discretion suspend this rule in the case of 
special races." 
10. That Section 3 of Rule XIV. he amended by inserting after the 
word "yacht" in the first line "of S.'fc. r.l. or undar," and striking 
out "and must be manned by Corinthians, except that any yacht may 
carry and use her regular professional crew." 
11. That Rule XXX. be struck out. 
12. That the following be inserted as Rule V and the present Rule 
V. be numbered as Rule VI., etc.: "The frame, timbers, keels and 
planking in all wooden yachts built after Nov. 7, 1 ■(98, or Drought to 
the Lakes after that date, shall be restricted to the minimuLn sizes 
flx-d in the table below;" and that the Council be reoommeoded to 
employ an expert to advise on said table, and that the table, when 
prepared in this manner and notification of its approval given to the 
secretary by two-thirds of the members of the Council, be inserted in 
the said rule and become part thereof. 
13. That Definition II. be amended by inserting after the word 
"section" in the last line "and size of umbers, keels and planking." 
The situation when the meeting was called to order wis no less 
complicated, and the various parties no less hostile than at the an- 
nual meeting at Rochester last mouth. The Royal Canadian Y. C. 
supported several propositions that the area of the midship section 
of yachts in the 32ft. and larger classes should not be less than 33 per 
cent, of the coefficient, as determined by the formula devt^ed for the 
Larchmont special 34fc. class, at the same time agreeing that no 
limit should be placed upon the two smallest classes, 27 and 2.^ft.; 
that existing yachts of the 3ift. and larger classes whose sections fell 
below the limit should give extra time according to the Larchmont 
formula or some other: that all yachts should be measured with 
crews on boai'd, the average weight of crew being 1501 bs., existing 
yachts being retained in their present classes. Incidentally, the R. 
C. Y. C. represent-aiive carried a deed of trust under which tne owners 
of Canada proposed to estabhsh the cup won by her from Vencedor 
as a permanent challenge cup for international competition. With 
the R. O. T. G. were the Queen City, Rochester, Buffalo and Kuigston 
clubs. 
The Hamilton men, representing the Royal Hamilton and the Vic- 
toria Y. C, were, from tneir statements, iu a very different position 
from that which it was supposed chat they occupied at llie Rochester 
meeting. It would appear that they are very strongly in favor of the 
restriction of the midship section according to the method propo-^ied 
by Mr, Jarvis, and that they are in every way in favor of discourag- 
ing extreme types and encouraging a wholesome yacht. In evidence 
of this they went even further than the other party in proposing to 
restrict the coefficient of section in the 37 and aSft. classes, naming a 
limit of 19 per cent, in the former and 15 percent, in the latter. These 
flexures were based on the two Hamilton boats, Hiawatha and Caruli, 
both fin-keels, and the latter a Dyer boat of the extreme fin type, 
practically tbe same as Koko, whose lines have appeared iu the 
JToREST AND STREAM. lu addition to this, ihey proposed a minimum 
of 33)^ per cent, for the larger clas.-?es and 30 per cent, for the 32fc, 
class" The amendment carried at Rochester by the Hamilton and 
Oswego delegatesprovided for a zigzag series pf standard sections 
for each class, these standards being taken fi-bm existing boats of 
various types and ages in the Royal Hamilton or Royal Canadian 
yacht clubs. As it was practically necessary that the standards 
adopted by the L. Y. R. A. should also be adopted by the associations 
of the other lakes, the utter absurdity of the original amendment is 
plain on its face. The new proposal was more reasonable, with limits 
of 331^ per cent, and 80 per cent., but at the same time was inferior 
to the original proposition of 35 per cent, in the 3Jft., 37fc., 42ft. and 
first classes. 
In the matter of measurement of waterline, the Hamilton delegates 
opposed strenuously the proposal to measure with crew 00 board, 
and in the event of its passage were prepared to fight for a reduction 
of the hmit to I251bs. per man, instead of 150. These matters had al- 
ready been the subject of dispute in the two clubs, the Royal Ham- 
ilton and the Victoria, the majority favoring them and binding the 
delegates rigidly to support ttiem: the discussion in one club reached 
a point where it threatened to disruptit, and one club had resolved to 
leave the Association in case its amendments were defeated. The 
position of the united delegates was that they would go no further 
under any circumstances than what they considered the compromise , 
amendments offered by them. 
The Oswego Y. 0. had also held a meeting and instructed its dele- 
gate on two points: one being to introduce and support to the last a 
resolution that in future international races there should be no re- 
striction whatever to the midship section except by mutual agree- 
ment; the other being I he amendment to Section 10, by which pro- 
fessionals are freely allowed in all classes, except at the stick in the 
32f C, ZJlt. and a2ft,' classes. So far as the limitation of section in all 
classes is concerned, the sentiment of the Osjvego Y. C. seems to be 
in favor of no restrictions whatever on these points, the encourage- 
ment of the extreme fin-keel machine, and the employment of pro- 
fessionals both at the stick and about the deck, the club being in ac- 
cord with Commodore Berriman, of Chicago. In order to secure the 
support of the Hamilton delegates for the resolution as to the unre- 
stricted midship section in international races, the Oswego delegate 
pledged himself to vote for all of the proposals of tne Hamilton 
club. 
It is simply impossible to give even an outline of the discussion 
and action through the four hours' session of the Association; pro- 
posals of all kinds were brought forward, amended two or three 
times, and then voted down. The only motion which was carried 
unanimously was that of Sec. 1^, calling for the establishment of a 
scheme of minimum scantling. The proposal to measure with crews 
aboard was voted down by the Hamilton and Oswego delegates, fail- 
ing to obtain tbe nece.ssary two-thirds vote, and the Oswego proposi- 
tion as to international races came to an early end in the same way. 
Com. OwalD Martin, Queen City Y. C!., offered several amendments 
in favor of limitations of scantling and the requirement of certain 
minimum weights of ballast in tbe smaller classes. Com. Martin 
stated in his remarks that the proxies given by the Queen City Y. C. 
delegates to the Rochester meeting only empowered the holder to 
oppose the restriction of section in the •-J7ft. class, and that the holder 
had exceeded his powers in voting on them against the restriction in 
the larger classes. 
Tbe situation soon resolved itself into a deadlock, the key being the 
Oswego delegate. He had fired his gun. the amendment calling for 
an unrestricted midship section in international races, with the aid of 
the Hamilton men; bat it had missed fire, being voted down by a 
considerable majority. In return ne was pledged to all of the points 
of his colleagues, and they held him to his pledge, thus preventing 
the other side from obtaining the two thirds vote. A recess was 
taken for general lobbying, but apparently to no purpose, and it 
looked as trough the meeting would adjourn with matters in such a 
state as would seriously impede the success of the general union on 
the Lakes. At about 6 o'clock aa agreement was fioally reached, that 
the coefficient should be 3i}4 psr cent, in the 32tt. and Uigher classes, 
19 per cent, in the 5i7ft., ana i2 per cent, in the 2af c. The meeting then 
adjourned. 
At 7:30 the Council of the Y. R. U. reconvened to complete its work 
by acting on the pastponed amendments. It was resolved chat Mr. 
W. P Stephens be employed to draw up a scheme of scantling for all 
classes. Tne cup won by Canada was presented to the Union under 
conditions which we wUl give next week. 
^..ftanoes for the Paddling Trophy. 
Kingston, Ont., January. — Editor Forest and Stream: I 
am glad to see that Mr. Scolt is not content to leave his 
motion regarding the dimensions of a paddling canoe to the 
tender mercies of the regatta committee, but has appealed to 
canoe men generally through your columns. 
The object of the A. 0, A. is to encourage the canoeist to 
learn all there is to know about canoting, and if this object 
is to be altaiaed his admission to the races at the meet must 
be made as easy as pobsiole. Under present conditions 
those of us who do not possess a lacing canoe, by which 1 
mean a boat that is of no earthly use outside of a race, will 
hardly find it worth while to go into training if winning 
races "is our aim. On one point, nowever, 1 do not entirely 
agree with Mr Scott. Where the canoes used are serviceable 
boats it may be very interesting to paddlers to see which 
one will develop most speed under the same conditions. 
Builders have, under the existing rules, constructed their 
boats either for speed or safely, but in not more than two 
or three models have the two qualities been combined, 
although nothing more desirable can be imagined on a cruise 
than a canoe which will carry two men and a light outfit 
and still be propelled with a minimum of exertion. The 
genera] idea of a cruising canoe is that of a decked boat 
too slow to sail races in ; but, in Canadian waters at least, 
most of the cruising is done in open canoes, so that a fast 
boat of large carrying capacity is what is most needed. 
Such a craft can be built at a cost well within the means of 
every canoeist. 
I think an exception should be made in the case of the 
"club fouis paddling" event, because a 16ft. canoe, even 
with a depth of l4in , is hardly suitable for four men to pad- 
dle in, and the same objections do not apply to this as to the 
other races. It is not necessary that the canoe for this event 
should be owned by an individual, while it is desirable that 
a club should possess a boat capable of standing a good sea 
when manned by more than two men. 
It must be evident to everyone who has attended the meets 
that the number of entries tor the paddling races is ridicu- 
lously small when compared with the number of men in 
camp who can paddle, and it can do no harm to try the ex- 
periment for two or three years of restricting the races to 
safe, serviceable canoes. It is the opinion of all the racing 
men and practical canoeists with whom I have spoken that 
this class of canoe cannot be built of less dimensions or 
weight than those proposed by Mr. Scott. 
R. Easton BuRsis. 
A> C. A. Membership. 
Applications for membership may be made to the purser of the 
division in wnich the applicant resides on blanks furnished by purser, 
the applicant becoming a member provided no objection be made 
within fourteen days after his name has been officially published in 
the Forest ANXJ Stbeam, 
EAST BEN DrVlSION. 
Name. Residence. Club. 
Arthur T. S, Clay Boston 
Police Revolver Shooting Notes. 
On Jan. 12 and IH the picked men from the first and second pla- 
toons of the New York police force met at the school for revolver 
practice in the Eighth Regiment Armory in competition to decide the 
captaincies and a composition of the two teams for the first six 
months of 1897. Three strings of five shots each were fired, and in 
each platoon the man makiuE the highest score was appointed team 
captain. Following are the scores: 
FIRST TEAM- FIRST PLATOON. 
Jan. 13. Rank. Precinct. Total. 
Ptl 
11 
214 
Ptl 
84 
SOU 
Rds 
4 
199' 
Ptl 
29 
198 
Ptl 
12 
197-1,010 
Precinct. Total. 
35 
C O 
24 
27 
10 
216 
203 
197 
196 
182 -99 i 
Henry J Stennea... 4. if. 
FIRST TEAK— SECOND PLATOON 
Jan. 13. Rank. 
Milton Woodbridge Rds 
George Brown. Act Rds 
John Townsend Sergt 
JJMcNallv ........ Sergt 
George H Eckhoff. , . ... Ptl 
As a result of the competition, Patrolman Henry J. Ebermann was 
appointed Captain of the First Platoon team, and Roundsman Milton 
Woodbridge Captain of the Second Platoon team. 
In view of the fact that Capt. Petty and his assistants are barred 
out, Rotmdsman Woodbridge, with the highest score of the competi- 
tion, 218 out of a possible 3i5, is virtually champion of the depart- 
ment. 
Patrolman Ebermann has chaUenged him to shoot for the champion' 
ship, and the match will probably take place at the time of the 
Sportsmen's Exposition. Sergt, Townsend is also a crack shot, but 
has not recently been shooting up to his usual form. 
It has been decided to give medals to all members of the police 
force who qualify as marksmen or sharpshooters. The marksman's 
medal will be given to those who qualify by scoring 65 out of a possi- 
ble 75 at 1.5yds. (Creedmoor target, <iin. bull), and the sharpshooter's 
emblem to those making 70 out of a possible 75 at 20yds. 
Hereafter all teams representing the department will be chosen 
from the lists of those qualifying as sharpshooters. All matches will 
be at the 80yds. range, 4in. Creedmoor target, and four consecutive 
strings of 5 shots each will be fired by eacli man making a score of 
100, the individual highest possible. Only the regulation police re- 
volver with a length of barrel not exceeding 4in. exclusive of cylinder 
and plain open sights will be permitted. The regulations also caU 
for plain open sights and a trigger pull not less than 31bs, The regu- 
lation cartridge wiU be used. 
Accidental shots count in the score, and no excuses are accepted 
except in case of misfires. Shots touching lines count for highest 
value in scoring. 
On Monday, Jan. 18, teams from the Thirty-fourth and Thirty- 
eighth precincts shot a friendly match at the Armory. 
Pocket Revolver Scores. 
Last week mention was made of some extremely good scores 
made by Capt. Petty at lOyds. with the ne«r ..33cal, police Colt, Hl. 
barrel and plain open sights. Through an oversight the targets 
which shoula have accompanied the note were omitted. We print 
them herewith without additional comment: 
Cincinnati Rifle ' Association. 
Cincinnati, 0 , Jan. 10,— The following scores were made by mein- 
hers of the Cincinnati Rifle Association to-day. Conditions: iOOyds., 
off-band, at the standard target, 7-ring black. The day was a 
perfect one for good scores, and as a result some top scores were 
made. Capt. Gindeie made two more 90s, and Welllnger made a 
clean score of 8i and also a 91 to his credit. Strickmeier is coming 
to the front, and bids fair to be one of the cracks. Roberts has three 
scores for the gold medal to day. Payne wins the gold badge. 
Gindeie. 
9 9 8 9 7 9 10 10 10 10-91 10 9 10 6 10 9 9 8 10 9-90 
10 8 8 10 6 8 8 10 9 10-87 10 7 7 10 7 10 10 10 9 1—87 
Payne. 
89 10 998778 8-83 10 97997699 8-83 
6 7 6 8 10 10 10 8 8 8—81 99 10 10 78789 4-8t 
Welllnger. 
8 8 9 9 9 9 8 9 9 10 -88 10 10 9 10 9 10 9 0 9 6-91 
10 8 r 10 9 10 10 9 6 9 - 88 10 9 9 9 7 7 8 9 8 7-fc.S 
Heidkamp. 
8 8 7 6 6 10 10 6 6 8 -75 9 9 7 6 7 8 7 8 6 7—74 
588678 10 89 7—77 10 6 4 6 , 8 10 5 8 0 7-69 
Roberts, 
8 10 8 7 8 10 9 8 6 10—84 7 10 7 8 9 10 9 6 9 10 - 84 
599897798 10-81 7759 10 87 10 7 9—79 
Topf, 
78758 10 446 8-67 763989683 7— 6fl 
975977558 5-66 847878394 5-t3 
Drube. 
10 10 8 6 5 8 8 8 8 7—78 9 7 9 6 8 9 9 8 9 9—i3 
78959766 10 10—77 e6a8887b6 9— T3 
Lux, 
75867 10 696 6—70 10 5689S638 9—69 
666 10 6575 10 7-6S 5669 3 «5 10 5 6-63 
Strickmeier. 
10 9898866 10 9-t3 988799897 7—81 
8 10 9986694 10—79 10 10 7 8 5 5 5 10 8 7—75 
Columbia Rifle Club. 
77ie Forest and Streak is put to press each week on Tueadav 
orreepondence intended for pitblication should reach vs at th* 
■ ateat by Monday, and as much earlier as practicable. 
San Francisco, Cal., Jan. 12.— The opening shoot of the Columbia 
Club was held yesterday at Shell Moxmd, and much enthusiasm ex- 
isted. The annual meeting for election of officers, adoption of pro- 
gramme, etc., was held on the 8th inst. IDr. L O. Rodgers was re- 
elected President; M, J. White, Vice-President; F. O. Young, Secre- 
tary (reelected) ; E. Hovey, Assistant Secretary; A. B. Dorrell, First 
Shooting Master, and J. E. Gorman, Second Shooting Master. The 
programme is a long and varied one. Medals are offered for target 
rifle, miUtary rifle, .aScal. rifle, pistol and revolver. The medals are 
aU made of gold and vary in value from $15 to $100. In addition, 
cash premiums from go to $i5 are given on all targets to second, third 
and fourth men at the end of the year. Ladies are bereafter to be 
admitted to full membership. The club is developing some fine shots, 
and at aU-round shooting would like to shoot any club in the United 
Slates. A resolution was adopted at the annual meeting extending 
the thanks of the club to the Forest and Stream for publishing our 
scores. Scores of to-day's shoot: 
Rifie. SOOyds , class medals, for members only, 10 shots: Champion 
class— P. O. Young 64, D. W. McLaughUn 59, P. E. Mason 80, A. H. 
Pape 86, 8. IngaUs 161. 
First class— Jacobson 62, O. Bremer 74, H. Hellherg 99, A. Qehret 
109, J. E. Klein la7, A. B. Doi^rell 159. 
Second class— J. E. German 66, F. H. Bushnell 77, M. J. White 100, 
a. M. Barley 114. 
