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FOREST AND STREAM. 
[Feb. 6, 1897. 
Tippoo ASD ELGra's Dash were cast ofE at 8 :88. Tippoo 
took a Jong cast to the right and pointed a bevy nicely. 
Dash loaded into a hevy and flushed it— a careless piece of 
work. On scattered birds in wooda some very rapid and 
erood work was done. Tippoo made eight points on singles 
and one flush, while Dash made two points on a divided 
bevy, one point on another bevy and ten points on singles. 
This big score of points does not necpssarily denote a superi- 
ority accordingly. No other brace had such an opportunity 
to make such a number of points. The birds were scattered 
about in a timber island, and while the dogs took advantage 
of the op'iortunities, the latter were exceptionally favorable 
in every respect. Most of the work of the afternoon was on 
ground secured in the morning and which had not been run 
on before this week, Tippoo had the wider range, and had 
a trifle the better speed, but on birds and the manner of 
handhng them he was outworked by his competitor. Many 
of Tippoo's points were secured when the dogs were sepa- 
rated. When they were together, Dash proved himself the 
better. Up at 4;30. 
Nabob and Eipsaw were retained in the competition to 
decide the cup Soon after beinff cast off, Nabob made game 
close in to a bevy and flushed a bird. He nosed about when 
he should have pointed. Ripsaw coming up soon afterward 
pointed at the same place. Nabob backed, brofee back and 
both dogs moved on and the birds flushed. Sent on, Rip- 
saw pointed a bevy, drew on by it, Nabob drawing ahead 
on back at the same time: the latter caught scent, pointed 
the bevy stanchly while Ripsaw continued roading. Sent 
on, both made game near the edge of woods in an open 
field and failed to locate the bevy. It was flushed by horse- 
men a short distance away. The birds were marked down 
in a cornfield. Each dog secured a point on singles; then 
both drew together to a point on scattered birds. In woods 
Nabob made three clean and sharp points on singles, Ripsaw 
one point. Then on the last bird Ripsaw pointed; Nabob 
made a crawling back, following up Ripsaw's handler as he 
went in to flush. Ripsaw jumped in on what seemed to be 
a wounded bird. This demoralized both dogs. They nosed 
eagerly for the bird; Nabob scented it, jumped to capture 
and the bird unharmed flushed and flew away. The heat 
abounded with errors. Both dogs seemed to be strange to 
their handlers, and Nabob was certainly so, as he hardly 
knew his handler when the heat began. Up at 5 :18. The 
judges decided that Ripsaw won. • 
Friday. 
The weather was delightfully clear and pleasant. Birds 
were found in abundance at times; at other limes there was 
a dearth. Wire fences seriously interfered with the running 
and the heats were disarranged a great deal by them. There 
was a good deal of hard riding at times, too hard to be any 
part of sport with pointers and setters. 
Miial. 
Trppoo AND ToTTNG Rip Raf started at 8:49. Rip soon 
made a point on a single bird. Tippoo took a long cast and 
pointed two straggling birds of a bevy. Sent on, he pointed 
more straggling birds of the bevy, which apparently was 
running. Rip took up the trail and roaded to a point on the 
rear of the bevy. The dogs were ordered out of the woods. 
By sheer disobedience Tippoo went back, while Rip went on 
properly to order. Tippoo got a point on a single in the 
meantime. Sent on, Rip pointed birds in the open; Tippoo 
came in ahead and pointed the same birds. Tippoo next 
.pointed a single, and Rip made a point ; nothing found to it. 
Tippoo flushed part of a bevy, then pointed the rest. Sent 
on, Rip pointed a bevy m open sedge; Gray sent him on to 
locate better; he lost scent, and Tippoo coming in pointed 
the bevy. Tippoo had the wind ; Rip did not. The find 
was Rip's, and Tippoo had no right to interfere while Rip 
was locating his birds, but this rule was repeatedly violated 
at all stages of the trials. Sent on, Tippoo pointed a bevy 
in the open. The birds were followed. Rip made two 
points on'singles, and Tippoo was unsteady to wing. Up 
at 9:53. Rip, though ranging well, was goin§ a bit ginger- 
ly. He showed the better class of work on birds. Tippoo 
ranged fairly well, but was lacking in judgment in beating 
out his ground, and was handled with difficulty. 
Mr. Buckle marred a long and courteous career as a 
handler by loudly proclaiming to the judges, when Tippoo 
pointed a certain bevy, that Rip Rap had worked over the 
same ground. It is far frooi nice in any handler to announce 
what he deems to be defects in his competitor, besides there- 
from the implied inability of the judges to understand mat- 
ters unless, they have them explained to them. A handler 
never seems more at his best than when minding hia own 
affairs. 
This concluded the running of the All-Age Pointer Stake. 
The Setter AIl-Asre Stake. 
There were sixteen starters, and of these several were en- 
tered more particularly for the Harris cup, the competitors 
being limited to club members who were amateurs. The 
competition for the Dtrxter and Harris cups was decided in 
the regular competition in the stakes. The dogs were drawn 
to run as follows : 
N. T. Harris's b., w. and t. dog Tony Boy (Antonio — 
Laundress), D. E. Rose, handler, with Fox & Blyihe's b„ 
w. and t. dog Tony Gale (Antonio — Nellie G.), J. H. John- 
son, handler. 
H. B. Ledbetter's b , w. and t. dog Marie's Sport (Gleam's 
Sport — ^Marie Avent), George B. Gray, handler, with E. A. 
Burdette's h., w. and t. dog Cincinnatus Pride (Cincinnatus — 
Albert's Nellie), Frank Richards, handler. 
P. M. E^sig's b., w, and t. bitch Saragossa Belle (Gleam's 
Pink— Maud E.), owner, handler, with Tabasco Kennels' 
b., w, and t. dog Tabasco Boy (Medoc — Fay), owner, 
handler. 
I. Hoagland's b., w. and t. bitch Ranee H. (Gladstone's 
Boy— Buena Vista), D. E. Rose, handler, with Del Monte 
Kennels' b., w. and|t. dog Rod's Chaff (Rodeiigo— Gladstone's 
Girl), A. C. Waddell, handler. 
EL. R. Edwards's b., w. and t. dog Harwick (Topay's Rod 
— Opal), George E. Gray, handler, with Jackson & Denmark 
Kennels' b., w. and t. bitch LMliau Russell (Pnilip Glad- 
stone — ^Lou K.), J. N. Scale, handler. 
P. M. Eisig's b., w. and t dog Rod's Top (Roderigo— 
Topsy Avent), owner, handler, with L. S. Thompaon's b., 
w. and t. bitcn Novelist (Woodhill Bruce— Novelty), W. F. 
McCarley, handler, 
P. R. Hitchcock's h., w. and t. bitch Tory Luna (Roi 
d'Or— Tony Diamond), W. F. McCarley, handler, with P. 
M. Essig's b., w. and t. bitch Lillian Hall (Jean — Sister Sue), 
owner, handier. 
L. Shonfield's b., w. and t, dog Leo Noble (King Leo- 
Minnie T.), N. B. Nesbitt, handler, with W, H. Beazel's h., 
w. and t. dog Harold Skimpole (Whyte B. — Nettie Bevan), 
Geo, E. Gray, handler. 
Tony Boy won first on an excellent competition. He made 
a well sustained showing throughout. He was difficult to 
manage at times, but proved to be a good finder, and his 
point work was sharp and true. In pace and range he was 
excellmt. 
Tonv Gale, second, was a wide, fast ranger, was success- 
ful in finding and pointing, though at times he pointed old 
or false scents, or dwelt on them too long. Still the fault 
was not serious and marred his work only. He was a very 
strong second. 
Marie's Sport, third, showed excellent capabilities, but 
was running in poorer form than at any time this season. 
His bird work was lacking in its best trueness and quickness, 
and his range was not so regular nor so wide as in his best 
previous corhpetition. 
For the Harris cup, a competition for amateurs, there 
were entered Saragossa Belle, Tabasco Boy, Lillian Russell, 
Rod's Top, Novelist, Tory Luna and Lillian Hall, seven of 
the sixteen starters. Rod's Chaff was also entered for the 
cup, but was later withdrawn. Of these but three were 
retained in the second round, namely. Novelist, Lillian Rus- 
sell and Tory Luna. It was apparent in their heat that 
Novelist was beating Lillian. This would leave only Novel- 
ist and Tory Luna in the competition for the cup, and both 
these dogs were handled by Mr. W. F. McCarley, so that 
whichever of the two won Mr. McCarley was the winner of 
the cup. Luna had run excellently well, and under expert 
handling was presumably a dangerous competitor for a 
place in the money. Tory Luna is owned by Mr. F. R, 
Hitchcock, and was in charge of Mr. J. M. Avent. The 
latter asked permission to withdraw Luna from competition 
for the cup, retiring her amateur handler and permitting 
himself to handle her as a professional. Judges and club 
members were doubtful as to the correctness of such a 
change. An open field board meeting was called in the 
middle of the heat between Tony Gale and Cincinnatus 
Pride, delaying the heat for some minutes and taking 
one judge nearly a half hour from his duties. 
The board of governors decided that Luna could 
be withdrawn from the amateur cup competition, 
her amateur handler could retire, she could be 
continued on in the regular competition, and Mr. Avent 
could handle her. The judges objected to the board's 
ruling, and Mr. King declared that he would retire from the 
.judging rather than be a party to any such doings. There- 
upon another meeting of the board was called, and it was 
decided that the matter be left with the judges. The 
judges announced that the cup competition must be run to a 
finish, after which Mr. Avent could handle Luna. Mr. 
Avent strongly objected, and called the judges' attention to 
the fact that the board had passed on the question, and that 
they should go on with the running. He was informed 
that Luna must compete for the cup. He said it was a great 
injustice to his employer, Mr. Hitchcock, who had paid him 
$100 on her account, and had also paid $30 entrance money, 
if he were deprived from competing under his handling. He 
was informed that being so employed he should have han- 
dled her from the start himself, and that any hardship, if 
there were any, flowed thus from his own acts in permitting 
her to start in charge of another. He then said her amateur 
handler had returned to town to take a train. His attention 
was called to the fact that the train time was nearly three 
hours later, and that there were several on the grounds who 
intended to take the same train. He asked if he could have 
some other amateur handle her, and the judges assented. 
He then stoutly maintained that the judges m so assenting 
to a change of handlers had virtually consented to his hand- 
ling her. They demurred. He said then he would have to 
withdraw her. The judges were prepared to start the heat 
with Minnie T. as a running mate, when some dilatory tac- 
tics were used. The theory of the opposition seemed to be 
that the judges would back down at the last moment. The 
judges again prepared to start. One of the handlers impa- 
tiently asked the judges if they were ready. "Cast off your 
dogs" was the answer, and the heat began. After some min- 
utes the secretary informed the judges that Mr, Avent had 
consented to have Luna handled by an amateur. The judges 
informed him that Luna was no longer in the stake. Mr. 
Avent later lodged a protest against the action of the judges. 
As to the conditions of the amateur competition, it was to 
be a part of the regular stake, to be decided as an incident 
of the regular running. The special purpose of it was to 
swell the entries of the All-Age Stake, No extra fee was 
required above the regular one. The point raised by Mr. 
Avent was merely a bit of sharp play to try for the regular 
prizes after it was certain his friend had the amateur prize 
won to a moral certainty. Had he cared to do so, he could 
have learned all details before starting. The amateur compe- 
tition was an integral part of the regular competition, so that 
no partial withdrawal of a competitor could be made. A dog 
must needs stay in entirely or go out entirely. The judges 
decided quite correctly, and could they have heard the 
words of commendation and praise bestowed on them by a 
majority present, they could not have felt less than gratified 
in addition to the satisfaction of having had the pluck to 
maintain what was right. Most of the debate was in public, 
and some of it was not in the best of temper. 
Novelist won^he Harris cup. 
Mrst Round, 
TonyBot AND Tony Gaxe began at 9:59. Down 33 
minutes. Each soon scored a point. Tony Boy took a 
wide cast and found and pointed two bevies. Gale in the 
meantime pointed a bevy. Gale made three points on sin- 
gles. Each dog had good speed, Tony Boy the wider range. 
Majrie's Sport and Cincinnatus Pride ran 37 minutes, 
beginning at 10:37. Pride pointed a bevy and Sport joined 
in point. Sent on. Pride pointed a bevy and each made a 
point on the scattered birds. Pride, separated from his 
competitor, roaded to a point on a bevy, and next made a 
flush on a single, a point on another. Sport made two 
points on singles and one flush while working alone. Sport 
was not running in his best form. Pride ran him a very 
even heat, and in bird work had the better performance. 
Both had fairly good range and good speed. 
Ranee and Rod's Chaff were cast off at 11 :58. Down 30 
minutes. Both made game. Chaff pointed, Ranee refused 
to back. They roaded about, but failed to locate. One of 
the handlers flushed the bevy, which was not followed, 
though it went into woods close by. As the heat stood there 
was nothing definite. 
Harwick and Lillian Russell were cast off at 1 :33, 
after lunch. Harwick found and pointed two bevies, and 
made a point on a single, Lillian made two points onsingles 
and a point on a bevy. Harwick was sharper in his work 
and had some advantage in speed. Both ranged well. Up 
at 3 :07 
Rod's Top and Novelist began at 2 :10. The latter was 
the better worker in every respect. She made a good show- 
ing in finding, locating and pointing, and was exceptionally 
steady to wing. She found and pointed two bevies, and 
made a point OQ scattered birds and one flush. Up at 3:37. 
Tony Luna and LiLLtAN Hall ran 33 minutes. Luna 
found and pointed sharp and well, doing good work both on 
bevies and scattered birds Her range and speed were 
good. Lillie made a commonplace showing. 
Leo Noble and Harold Skimpole began at 3:38. Har- 
old made some pretty work on single birds, he pointing 
twice sharp and precise and flushing one Leo in the mean- 
time flushed a bevy. Sent on, each found and pointed a 
bevy. Leo flushed twice. Up at 4:10. Harold made the 
better competition in every respect. 
Second Bound. 
Marie's Spobt and Tony Boy began at 4:30. Up at 
o;18 The heat was a hard heat to follow, and was so 
broken by many turnings and twistings and obstructed by 
wire fences that it was unsatisfactory. Tony pointed a 
bevy. Sport 800 or 300yds. away pointed; nothing found, 
but it was said that a bird flushed from the po nt. Sent on, 
in about 200yds Sport dropped to a point in cornfield, and 
a few birds were flushed to it, Tony crossed in about 50yds. 
ahead and pointed a single. Sent on, Tony pointed a bevy. 
Sport was lost for a few moments and was found pointing a 
bevy, Tony went in and pointed the same bevy. Rose 
went in and flushed the bevy as if it were his dog's find and 
point, something he had no right to do, Sent on, Sport 
pointed some remaining birds of the bsvy. Sent on, the 
handlers called point in a thicket dense with switch cane 
and brush. It was said that Tony waded to a flush on a 
bevy Sport pointed; Tony backed; nothing found; foot- 
scent probably. The bevy was followed. Sport pointed in 
the open. Boy backed and held back to caution. A plover 
flushed some yards away and other than it there was nothing 
found. Boy pointed some scattered bird which when 
fiushed were again followed. Boy stopped to a flush, 
pointed and some remaining birds were flushed to his point. 
Sport roaded a single which flushed, and lit on the overhead 
limb of a tree 20ft. from the ground. Boy loaded on the 
same trail, pointed where the bird flushed; the bird flew 
from the overhead limb, and there was much wonderment 
expressed that he could point a bird so far overhead. Both 
took a cast up the bottom, The handlers called point, and 
when a judge reached the scene both dogs were pointing the 
same bevy. There was no one with the dogs and handlers 
for some time save one judge, and he reported three single 
bird points for Tony Boy and one for Sport. Up at 5:18 
Tony Boy was quicker in his work, was not given to point- 
ing on footscent and was a better ranger. 
Saturday. 
The weather was clear, cool and favorable for good work. 
Novelist and Lillian RuBSELL began at 9:00. Lillian 
flushed a bevy down wind, pointed a bevy, made five points 
on singles and two fiushes. Novelist found and pointed 
three bevies, made five points on singles, and had the better 
range and speed. Lillian made an excellent competition 
and was very skillful herself. Up at 10:00. 
Tony Gale akd Cijscinnatus Pride were started at 
10:13. Gale outclassed Pride in every particular except 
point work on birds. His range was wider; he had better 
pace and finding abilities. Gale found three bevies and 
made one point on a single. Pride made one bevy point and 
one point on singles. Up at 11:15. The board of governors 
met while the heat was being run, one dog being up, the 
other working, and there was some delay caused by the 
meeting. The matter under consideration was the question 
raised by Mr. Avent in respect to Tory Luna 
Another meeting was held after the heat ended, the par- 
ticulars of which are given in the introductory. 
Harold Skbmpole and Tory Luna were the next brace, 
but the latter was withdrawn and Minnie T. was brought in 
as a running mate Harold pointed two bevies well He 
next pointed; nothing found. He next fiushed some birds 
of a bevy, then stopped to a point on the remainder. On 
singles he made a point and a flush. He next flushed an out- 
lying single, then pointed the bevy. His range was but 
fairly good. 
Winal, I 
Tony Boy and Tony Gale began at 1:41. Each made 
game and pointed; nothing found. Each found and pointed 
two bevies Gale pointed a single in plum thicket. Boy at 
the same time pointed near same place. Sent on, a bevy 
flushed suspiciously near Boy in the open. Up at 2:33. Boy- 
had a slight advantage in the heat. There was too much 
hurry and hustle and fast riding for good work or proper 
method. 
This ended the stake. 
Absolute of Derby. 
TouNG Rip Rap and Pin Money, Derby winners, were 
started at 2 ;43. It was an excellent heat in every particular, 
both dogs doing admirable work. They ranged wide and 
fast, found well, and their point work was clean and accu- 
rate. Pin Money found four bevies and made five points on 
singles. Rip pointed three bevies and made three points on 
singles. Pin's work on birds was sharper than Rip's. It 
was a very excellent competition. 
Challenge Class Prizes. 
New York, — Editor Forest and Stream: Referring to 
"Setter's" article of last week on "Challenge Prizes" in dog 
shows, I have received the inclosed reply from Mr. Morti- 
mer, superintendent of the coming New York show, to a 
letter from me asking that three prizes be offered there in 
challenge setter classes. 1 therein showed Mr. Mortimer by 
his catalogues of 1893, '94, '95 and '96 that the average en- 
tries of the first three years were: Of Irish setters, 11 chal- 
lenge, 37 open, 13 pups, 17 novice; and of Gordon setters, 
11 challenge, 18 open, 10 pups, 7 novice; but that in 1896 
the puppy entries fell off to four of each breed, while those 
of English setter pupa fell off from seventeen to five; thus 
indicating that owners had tired of sending their little fel- 
lows to almost certain death from distemper contracted at 
the shows. The other classes in 1896 held up to their aver- 
age pretty well. 
I hope that no motion will prevail to amend our A, K. C. 
rules as to challenge classes so as to imitate English customs. 
All our present regulations need is to make challenge wins 
attainable only upon competition (i. e., at leiasi two in a 
class) — three wins with such competition to make a cham- 
pionship. This will prevent a "walkover." 
